Comments on: Voilà! http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/09/voila/ a radical newsletter in the struggle for peace and social justice Thu, 08 Dec 2011 15:07:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Richard Oxman http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/09/voila/#comment-55211 Richard Oxman Mon, 21 Sep 2009 22:27:05 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=10591#comment-55211 Thanks for all, Rosemarie. Sometimes having money is the worst... for getting better. That opens the door for experimentation. That opens the door for more and more incompetent care (as things stand). That said, I understand -- certainly -- the thrust of your comment. AND... I am -- TOSCA http://oxtogrind.org/archive/364 -- is all for everyone having a fair shake (and a better deal than people have right now 'cross the board in terms of quality care) for EVERYONE here and abroad. And on that note, please note... one of the first things TOSCA would do in California is to invite doctors from little known places abroad (Cuba, if legally possible; it not possible legally...we'll make a BIG PUBLIC FUSS to help one and all to self-educate!)... yes from "other places" for several reasons, not the least will be to demonstrate different medical points of view. It is necessary to note, however, that the U.S. is involved in ongoing brain drain of medical pros from abroad... having quite a negative impact on many legit med pros here... in terms of their expectations for pay and benefits. THE WHOLE KIT AND KABOODLE needs an overhaul... and so, Rosemarie, I hope you 'll join hands with us in solidarity as per http://oxtogrind.org/archive/336 ...which provides a short list of supporters who I think will resonate with you. Oxbloodlove Thanks for all, Rosemarie. Sometimes having money is the worst… for getting better. That opens the door for experimentation. That opens the door for more and more incompetent care (as things stand). That said, I understand — certainly — the thrust of your comment. AND… I am — TOSCA http://oxtogrind.org/archive/364 — is all for everyone having a fair shake (and a better deal than people have right now ‘cross the board in terms of quality care) for EVERYONE here and abroad. And on that note, please note… one of the first things TOSCA would do in California is to invite doctors from little known places abroad (Cuba, if legally possible; it not possible legally…we’ll make a BIG PUBLIC FUSS to help one and all to self-educate!)… yes from “other places” for several reasons, not the least will be to demonstrate different medical points of view.

It is necessary to note, however, that the U.S. is involved in ongoing brain drain of medical pros from abroad… having quite a negative impact on many legit med pros here… in terms of their expectations for pay and benefits. THE WHOLE KIT AND KABOODLE needs an overhaul… and so, Rosemarie, I hope you ‘ll join hands with us in solidarity as per http://oxtogrind.org/archive/336 …which provides a short list of supporters who I think will resonate with you.

Oxbloodlove

]]> By: rosemarie jackowski http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/09/voila/#comment-55191 rosemarie jackowski Mon, 21 Sep 2009 20:23:04 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=10591#comment-55191 Richie...I am saddened to hear about your wife, BUT I have a relative who was diagnosed with peritoneal cancer. That's a bad one that usually has a 5 year life expectancy. My relative is now in her 10th year and is doing very well. I believe that she is surviving because she has great insurance and therefore a good doctor. Sometimes having money is the best medicine. Yes, we need Single Payer and we need it yesterday. Every day of delay means more die. What a cruel and heartless nation we have become. In the mean time, here's a suggestion. Let's make an emergency plea to other nations so that they send doctors, dentists, and other help. Castro offered doctors after Katrina but the US government refused the help and tried to keep the offer of help a secret for political reasons. The whole world knows that we need help and other countries tend to be more compassionate than the U$A. Richie…I am saddened to hear about your wife, BUT I have a relative who was diagnosed with peritoneal cancer. That’s a bad one that usually has a 5 year life expectancy. My relative is now in her 10th year and is doing very well. I believe that she is surviving because she has great insurance and therefore a good doctor. Sometimes having money is the best medicine.

Yes, we need Single Payer and we need it yesterday. Every day of delay means more die. What a cruel and heartless nation we have become. In the mean time, here’s a suggestion. Let’s make an emergency plea to other nations so that they send doctors, dentists, and other help. Castro offered doctors after Katrina but the US government refused the help and tried to keep the offer of help a secret for political reasons. The whole world knows that we need help and other countries tend to be more compassionate than the U$A.

