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		<title>By: Brambles</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/09/obama-administration-moves-to-keep-terror-watch-list-data-strictly-hush-hush/#comment-56229</link>
		<dc:creator>Brambles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 06:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s real easy to say just wait it out if you&#039;re not being tortured 24/7 by a huge gang of operatives, police protected, armed with the green laser dazer that makes you vomit if it hits your eyes.

You could say it&#039;s a matter of privacy, but what they&#039;re not telling you is they are sneaking in your home while you&#039;re alseep and maiming you to further degrade. I&#039;d say that&#039;s definitely invading my privacy, and that&#039;s a crime, but the police are they helping them do it.

Although, you have done nothing to deserve such horrific treatment / torture that is what being on a watchlist is. You&#039;re beat up, poisoned, robbed, chased, lied about for no reason, and that&#039;s the big secret. These people and the terror system of non- or revrese law enforcement is nothing but a bunch of democracy killers. I&#039;m a 50 year old woman and I&#039;ve got people shooting those puke lazers at me 24/7. This whole thing is a load of criminal BS. It&#039;s illegal, all of it, and it&#039;s time the secret gets out. It&#039;s a war between the people, and some of them are incredibly mean.  Gang Stalking, lynch mobbing, hate crimes, that&#039;s all it is, it&#039;s absurd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s real easy to say just wait it out if you&#8217;re not being tortured 24/7 by a huge gang of operatives, police protected, armed with the green laser dazer that makes you vomit if it hits your eyes.</p>
<p>You could say it&#8217;s a matter of privacy, but what they&#8217;re not telling you is they are sneaking in your home while you&#8217;re alseep and maiming you to further degrade. I&#8217;d say that&#8217;s definitely invading my privacy, and that&#8217;s a crime, but the police are they helping them do it.</p>
<p>Although, you have done nothing to deserve such horrific treatment / torture that is what being on a watchlist is. You&#8217;re beat up, poisoned, robbed, chased, lied about for no reason, and that&#8217;s the big secret. These people and the terror system of non- or revrese law enforcement is nothing but a bunch of democracy killers. I&#8217;m a 50 year old woman and I&#8217;ve got people shooting those puke lazers at me 24/7. This whole thing is a load of criminal BS. It&#8217;s illegal, all of it, and it&#8217;s time the secret gets out. It&#8217;s a war between the people, and some of them are incredibly mean.  Gang Stalking, lynch mobbing, hate crimes, that&#8217;s all it is, it&#8217;s absurd.</p>
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		<title>By: gangstalking</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/09/obama-administration-moves-to-keep-terror-watch-list-data-strictly-hush-hush/#comment-54475</link>
		<dc:creator>gangstalking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 00:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am wondering if the author has ever written any articles on the subject matter of Gang Stalking?

http://www.gangstalkingworld.com/

[quote]Gang Stalking is a systemic form of control, which seeks to destroy every aspect of a Targeted Individuals life. A covert investigation is opened and the target is followed around 24/7 by Civilian Spies/Snitches. Overt and covert methods are used as part of the surveillance process.

The Informants can be parts of these community oriented policing programs, but often they are just average citizens. Just like with Cointelpro investigations, everyone in the targets life is contacted and asked to be a part of the ongoing, never ending monitoring (systemic harassment), which is designed to destroy the target over years and leave them with no form of support.   [/quote]

These types of investigations have been ongoing for years, it&#039;s part of the states control apparatus, and I think it might always be, if this system is not exposed. 

Many were hoping that these surveillance practices would change for the better. 

The ACLU has done a great job exposing the fusion centers, and the article Mass-Con-fusion touched on these types of investigations.

http://blog.aclu.org/2009/04/30/mass-con-fusion/#more-5320
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&quot;You mean to tell me that it is legal for corporations from the private sector to team up with local law enforcement officials in efforts to spy on innocent members of our society? You also mean to tell me that the synthesis of law enforcement authority and the drive of for-profit companies operate under little to no guidelines or restrictions and it is unclear to whom they are responsible to?&quot; 
[/quote]

I hope if you have not written about the topic, you will consider helping to raise awareness about this issue, by becoming aware.

