Comments on: Deception over Lockerbie

By: Ruisu

Ruisu — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 12:09:26 +0000

Wow. Of course I’m aware of the inadequacies of the main stream press, but I’ve been slowly discovering the genuine alternatives. Just read this (Nov.23rd) following another link. I’m just a relatively normal person who is dedicated to learning the truth. I’m slowly becoming educated through Maidhc’s and other people’s selfless work in unburying such deceptions by the power-holders. Emphatic thanks to all of you.

By: Mulga Mumblebrain

Mulga Mumblebrain — Sat, 26 Sep 2009 22:00:08 +0000

mary, the facts were known from the very start. That the media lie-machine simply follows orders to the letter, and can become stone deaf and totally blind at the drop of a hat, is a triumph of Pavlovian conditioning. The media reptiles learn what to pretend is not there, and what to see, even if invisible, on Murdoch or some other Judeofascist’s preference, or they are purged ‘to encourage the others’. Of course, the initial selection process is careful, and, increasingly in Murdoch’s archipelago of lies here, the Likudnik Judeofascist or ‘Sabbat goy’ sympathiser is the preferred type. Ideological correctness is ensured from the beginning, and a quasi-religious devotion to ‘the cause’. These scum are now cranking up the lies over Iran, in an exact re-run of the tsunami of lies and half-truths that we were smeared with during 2002, against Iraq, led by the same Judeofascists and their enthusiastic stooges. Indeed in Murdoch’s flag-ship in this country, ‘The Australian’ aka ‘The Fundament’,the demands that Obama ‘obliterate’ (in Clinton’s revealing expression) Iran are reaching hysterical levels.And not one media scumbag has the basic decency to jump up and shout ‘Enough’ as the preparations are laid to kill thousands, if not millions of Iranians. The comparison with Die Sturmer, Goebbels, Streicher and Nazi journalism seems to me an insult-to the Nazis!

By: mary

mary — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 23:56:50 +0000

There is a excellent analysis of the Al Megrahi case by Gareth Pierce in the London Review of Books. She is a British human rights lawyer.

Her forensic work ends with -

Al-Megrahi’s trial constituted a unique legal construct, engineered to achieve a political rapprochement, but its content was so manipulated that in reality there was only ever an illusion of a trial. Dr Köchler recorded at its conclusion that it was ‘not fair’ and that it was not ‘conducted in an objective manner’, so that there were ‘many more questions and doubts at the end than the beginning’. Since then, these doubts have not disappeared: on the contrary, the questions are graver, the doubts have grown and so has the strength of the evidence on which they are based. Köchler’s observations continue to have compelling relevance; he found the respect of the court, the defence lawyers included, for the ‘shrouds of secrecy’ and ‘national security considerations’ to be ‘totally incomprehensible to any rational observer’. ‘Proper judicial procedure,’ he continued, ‘is simply impossible if political interests and intelligence services – from whichever side – succeed in interfering in the actual conduct of a court.’

The term miscarriage of justice carries with it the inference of accident, but also of death. There is a pressing need to investigate in detail how it has come about that there has been a form of death in this case – the death of justice – and who should be found responsible.

http://www.lrb.co.uk/v31/n18/peir01_.html?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3118

This excerpt sets the thought processes running -
“It was precisely 38 minutes after Pan Am Flight 103 took off from Heathrow on 21 December 1988 that it exploded over Lockerbie. Within hours, the countryside around Lockerbie was occupied: local people helping with the search under the supervision of Dumfries and Galloway police realised to their astonishment that the terrain was dotted with unidentified Americans not under the command of the local police….scores of men, some wearing no insignia, some the insignia of the FBI and Pan Am (it was noted at the time that many of these men were clearly not Pan Am staff), invaded the area. Lockerbie residents reported seeing unmarked helicopters hovering overhead, carrying men with rifles whose telescopic sights were pointing directly at them.”