]]> By: bozh http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/09/voila/#comment-55147 bozh Mon, 21 Sep 2009 13:21:13 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=10591#comment-55147 In order to improve life for ?all americans, we need first of all to institutionalize the right to be informed. Present- and for four hundred yrs in US; 10K yrs in the world- disinformation and miseducation are fundaments on which everything else is built; includes, of course, all person-made iniquities. Patching wld not do. Jesus or person who put words in his mouth, lenin, et al have noted this as well. There are just too many orgs and movements [patches?!] often infiltrated by also fascists. Instead, let all educators unite and spread enlightenment; from which a better life for ?all can arise. tnx In order to improve life for ?all americans, we need first of all to institutionalize the right to be informed.
Present- and for four hundred yrs in US; 10K yrs in the world- disinformation and miseducation are fundaments on which everything else is built; includes, of course, all person-made iniquities.

Patching wld not do. Jesus or person who put words in his mouth, lenin, et al have noted this as well.
There are just too many orgs and movements [patches?!] often infiltrated by also fascists.
Instead, let all educators unite and spread enlightenment; from which a better life for ?all can arise. tnx

]]> By: Richard Oxman http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/09/voila/#comment-55110 Richard Oxman Sun, 20 Sep 2009 23:59:20 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=10591#comment-55110 Thanks for your sweet, good wishes, Annie Ladysmith. I agree with the thrust of your comments about mainstream modern medicine. Impossible not to tread very carefully in that realm. Better, as you suggest, to stay far away. That's our family's attitude. Stuff was turned upside down when Pasteur was given "preference" over Bechamp; if you go to Sylvie's http://sosylvie.typepad.com/so_sylvie/cancer/ and slowly scroll down to the Zippy Breakfast article, I think it'll be quite worthwhile, especially with your angle of vision, Annie. Do go slowly as you scroll 'cause there are other scrumptuous pieces along the way. One of the things we aim to do with TOSCA http://oxtogrind.org/archive/364 is to help the public to self-educate along the lines you suggest, Annie. If you are in California or know anyone in California, I trust you'll want to get on board with us. In solidarity, Richard Thanks for your sweet, good wishes, Annie Ladysmith. I agree with the thrust of your comments about mainstream modern medicine. Impossible not to tread very carefully in that realm. Better, as you suggest, to stay far away. That’s our family’s attitude. Stuff was turned upside down when Pasteur was given “preference” over Bechamp; if you go to Sylvie’s http://sosylvie.typepad.com/so_sylvie/cancer/ and slowly scroll down to the Zippy Breakfast article, I think it’ll be quite worthwhile, especially with your angle of vision, Annie. Do go slowly as you scroll ’cause there are other scrumptuous pieces along the way.

One of the things we aim to do with TOSCA http://oxtogrind.org/archive/364 is to help the public to self-educate along the lines you suggest, Annie. If you are in California or know anyone in California, I trust you’ll want to get on board with us.

In solidarity, Richard

]]> By: Annie Ladysmith http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/09/voila/#comment-55106 Annie Ladysmith Sun, 20 Sep 2009 23:28:57 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=10591#comment-55106 I know it may be a hard concept to grasp but medicine in America is experimental by nature and the plan was first emplemented by Nazi 'doctors' that paperclip brought over. Most interventions are not to cure but to experiment and draw out the illness so there is much profit in treating it. It is as evil and corrupt as any group could possibly be and i would not put my life in the hands of modern medicine. It is an evil world system. Regardless, i hope your wife does well, her positive energy will certainly carry her through. I know it may be a hard concept to grasp but medicine in America is experimental by nature and the plan was first emplemented by Nazi ‘doctors’ that paperclip brought over.

Most interventions are not to cure but to experiment and draw out the illness so there is much profit in treating it. It is as evil and corrupt as any group could possibly be and i would not put my life in the hands of modern medicine. It is an evil world system.

Regardless, i hope your wife does well, her positive energy will certainly carry her through.

