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		<title>By: DissentFromDayOne</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/09/two-million-at-rightwing-march/#comment-55820</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 01:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey look, I came across an old hippy website still fighting for &quot;justice.&quot;

You freakin&#039; CIA-sponsored losers were p3nwd and used for decades thinking you were fighting for your precious &quot;justice.&quot;

You better get your candy-asses back onto the streets because the 0bama FASCISTS are here people (see G20) .... the useful idiot Fabians are STILL being  used to push the left vs. right bullshit while the international banksters and their Foundations enslave the world.

Oh wait....let&#039;s all jump on Al Gore&#039;s 100-yacht or go to the latest Michael Mo-ron movie and prove how &quot;intellectual&quot; we are .... not.

When I hear &quot;justice&quot; I know I&#039;m dealing with a totalitarian or some tenured professor who has never done a THING in his/her pathetic life, trying to steal my liberty.

It&#039;s not about &quot;justice&quot; you freakin&#039; collectivists. It&#039;s about liberty. Now go</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey look, I came across an old hippy website still fighting for &#8220;justice.&#8221;</p>
<p>You freakin&#8217; CIA-sponsored losers were p3nwd and used for decades thinking you were fighting for your precious &#8220;justice.&#8221;</p>
<p>You better get your candy-asses back onto the streets because the 0bama FASCISTS are here people (see G20) &#8230;. the useful idiot Fabians are STILL being  used to push the left vs. right bullshit while the international banksters and their Foundations enslave the world.</p>
<p>Oh wait&#8230;.let&#8217;s all jump on Al Gore&#8217;s 100-yacht or go to the latest Michael Mo-ron movie and prove how &#8220;intellectual&#8221; we are &#8230;. not.</p>
<p>When I hear &#8220;justice&#8221; I know I&#8217;m dealing with a totalitarian or some tenured professor who has never done a THING in his/her pathetic life, trying to steal my liberty.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not about &#8220;justice&#8221; you freakin&#8217; collectivists. It&#8217;s about liberty. Now go</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/09/two-million-at-rightwing-march/#comment-54782</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 01:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Severe drought continues to affect over a million people in southern China. According to China’s state-run television, more than 70 cities and counties in the province of Guangxi are experiencing water shortages.

In Guangdong Province, the drought has continued for three months, causing a drinking water shortage for about 66,800 residents in the region, according to communist China&#039;s Xinhua news agency.

Meanwhile, in Guizhou Province, authorities estimate that over two million people and livestock have been affected by drought. In some villages, fire trucks have been called in to provide water for residents up to eight times a day, but it’s still not enough.  China TV


Climate change activists reacted sharply yesterday to indications from Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) that cap-and-trade legislation may have to wait until 2010, warning that the delay could derail international negotiations in Copenhagen.


Annie Petsonk, international counsel for Environmental Defense Fund, said she fears the U.N. talks slated for December will flounder without a clear plan from President Obama to move climate legislation through Congress.
&quot;The appearance to the international community would be that the U.S. Congress is just adrift,&quot; she said.  NYT

  And so it goes, adrift in a sea of foolishness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Severe drought continues to affect over a million people in southern China. According to China’s state-run television, more than 70 cities and counties in the province of Guangxi are experiencing water shortages.</p>
<p>In Guangdong Province, the drought has continued for three months, causing a drinking water shortage for about 66,800 residents in the region, according to communist China&#8217;s Xinhua news agency.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, in Guizhou Province, authorities estimate that over two million people and livestock have been affected by drought. In some villages, fire trucks have been called in to provide water for residents up to eight times a day, but it’s still not enough.  China TV</p>
<p>Climate change activists reacted sharply yesterday to indications from Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) that cap-and-trade legislation may have to wait until 2010, warning that the delay could derail international negotiations in Copenhagen.</p>
<p>Annie Petsonk, international counsel for Environmental Defense Fund, said she fears the U.N. talks slated for December will flounder without a clear plan from President Obama to move climate legislation through Congress.<br />
&#8220;The appearance to the international community would be that the U.S. Congress is just adrift,&#8221; she said.  NYT</p>
<p>  And so it goes, adrift in a sea of foolishness.</p>
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		<title>By: B99</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/09/two-million-at-rightwing-march/#comment-54779</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 23:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The nuclear power industry was moribund for decades following 3-Mile Island and Chernobyl.  The reason that alternative energies has progressed only a minute fraction of where it should be is that Reagan and the Republicans squashed it in favor of big business - coal, oil, autos.  Carter was the last president on the right track - but he was dumped for a grade B actor, the first in a series of personalities masquerading as statesmen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The nuclear power industry was moribund for decades following 3-Mile Island and Chernobyl.  The reason that alternative energies has progressed only a minute fraction of where it should be is that Reagan and the Republicans squashed it in favor of big business &#8211; coal, oil, autos.  Carter was the last president on the right track &#8211; but he was dumped for a grade B actor, the first in a series of personalities masquerading as statesmen.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/09/two-million-at-rightwing-march/#comment-54778</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 22:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/sep/16/china-two-degree-rise

