Comments on: The Pathology of Evil http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/09/the-pathology-of-evil/ a radical newsletter in the struggle for peace and social justice Thu, 08 Dec 2011 15:07:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Lance Watson http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/09/the-pathology-of-evil/#comment-56387 Lance Watson Mon, 05 Oct 2009 06:05:35 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=10800#comment-56387 Mulga Mumblebrain said on October 4th, 2009 at 4:48pm in the blog A Story of Betrayal by Uri Avnery / October 3rd, 2009 ....As for ‘Jew-hatred’, this is invariably a smear, meant to silence and intimidate, emanating from a virulent Islamophobe of some type-you know the sort of creep who defends Israel’s brutish levelling of Gaza and the one hundred to one death-toll inflicted there, as a fully equipped modern military apparatus slaughtered defenceless civilioans. The Zionazi fundies, of course, welcome ‘Jew-hatred’ and do everything they can, through their thuggish arrogance, open contempt for the rest of humanity, and murderous brutality, to foster it. ‘Jew-hatred’ is useful cement, I think the Nazis talked of ‘blood-cement’, to bind Jewry together in the task of establishing Eretz Yisrael by stealing the land of others and ethnically cleansing them. Labelling decent world opinion, repulsed by Israeli brutality, duplicity and arrogant assertion, as mere ‘Jew-hatred’ is contemptible, mendacious and simply wicked, but it works every time. As an unabashed admirer of decent Jews, of Einstein, the Menuhins, Oistrakh, Noam Chomsky, and, above all, Karl Marx and the other Marx Brothers, the accusation of ‘Jew-hatred’ is simply mirth-inducing. Even the Jews who act in frankly evil manner, in pursuit of the Zionist empire in Eretz Yisrael, I feel far more contempt for than hatred. I’d love to see many of them arraigned for their crimes against humanity, but most of all I’d love to see them just stop, cease desecrating international humanitarian law and finish with the child-murder. That’s my dearest wish. Here is an interesting take on zionism and Chomsky. PHISHNA http://www.therebel.org/opinion/race/the_center_of_the_matrix_2009091546054/ The Center of the Matrix How did this all start? Imagine a religion born of hate. Imagine that this hatred was so intense that it followed humanity through time and still is affecting the world today. Imagine that this hate was codified into religious law and became the basis of our reality today. That religion is Judaism, the most hateful memeplex every invented by the human mind. In a nutshell, Judaism is a tribal code of hate toward all other tribes, it is hate for that which is outside of itself. Hate is the result of one thing and only one thing: the loss of control either real or imagined. If you really think about what hate actually is, it is the perception of loss of control. The emotion of hatred is also based on fear, it is fear expressed. War is this mind fear expressed into the physical realm. The reason that the world is so preoccupied with war is that Jews dominate the mental planes. The Jew money machine and the wars waged to prop it up are second order results of the Jewish “spirit” of hate codified into law. Even the unconstitutional war in Iraq is “legal” under our current mindspell. We might have been taught that murder is immoral and against god’s commandments, but the truth is we love war because of our mindset. War is our anger expressed, so what is causing this anger, what is making us so angry and hateful that we are willing to spend our time waging war? Good question, to find the answer go find a happy person who was not taught the Bible. We can also say unequivocally that hate is the opposite of love. The emotion of hatred is the starting point of Judaism and the devil is in the details. Hatred toward an individual or hatred toward a rival tribe was later expressed as hatred toward rival nation states. Like any memeplex, Judaism keeps evolving toward more perfect hate, that’s why post Torah holy books like the Talmud and Protocols are more and more radical. Some say the Protocols are a forgery, but the truth about the Jews is how the Jews behave right now toward the Palestinians and how they treat America, exactly like the code in the Protocols. ate and fear share the same bed. If one fears and hates then obsession to control becomes a logical expression that emotion. As the tribe spread out across the planet they tried to control everything, the Jews more than any other group are control freaks. Thus Jews seek money and political power so as to control others because of their intense fear of persecution. But this leads to a self feedback loop of persecution of the would be controllers, who persecute those in the lands the Jews control. The rival population is then forced to deal with the Jewish occupiers by either expelling or killing them probably primarily in economic downturns. This phenomenon is happening again, every day thousands and thousands of more people want the Jews dead. Only a fool doesn’t see where this is going, the Jews are going to ratchet up control and the peoples of the world are going to react by exterminating the Jews. The Jewish holy books reflect the tribe’s emotions, because writing is a reflection of one’s spirit, Jewish writings reflect this fear and hate. The Jewish holy books are collection of vengeful memes to control and manipulated people outside of their tribe, that is, everyone who isn’t born a Jew. So as Judaism evolved, diabolical control of rival tribes became inevitable. That lead to the present moment where 4,000 years of Judaism is now controlling and destroying American liberty. Old time religion is making a comeback. Later still, the “terminator” religion Zionism arose out of the ashes of many self deceptions. The Jews refuse to see that they are the cause of their own suffering, that programmed hate leads to certain consequences, that denial is not the road to self healing. Zionism is the final “end times” insane expression of Jewish supremacism and hate. With Zionism, Judaism flowers into its logical conclusion, a fascist political movement that spreads death over the entire planet. So to blame only Zionism is really short sighted and foolish. Yet this is what so many commentators do, they limit the perception to Zionism or corporatism. Left wing gate keepers like Noam Chomsky blames corporations yet fails to connect that the corrupt American corporations are owned by Jews and that the policies are constructed in accordance to the Jews master plan of total domination. Chomsky describes the problem totally outside Jewish financial domination, as if you could separate the two…. Mulga Mumblebrain said on October 4th, 2009 at 4:48pm in the blog

