Comments on: Goldstone’s Report: A Different Look

By: Mulga Mumblebrain

Mulga Mumblebrain — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 10:28:16 +0000

mary, you can just imagine the conference, if the Nazis had survived and adopted the unctuous hypocrisy of the West. ‘The Ethical Challenges of Fighting Terrorism-The Warsaw Ghetto as a Case Study’. The Israeli Nazis follow the German, UK and American ones by labeling any resistance to their overwhelming state terrorism as ‘terrorism’. It is, of course, a lie, an oafish and transparent one. The sheer dastardliness of Israeli behaviour in Gaza, as witnessed by the world, as reported by the Gazans and Arab media, as denounced by Israeli troops and as exposed by the Goldstone Report, is utterly unarguable. To then produce ‘professors’ and ‘academics’ who argue that it was the usual ‘moral purity’ and to spit venom, vitriol and invective at all who dare profess to be outraged by brutal, cowardly child murder, is, I believe, evidence not only of phenomenal narcissism and self-delusion, but of an inversion of reality that could only be achieved by the psychotically ill, or people who regard the good opinion of humanity as utterly irrelevant. The worst type of Jew, the absolutist supremacists, those who believe that the goyim are all animals who just live to plot the extermination of the Jews, are emboldened and reinforced in their wickedness by opposition to their depravity. We are dealing with those who absolutely do not equate Palestinian life with Jewish life, who believe it is a religious obligation and good deed to kill civilians and who see a disproportionate death-toll of one hundred to one as an occurrence of no concern whatsoever. Indeed, to point out this disproportion frequently brings demented denunciations of ‘moral equivalence’ by which they mean the crime of equating Jewish life with that of ‘two legged animals’.

By: B99

B99 — Tue, 29 Sep 2009 02:54:07 +0000

Right you are John Jones.

By: mary

mary — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 12:25:12 +0000

The attack on the Goldstone report has been joined by Zionist Israeli academics.

One from Tel Aviv University, Professor Asa Kasher, who said that the IDF is ‘the most moral army in the world’ (www.bricup.org.uk/news/AcademicsVsGoldstone.htm) was to be found nine months after the end of the Cast Lead Shoah at Herzliya as one of the speakers at the International Counter Terrorism Conference. His subject -

The Ethical Challenges of Fighting Terrorism – The Gaza War as a Case Study

 Prof. Asa Kasher, Laura Schwarz-Kipp Chair in Professional Ethics and Philosophy of Practice, Tel-Aviv University, Israel

 Lt. Col. (Ret.) Daniel Beaudoin, Humanitarian Operations and Civil-Military Advisor, Israel

 Ms. Yael Shahar, ICT Researcher, Israel

 Col. John E. Chere Jr., Army Attaché at the U.S. Embassy, Tel Aviv, Israel

 Col. Bentzi Gruber, Deputy Commander of a Reserve Armored Division, I.D.F., Israel

Note the presence of the US Army Attaché.

The schedule is here
http://www.ict.org.il/Portals/0/Conference%20PDF/ICT_2009_Schedule-website_full.pdf

A wide choice of spine chilling subjects and speakers.

Orwell lives.

By: Mulga Mumblebrain

Mulga Mumblebrain — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 10:48:08 +0000

Well said Shabnam. Netanyahu and the other ultra-chauvinist Israelis simply do not believe that the Palestinians, or any other non-Jew, is the moral, spiritual and divine equivalent of a Jew. While not for an instant condoning any attack on any Jew simply because they are a Jew, a vile crime like any indiscriminate attack on any individual simply because they belong to a certain group, the insane arrogance, of the likes of Netanyahu and the other Zionazis, and their scarcely credible narcissism and total indifference to the suffering of non-Jews they afflict must surely be at the root of much real Jew hatred. I mean there are plenty of people without the self-control to ignore a nasty, virulent ethos of total superiority, expressed in dogma that asserts that oneself and one’s loved ones, friends and neighbours are an inferior species, in comparison to the self-declared ‘Chosen Race’. Such an ideology was vile when expressed by the Nazis alluding to ‘Aryans’ and is vile when asserted by any group. But the Judaic fundamentalists surely take the cake for delusions of supremacism. I agree with your comments concerning Yehudi Menuhin. He, his sister Hepzibah, and other non-supremacist Jews, who saw, as I understand their views to have been, the notion of human solidarity and fraternity as being higher than tribal delusions, founded in ancient mythology, of group self-adoration, are my kind of Jews. I’m sure that this type remain a significant, if, alas, diminishing minority, while the fascists and racists grow madder, badder and more dangerous to the rest of humanity by the day, just like non-Judaic Rightwingers.

By: Shabnam

Shabnam — Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:15:20 +0000

CHEAPENING THE HOLOCUAST BY Netanyahu – HAARETZ SAID

[He had to acknowledge that the firing of rockets on civilians in Israel was a crime. Had he not done so he would have lost all credibility.]