  China looks like full speed ahead at least for awhile.</description>
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<p>  China looks like full speed ahead at least for awhile.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/09/two-million-at-rightwing-march/#comment-54777</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 22:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler.  Slow growth as much as possible.  It&#039;s going to happen anyway.</description>
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		<title>By: lichen</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/09/two-million-at-rightwing-march/#comment-54775</link>
		<dc:creator>lichen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 21:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, some European countries have come pretty far in developing and utilizing solar, wind, geothermal, and tidal power on a large scale and to good effect; they are less expensive, quicker, and easier than nuclear, with a smaller carbon footprint; they are also do-it-yourself, decentralized power arrangements.  I&#039;m sure if it weren&#039;t for the nuclear industry spending millions of dollars to advertise itself, it wouldn&#039;t be advertised so much.  Frankly, in a really hostile environment and crisis situations, societal breakdown, there will not be enough stability to run such albotrosses.  Personally, I&#039;d go with a less radioactive, less toxic world that doesn&#039;t have any electricity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, some European countries have come pretty far in developing and utilizing solar, wind, geothermal, and tidal power on a large scale and to good effect; they are less expensive, quicker, and easier than nuclear, with a smaller carbon footprint; they are also do-it-yourself, decentralized power arrangements.  I&#8217;m sure if it weren&#8217;t for the nuclear industry spending millions of dollars to advertise itself, it wouldn&#8217;t be advertised so much.  Frankly, in a really hostile environment and crisis situations, societal breakdown, there will not be enough stability to run such albotrosses.  Personally, I&#8217;d go with a less radioactive, less toxic world that doesn&#8217;t have any electricity.</p>
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		<title>By: B99</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/09/two-million-at-rightwing-march/#comment-54774</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 21:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No doubt nuclear plants are bad.  I&#039;ve always been against them.  But thirty some-odd years after all developed societies should have focused on alternative (and non-nuclear) solutions to the fuel crisis it is now apparently likely that the solutions will not come from the various wind, water, solar sources.  Certainly, research should be quintupled  by the gov&#039;t.  But I don&#039;t see it happening under Obama or his successor.  So progress will fall increasingly behind need.  I think nuke plants will be back and perhaps even China will lead the way.  Otherwise we die of coal-plant carbon emissions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No doubt nuclear plants are bad.  I&#8217;ve always been against them.  But thirty some-odd years after all developed societies should have focused on alternative (and non-nuclear) solutions to the fuel crisis it is now apparently likely that the solutions will not come from the various wind, water, solar sources.  Certainly, research should be quintupled  by the gov&#8217;t.  But I don&#8217;t see it happening under Obama or his successor.  So progress will fall increasingly behind need.  I think nuke plants will be back and perhaps even China will lead the way.  Otherwise we die of coal-plant carbon emissions.</p>
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		<title>By: lichen</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/09/two-million-at-rightwing-march/#comment-54767</link>
		<dc:creator>lichen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 20:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nuclear power contributes to global warming, is not carbon-free, is not safe, and certainly not renewable or recyclable.  It can, however, pad a few billionares pockets and make the world a much more toxic place. 