A Story of Betrayal
by Uri Avnery / October 3rd, 2009

….As for ‘Jew-hatred’, this is invariably a smear, meant to silence and intimidate, emanating from a virulent Islamophobe of some type-you know the sort of creep who defends Israel’s brutish levelling of Gaza and the one hundred to one death-toll inflicted there, as a fully equipped modern military apparatus slaughtered defenceless civilioans. The Zionazi fundies, of course, welcome ‘Jew-hatred’ and do everything they can, through their thuggish arrogance, open contempt for the rest of humanity, and murderous brutality, to foster it. ‘Jew-hatred’ is useful cement, I think the Nazis talked of ‘blood-cement’, to bind Jewry together in the task of establishing Eretz Yisrael by stealing the land of others and ethnically cleansing them. Labelling decent world opinion, repulsed by Israeli brutality, duplicity and arrogant assertion, as mere ‘Jew-hatred’ is contemptible, mendacious and simply wicked, but it works every time. As an unabashed admirer of decent Jews, of Einstein, the Menuhins, Oistrakh, Noam Chomsky, and, above all, Karl Marx and the other Marx Brothers, the accusation of ‘Jew-hatred’ is simply mirth-inducing. Even the Jews who act in frankly evil manner, in pursuit of the Zionist empire in Eretz Yisrael, I feel far more contempt for than hatred. I’d love to see many of them arraigned for their crimes against humanity, but most of all I’d love to see them just stop, cease desecrating international humanitarian law and finish with the child-murder. That’s my dearest wish.

Here is an interesting take on zionism and Chomsky.

PHISHNA
http://www.therebel.org/opinion/race/the_center_of_the_matrix_2009091546054/
The Center of the Matrix
How did this all start?
Imagine a religion born of hate. Imagine that this hatred was so intense that it followed humanity through time and still is affecting the world today. Imagine that this hate was codified into religious law and became the basis of our reality today. That religion is Judaism, the most hateful memeplex every invented by the human mind.
In a nutshell, Judaism is a tribal code of hate toward all other tribes, it is hate for that which is outside of itself.
Hate is the result of one thing and only one thing: the loss of control either real or imagined. If you really think about what hate actually is, it is the perception of loss of control.

The emotion of hatred is also based on fear, it is fear expressed. War is this mind fear expressed into the physical realm. The reason that the world is so preoccupied with war is that Jews dominate the mental planes. The Jew money machine and the wars waged to prop it up are second order results of the Jewish “spirit” of hate codified into law. Even the unconstitutional war in Iraq is “legal” under our current mindspell.
We might have been taught that murder is immoral and against god’s commandments, but the truth is we love war because of our mindset. War is our anger expressed, so what is causing this anger, what is making us so angry and hateful that we are willing to spend our time waging war? Good question, to find the answer go find a happy person who was not taught the Bible.
We can also say unequivocally that hate is the opposite of love. The emotion of hatred is the starting point of Judaism and the devil is in the details.
Hatred toward an individual or hatred toward a rival tribe was later expressed as hatred toward rival nation states. Like any memeplex, Judaism keeps evolving toward more perfect hate, that’s why post Torah holy books like the Talmud and Protocols are more and more radical. Some say the Protocols are a forgery, but the truth about the Jews is how the Jews behave right now toward the Palestinians and how they treat America, exactly like the code in the Protocols.

ate and fear share the same bed. If one fears and hates then obsession to control becomes a logical expression that emotion. As the tribe spread out across the planet they tried to control everything, the Jews more than any other group are control freaks. Thus Jews seek money and political power so as to control others because of their intense fear of persecution. But this leads to a self feedback loop of persecution of the would be controllers, who persecute those in the lands the Jews control. The rival population is then forced to deal with the Jewish occupiers by either expelling or killing them probably primarily in economic downturns. This phenomenon is happening again, every day thousands and thousands of more people want the Jews dead. Only a fool doesn’t see where this is going, the Jews are going to ratchet up control and the peoples of the world are going to react by exterminating the Jews.
The Jewish holy books reflect the tribe’s emotions, because writing is a reflection of one’s spirit, Jewish writings reflect this fear and hate. The Jewish holy books are collection of vengeful memes to control and manipulated people outside of their tribe, that is, everyone who isn’t born a Jew. So as Judaism evolved, diabolical control of rival tribes became inevitable. That lead to the present moment where 4,000 years of Judaism is now controlling and destroying American liberty. Old time religion is making a comeback.

Later still, the “terminator” religion Zionism arose out of the ashes of many self deceptions. The Jews refuse to see that they are the cause of their own suffering, that programmed hate leads to certain consequences, that denial is not the road to self healing. Zionism is the final “end times” insane expression of Jewish supremacism and hate. With Zionism, Judaism flowers into its logical conclusion, a fascist political movement that spreads death over the entire planet.
So to blame only Zionism is really short sighted and foolish. Yet this is what so many commentators do, they limit the perception to Zionism or corporatism. Left wing gate keepers like Noam Chomsky blames corporations yet fails to connect that the corrupt American corporations are owned by Jews and that the policies are constructed in accordance to the Jews master plan of total domination. Chomsky describes the problem totally outside Jewish financial domination, as if you could separate the two….