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am wondering if the author has ever written any articles on the subject matter of Gang Stalking?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.gangstalkingworld.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.gangstalkingworld.com/</a></p>
<p>[quote]Gang Stalking is a systemic form of control, which seeks to destroy every aspect of a Targeted Individuals life. A covert investigation is opened and the target is followed around 24/7 by Civilian Spies/Snitches. Overt and covert methods are used as part of the surveillance process.</p>
<p>The Informants can be parts of these community oriented policing programs, but often they are just average citizens. Just like with Cointelpro investigations, everyone in the targets life is contacted and asked to be a part of the ongoing, never ending monitoring (systemic harassment), which is designed to destroy the target over years and leave them with no form of support.   [/quote]</p>
<p>These types of investigations have been ongoing for years, it&#8217;s part of the states control apparatus, and I think it might always be, if this system is not exposed. </p>
<p>Many were hoping that these surveillance practices would change for the better. </p>
<p>The ACLU has done a great job exposing the fusion centers, and the article Mass-Con-fusion touched on these types of investigations.</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.aclu.org/2009/04/30/mass-con-fusion/#more-5320" rel="nofollow">http://blog.aclu.org/2009/04/30/mass-con-fusion/#more-5320</a><br />
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&#8220;You mean to tell me that it is legal for corporations from the private sector to team up with local law enforcement officials in efforts to spy on innocent members of our society? You also mean to tell me that the synthesis of law enforcement authority and the drive of for-profit companies operate under little to no guidelines or restrictions and it is unclear to whom they are responsible to?&#8221;<br />
[/quote]</p>
<p>I hope if you have not written about the topic, you will consider helping to raise awareness about this issue, by becoming aware.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Cor</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/09/obama-administration-moves-to-keep-terror-watch-list-data-strictly-hush-hush/#comment-54437</link>
		<dc:creator>Cor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 19:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a difference between the terror watch list and the do not fly list.  It makes sense for the government to have a &quot;secret&quot; terror watch list, so long as the civil liberties of those on that list are not impinged.   Reveling the names on the watch list could disrupt ongoing investigations, and pose a threat to our collective security.

The ACLU is vitally important to protecting our civil liberties and we need them now more then ever.  The government does need to be kept in check.  But releasing the names on the watch list could be seriously disruptive to efforts to track terrorist activities.  Perhaps an independent non-law enforcement panel should be set up to monitor the process and insure that it is not being abused.

The do not fly list however is different and people should be able to know whose on it, and there should be a streamlined process for removing the names of the innocent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a difference between the terror watch list and the do not fly list.  It makes sense for the government to have a &#8220;secret&#8221; terror watch list, so long as the civil liberties of those on that list are not impinged.   Reveling the names on the watch list could disrupt ongoing investigations, and pose a threat to our collective security.</p>
<p>The ACLU is vitally important to protecting our civil liberties and we need them now more then ever.  The government does need to be kept in check.  But releasing the names on the watch list could be seriously disruptive to efforts to track terrorist activities.  Perhaps an independent non-law enforcement panel should be set up to monitor the process and insure that it is not being abused.</p>
<p>The do not fly list however is different and people should be able to know whose on it, and there should be a streamlined process for removing the names of the innocent.</p>
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		<title>By: Annie Ladysmith</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/09/obama-administration-moves-to-keep-terror-watch-list-data-strictly-hush-hush/#comment-54413</link>
		<dc:creator>Annie Ladysmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 15:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All people have to do, at this sorry point in our Republic&#039; history, is to speak out in any way against these Draconian &quot;Terrorist&quot; guidelines and they will surely be put on the watch list.  It is growing so vast that soon everyone in America, except for the Reptiles on the green list, will be on this list.  I guess this is why the US  gov.  needs a foreign army of 2 million Chinese and other foreigners to capture and &quot;process&quot; all of us &quot;terrorists&quot;.

O! what to do?  what to do?  
1)  You can join their system and become green, no problem for you.
2)  You may be disruptive by writing opposing opinions in blogs and even come out on protest marches.  You are now red, and that could be a problem for you.
3)  You may be a leader in exposing their lies and deceit and encouraging others protest groups and writing or speaking openly about them, you will be on the black list.  Not so good for you.
4)  Or you can sit on the fence and decide to wait it out to see your fellow citizens prevail to keep their lives, never mind their liberty or health plan.  You are a blue.