Alan Weisman, The World Without Us wrote:
“Together, the worlds 441 functioning nuclear plants annually produce almost 13,000 tons of high-level nuclear scrap.”

“…Used nuclear fuel, some of it decades old, languishes in holding tanks. Oddly, it is up to a million times more radioactive than when it was fresh. While in the reactor, it began mutating into elements heavier than enriched uranium, such as isotopes of plutonium and americium. That process continues in the waste dumps, where used hot rods exchange neutrons and expel alpha and beta particles, gamma rays, and heat.”

So, nuclear power currently makes up 14% of the worlds energy through 441 plants producing 13,000 tons of radioactive waste per year, which continues to concentrate into more poisonous radioactive sludge as is it stored. Let&#039;s say if 100% of the worlds energy was made by nuclear power, that would make 3087 nuclear plants producing 91,000 tons of toxic nuclear waste per year (year after year, always building up, never decreasing, never biodegrading) mutating more as it is stored, and with NOWHERE TO GO, except, inevitably, the poison the people/land that couldn&#039;t fight hard enough to keep it out of their backyard.


&quot;Saying nuclear is carbon-free is not true,&quot; says Uwe Fritsche, a researcher at the Öko Institut in Darmstadt, Germany, who has conducted a life-cycle analysis of the plants. &quot;It&#039;s less carbon-intensive than fossil fuel.  Nuclear power has more than just a little greenhouse gas attached to it, when mining uranium ore, refining and enriching fuel, building the plant, and operating it are included. A big 1,250 megawatt plant produces the equivalent of 250,000 tons of carbon dioxide a year during its life, Dr. Fritsche says.&quot;

One has to also point to the MINING that needs to be done for nuclear power, which is always bad for the planet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nuclear power contributes to global warming, is not carbon-free, is not safe, and certainly not renewable or recyclable.  It can, however, pad a few billionares pockets and make the world a much more toxic place. </p>
<p>Alan Weisman, The World Without Us wrote:<br />
“Together, the worlds 441 functioning nuclear plants annually produce almost 13,000 tons of high-level nuclear scrap.”</p>
<p>“…Used nuclear fuel, some of it decades old, languishes in holding tanks. Oddly, it is up to a million times more radioactive than when it was fresh. While in the reactor, it began mutating into elements heavier than enriched uranium, such as isotopes of plutonium and americium. That process continues in the waste dumps, where used hot rods exchange neutrons and expel alpha and beta particles, gamma rays, and heat.”</p>
<p>So, nuclear power currently makes up 14% of the worlds energy through 441 plants producing 13,000 tons of radioactive waste per year, which continues to concentrate into more poisonous radioactive sludge as is it stored. Let&#8217;s say if 100% of the worlds energy was made by nuclear power, that would make 3087 nuclear plants producing 91,000 tons of toxic nuclear waste per year (year after year, always building up, never decreasing, never biodegrading) mutating more as it is stored, and with NOWHERE TO GO, except, inevitably, the poison the people/land that couldn&#8217;t fight hard enough to keep it out of their backyard.</p>
<p>&#8220;Saying nuclear is carbon-free is not true,&#8221; says Uwe Fritsche, a researcher at the Öko Institut in Darmstadt, Germany, who has conducted a life-cycle analysis of the plants. &#8220;It&#8217;s less carbon-intensive than fossil fuel.  Nuclear power has more than just a little greenhouse gas attached to it, when mining uranium ore, refining and enriching fuel, building the plant, and operating it are included. A big 1,250 megawatt plant produces the equivalent of 250,000 tons of carbon dioxide a year during its life, Dr. Fritsche says.&#8221;</p>
<p>One has to also point to the MINING that needs to be done for nuclear power, which is always bad for the planet.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/09/two-million-at-rightwing-march/#comment-54744</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 14:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear George, 
    On the desk in front of me is a set of graphs. The horizontal axis of each represents the years 1750 to 2000. The graphs show, variously, population levels, CO2 concentration in the atmosphere, exploitation of fisheries, destruction of tropical forests, paper consumption, number of motor vehicles, water use, the rate of species extinction and the totality of the human economy&#039;s gross domestic product.
    What grips me about these graphs (and graphs don&#039;t usually grip me) is that though they all show very different things, they have an almost identical shape. A line begins on the left of the page, rising gradually as it moves to the right. Then, in the last inch or so - around 1950 - it veers steeply upwards, like a pilot banking after a cliff has suddenly appeared from what he thought was an empty bank of cloud.
    The root cause of all these trends is the same: a rapacious human economy bringing the world swiftly to the brink of chaos. We know this; some of us even attempt to stop it happening. Yet all of these trends continue to get rapidly worse, and there is no sign of that changing soon. What these graphs make clear better than anything else is the cold reality: there is a serious crash on the way. Paul Kingsnorth

