Comments on: Israeli Ads Warn against Marrying Non-Jews http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/09/israeli-ads-warn-against-marrying-non-jews/ a radical newsletter in the struggle for peace and social justice Thu, 08 Dec 2011 15:07:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Mulga Mumblebrain http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/09/israeli-ads-warn-against-marrying-non-jews/#comment-54375 Mulga Mumblebrain Sat, 12 Sep 2009 01:04:36 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=10360#comment-54375 mary, they are fine letters. Zionist intransigence and vengefulness will be their downfall, if we are lucky. However we must never forget that we are dealing with people who through their millenia of deliberate separation, their tribal ideology of supremacy over all peoples and the horrors inflicted on them , have constructed a group consciousness in many ways deeply antipathetic to non-Jews and paranoid in the extreme. I think it absolutely vital to encourage non-fascist Jews to resist the Talibanisation of Israel. They face great pressures from within Jewish society for standing up for decency, but unless Jewish society repairs itself from within, we are all in deep trouble. The Jews are in an even worse situation today than the Germans were in 1945. They haven't been defeated. Their fascist Judaic Reich has lasted sixty years, not thirteen, is still, relentlessly, expanding, and sits atop a global empire of arms trafficking, drug running, money laundering and all-round chicanery, all furiously denied. Their fifth columnists and dual loyalists control the US polity totally, and those of the other Western states to large degree. The amazing process of Judaising society continues apace, with the Judaic Holocaust becoming a sort of civil religion, while all other genocides, massacres and hecatombs are relegated to history, or denied out of existence. At this moment when, armed to the teeth with thermo-nuclear weapons, immune to international law, controlling the West , reaping the dividends of billions in US tribute and their own 'entrepreneurial' pillage, leading a Western crusade to destroy the Islamic states of the Middle East and in open contempt of international civilised opinion, Israel bestrides the world like a colossus, its real enemy must be hubris. I don't think that the world has ever before seen a situation where one tiny country and small tribe so dominates human affairs, and in such negative manner. Israel's downfall, I suspect, will be its absolutism, its total refusal to compromise with a world it sees as its inferior, in particular the 'two-legged Palestinian animals. The prospects for the future, given Israel's worsening social-religious fanaticism, Western cowardice and appeasement of this tendency and the increasing instability of a world order built on violent brutality, fill me with horror. mary, they are fine letters. Zionist intransigence and vengefulness will be their downfall, if we are lucky. However we must never forget that we are dealing with people who through their millenia of deliberate separation, their tribal ideology of supremacy over all peoples and the horrors inflicted on them , have constructed a group consciousness in many ways deeply antipathetic to non-Jews and paranoid in the extreme. I think it absolutely vital to encourage non-fascist Jews to resist the Talibanisation of Israel. They face great pressures from within Jewish society for standing up for decency, but unless Jewish society repairs itself from within, we are all in deep trouble. The Jews are in an even worse situation today than the Germans were in 1945. They haven’t been defeated. Their fascist Judaic Reich has lasted sixty years, not thirteen, is still, relentlessly, expanding, and sits atop a global empire of arms trafficking, drug running, money laundering and all-round chicanery, all furiously denied. Their fifth columnists and dual loyalists control the US polity totally, and those of the other Western states to large degree. The amazing process of Judaising society continues apace, with the Judaic Holocaust becoming a sort of civil religion, while all other genocides, massacres and hecatombs are relegated to history, or denied out of existence. At this moment when, armed to the teeth with thermo-nuclear weapons, immune to international law, controlling the West , reaping the dividends of billions in US tribute and their own ‘entrepreneurial’ pillage, leading a Western crusade to destroy the Islamic states of the Middle East and in open contempt of international civilised opinion, Israel bestrides the world like a colossus, its real enemy must be hubris. I don’t think that the world has ever before seen a situation where one tiny country and small tribe so dominates human affairs, and in such negative manner. Israel’s downfall, I suspect, will be its absolutism, its total refusal to compromise with a world it sees as its inferior, in particular the ‘two-legged Palestinian animals. The prospects for the future, given Israel’s worsening social-religious fanaticism, Western cowardice and appeasement of this tendency and the increasing instability of a world order built on violent brutality, fill me with horror.