]]> By: Mulga Mumblebrain http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/09/the-pathology-of-evil/#comment-56279 Mulga Mumblebrain Sat, 03 Oct 2009 23:43:20 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=10800#comment-56279 mary, you are absolutely in the right, but, alas, hoping for the evil vermin, the psychopathic human detritus, who run the West, the US in particular, but these days Europe just as wickedly, to do other than caper to the tunes played by their Judaic masters, is to wish for the impossible. Goldstone's report will be buried, as every one before. In this country the Rightwing media is doing what it always does-following orders from the Herrenvolk who control politics, the media and business, to the letter. The press sewer (apologies to real turds) is already full of vile attacks on the report, with diaboloical lies and vicious assertions contrary to every fact revealed not just by Goldstone, but also Israeli troops, the Red Cross, the NGOs, medical personnel etc. Israel and its bullying, controlling and audacious lobbies throughout the West, control our societies to an extent that is barely credible. Not one politician has dared raise a voice here either to condemn the original cowardly bloodbath in Gaza, or to support Goldtsone. In fact politicians as high as the Deputy PM, Gillard, leapt to Israel's defence at the time of the Gaza onslaught, mouthing, parrot-like, just those Zionazi untruths that any reader of the news reports would have known were vicious and impertinent lies. One federal politician dared to refuse to join in the 'celebration' of Israel's 60th anniversary of its birth in massacre and ethnic cleansing in 2008. Julia Irwin, who represented a Western Sydney seat with a large Islamic population, at times in her political career, defended the Palestinians. For this she was vilified by the Herrenvolk's local standover men, in the Rightwing media sewer, and by the dominant Rightwing Labor faction (a type of Mafia of legendary corruption)in NSW.When she recently announced her retirement, after the Right let it be known that they were going to ensure she did not get another pre-selection (the orders for which assassination no doubt came from the local Judaic Lobby, such 'generous political donors')she was attacked, in the nastiest, most cowardly and vituperative fashion, in an opinion piece in Murdoch's local flagship 'The Australian', a type of print FoxNews, with laughable pretensions, stamped on the mast-head, to be 'The Heart of the Nation'. While, personally, considering it more the 'fundamental orifice' of the nation, given its production of fundamentalist Rightwing shit, I sometimes fear that its ludicrously self-regarding self-description may, tragically, be true. mary, you are absolutely in the right, but, alas, hoping for the evil vermin, the psychopathic human detritus, who run the West, the US in particular, but these days Europe just as wickedly, to do other than caper to the tunes played by their Judaic masters, is to wish for the impossible. Goldstone’s report will be buried, as every one before. In this country the Rightwing media is doing what it always does-following orders from the Herrenvolk who control politics, the media and business, to the letter. The press sewer (apologies to real turds) is already full of vile attacks on the report, with diaboloical lies and vicious assertions contrary to every fact revealed not just by Goldstone, but also Israeli troops, the Red Cross, the NGOs, medical personnel etc. Israel and its bullying, controlling and audacious lobbies throughout the West, control our societies to an extent that is barely credible. Not one politician has dared raise a voice here either to condemn the original cowardly bloodbath in Gaza, or to support Goldtsone. In fact politicians as high as the Deputy PM, Gillard, leapt to Israel’s defence at the time of the Gaza onslaught, mouthing, parrot-like, just those Zionazi untruths that any reader of the news reports would have known were vicious and impertinent lies.
One federal politician dared to refuse to join in the ‘celebration’ of Israel’s 60th anniversary of its birth in massacre and ethnic cleansing in 2008. Julia Irwin, who represented a Western Sydney seat with a large Islamic population, at times in her political career, defended the Palestinians. For this she was vilified by the Herrenvolk’s local standover men, in the Rightwing media sewer, and by the dominant Rightwing Labor faction (a type of Mafia of legendary corruption)in NSW.When she recently announced her retirement, after the Right let it be known that they were going to ensure she did not get another pre-selection (the orders for which assassination no doubt came from the local Judaic Lobby, such ‘generous political donors’)she was attacked, in the nastiest, most cowardly and vituperative fashion, in an opinion piece in Murdoch’s local flagship ‘The Australian’, a type of print FoxNews, with laughable pretensions, stamped on the mast-head, to be ‘The Heart of the Nation’. While, personally, considering it more the ‘fundamental orifice’ of the nation, given its production of fundamentalist Rightwing shit, I sometimes fear that its ludicrously self-regarding self-description may, tragically, be true.