Dear Paul,

    Yes, the words I use are fierce, but yours are strangely neutral. I note that you have failed to answer my question about how many people the world could support without modern forms of energy and the systems they sustain, but 2 billion is surely the optimistic extreme. You describe this mass cull as &quot;a long descent&quot; or a &quot;retreat to a saner world&quot;. Have you ever considered a job in the Ministry of Defence press office?

    I draw the trifling issue of a few billion fatalities to your attention not to make you look like a heartless fascist but because it&#039;s a reality with which you refuse to engage. You don&#039;t see it because to do so would be to accept the need for action. But of course you aren&#039;t doing nothing. You propose to stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood, and, er … &quot;get some perspective on the root cause of this crisis&quot;. Fine: we could all do with some perspective. But without action - informed, focused and immediate - the crisis will happen. I agree that the chances of success are small. But they are non-existent if we give up before we have started. You mock this impulse as a &quot;craving for control&quot;. I see it as an attempt at survival.

    What could you do? You know the answer as well as I do. Join up, protest, propose, create. It&#039;s messy, endless and uncertain of success. Perhaps you see yourself as above this futility, but it&#039;s all we&#039;ve got and all we&#039;ve ever had. And sometimes it works.  George Monbiot

     Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler. Einstein</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear George,<br />
    On the desk in front of me is a set of graphs. The horizontal axis of each represents the years 1750 to 2000. The graphs show, variously, population levels, CO2 concentration in the atmosphere, exploitation of fisheries, destruction of tropical forests, paper consumption, number of motor vehicles, water use, the rate of species extinction and the totality of the human economy&#8217;s gross domestic product.<br />
    What grips me about these graphs (and graphs don&#8217;t usually grip me) is that though they all show very different things, they have an almost identical shape. A line begins on the left of the page, rising gradually as it moves to the right. Then, in the last inch or so &#8211; around 1950 &#8211; it veers steeply upwards, like a pilot banking after a cliff has suddenly appeared from what he thought was an empty bank of cloud.<br />
    The root cause of all these trends is the same: a rapacious human economy bringing the world swiftly to the brink of chaos. We know this; some of us even attempt to stop it happening. Yet all of these trends continue to get rapidly worse, and there is no sign of that changing soon. What these graphs make clear better than anything else is the cold reality: there is a serious crash on the way. Paul Kingsnorth</p>
<p>Dear Paul,</p>
<p>    Yes, the words I use are fierce, but yours are strangely neutral. I note that you have failed to answer my question about how many people the world could support without modern forms of energy and the systems they sustain, but 2 billion is surely the optimistic extreme. You describe this mass cull as &#8220;a long descent&#8221; or a &#8220;retreat to a saner world&#8221;. Have you ever considered a job in the Ministry of Defence press office?</p>
<p>    I draw the trifling issue of a few billion fatalities to your attention not to make you look like a heartless fascist but because it&#8217;s a reality with which you refuse to engage. You don&#8217;t see it because to do so would be to accept the need for action. But of course you aren&#8217;t doing nothing. You propose to stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood, and, er … &#8220;get some perspective on the root cause of this crisis&#8221;. Fine: we could all do with some perspective. But without action &#8211; informed, focused and immediate &#8211; the crisis will happen. I agree that the chances of success are small. But they are non-existent if we give up before we have started. You mock this impulse as a &#8220;craving for control&#8221;. I see it as an attempt at survival.</p>
<p>    What could you do? You know the answer as well as I do. Join up, protest, propose, create. It&#8217;s messy, endless and uncertain of success. Perhaps you see yourself as above this futility, but it&#8217;s all we&#8217;ve got and all we&#8217;ve ever had. And sometimes it works.  George Monbiot</p>
<p>     Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler. Einstein</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/09/two-million-at-rightwing-march/#comment-54725</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 03:24:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forth generation nuclear could help and to me Lovelock is very good at looking at the big picture and telling it the way he see&#039;s it.  Unfortunately he has been right so far.  How did he say that green is the color of money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forth generation nuclear could help and to me Lovelock is very good at looking at the big picture and telling it the way he see&#8217;s it.  Unfortunately he has been right so far.  How did he say that green is the color of money.</p>
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		<title>By: lichen</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/09/two-million-at-rightwing-march/#comment-54719</link>
		<dc:creator>lichen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 01:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James lovelock is a shill for the multi-billion nuclear industry, that is why he wrongly insists that solar, wind, tidal, and geothermal are not currently ready to run our world with a vastly lesser footprint.  He wants to fill Gaiai with so much nuclear scrap that we will all be poisoned.  Look up Harvery Wasserman, Don, if you really believe the nuclear line.  Only someone who truly wants climate collapse would insist that green energy doesn&#039;t work and therefore we better speed on ahead with oil, gas, and coal.  Nuclear isn&#039;t financially or environmentally feasible. 