]]> By: bozhidar balkas vancouver http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/09/israeli-ads-warn-against-marrying-non-jews/#comment-54248 bozhidar balkas vancouver Thu, 10 Sep 2009 15:57:17 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=10360#comment-54248 Like in any interethnic or interethnic-intercultish conflict, i see only three solutions for such conflicts: humane to a degree, political, and military. Unfortunately for the european multiethnic cult, it chose solely a military 'solution' And since much of the world now rejects that 'solution' or the first tsunami that hit palestine and now causing endless odious waves and ripples of evil doing, the multiethnicity, armed with a perilous cult not only to self but also to others, laments rejection of initial tsunamy and waves upon waves of multiethno-cultish crimes. Nevertheless, a s'mwhat win-win result still appears posible. Possibly 90% of the world wants it. But the world that matters the most [because of its power]; the christo-talmudic crowd appear only to want to obtain a win-loss result. Yet, eventually, the multiethnic and cultish aggregation may be the biggest losers. It certainly won't be world plutos; most of which hate all cults except moneysm! go figure! tnx Like in any interethnic or interethnic-intercultish conflict, i see only three solutions for such conflicts: humane to a degree, political, and military.
Unfortunately for the european multiethnic cult, it chose solely a military ‘solution’
And since much of the world now rejects that ‘solution’ or the first tsunami that hit palestine and now causing endless odious waves and ripples of evil doing, the multiethnicity, armed with a perilous cult not only to self but also to others, laments rejection of initial tsunamy and waves upon waves of multiethno-cultish crimes.

Nevertheless, a s’mwhat win-win result still appears posible. Possibly 90% of the world wants it. But the world that matters the most [because of its power]; the christo-talmudic crowd appear only to want to obtain a win-loss result.

Yet, eventually, the multiethnic and cultish aggregation may be the biggest losers. It certainly won’t be world plutos; most of which hate all cults except moneysm!
go figure! tnx

]]> By: mary http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/09/israeli-ads-warn-against-marrying-non-jews/#comment-54241 mary Thu, 10 Sep 2009 14:55:54 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=10360#comment-54241 A letter in the Morning Star from my brother relating to Uri Avnery's recent article and a comment thereon. 'The world sitting on its hands' I write in support of John Wight's letter 'A human tragedy that transcends race' (M Star September 2) Mr Avnery writes comfortable words about the barbarous treatment of the native population of Palestine. They convey little of the great suffering of the resilient and courageous Palestinian people. As John Wight says, Avnery is proposing no more than the preservation of the status quo. Stand at Rafah with one's back to the wall of steel piles and view the Warsaw of 1943. The facades of those few buildings which remain standing are pock marked by thousands upon thousands of bullets and cannon shells, hatred in every one. The mound over there! My friend, a lecturer in English at the Islamic University of Gaza was given thirty minutes to leave in April 2004 with his wife and six children before it was shelled in the dead of night. He excelled in his PhD thesis here in Britain but now he and his family are 'stateless' whilst the source of their misery moves slowly with a visa extension. They flew to Cairo a month ago but were not allowed into the Gaza concentration camp by the Egyptian quislings, so back they were sent. These are but pinpricks of the terrible torment our sisters and brothers suffer in the remnants of Palestine. Avnery fought for Zionism and is a Zionist. The Morning Star stands against colonialism and it should find no place for a most vicious example of colonialism. Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions are starting to work. Moral pressure is vital. We must know 'Israel' is not a state; statehood was dependent upon its observation of Resolution 194 - 'return'. We remember the Jewish Holocaust but also the holocausts of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the North American Indian, the Slave Trade, the near extinction of the Australian Aborigine and others. David Halpin Newton Abbot http://www.morningstaronline.co.uk/index.php/news/letters/Most-vicious-example-of-colonialism [John Wight from Edinburgh had written - A human tragedy that transcends race Wednesday 02 September 2009 Uri Avnery's analysis of the international boycott campaign against Israel (M Star August 30) made for a disappointing and demoralising read. In every article, speech, or statement against the boycott, at least those written or made by well-meaning people, it's always revealing to hear their proposed alternative. In Mr Avnery's case, this boils down to the world sitting on its hands waiting for the US government to come to the rescue with a yet another comprehensive peace plan and proposal for yet another attempt at a two-state solution. Sadly, such faith in what has already been tried and failed, such belief in any US government playing the role of honest broker when it comes to this issue, reveals nothing except the author's own pessimism. The US government, as far as the Palestinians are concerned, is the sponsor of their oppressor. To suggest that they and the world should relinquish the struggle and instead place their hopes in the kind of passivity that Mr Avnery seems to be suggesting is simply ludicrous. If lessons are to be learned from the horrors of the Holocaust then surely the key one is that it must be treated as a human tragedy which transcends religion, race and ethnicity. The boycott campaign continues at the request of the Palestinians themselves, who year on year grow ever more desperate, who year on year continue to hang on to their history, culture, land and dignity by a shred. No two struggles are the same. But international solidarity, whether in Spain in the 1930s, the struggle against apartheid South Africa or support of the Palestinians, will always be the last great hope in the struggle for human progress. John Wight Edinburgh] A letter in the Morning Star from my brother relating to Uri Avnery’s recent article and a comment thereon.