]]> By: mary http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/09/the-pathology-of-evil/#comment-56055 mary Thu, 01 Oct 2009 14:29:40 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=10800#comment-56055 Navi Pillay, who is the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights, refers to the Goldstone report and his own when writing on the vital importance of ending impunity in Israel and Palestine. When is Israel going to abide by decisions made by these international bodies and obey the law? Sep 30th, 2009 The Huffington Post – 30 Sept 2009 Yesterday, in Geneva, the United Nations Human Rights Council had a very important discussion about two reports it received on the situation in the Occupied Palestinian Territory: the report of the independent fact finding mission on the Gaza conflict, led by Justice Goldstone, and my own report, also requested by the Council, on human rights violations in the Occupied Palestinian Territory. These two reports complement other reports about Gaza, including those by 10 independent UN experts and several other investigations by both inter-governmental entities and NGOs such as Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch. Taken together, these reports present a comprehensive and remarkably consistent picture of what happened in Gaza. My own report notes that significant prima facie evidence indicated the commission of serious violations of international humanitarian law, as well as gross human rights violations, by both Israel and Hamas during the military operations that were carried out in Gaza from 27 December 2008 to 18 January 2009. This situation was exacerbated by the blockade that the population of Gaza endured in the months prior to these military operations. It has continued ever since, and is now entering its third year. As a result conditions on the ground continue to deteriorate. In particular, the Gaza population’s freedom of movement is denied. A wall runs along all land borders with Israel and Egypt. At sea, Israeli gunboats prevent Palestinian boats from sailing more than three nautical miles from the coastline. With very few exceptions, Gaza’s 1.5 million inhabitants are trapped. They cannot exit the 45 km-long Strip. ............................................ Funds to remedy the situation are available. However, the blockade is preventing the disbursement of the nearly five billion dollars pledged by donors at Sharm el Sheikh in March 2009 for recovery and reconstruction efforts in Gaza. The blockade, and its effect of collective punishment, must stop. Causing such hardships for the civilian population cannot possibly serve the interests of peace and security in the region. ................................................ I lend my full support to Justice Goldstone’s report and its recommendations. I fully agree with him that the prevailing impunity for human rights violations in the Middle East conflict must end. Such impunity encourages and helps perpetuate human rights abuses. Bringing perpetrators to account is not only necessary to ensure justice and protection to the affected populations, but also to enhance prospects of peace in the region. All parties to the conflict, as well as the international community, should extend full support and cooperation to accountability efforts. It is essential that the international community anchors its efforts to broker a durable political solution in international law, including the important 9 July 2004 advisory opinion of the International Court of Justice on the legality of the Wall being built by Israel. It should be clear by now that there can be no lasting peace without accountability for human rights violations and breaches of international humanitarian law. http://www.israeli-occupation.org/2009-09-30/navi-pillay-the-vital-importance-of-ending-impunity-in-israel-and-palestine/ Navi Pillay, who is the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights, refers to the Goldstone report and his own when writing on the vital importance of ending impunity in Israel and Palestine. When is Israel going to abide by decisions made by these international bodies and obey the law?

Sep 30th, 2009 The Huffington Post – 30 Sept 2009

Yesterday, in Geneva, the United Nations Human Rights Council had a very important discussion about two reports it received on the situation in the Occupied Palestinian Territory: the report of the independent fact finding mission on the Gaza conflict, led by Justice Goldstone, and my own report, also requested by the Council, on human rights violations in the Occupied Palestinian Territory.

These two reports complement other reports about Gaza, including those by 10 independent UN experts and several other investigations by both inter-governmental entities and NGOs such as Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch. Taken together, these reports present a comprehensive and remarkably consistent picture of what happened in Gaza.

My own report notes that significant prima facie evidence indicated the commission of serious violations of international humanitarian law, as well as gross human rights violations, by both Israel and Hamas during the military operations that were carried out in Gaza from 27 December 2008 to 18 January 2009.

This situation was exacerbated by the blockade that the population of Gaza endured in the months prior to these military operations. It has continued ever since, and is now entering its third year. As a result conditions on the ground continue to deteriorate.

In particular, the Gaza population’s freedom of movement is denied. A wall runs along all land borders with Israel and Egypt. At sea, Israeli gunboats prevent Palestinian boats from sailing more than three nautical miles from the coastline. With very few exceptions, Gaza’s 1.5 million inhabitants are trapped. They cannot exit the 45 km-long Strip.
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Funds to remedy the situation are available. However, the blockade is preventing the disbursement of the nearly five billion dollars pledged by donors at Sharm el Sheikh in March 2009 for recovery and reconstruction efforts in Gaza.

The blockade, and its effect of collective punishment, must stop. Causing such hardships for the civilian population cannot possibly serve the interests of peace and security in the region.
…………………………………………
I lend my full support to Justice Goldstone’s report and its recommendations. I fully agree with him that the prevailing impunity for human rights violations in the Middle East conflict must end.

Such impunity encourages and helps perpetuate human rights abuses. Bringing perpetrators to account is not only necessary to ensure justice and protection to the affected populations, but also to enhance prospects of peace in the region. All parties to the conflict, as well as the international community, should extend full support and cooperation to accountability efforts.

It is essential that the international community anchors its efforts to broker a durable political solution in international law, including the important 9 July 2004 advisory opinion of the International Court of Justice on the legality of the Wall being built by Israel.

It should be clear by now that there can be no lasting peace without accountability for human rights violations and breaches of international humanitarian law.

http://www.israeli-occupation.org/2009-09-30/navi-pillay-the-vital-importance-of-ending-impunity-in-israel-and-palestine/

]]> By: brian http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/09/the-pathology-of-evil/#comment-56036 brian Thu, 01 Oct 2009 08:43:32 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=10800#comment-56036 palestinian haters are also antisemites, deceschi... palestinian haters are also antisemites, deceschi…

]]> By: Mulga Mumblebrain http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/09/the-pathology-of-evil/#comment-56012 Mulga Mumblebrain Thu, 01 Oct 2009 03:11:46 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=10800#comment-56012 I'm sorry, decrepsi. I forgot to mention that, although not consumed by rage at the activities of apologists for child murder like you and the other golems, I am rather agitated by it, as all decent human beings are or ought to be. I’m sorry, decrepsi. I forgot to mention that, although not consumed by rage at the activities of apologists for child murder like you and the other golems, I am rather agitated by it, as all decent human beings are or ought to be.