]]> By: Richard Oxman http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/09/voila/#comment-55047 Richard Oxman Sun, 20 Sep 2009 14:06:15 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=10591#comment-55047 Forgive me Deadbeat if I don't go over old ground after this with you. The TOSCA material should make it very clear that all of the issues you cite, like housing and sustenance and... all the others, are PRIME concerns of ours. The health coverage is just ONE EXAMPLE of what we would... not just address, but transform in unprecedented fashion. Deal with . Solve. Housing for everyone is a no-brainer to take care of if an administration's heart is in a healthy place. Just like sweatshops could be closed virtually overnight, and people given decent jobs and a place to live... if people in that administration were not interested in careers. That's why we want to "take over" the State of California. With promises like that on the table... there should be less questioning concerning HOW we're going to accomplish those goals than getting down time being spent with us over getting TOSCA people into a position to call shots (without having to "compromise" with gangster politicians). You're certainly welcome to ask questions. But, again, at this juncture, I think you can undertand if we make the "demand" the people who have read our "literature" get on board to some degree before descending into a realm which is just talk ad infinitum. Getting on board can mean something as small as letting us know if you know ANYONE in California. We have other simple things to ask of you if you're interested in a movement that fully intends to do more than anyone else in history vis-a-vis the issues you raise. Oxlove Forgive me Deadbeat if I don’t go over old ground after this with you. The TOSCA material should make it very clear that all of the issues you cite, like housing and sustenance and… all the others, are PRIME concerns of ours. The health coverage is just ONE EXAMPLE of what we would… not just address, but transform in unprecedented fashion. Deal with . Solve. Housing for everyone is a no-brainer to take care of if an administration’s heart is in a healthy place. Just like sweatshops could be closed virtually overnight, and people given decent jobs and a place to live… if people in that administration were not interested in careers. That’s why we want to “take over” the State of California. With promises like that on the table… there should be less questioning concerning HOW we’re going to accomplish those goals than getting down time being spent with us over getting TOSCA people into a position to call shots (without having to “compromise” with gangster politicians). You’re certainly welcome to ask questions. But, again, at this juncture, I think you can undertand if we make the “demand” the people who have read our “literature” get on board to some degree before descending into a realm which is just talk ad infinitum. Getting on board can mean something as small as letting us know if you know ANYONE in California. We have other simple things to ask of you if you’re interested in a movement that fully intends to do more than anyone else in history vis-a-vis the issues you raise. Oxlove

]]> By: Deadbeat http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/09/voila/#comment-55021 Deadbeat Sun, 20 Sep 2009 05:26:25 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=10591#comment-55021 Why not place housing at a priority. Why is housing a commodity that people have to place themselves in tremendous debt to live. Housing is a basic human needs just like health care but think of all the money that could be save is housing was restructured from being a commodity. First it would end the real estate vultures who only inflate the cost of housing and offer no value whatsoever. The same is true for real estate lawyers and the title search firms. Having guarantee housing would end homelessness and LOWER the risk of communicable disease. It would also improve the health of people facing foreclosure and calls from collection agencies. My point is why only "health care" why are these HOLISTIC issue being chopped up and demanded by the agenda set by Obama. Why isn't the Left setting is own agenda and broadening the demand. You are an environmentalist Oxman so isn't a clean environment like good food, housing, transportation, education, debt relief and income security all part of having good health? That is the kind the environmentalism that is needed and needs to be demanded in order to achieve UNIVERSALITY. Why not place housing at a priority. Why is housing a commodity that people have to place themselves in tremendous debt to live. Housing is a basic human needs just like health care but think of all the money that could be save is housing was restructured from being a commodity.

First it would end the real estate vultures who only inflate the cost of housing and offer no value whatsoever. The same is true for real estate lawyers and the title search firms. Having guarantee housing would end homelessness and LOWER the risk of communicable disease. It would also improve the health of people facing foreclosure and calls from collection agencies.

My point is why only “health care” why are these HOLISTIC issue being chopped up and demanded by the agenda set by Obama. Why isn’t the Left setting is own agenda and broadening the demand.

You are an environmentalist Oxman so isn’t a clean environment like good food, housing, transportation, education, debt relief and income security all part of having good health? That is the kind the environmentalism that is needed and needs to be demanded in order to achieve UNIVERSALITY.

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