‘The world sitting on its hands’

I write in support of John Wight’s letter ‘A human tragedy that transcends race’ (M Star September 2)

Mr Avnery writes comfortable words about the barbarous treatment of the native population of Palestine. They convey little of the great suffering of the resilient and courageous Palestinian people.

As John Wight says, Avnery is proposing no more than the preservation of the status quo. Stand at Rafah with one’s back to the wall of steel piles and view the Warsaw of 1943. The facades of those few buildings which remain standing are pock marked by thousands upon thousands of bullets and cannon shells, hatred in every one. The mound over there! My friend, a lecturer in English at the Islamic University of Gaza was given thirty minutes to leave in April 2004 with his wife and six children before it was shelled in the dead of night. He excelled in his PhD thesis here in Britain but now he and his family are ‘stateless’ whilst the source of their misery moves slowly with a visa extension. They flew to Cairo a month ago but were not allowed into the Gaza concentration camp by the Egyptian quislings, so back they were sent. These are but pinpricks of the terrible torment our sisters and brothers suffer in the remnants of Palestine.

Avnery fought for Zionism and is a Zionist. The Morning Star stands against colonialism and it should find no place for a most vicious example of colonialism.

Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions are starting to work. Moral pressure is vital. We must know ‘Israel’ is not a state; statehood was dependent upon its observation of Resolution 194 – ‘return’. We remember the Jewish Holocaust but also the holocausts of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the North American Indian, the Slave Trade, the near extinction of the Australian Aborigine and others.

David Halpin
Newton Abbot

http://www.morningstaronline.co.uk/index.php/news/letters/Most-vicious-example-of-colonialism

[John Wight from Edinburgh had written -

A human tragedy that transcends race
Wednesday 02 September 2009

Uri Avnery's analysis of the international boycott campaign against Israel (M Star August 30) made for a disappointing and demoralising read.

In every article, speech, or statement against the boycott, at least those written or made by well-meaning people, it's always revealing to hear their proposed alternative. In Mr Avnery's case, this boils down to the world sitting on its hands waiting for the US government to come to the rescue with a yet another comprehensive peace plan and proposal for yet another attempt at a two-state solution.

Sadly, such faith in what has already been tried and failed, such belief in any US government playing the role of honest broker when it comes to this issue, reveals nothing except the author's own pessimism.

The US government, as far as the Palestinians are concerned, is the sponsor of their oppressor. To suggest that they and the world should relinquish the struggle and instead place their hopes in the kind of passivity that Mr Avnery seems to be suggesting is simply ludicrous.

If lessons are to be learned from the horrors of the Holocaust then surely the key one is that it must be treated as a human tragedy which transcends religion, race and ethnicity.

The boycott campaign continues at the request of the Palestinians themselves, who year on year grow ever more desperate, who year on year continue to hang on to their history, culture, land and dignity by a shred.

No two struggles are the same. But international solidarity, whether in Spain in the 1930s, the struggle against apartheid South Africa or support of the Palestinians, will always be the last great hope in the struggle for human progress.