]]> By: Mulga Mumblebrain http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/09/the-pathology-of-evil/#comment-56010 Mulga Mumblebrain Thu, 01 Oct 2009 03:09:30 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=10800#comment-56010 Gosh, decrepsi, no arguments, so just a whinge. I assumed your name was a nomme de folie, so I adjusted it to fit the decrepitude of your exculpations of, and excuses for, child murderers. My name, of course, is as God gave it to me, so fiddle with it at your peril. Gosh, decrepsi, no arguments, so just a whinge. I assumed your name was a nomme de folie, so I adjusted it to fit the decrepitude of your exculpations of, and excuses for, child murderers. My name, of course, is as God gave it to me, so fiddle with it at your peril.

]]> By: B99 http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/09/the-pathology-of-evil/#comment-55998 B99 Thu, 01 Oct 2009 01:27:43 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=10800#comment-55998 Rachel - Old people don't know where it is either. No matter, doesn't mean they aren't under Israeli occupation. This - the UN knows. Rachel – Old people don’t know where it is either. No matter, doesn’t mean they aren’t under Israeli occupation. This – the UN knows.

]]> By: lichen http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/09/the-pathology-of-evil/#comment-55994 lichen Thu, 01 Oct 2009 00:55:40 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=10800#comment-55994 Old people who know where gaza is are the ones setting the policy and allowing Israel to murder and broadcasting pro-Israeli news, so actually I will forgive young people for not needlessly studying maps or not coincidentally happening to have brains which are set up to easily memorize a world map. Old people who know where gaza is are the ones setting the policy and allowing Israel to murder and broadcasting pro-Israeli news, so actually I will forgive young people for not needlessly studying maps or not coincidentally happening to have brains which are set up to easily memorize a world map.

]]> By: Rachel Golem http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/09/the-pathology-of-evil/#comment-55990 Rachel Golem Thu, 01 Oct 2009 00:19:25 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=10800#comment-55990 You just don't get it. Young people in America don't know where Gaza is because they don't care, and never will!!!! You just don’t get it.

Young people in America don’t know where Gaza is because they don’t care, and never will!!!!

]]> By: B99 http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/09/the-pathology-of-evil/#comment-55989 B99 Wed, 30 Sep 2009 23:50:41 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=10800#comment-55989 How the Jews stole Palestine. (or 'Ethnic Cleansing 101) In the words of Yigal Allon, 'hero of "Israeli War of Independence."' He says, "we need to clean the inner Galilee" (of Arabs, of course). Yigal asked Jewish *friends of the Arabs* to tell them "to escape while there is still time.... The tactic reached its goal completely.... The wide areas were cleaned." How the Jews stole Palestine. (or ‘Ethnic Cleansing 101)
In the words of Yigal Allon, ‘hero of “Israeli War of Independence.”‘ He says, “we need to clean the inner Galilee” (of Arabs, of course). Yigal asked Jewish *friends of the Arabs* to tell them “to escape while there is still time…. The tactic reached its goal completely…. The wide areas were cleaned.”

]]> By: B99 http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/09/the-pathology-of-evil/#comment-55988 B99 Wed, 30 Sep 2009 23:49:23 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=10800#comment-55988 How the Jews stole Palestine. The Jewish genocide plan was known as Plan Dalet, the fourth of such elimination plans. Many Palestinians in Haifa were literally driven into the sea where they drowned, others driven into the desert, where they perished as well. How the Jews stole Palestine.
The Jewish genocide plan was known as Plan Dalet, the fourth of such elimination plans. Many Palestinians in Haifa were literally driven into the sea where they drowned, others driven into the desert, where they perished as well.

]]> By: deceschi http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/09/the-pathology-of-evil/#comment-55979 deceschi Wed, 30 Sep 2009 22:09:11 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=10800#comment-55979 Why do anti-Zionists and anti-Semites (read 'Jew-haters') like mulga and others of his ilk deface other user names? Is it simply typos or what else? Maybe visceral deep-seated hatred? Don't they know the saying "You are consumed with rage"? A good Semi-otic question for m@ry. Why do anti-Zionists and anti-Semites (read ‘Jew-haters’) like mulga and others of his ilk deface other user names?

Is it simply typos or what else? Maybe visceral deep-seated hatred?

Don’t they know the saying “You are consumed with rage”?

A good Semi-otic question for m@ry.

]]> By: B99 http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/09/the-pathology-of-evil/#comment-55975 B99 Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:28:17 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=10800#comment-55975 No no no onus. The Palestinians are the Canaanites, Phoenicians, Philistines, etc. They have ALWAYS lived there, at least as long as identifiably modern populations have done so. They founded Jerusalem, among other cities - the Hebrews arrived thousands of years later. It was the Palestinians (called Phoenicians then) who built the Hebrews First Temple for them (the Hebrews being goat and sheep herders). So your alleged invasion of 648 (when some of the still remaining Jews converted to Islam) has nothing to do with the Palestinians per se - it was instead the arrival of a religion that people acculturated to. As for the religion part - don't we all know that this is just gibberish? Are there still people out there who believe these things actually happened - that there was an Abraham, Isaac, Adam, Jacob, Leah, Sarah and Rebecca? Those are fairy-tale people. And no Palestinian student is taught such fairy-tales. No no no onus. The Palestinians are the Canaanites, Phoenicians, Philistines, etc. They have ALWAYS lived there, at least as long as identifiably modern populations have done so. They founded Jerusalem, among other cities – the Hebrews arrived thousands of years later. It was the Palestinians (called Phoenicians then) who built the Hebrews First Temple for them (the Hebrews being goat and sheep herders). So your alleged invasion of 648 (when some of the still remaining Jews converted to Islam) has nothing to do with the Palestinians per se – it was instead the arrival of a religion that people acculturated to.