And as for the &#039;bias&#039; of this site, if you don&#039;t like it, you can leave; everything is biased, and personally, I choose this bias and the bias of democracy now, counterpunch, to the biases of the new york times, cnn, and fox news.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James lovelock is a shill for the multi-billion nuclear industry, that is why he wrongly insists that solar, wind, tidal, and geothermal are not currently ready to run our world with a vastly lesser footprint.  He wants to fill Gaiai with so much nuclear scrap that we will all be poisoned.  Look up Harvery Wasserman, Don, if you really believe the nuclear line.  Only someone who truly wants climate collapse would insist that green energy doesn&#8217;t work and therefore we better speed on ahead with oil, gas, and coal.  Nuclear isn&#8217;t financially or environmentally feasible. </p>
<p>And as for the &#8216;bias&#8217; of this site, if you don&#8217;t like it, you can leave; everything is biased, and personally, I choose this bias and the bias of democracy now, counterpunch, to the biases of the new york times, cnn, and fox news.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/09/two-million-at-rightwing-march/#comment-54718</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 00:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kalidas no they are not.  The Earth&#039;s atmosphere is a little unique, rare and not just in our solar system think bigger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kalidas no they are not.  The Earth&#8217;s atmosphere is a little unique, rare and not just in our solar system think bigger.</p>
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		<title>By: kalidas</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/09/two-million-at-rightwing-march/#comment-54716</link>
		<dc:creator>kalidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 00:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aren&#039;t other planets and moons in our solar system also experiencing a similar proportionate warming?
As in the sun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aren&#8217;t other planets and moons in our solar system also experiencing a similar proportionate warming?<br />
As in the sun.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/09/two-million-at-rightwing-march/#comment-54713</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 21:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In fact four of the five warmest decades in the past 2,000 years occurred after 1950, according to the study, which will be published tomorrow in the journal Science. 

The new study &quot;doesn&#039;t seem that surprising, but it&#039;s good to confirm what researchers were already thinking,&quot; said Bret-Harte,  NG

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/bigphotos/15234166.html

  A Herculean effort and should be easy to see if we try.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In fact four of the five warmest decades in the past 2,000 years occurred after 1950, according to the study, which will be published tomorrow in the journal Science. </p>
<p>The new study &#8220;doesn&#8217;t seem that surprising, but it&#8217;s good to confirm what researchers were already thinking,&#8221; said Bret-Harte,  NG</p>
<p><a href="http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/bigphotos/15234166.html" rel="nofollow">http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/bigphotos/15234166.html</a></p>
<p>  A Herculean effort and should be easy to see if we try.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/09/two-million-at-rightwing-march/#comment-54710</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 20:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The middle East no water in 30 years the Mediterranean drought unlivable Central Europe same. There&#039;s more. Here&#039;s a thought Alligators Sweden 50 years. 