John Wight
Edinburgh]

]]> By: b99 http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/09/israeli-ads-warn-against-marrying-non-jews/#comment-54233 b99 Thu, 10 Sep 2009 14:14:53 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=10360#comment-54233 Mulga - I think Mebosa has made it clear that he believes the Jewish soul is more precious than that of the gentile. That is why he believes Jews are entitled to all of Palestine - and likely then some. Mulga – I think Mebosa has made it clear that he believes the Jewish soul is more precious than that of the gentile. That is why he believes Jews are entitled to all of Palestine – and likely then some.

]]> By: Mulga Mumblebrain http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/09/israeli-ads-warn-against-marrying-non-jews/#comment-54113 Mulga Mumblebrain Wed, 09 Sep 2009 02:19:12 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=10360#comment-54113 B99, I remember linking to a ranting Jufdeofascist website once, where the resident 'Rabbi' was raving about all the 'precious Jewish souls' being lost to outmarriage in the 'United States of Amalek'. As you know, for the Judaic fundamentalists 'them's fightin' words, varmint', or should I say 'killin' words'. You see it's that old problem, not widely enough appreciated, that for a proportion of Jews, probably growing, at least inside Israel, the nonsense about a 'Chosen People' is believed literally, not metaphorically, just as Rabbi Kook the Elder, the Ashkenazi Chief Rabbi of Israel meant when he said that 'There is a greater difference between the soul of a Jew and a non-Jew...than there is between the soul of a non-Jew and the soul of an animal'. I suspect golem mebosa thinks along similar lines. I'd be interested to know if I am wrong in this belief. B99, I remember linking to a ranting Jufdeofascist website once, where the resident ‘Rabbi’ was raving about all the ‘precious Jewish souls’ being lost to outmarriage in the ‘United States of Amalek’. As you know, for the Judaic fundamentalists ‘them’s fightin’ words, varmint’, or should I say ‘killin’ words’. You see it’s that old problem, not widely enough appreciated, that for a proportion of Jews, probably growing, at least inside Israel, the nonsense about a ‘Chosen People’ is believed literally, not metaphorically, just as Rabbi Kook the Elder, the Ashkenazi Chief Rabbi of Israel meant when he said that ‘There is a greater difference between the soul of a Jew and a non-Jew…than there is between the soul of a non-Jew and the soul of an animal’. I suspect golem mebosa thinks along similar lines. I’d be interested to know if I am wrong in this belief.

]]> By: B99 http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/09/israeli-ads-warn-against-marrying-non-jews/#comment-54108 B99 Wed, 09 Sep 2009 01:24:58 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=10360#comment-54108 Mebosa - The United States is the land of out-marriage. Early on it was Dutch marrying English or Scots, later it was German Catholics marrying Irish Catholics. And then it became a free for all among whites - Jews Included - and now we find that out-marriage rates show that Americans marry black-white, white-Hispanic, Asian-Hispanic, etc., and whatever. So out-marriage in the US is not an issue. And it should not be for secular US Jews either. That's why half of American Jews out-marry (as does the one who marries a Jew). That is their choice. And there is no problem. Because an observant Jew in the US will always marry another observant Jew. That's your target audience. The rest are free to out-marry - it's the American way. Mebosa – The United States is the land of out-marriage. Early on it was Dutch marrying English or Scots, later it was German Catholics marrying Irish Catholics. And then it became a free for all among whites – Jews Included – and now we find that out-marriage rates show that Americans marry black-white, white-Hispanic, Asian-Hispanic, etc., and whatever. So out-marriage in the US is not an issue. And it should not be for secular US Jews either. That’s why half of American Jews out-marry (as does the one who marries a Jew). That is their choice. And there is no problem. Because an observant Jew in the US will always marry another observant Jew. That’s your target audience. The rest are free to out-marry – it’s the American way.

]]> By: Ronald http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/09/israeli-ads-warn-against-marrying-non-jews/#comment-54066 Ronald Tue, 08 Sep 2009 12:53:11 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=10360#comment-54066 Thumbs up Israel! I wish my own government refused to recognize marriages between Judeo-Christian and Muslim citizens (unless they are performed abroad). Thumbs up Israel! I wish my own government refused to recognize marriages between Judeo-Christian and Muslim citizens (unless they are performed abroad).