As for the religion part – don’t we all know that this is just gibberish? Are there still people out there who believe these things actually happened – that there was an Abraham, Isaac, Adam, Jacob, Leah, Sarah and Rebecca? Those are fairy-tale people. And no Palestinian student is taught such fairy-tales.

]]> By: Mulga Mumblebrain http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/09/the-pathology-of-evil/#comment-55971 Mulga Mumblebrain Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:05:34 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=10800#comment-55971 You have your answer, b99. For Onanism de Giardia, our new and truly pathological golem, the hatred of Palestinians that justifies the child-murder by white phosphorus in the here and now, is rooted in long lost history, contemplated with exquisite selectivity. Onanism rants with real hatred concerning the theft of 'Israel' by 'The Palestinians' (funny how other hate-filled Zionazis screech that there are no Palestinians. Onanism had better look out or it will be labelled a 'self-hating Jew')but apparently has no problem with the, admittedly mythical, conquest of Canaan by the Jews and the associated massacres. You see, if you go in for this sort of faery story, the 'Holy Torah' is a compendium of massacre and genocide, absolutely insisted on by Onanism's 'God'. But I guess when it is the Jews doing the massacring then Onanism gets all enthusiastic. Of course Onanism being a typical Judeofascist sees Judaic claims to all of Eretz Yisrael (from the Nile to the Euphrates, remember) as trumping the claims of everyone else. In this case the use of 'everyone else' is misleading, as the Judaic supremacists, amongst whom I am sure Onanism sees itself, see the entire non-Judaic world, all several billion of us, as inferior. While Palestine has been inhabited for tens of thousands of years, only the claim of the Chosen Herrenvolk holds any substance. That these Chosen People chose themselves, from amongst the other inhabitants of the region, some time in the second millenium BCE, and that the stay in Egypt, the Exodus, Moses etc are all faery stories, makes no difference. We are dealing with religious fundamentalism as dire as any on earth but the one that totally controls the West through its money-power. That the Palestinians, the millennia long inhabitants, are the result of the mingling of various peoples over the centuries, including the Jews who remained after the Roman expulsion, and invaders from the region (now joined by invaders from Brooklyn and Golders Green) makes no sense to the Zionazis. This land belongs to the Jews alone, and 'redeeming the land' (from the Nile to the Euphrates) only involves a re-run of the Book of Joshua. A couple of massacres, like Deir Yassin, Qibya, Sabra and Shatilla, all sanctified by God's injunctions, and 'the Palestinians' will melt away like the Moabites, Midianites, Jebusites etc. What Onanism and the other golems show is that Zionazism is rooted in pure hatred of the Palestinians, Arabs and Moslems. If we wonder why a so-called 'civilised' power can massacre hundreds of children in cold blood, or kill a mother and her two children for turning right instead of left, and yet screech their 'moral purity' at the world and vilify, defame and intimidate all who dare object, you need only look to hate-filled tracts like this to see the perverted pathopsychological motivation. That these psychotics are armed with hundreds, at least, thermo-nuclear weapons, and refuse to even admit it, let alone join the NPT or contemplate de-nuclearisation, ought to give us all pause for deep thought. You have your answer, b99. For Onanism de Giardia, our new and truly pathological golem, the hatred of Palestinians that justifies the child-murder by white phosphorus in the here and now, is rooted in long lost history, contemplated with exquisite selectivity. Onanism rants with real hatred concerning the theft of ‘Israel’ by ‘The Palestinians’ (funny how other hate-filled Zionazis screech that there are no Palestinians. Onanism had better look out or it will be labelled a ‘self-hating Jew’)but apparently has no problem with the, admittedly mythical, conquest of Canaan by the Jews and the associated massacres. You see, if you go in for this sort of faery story, the ‘Holy Torah’ is a compendium of massacre and genocide, absolutely insisted on by Onanism’s ‘God’. But I guess when it is the Jews doing the massacring then Onanism gets all enthusiastic.
Of course Onanism being a typical Judeofascist sees Judaic claims to all of Eretz Yisrael (from the Nile to the Euphrates, remember) as trumping the claims of everyone else. In this case the use of ‘everyone else’ is misleading, as the Judaic supremacists, amongst whom I am sure Onanism sees itself, see the entire non-Judaic world, all several billion of us, as inferior. While Palestine has been inhabited for tens of thousands of years, only the claim of the Chosen Herrenvolk holds any substance. That these Chosen People chose themselves, from amongst the other inhabitants of the region, some time in the second millenium BCE, and that the stay in Egypt, the Exodus, Moses etc are all faery stories, makes no difference. We are dealing with religious fundamentalism as dire as any on earth but the one that totally controls the West through its money-power.
That the Palestinians, the millennia long inhabitants, are the result of the mingling of various peoples over the centuries, including the Jews who remained after the Roman expulsion, and invaders from the region (now joined by invaders from Brooklyn and Golders Green) makes no sense to the Zionazis. This land belongs to the Jews alone, and ‘redeeming the land’ (from the Nile to the Euphrates) only involves a re-run of the Book of Joshua. A couple of massacres, like Deir Yassin, Qibya, Sabra and Shatilla, all sanctified by God’s injunctions, and ‘the Palestinians’ will melt away like the Moabites, Midianites, Jebusites etc.
What Onanism and the other golems show is that Zionazism is rooted in pure hatred of the Palestinians, Arabs and Moslems. If we wonder why a so-called ‘civilised’ power can massacre hundreds of children in cold blood, or kill a mother and her two children for turning right instead of left, and yet screech their ‘moral purity’ at the world and vilify, defame and intimidate all who dare object, you need only look to hate-filled tracts like this to see the perverted pathopsychological motivation. That these psychotics are armed with hundreds, at least, thermo-nuclear weapons, and refuse to even admit it, let alone join the NPT or contemplate de-nuclearisation, ought to give us all pause for deep thought.