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/09/090903-arctic-warming-ice-age.html

   One of the little problems of course with climate change is it put&#039;s a little monkey wrench in on time delivery.   Considerable ingenuity and probably better to start now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The middle East no water in 30 years the Mediterranean drought unlivable Central Europe same. There&#8217;s more. Here&#8217;s a thought Alligators Sweden 50 years. </p>
<p><a href="http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/09/090903-arctic-warming-ice-age.html" rel="nofollow">http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/09/090903-arctic-warming-ice-age.html</a></p>
<p>   One of the little problems of course with climate change is it put&#8217;s a little monkey wrench in on time delivery.   Considerable ingenuity and probably better to start now.</p>
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		<title>By: b99</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/09/two-million-at-rightwing-march/#comment-54704</link>
		<dc:creator>b99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Synic - the natural cycles of warming and cooling have to do with the earth&#039;s angle to the sun (now 23.5% but this changes over the eons),  and its orbit around the sun, which trajectory changes ever so slightly over the eons.

These processes are also going on now - ever so slowly.  But they are supplemented or mitigated by known anthropogenic chemical processes - reactions that have been confirmed over and over in laboratory experiments.  So when we measure molecular content in air, soil, and water and find substantial change - that is, to levels heretofore not existent on earth, we can only conclude that these changes are not only anthropogenic in origin, but will likely create environmental conditions that will cause havoc and displacement and require considerable ingenuity on the part of humans to cope with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Synic &#8211; the natural cycles of warming and cooling have to do with the earth&#8217;s angle to the sun (now 23.5% but this changes over the eons),  and its orbit around the sun, which trajectory changes ever so slightly over the eons.</p>
<p>These processes are also going on now &#8211; ever so slowly.  But they are supplemented or mitigated by known anthropogenic chemical processes &#8211; reactions that have been confirmed over and over in laboratory experiments.  So when we measure molecular content in air, soil, and water and find substantial change &#8211; that is, to levels heretofore not existent on earth, we can only conclude that these changes are not only anthropogenic in origin, but will likely create environmental conditions that will cause havoc and displacement and require considerable ingenuity on the part of humans to cope with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Synic3</title>
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		<dc:creator>Synic3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 18:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The climate is definitely warming up. I visited many glaciers in different parts of the world and all of them have retreated significantly in the last couple of decades except one in Argentina.
Whether that is due to green house effect  gases or due to cyclic warming and cooling of the earth I don&#039;t really know and I leave that to scientists.
But difinitel we should reduce burning fossil fuels because of acid rain and the mercury it dumps in the world air and water and because of breathing all that polluted air!!
The earth went through several cycles of warming and cooling and the ocean rose and fell several times before.  Any good explanation for that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The climate is definitely warming up. I visited many glaciers in different parts of the world and all of them have retreated significantly in the last couple of decades except one in Argentina.<br />
Whether that is due to green house effect  gases or due to cyclic warming and cooling of the earth I don&#8217;t really know and I leave that to scientists.<br />
But difinitel we should reduce burning fossil fuels because of acid rain and the mercury it dumps in the world air and water and because of breathing all that polluted air!!<br />
The earth went through several cycles of warming and cooling and the ocean rose and fell several times before.  Any good explanation for that.</p>
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		<title>By: b99</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 17:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But USF - Stalin and Mao were demagogues, and Stalin can&#039;t even be said to be a socialist/communist.  These are mass murderers.  You&#039;re joking about these types being our political leaders, no?  Jeez, I hope Morales and Chavez are not Stalinists.  And Castro, what kind of liberation is that when the Supreme Leader refuses to get off the stage and eventually puts his brother in charge - Nepotisma-Socialistica?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But USF &#8211; Stalin and Mao were demagogues, and Stalin can&#8217;t even be said to be a socialist/communist.  These are mass murderers.  You&#8217;re joking about these types being our political leaders, no?  Jeez, I hope Morales and Chavez are not Stalinists.  And Castro, what kind of liberation is that when the Supreme Leader refuses to get off the stage and eventually puts his brother in charge &#8211; Nepotisma-Socialistica?</p>
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		<title>By: b99</title>
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		<dc:creator>b99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 17:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lovelock is right that alternative sources of energy are largely tokens - and they are tokens that function to assuage us that progress is being made on the non-carbon energy front.   Traditional energy companies don&#039;t mind it if there are a few windmills here and there and a few solar panels here and  there if these companies are still permitted to function and grow - and especially if these new-fangled energy sources are made to tie in to the company&#039;s energy grid.  