]]> By: United-Socialist-Front http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/09/israeli-ads-warn-against-marrying-non-jews/#comment-54049 United-Socialist-Front Tue, 08 Sep 2009 05:14:55 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=10360#comment-54049 RON PAUL SAID ISRAEL HAS 300 ATOMIC BOMBS. ISRAEL IS A THREAT TO THE WORLD http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HD9nO0c328 most USA voters are too fucking dumb, that's why Ron Paul gets so litte %, because of the fucking stupidity, illiteracy and fucking dumbness in this fucking society yeah indeed, Ron Paul, even though a capitalist, he is a protectionist-nationalist-reformist like Peron of Argentina, which would not be a bad option for USA. at least he is more socialist, than Obama. he is right in that Israel has 300 atomic bombs and can kill us all. Israel is an evil nation !! . RON PAUL SAID ISRAEL HAS 300 ATOMIC BOMBS. ISRAEL IS A THREAT TO THE WORLD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HD9nO0c328

most USA voters are too fucking dumb, that’s why Ron Paul gets so litte %, because of the fucking stupidity, illiteracy and fucking dumbness in this fucking society

yeah indeed, Ron Paul, even though a capitalist, he is a protectionist-nationalist-reformist like Peron of Argentina, which would not be a bad option for USA. at least he is more socialist, than Obama. he is right in that Israel has 300 atomic bombs and can kill us all. Israel is an evil nation !!

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]]> By: brian http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/09/israeli-ads-warn-against-marrying-non-jews/#comment-54019 brian Mon, 07 Sep 2009 22:59:25 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=10360#comment-54019 This is what happens when you spoil and indulge a child...you create a brat This is what happens when you spoil and indulge a child…you create a brat

]]> By: David http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/09/israeli-ads-warn-against-marrying-non-jews/#comment-54017 David Mon, 07 Sep 2009 22:17:39 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=10360#comment-54017 Man, oh man. What a screwed up country Israel is. Then again, it could only be thus given racist zionism, its founding ideology. This item reminds me of how the Nazis did everything possible to prevent so-called Ayrians from marrying other outside of their tribe. No wonder the term "little Nazis" is increasingly heard in reference to Jewish Israelis. What a collosal mess!!! Israel, the "Jewish state" has 15 years at most. Finally, the world and Jews will be free of the curse of zionism. Man, oh man. What a screwed up country Israel is. Then again, it could only be thus given racist zionism, its founding ideology. This item reminds me of how the Nazis did everything possible to prevent so-called Ayrians from marrying other outside of their tribe. No wonder the term “little Nazis” is increasingly heard in reference to Jewish Israelis. What a collosal mess!!! Israel, the “Jewish state” has 15 years at most. Finally, the world and Jews will be free of the curse of zionism.

]]> By: MEBOSA RITCHIE http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/09/israeli-ads-warn-against-marrying-non-jews/#comment-54003 MEBOSA RITCHIE Mon, 07 Sep 2009 21:13:05 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=10360#comment-54003 brian,so true saudi arabia,iran,afghanistan,somalia and all the other muslim theocracies get hammered in the western media but the jewish/zionist state gets a free ride brian,so true
saudi arabia,iran,afghanistan,somalia and all the other muslim theocracies get hammered in the western media but the jewish/zionist state gets a free ride

]]> By: brian http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/09/israeli-ads-warn-against-marrying-non-jews/#comment-53996 brian Mon, 07 Sep 2009 20:10:25 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=10360#comment-53996 only the zionist entity could get away with this policy, and not be keel-hauled in the media. only the zionist entity could get away with this policy, and not be keel-hauled in the media.

]]> By: Michael Kenny http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/09/israeli-ads-warn-against-marrying-non-jews/#comment-53979 Michael Kenny Mon, 07 Sep 2009 18:41:27 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=10360#comment-53979 What a beautiful example of just how desperate Israel is getting! Music to Palestinian ears! What a beautiful example of just how desperate Israel is getting! Music to Palestinian ears!

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