]]> By: onesime de girardin http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/09/the-pathology-of-evil/#comment-55960 onesime de girardin Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:25:36 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=10800#comment-55960 In reply to the question of b99, as to what or whom the Palestinians have robbed, the answer is that they invaded Israel in 638 A.D. and ethnically cleansed the country of its Jews. They stole the Mountain of the Jewish Temple and there erected a Rock Dome over the Jewish rock of Isaac the Jew's sacrifice. they then proceeded to steal the graves of the Jewish Patriarchs in Hevron where The Jews Abraham, Isaac, Adam, Jacob, Leah, Sarah and Rebecca are buried. Then , 10 years later, they stole Joseph's gravesite in Nablus and systematically erased every Jewish village and town name and invented Arabic names for them. Finally, the indigenous Jews whom the Palestinians did not massacre had their human rights stolen by being enslaved as dhimmis, human dogs that were used by the Palestinians to spit on. It is shocking that you and your comrades display such colossal ignorance about the history of Israel and how it was stolen by the Palestinians. All the information I have given you is contained in the Hadith of the Caliph Omar and his companions and available in the official Palestinian high school text book used by the Palestinian authority in Ramallah. In reply to the question of b99, as to what or whom the Palestinians have robbed, the answer is that they invaded Israel in 638 A.D. and ethnically cleansed the country of its Jews. They stole the Mountain of the Jewish Temple and there erected a Rock Dome over the Jewish rock of Isaac the Jew’s sacrifice. they then proceeded to steal the graves of the Jewish Patriarchs in Hevron where The Jews Abraham, Isaac, Adam, Jacob, Leah, Sarah and Rebecca are buried. Then , 10 years later, they stole Joseph’s gravesite in Nablus and systematically erased every Jewish village and town name and invented Arabic names for them. Finally, the indigenous Jews whom the Palestinians did not massacre had their human rights stolen by being enslaved as dhimmis, human dogs that were used by the Palestinians to spit on. It is shocking that you and your comrades display such colossal ignorance about the history of Israel and how it was stolen by the Palestinians. All the information I have given you is contained in the Hadith of the Caliph Omar and his companions and available in the official Palestinian high school text book used by the Palestinian authority in Ramallah.

]]> By: b99 http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/09/the-pathology-of-evil/#comment-55957 b99 Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:11:42 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=10800#comment-55957 onesime - Just what or whom have the Palestinians robbed? onesime – Just what or whom have the Palestinians robbed?

]]> By: bozhidar balkas vancouver http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/09/the-pathology-of-evil/#comment-55956 bozhidar balkas vancouver Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:07:04 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=10800#comment-55956 dan e, of a-necessary-truth principle, langauge must suffice; i.e., be an adequate tool for learning and adaptation for survival. And to me it is! I find great pleasure in using it. However, language cannot tell nor even imply which statement represents a lie and which represents the truth. Nor can one predict the future by either language or feelings. Nature had not developed the language to that degree as of yet. And it may never. But that`s all we have. It just has to do! And nature is not that evil, or is it?, to give us a defective tool to work with. But to use language properly, honesty, calm, time, some instruction how to use it, and not to rely on one`s feelings in an apsolute way, appears as sine qua non for enjoying language as much as music. Too many people rely on their feelings- it can be proven that they are not always reliable guide in reality- with apsolute certainty. EG, a person feels that a god exists; ergo, he knows or says he knows that his god exists. Hitler probably relied on his feelings in an apsolute way when he waged wars or wanted to kill all or most `jews` and romas and some slavs. US is now waging wars solely because it hates; appears greedy. Yet there is no single caustive factor for wars against iraq, afpak, or palestine. tnx for your comment. dan e,
of a-necessary-truth principle, langauge must suffice; i.e., be an adequate tool for learning and adaptation for survival.
And to me it is! I find great pleasure in using it. However, language cannot tell nor even imply which statement represents a lie and which represents the truth.
Nor can one predict the future by either language or feelings.
Nature had not developed the language to that degree as of yet. And it may never.
But that`s all we have. It just has to do! And nature is not that evil, or is it?, to give us a defective tool to work with.
But to use language properly, honesty, calm, time, some instruction how to use it, and not to rely on one`s feelings in an apsolute way, appears as sine qua non for enjoying language as much as music.

Too many people rely on their feelings- it can be proven that they are not always reliable guide in reality- with apsolute certainty. EG, a person feels that a god exists; ergo, he knows or says he knows that his god exists.