It&#039;s like recycling soda cans.  In recycling we do free labor to offset the costs of the can producers - in  the meantime they are producing more cans than ever - over and above the recycled cans.  All that does is provide us with more cans to recycle while total &#039;can load&#039; on the environment increases.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lovelock is right that alternative sources of energy are largely tokens &#8211; and they are tokens that function to assuage us that progress is being made on the non-carbon energy front.   Traditional energy companies don&#8217;t mind it if there are a few windmills here and there and a few solar panels here and  there if these companies are still permitted to function and grow &#8211; and especially if these new-fangled energy sources are made to tie in to the company&#8217;s energy grid.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s like recycling soda cans.  In recycling we do free labor to offset the costs of the can producers &#8211; in  the meantime they are producing more cans than ever &#8211; over and above the recycled cans.  All that does is provide us with more cans to recycle while total &#8216;can load&#8217; on the environment increases.</p>
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		<title>By: United-Socialist-Front</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/09/two-million-at-rightwing-march/#comment-54696</link>
		<dc:creator>United-Socialist-Front</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 17:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BEWARE OF THE IDEOLOGY OF RON PAUL AND LIBERTARIANISM !!

RON PAUL&#039;S ULTRA-RIGHT WING LIBERTARIANISM IS THE SAME IDEOLOGY OF BUSH AND NEOCONS.  IT IS A FASCIST IDEOLOGY !!

BEWARE OF CAPITALISTS OF THE ULTRA-RIGHT WING TEA PARTY.  THEY ARE DANGEROUS PEOPLE. ANTI FOOD STAMPS, AND ANTI-TAXES.  TAXES ARE NECESSARY, EVEN HUGO CHAVEZ INCREASED TAXES TO FACE CRISIS.  RON PAUL AND LIBERTARIANS ARE ULTRA-RIGHT WINGERS. 

Don&#039;t believe in the ultra-right wing, libertarian conspiracy theorists.  The Tea Party, libertarian, ultra-right wing movement is funded by Republican Party corporations like Wal Mart to destroy the American Socialist Parties.  And socialism, welfare-state  is the only solution to reduce poverty levels in USA.

Here are 2 great links explaining why libertarianism is corrupt-capitalism, a fascist, far-right oligarchic ideology and a very wrong ideology to benefit business-owners not the homeless, poor blacks and poor latinos who are beating the bullets in America:

http://martinkelly.blogspot.com/2008/03/why-libertarianism-is-wrong-and-will.html  

http://web.inter.nl.net/users/Paul.Treanor/libertarian.html

beware of the far-right, libertarian conspiracy theory movement that rose after 9-11. Many in the conspiracy-theory movement are siding with the Tea Party, town hall protests (I lost my interest for Michael Rivero and Alex Jones when these 2 conspiracists sided with the Tea Party Town Hall protests)

 Beware of libertarianism !! A very fascist ideology within the US Gov. USA government and system is so libertarian that it even has Federal Express (private mail) trying to destroy the US gov. mail (USPS) US postal Service. Even Amtrak (US gov. trains) have victim of sabotage by libertarian think tanks in America like The heritage club, the john birsch society (free market think tanks trying to force pure free market in USA)