This is the main problem. The ‘chosen people’ reserve the right to kill the indigenous population in order to wipe them off their ancestral land because to prove Netanyahu’s lies which were said at the United Nation and he was blamed by HAARETZ.
Goldstone make the rocket, a toy compare to Zionist’ modern weaponry where was shot after Israelis’ killing of Palestinian and provocation, equivalent to Israeli’s WMD to diminish war criminal activities of the colonists to protect his ‘tribe’ and to make their crimes equal to Palestinians’ act of resistance. This is a bias report. Any child can grasps this point except the ‘chosen people’ like Netanyahu who has revealed himself fully at the United Nation and in an interview by Charlie Rose that HE IS NOT CHOSEN after all, but HE IS A LIAR.
This fact is supported by Haaretz’s critic of Netanyahu the leader of the “CHOSEN PEOPLE.”
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Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu cheapened the memory of the Holocaust in his speech to the United Nations General Assembly on Thursday. He did so twice. Once, when he brandished proof of the very existence of the Holocaust, as if it needed any, and again when he compared Hamas to the Nazis.

If Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad denies the Holocaust, Netanyahu cheapens it. Is there a need of proof, 60 years later? Or, the world might think, is the denier right?
And it is doubtful that any historian of stature would buy the comparison the prime minister made between Hamas and the Nazis, or between the London Blitz and the Qassam rockets on Sderot. In the Blitz, 400 German bombers and 600 fighter planes killed 43,000 people and destroyed more than one million homes. Hamas’ Qassams, perhaps the most primitive weapon in the world, have killed 18 people in eight years. Yes, they sowed great terror – but a Blitz?
And if we can compare a poorly equipped terrorist organization to the horrific Nazi killing machine, why should others not compare the Nazis’ behavior to that of Israel Defense Forces soldiers? In both cases, the comparison is baseless and infuriating.

Netanyahu began the speech as if he were chairman of the Yad Vashem Holocaust memorial – Holocaust, Holocaust, Holocaust; his family and his wife’s family. Then he spoke in Shimon Peres’ terms, proposing a “rosy future” to humanity.

No less demagogic was his attack on the Iranian regime. They shoot demonstrators there, he protested vehemently. As if they don’t do that in our Bil’in and Na’alin.

Then came the kicker: Operation Cast Lead was a pinpoint attack. Israel telephoned thousands of people to tell them to leave their homes. Where to, Mr. Prime Minister? Into the sea? He said the IDF, which killed nearly 1,400 Palestinians, mostly civilians, exhibited unprecedented restraint.

Moving on: We made peace with every Arab leader who wanted to, the premier said. What about Syrian President Bashar Assad, who has been knocking on doors for years, claiming he wants peace? No one has opened the doors.
Talk of security and victims may still have buyers among the WIZO women of America, but that’s it. For a regional power that has almost every weapon in the world in its arsenal and is fighting primitive terror organizations, it is a bit difficult to be taken seriously when talking about security, especially when said security is only for Israelis.

Then came our ancient right to the land and the unavoidable Biblical verses, in English and the original Hebrew, that always end the performance on such occasions – though Netanyahu, unlike his predecessors, did not pull out a skullcap at this crucial moment.

That moment was supposed to move his listeners, but it left me, at least, unmoved by a propagandist prime minister. Hallelujah was heard last night only in Ramat Gan Stadium, at the Leonard Cohen concert.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1116933.html

By: John Jones

John Jones — Sat, 26 Sep 2009 19:32:15 +0000

I am a 74 year old white male. I had been a supporter of Israel until the age of 64, when I investigated the history of the conflict between Israel and Palestine. I was enraged when I discovered I had been lied to my entire life and that Israel was guilty of horrific crimes against the Palestinian people. I have briefly read the Goldstone report and I have to say that, in my opinion, your characterization of Dr. Goldstone is unfair. He had to acknowledge that the firing of rockets on civilians in Israel was a crime. Had he not done so he would have lost all credibility. Clearly his report puts the overwhelming blame for the atrocities committed on the Israeli forces, even advocating the guilty parties being prosecuted by the World Court in the Hague. Again, he could not recommend that the Israelis be prosecuted but the violence committed by Hamas forces was acceptable. He would have lost all credibility.
One must ” read between the lines “. It would be wonderful to see an international trial in the Hague; the monstrous crimes of the Israeli forces would be on display for the world to see. The firing of the rockets – and the death of 2-3 Israelis – would be there for all to see, but the court would have little choice but to find the Israeli forces guilty of gross violations of human rights, and the Arab forces also guilty , but guilty of relatively minor crimes with extenuating circumstances that offer some justification for their acts. In other words, the court would put the offenses by both sides in perspective, finding the Israelis guilty of heinous crimes, while the Palestinians were guilty only of reacting to gross and long lasting violations of their human rights.
It is my understanding that Dr.Goldman took the case with a heavy heart but under the belief that the crimes of Israel had to be exposed to the world. There was no way for him to do so without also detailing the actions of Hamas. You do a disservice to your cause when you distort his role in chairing the investigative commission. I understand where you are coming from, but many persons will shut you out when they sense your charges are so one-sided.

John Jones