Hitler probably relied on his feelings in an apsolute way when he waged wars or wanted to kill all or most `jews` and romas and some slavs. US is now waging wars solely because it hates; appears greedy.
Yet there is no single caustive factor for wars against iraq, afpak, or palestine. tnx for your comment.

]]> By: dan e http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/09/the-pathology-of-evil/#comment-55948 dan e Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:12:08 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=10800#comment-55948 a comment on Bozh's notion that "Jews" are just like everybody else. Language structures the way you perceive the world, and places limits on how you can think about it. Religious and cultural indoctrination further shapes one's perception, highlighting some possibilities and concealing others. For instance North Americans have a tendency to see things like a game of American football described using military-style nomenclature. Persons of Hispanic background see the Bullfight metaphor at play where Yanquis would focus on football or some other aspect. Atzmon has written extensively on the peculiarities of Israeli psychology. I would urge persons interested in understanding why Israelis behave as they do to check out Atzmon's take. a comment on Bozh’s notion that “Jews” are just like everybody else.

Language structures the way you perceive the world, and places limits on how you can think about it. Religious and cultural indoctrination further shapes one’s perception, highlighting some possibilities and concealing others.

For instance North Americans have a tendency to see things like a game of American football described using military-style nomenclature. Persons of Hispanic background see the Bullfight metaphor at play where Yanquis would focus on football or some other aspect.
Atzmon has written extensively on the peculiarities of Israeli psychology. I would urge persons interested in understanding why Israelis behave as they do to check out Atzmon’s take.

]]> By: dan e http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/09/the-pathology-of-evil/#comment-55946 dan e Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:50:53 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=10800#comment-55946 DV would be more relevant if less space and energy was devoted to rebutting the nonsense postings of "cedeschi", "mebosa retchie" et al. If discussions were confined to the parameters discernable from the range of opinions expressed in the articles selected for posting by the DV editors it might be possible to clarify some of the points of difference between DV readers who are agreed on most key issues but squabble fiercely over certain questions. One thing that comes to attn today, with the announcement of the Sat March 20 2010 March in DC is the leadership role of the ANSWER Coalition. ANSWER, including its Palestinian-American members, insists on the infallibility of the "Becker Formula" according to which the State of Israel is simply a US puppet serving the interests of "the bosses" of US Imperialism, and all the "wag the dog" theorists like Blankfort, Walt/Mearsheimer, Petras, Christisons et al are just being silly, since "Jews don't have that kind of power". DV would be more relevant if less space and energy was devoted to rebutting the nonsense postings of “cedeschi”, “mebosa retchie” et al. If discussions were confined to the parameters discernable from the range of opinions expressed in the articles selected for posting by the DV editors it might be possible to clarify some of the points of difference between DV readers who are agreed on most key issues but squabble fiercely over certain questions.
One thing that comes to attn today, with the announcement of the Sat March 20 2010 March in DC is the leadership role of the ANSWER Coalition. ANSWER, including its Palestinian-American members, insists on the infallibility of the “Becker Formula” according to which the State of Israel is simply a US puppet serving the interests of “the bosses” of US Imperialism, and all the “wag the dog” theorists like Blankfort, Walt/Mearsheimer, Petras, Christisons et al are just being silly, since “Jews don’t have that kind of power”.

]]> By: bozhidar balkas vancouver http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/09/the-pathology-of-evil/#comment-55938 bozhidar balkas vancouver Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:31:35 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=10800#comment-55938 atzmon needs to cast a much wider look. Only the widest look wld offer an elucidation at different times. First of all, the melange of peoples that most people call ``jews`` , do not differ in basic behavior from any other people or a melting pot of people. The khazaro-europeans, i call multos, as well as every other people or melting pot of peoples appear not as an exception nor what they do exceptional. Give pashtuns, azeris, pal`ns, georgians, tibetans, et al the strength and support that israel gets and most likely they would use the support and armaments they receive from their abettors in the same or similar way as do israelis. Altho there are lotsof cultists in israel, the masters appear there to be mostly noncultists. Israel`s abettors are very, methinks, aware how perilous talmudic cultists can be. In US and europe, extreme cultists are not allowed to govern. Plutocrats rule them just like they rule almost everywhere else. And the OLD plutocrats appear still OLD plutocrats. They kill, rob, lie, oppress; that`s the way to money and power. Basically, nothing has been changed. New tools, weapons, discoveries come and go but basics do not yet! tnx atzmon needs to cast a much wider look. Only the widest look wld offer an elucidation at different times.
First of all, the melange of peoples that most people call “jews“ , do not differ in basic behavior from any other people or a melting pot of people.

The khazaro-europeans, i call multos, as well as every other people or melting pot of peoples appear not as an exception nor what they do exceptional.

Give pashtuns, azeris, pal`ns, georgians, tibetans, et al the strength and support that israel gets and most likely they would use the support and armaments they receive from their abettors in the same or similar way as do israelis.
Altho there are lotsof cultists in israel, the masters appear there to be mostly noncultists. Israel`s abettors are very, methinks, aware how perilous talmudic cultists can be.

In US and europe, extreme cultists are not allowed to govern. Plutocrats rule them just like they rule almost everywhere else.
And the OLD plutocrats appear still OLD plutocrats. They kill, rob, lie, oppress; that`s the way to money and power.
Basically, nothing has been changed. New tools, weapons, discoveries come and go but basics do not yet!
tnx

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