Comments on: The US and Canada: Different Forms of Medical Rationing http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/09/the-us-and-canada-different-forms-of-medical-rationing/ a radical newsletter in the struggle for peace and social justice Thu, 08 Dec 2011 15:07:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Annie Ladysmith http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/09/the-us-and-canada-different-forms-of-medical-rationing/#comment-53690 Annie Ladysmith Fri, 04 Sep 2009 07:07:55 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=10249#comment-53690 i am o SO sick an' tired of hearing 'experts' (usually stupid doctors) opinions of what constitutes fair health care for all, everyone should be entitled to heaith care from the cradle to the grave, abortion should be included in the universal plan, yada...yada... Please shut-up and write about something else like how much doctors make per hour compared to the rest of us. PLEASE shut-up already! This nonsense is a smoke-screen to get our attention away from the acts of treachery and infamy our government is drowning us in. Don't listen to this dribble. When 'health care' is broken into it's fractions most of us wouldn't want what's offered if we really thought about it. 'Health care' is a misnomer, it is in reality sick/death care. A lot of people, like doctors, make a lot of money on sick people, the sicker they can make you, the more money they get. How about a cancer 'cure', yeah, no thanks. The Canuck system actually works well for the basics, again, when it comes to the 'speciality' 'treatments' no sane, intelligent person who thinks would line up for any of it. i am o SO sick an’ tired of hearing ‘experts’ (usually stupid doctors) opinions of what constitutes fair health care for all, everyone should be entitled to heaith care from the cradle to the grave, abortion should be included in the universal plan, yada…yada…

Please shut-up and write about something else like how much doctors make per hour compared to the rest of us. PLEASE shut-up already! This nonsense is a smoke-screen to get our attention away from the acts of treachery and infamy our government is drowning us in. Don’t listen to this dribble. When ‘health care’ is broken into it’s fractions most of us wouldn’t want what’s offered if we really thought about it. ‘Health care’ is a misnomer, it is in reality sick/death care. A lot of people, like doctors, make a lot of money on sick people, the sicker they can make you, the more money they get. How about a cancer ‘cure’, yeah, no thanks.

The Canuck system actually works well for the basics, again, when it comes to the ‘speciality’ ‘treatments’ no sane, intelligent person who thinks would line up for any of it.

]]> By: lloyd http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/09/the-us-and-canada-different-forms-of-medical-rationing/#comment-53674 lloyd Fri, 04 Sep 2009 02:46:38 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=10249#comment-53674 I answer your question, GeorgeWatts, with a question of my own: what is wrong with imposing a 10% humanity-tax on all international corporations, and thereby meeting the basic health requirements of the poor of the non-civilized world, and of America? I answer your question, GeorgeWatts, with a question of my own: what is wrong with imposing a 10% humanity-tax on all international corporations, and thereby meeting the basic health requirements of the poor of the non-civilized world, and of America?

]]> By: GeorgeWatts http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/09/the-us-and-canada-different-forms-of-medical-rationing/#comment-53662 GeorgeWatts Thu, 03 Sep 2009 23:42:09 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=10249#comment-53662 The author states that health care should not be rationed. But common sense dictates that anything that is not an unlimited resource has to be rationed. The question is not whether or not to ration. The question is what is the most equitable way to ration. Americans ration health care based on wealth. The rest of the civilized world rations health care based on medical urgency. What is wrong with the triage model? The author states that health care should not be rationed. But common sense dictates that anything that is not an unlimited resource has to be rationed. The question is not whether or not to ration. The question is what is the most equitable way to ration. Americans ration health care based on wealth. The rest of the civilized world rations health care based on medical urgency. What is wrong with the triage model?

]]> By: lichen http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/09/the-us-and-canada-different-forms-of-medical-rationing/#comment-53653 lichen Thu, 03 Sep 2009 21:06:06 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=10249#comment-53653 This is an interesting article, and is much as I have heard from some Canadians. I want to ask the author, however, is there a certain national medical system that we can hold up as being the best? I've always known there is better than Canada, even though, certainly, Canada's system is better than the US one. I don't agree that we have to tie a truly great single payer campaign to "labor," which is exclusive, outdated, and dead. You say in the article that "American workers continue to be divided by race and dominated by union bureaucrats who collaborate with management." The vast, vast majority of american workers are not connected to any union, or union bureaucrats at all. I think a wide campaign for things like guaranteed single payer, living wages for all, good working conditions, guaranteed housing, real environmental solutions...could be coalesced into one, but we don't need the old labels and politics of 'labor' to do that. This is an interesting article, and is much as I have heard from some Canadians. I want to ask the author, however, is there a certain national medical system that we can hold up as being the best? I’ve always known there is better than Canada, even though, certainly, Canada’s system is better than the US one.

I don’t agree that we have to tie a truly great single payer campaign to “labor,” which is exclusive, outdated, and dead. You say in the article that “American workers continue to be divided by race and dominated by union bureaucrats who collaborate with management.” The vast, vast majority of american workers are not connected to any union, or union bureaucrats at all. I think a wide campaign for things like guaranteed single payer, living wages for all, good working conditions, guaranteed housing, real environmental solutions…could be coalesced into one, but we don’t need the old labels and politics of ‘labor’ to do that.

]]> By: Michael Kenny http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/09/the-us-and-canada-different-forms-of-medical-rationing/#comment-53635 Michael Kenny Thu, 03 Sep 2009 17:59:17 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=10249#comment-53635 Why are Canadian authors always arguing in favour of the US status quo? The Canadian health care system has been held up as a model to Americans, so the Canadian health care system has to be discredited! Obviously, the best way to do that is to dress the whole thing up in socialist-sounding jargon. After all, the old fogeys of America's pseudo-left always fall for that hook, line and sinker! Or do they? Why are Canadian authors always arguing in favour of the US status quo? The Canadian health care system has been held up as a model to Americans, so the Canadian health care system has to be discredited! Obviously, the best way to do that is to dress the whole thing up in socialist-sounding jargon. After all, the old fogeys of America’s pseudo-left always fall for that hook, line and sinker! Or do they?

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