The Tea Naggers aka Beckerheads did not see that it was their unchecked economic philosophy that caused the economy to tank. they somehow do see that the same unchecked philosophy will fix it. They did not see it is that same unchecked philosophy which has caused health care prices to soar, causing hardships on individuals and most economic institutions. But once again they do see that more of the same will somehow cure it. They did not see that in the Health Care Bill it specifically states in all caps that, Illegal Immigrants will not be allowed to participate in this plan. They again somehow see that it will provide insurance for illegal immigrants. They did not see the Voluntary provisions for living wills, but did see mandatory death panels in its place. Now they are yelling on CNN &quot;Tell the truth, Tell the Truth&quot; and &quot;No more lies, No more lies&quot; O.K. here it is. You all are to civil debate, what professional wrestling is to the Olympics. You are to logic, what the perpetual motion machine is to physics. You are to intellectual honesty, what the Loch Ness monster is to the study of dinosaurs.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BEWARE OF THE IDEOLOGY OF RON PAUL AND LIBERTARIANISM !!</p>
<p>RON PAUL&#8217;S ULTRA-RIGHT WING LIBERTARIANISM IS THE SAME IDEOLOGY OF BUSH AND NEOCONS.  IT IS A FASCIST IDEOLOGY !!</p>
<p>BEWARE OF CAPITALISTS OF THE ULTRA-RIGHT WING TEA PARTY.  THEY ARE DANGEROUS PEOPLE. ANTI FOOD STAMPS, AND ANTI-TAXES.  TAXES ARE NECESSARY, EVEN HUGO CHAVEZ INCREASED TAXES TO FACE CRISIS.  RON PAUL AND LIBERTARIANS ARE ULTRA-RIGHT WINGERS. </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t believe in the ultra-right wing, libertarian conspiracy theorists.  The Tea Party, libertarian, ultra-right wing movement is funded by Republican Party corporations like Wal Mart to destroy the American Socialist Parties.  And socialism, welfare-state  is the only solution to reduce poverty levels in USA.</p>
<p>Here are 2 great links explaining why libertarianism is corrupt-capitalism, a fascist, far-right oligarchic ideology and a very wrong ideology to benefit business-owners not the homeless, poor blacks and poor latinos who are beating the bullets in America:</p>
<p><a href="http://martinkelly.blogspot.com/2008/03/why-libertarianism-is-wrong-and-will.html" rel="nofollow">http://martinkelly.blogspot.com/2008/03/why-libertarianism-is-wrong-and-will.html</a>  </p>
<p><a href="http://web.inter.nl.net/users/Paul.Treanor/libertarian.html" rel="nofollow">http://web.inter.nl.net/users/Paul.Treanor/libertarian.html</a></p>
<p>beware of the far-right, libertarian conspiracy theory movement that rose after 9-11. Many in the conspiracy-theory movement are siding with the Tea Party, town hall protests (I lost my interest for Michael Rivero and Alex Jones when these 2 conspiracists sided with the Tea Party Town Hall protests)</p>
<p> Beware of libertarianism !! A very fascist ideology within the US Gov. USA government and system is so libertarian that it even has Federal Express (private mail) trying to destroy the US gov. mail (USPS) US postal Service. Even Amtrak (US gov. trains) have victim of sabotage by libertarian think tanks in America like The heritage club, the john birsch society (free market think tanks trying to force pure free market in USA)</p>
<p>The Tea Naggers aka Beckerheads did not see that it was their unchecked economic philosophy that caused the economy to tank. they somehow do see that the same unchecked philosophy will fix it. They did not see it is that same unchecked philosophy which has caused health care prices to soar, causing hardships on individuals and most economic institutions. But once again they do see that more of the same will somehow cure it. They did not see that in the Health Care Bill it specifically states in all caps that, Illegal Immigrants will not be allowed to participate in this plan. They again somehow see that it will provide insurance for illegal immigrants. They did not see the Voluntary provisions for living wills, but did see mandatory death panels in its place. Now they are yelling on CNN &#8220;Tell the truth, Tell the Truth&#8221; and &#8220;No more lies, No more lies&#8221; O.K. here it is. You all are to civil debate, what professional wrestling is to the Olympics. You are to logic, what the perpetual motion machine is to physics. You are to intellectual honesty, what the Loch Ness monster is to the study of dinosaurs.</p>
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