Presumably only those who planted the bomb, and those who knew that it had been planted, were in a position to know that it would detonate precisely 38 minutes after takeoff. It would be simple for them – but not for anyone else – to calculate approximately where the explosion would happen. But, says Pierce, within hours the disaster scene was inundated with Americans, some wearing FBI insignia, others unidentified. Where did they come from? How did they get to Lockerbie so quickly, if they had no inkling or premonition of a plot? One is driven to surmise that those who did plant the bomb could well have been the unwitting patsies of a ‘false flag’ operation. No wonder the USA doesn’t want the case to be re-examined.

The comment above is from Craig Murray’s piece on Al Megrahi
(www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2009/09/almegrahi_was_n.html)

By: kalidas

kalidas — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 15:05:47 +0000

By way of deception thou shalt wage religion.

By: Mulga Mumblebrain

Mulga Mumblebrain — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 08:32:58 +0000

The truth about Lockerbie was known long ago. At the time it was published openly in the mainstream media, and various books published that outlined the details. I remember an excellent documentary that was shown on local TV. The involvement of Iran, in revenge for the deliberate downing of the Iranian airbus by the Vincennes (the captain was awarded a medal and the ship’s crew received a rapturous reception on returning to San Diego-some ‘accident’!)using the PFLP, and facilitated by the penetration of a US Drug Enforcement Agency operation, was all generally accepted. When Iran and Syria were required to co-operate with the destruction of Iraq, the media suddenly developed amnesia. The prior narrative disappeared immediately and totally, illustrating, yet again, the totalitarian uniformity of thought, and the moral turpitude of the Western media.
Libya was shaken down for billions (which explains, in part, the hysteria of the Yankee victims’ families, no doubt worried that Libyan innocence might require paying back the blackmail payments), in stark contrast to the passengers from the Iranian airbus, or the Libyans killed when Israel shot down a Libyan passenger jet, in cold blood, over the Sinai in 1973. Still some souls are more precious than others, haven’t you heard, and can be cashed in for vastly greater amounts.
Israeli intelligence involvement is clearly possible. After all they have form, are ruthless and murderous enough, and can rely on the Judaic controlled Western media sewer to suppress any unfortunate revelations. I mean, how many in the West have heard of the ‘celebrating Israelis’ leaping for joy as the Twin Towers collapsed, or ex-President Cossiga of Italy’s blunt assertion that Mossad and the CIA were behind 9/11 and everyone in European intelligence knows it.
Clearly al-Megrahi’s release had nothing to do with ‘compassion’. It was to thwart the appeal and the near certain overturning of the original, vicious and immoral ‘judgment’ that disgraced Scottish ‘justice’. The reaction of the US Right, and its arse-lickers everywhere, was typically psychotic, with much spitting of venom and vitriol in the familiar fashion. When the truth of al-Megrahi’s innocence is so plain, the behaviour of the media vermin is truly revolting but absolutely predictable. We are dealing with creatures who exist to hate and revile, who would love to find some excuse to ‘shock and awe’ Libya just for the fiendish delight in killing ‘rag-heads’, a bloodlust that the millions killed in Lebanon, Gaza, Iraq, Somalia, Afghanistan and Pakistan has not sated one iota.
I expect that after a decent interval, the Western media ghouls will suddenly ‘re-discover’ Iran’s role in Lockerbie, as another brick in the wall of hysterical demonising against Iran, preparatory for Iran’s ‘obliteration’ as the female Clinton revealing put it. The time-line ends next February 28th, as the Israelis love celebrating the festival of Purim, itself commemorating an ancient massacre, with a slaughter. I’d say that by November or December that we will be regaled by scoops of fearless ‘investigative’ journalism, revealing Iran’s responsibility, perhaps with that flair for lying that we well know from Israeli practise exhibited by some stunning discovery that Ahmadinejad himself planted the bomb, or some such tosh.

By: brian

brian — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 07:50:49 +0000

yes, indeed…was israel involved?Most likely…
iran + syria + palestine = israel…

Given the latest shameful display of obsequiesness by western nations walking out of Ahmadinejad speech when he spoke on israel, ,Israel will only grown bolder and bolder with its crimes and atrocities.

By: Frank Duggan

Frank Duggan — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 00:53:17 +0000

My fther always said there is nothing thicker than a dumb Irishman.
Frank Duggan. President
Victims of Pan Am 103, Inc.
(a smart Irishman)