The reds and blacks don&#039;t come back.  The blues are re-educatable.
The greens are willing accomplices and will kiss-ass to the slave-traders.   If martial law is instated they will come for the people on the red and black.

Does this all sound crazy?  Why has Martial law been created in the first place, so they will not use such a plan?  No, it has been forced down our throats so that they can exercise complete control over us.  Having now this most awesome power, will they not use it?

Rumor has it that the blacks, those trouble-makers, will  be taken from there homes early in the morning before Martial law is declared.  Two weeks later Martial will be forced upon us by ruse of an epidemic (swine flu?) or, another micro-nuke bomb going off in a major city/ies, by the &quot;Terrorists&quot;,of course.  The reds will then be rounded up and go to FEMA camps.  The blues will be re-educated, perhaps in their homes by the terror they are witnessing around them.  

More fun times on planet Earth, remember, tyranny is always the default to human governments.  Please don&#039;t challenge what i have written.  It is rumor and i will not defend any of it.  It is just a possible scenerio to perhaps ponder on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All people have to do, at this sorry point in our Republic&#8217; history, is to speak out in any way against these Draconian &#8220;Terrorist&#8221; guidelines and they will surely be put on the watch list.  It is growing so vast that soon everyone in America, except for the Reptiles on the green list, will be on this list.  I guess this is why the US  gov.  needs a foreign army of 2 million Chinese and other foreigners to capture and &#8220;process&#8221; all of us &#8220;terrorists&#8221;.</p>
<p>O! what to do?  what to do?<br />
1)  You can join their system and become green, no problem for you.<br />
2)  You may be disruptive by writing opposing opinions in blogs and even come out on protest marches.  You are now red, and that could be a problem for you.<br />
3)  You may be a leader in exposing their lies and deceit and encouraging others protest groups and writing or speaking openly about them, you will be on the black list.  Not so good for you.<br />
4)  Or you can sit on the fence and decide to wait it out to see your fellow citizens prevail to keep their lives, never mind their liberty or health plan.  You are a blue.</p>
<p>The reds and blacks don&#8217;t come back.  The blues are re-educatable.<br />
The greens are willing accomplices and will kiss-ass to the slave-traders.   If martial law is instated they will come for the people on the red and black.</p>
<p>Does this all sound crazy?  Why has Martial law been created in the first place, so they will not use such a plan?  No, it has been forced down our throats so that they can exercise complete control over us.  Having now this most awesome power, will they not use it?</p>
<p>Rumor has it that the blacks, those trouble-makers, will  be taken from there homes early in the morning before Martial law is declared.  Two weeks later Martial will be forced upon us by ruse of an epidemic (swine flu?) or, another micro-nuke bomb going off in a major city/ies, by the &#8220;Terrorists&#8221;,of course.  The reds will then be rounded up and go to FEMA camps.  The blues will be re-educated, perhaps in their homes by the terror they are witnessing around them.  </p>
<p>More fun times on planet Earth, remember, tyranny is always the default to human governments.  Please don&#8217;t challenge what i have written.  It is rumor and i will not defend any of it.  It is just a possible scenerio to perhaps ponder on.</p>
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		<title>By: mjosef</title>
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		<dc:creator>mjosef</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 11:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like the supersystem is in damn control again.
What to do, what to do.
In the grand spirit of the reigning profit motive, how about
 &quot;No-Fly Airlines&quot;?  A couple of turbo-props, some select, down-on-their luck cities (more coming every month,) and we&#039;ll fly your watch-listed ass any time you need a move, a breather, a sight-see.  The permits may be a problem, but surely some Demcoratic grifters can smooth the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like the supersystem is in damn control again.<br />
What to do, what to do.<br />
In the grand spirit of the reigning profit motive, how about<br />
 &#8220;No-Fly Airlines&#8221;?  A couple of turbo-props, some select, down-on-their luck cities (more coming every month,) and we&#8217;ll fly your watch-listed ass any time you need a move, a breather, a sight-see.  The permits may be a problem, but surely some Demcoratic grifters can smooth the way.</p>
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