Comments on: Whose Ocean? Whose Wild Salmon? http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/08/whose-ocean-whose-wild-salmon/ a radical newsletter in the struggle for peace and social justice Thu, 08 Dec 2011 15:07:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: yang http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/08/whose-ocean-whose-wild-salmon/#comment-51927 yang Thu, 13 Aug 2009 06:40:56 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=9577#comment-51927 always. your fascination with salmon hoho your mommy's salmon smells like jm's house always.
your fascination with salmon
hoho
your mommy’s salmon smells like jm’s house

]]> By: Don Hawkins http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/08/whose-ocean-whose-wild-salmon/#comment-51777 Don Hawkins Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:20:17 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=9577#comment-51777 Ouch Ouch

]]> By: sid wright http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/08/whose-ocean-whose-wild-salmon/#comment-51776 sid wright Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:13:10 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=9577#comment-51776 the number of fish caught from the atlantic fishing grounds with abnormalities is also worrying as this tends to indicate that chemical pollution of the oceans is now causing genetic defects the number of fish caught from the atlantic fishing grounds with abnormalities is also worrying as this tends to indicate that chemical pollution of the oceans is now causing genetic defects

]]> By: Mulga Mumblebrain http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/08/whose-ocean-whose-wild-salmon/#comment-51668 Mulga Mumblebrain Sun, 09 Aug 2009 01:23:18 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=9577#comment-51668 Don, just as the need for international co-operation to face the ecological crisis, the resource depletion crises and the debt crisis reaches the point of absolute necessity, the rulers of the American Reich and its satellite states have decided, instead, that it is time for the long anticipated onslaught on China. In this country the media morass has clearly received its marching orders. Each day brings a new insult, a new slap in the face for a country that has not only done nothing to us, but also keeps our economy afloat with its commodity purchases. Just this week we have been treated to the sight of the Uighur 'resistance' leader, Reeba Kadeer, another of those brave 'freedom fighters' like the Dalai, the Contras, al Qaeda,et al, who the American Reich has financed, whose insurgents have been trained and armed to attack Washington's enemies, visiting the country. Coming so soon after the killings of over one hundred Han Chinese by Uighur terrorists in Xinjiang, this is a calculated insult, with heavy xenophobic and racist overtones. The absolutely justified Chinese protests,(and who can imagine a movie glorifying the leader of a 'resistance movement' that has just caused 150 plus deaths in Detroit or Birmingham or Albury being shown at a 'movie festival')have been met with the usual chauvinistic expectorations denouncing Chinese 'interference' in our affairs. That casual projection and inversion of reality so typical of the psychopathic Right is on display, as ever. The Australian-Chinese relationship grew strongly during the years of the extreme Rightwing Howard regime, despite Howard's well-known aversion to all things non-Anglo-Saxon or non-Judeo-Christian, because there were hundreds of billions in money flowing from China, and because the Opposition Labor Party saw no political advantage in stoking the flames of racism and xenophobia. The Rightwing, or rather the more Rightwing parties, in Opposition now, see no such compunction. They have been kicking the anti-Chinese racist can since Rudd became PM. They began by insinuating that Rudd, as he spoke fluent 'Mandarin' Chinese, was a 'Manchurian Candidate' who would sell us out to the 'Yellow Peril'. Numerous provocations have followed, and as ever, the 'Free Press' have been speaking with one voice. The Murdoch pathocracy has been to the fore with their trademark hysterical vehemence. Naturally no voices arguing against the ideological monoculture are allowed. The Chinese have become honourary Palestinians overnight. In particular the note of racist and civilizational supremacy and contempt for Chinese institutions has been marked, as if it were still 1840 and the 'sick man of the Orient' had better still jump to when a White Man barks his demands. Obviously the rise of the Chinese economy, the advance of China scientifically, technically and culturally has been felt as an outright affront by those still harbouring heartfelt delusions of Western superiority. Rudd has over-reacted in panic, and begun to ape his political foes in lecturing the Chinese. The Chinese have, wisely, refused to retaliate, but have made their objections known. Naturally, while we welcome 'resistance' leaders whose open ambition, financed by the American Reich, is the dismemberment of China along the lines of the successful operations in the USSR and Yugoslavia, with who knows how many deaths and casualties, that's OK, but China objecting is an enormous interference in our lives. Then again cynical hypocrisy, along with impudent lying, is one of the pillars of our political life, but the sheer gall with which it is practised never ceases to impress. So, dear Don, I think we will get nowhere expecting international co-operation. The 'Clash of Civilizations' mob would rather see the world destroyed than take orders from a 'Chink' let alone a 'ChiComm'. Fortunately the Chinese are just getting on with the job, building wind, solar, renewable bio-mass and more energy sources, and spending big on research. You see, in my opinion at least, a meritocracy populated by technocrats, engineers and scientists, where advancement is by virtue, in the main, of talent, beats a pathocracy whose functionaries are the servants of the money power, a class of hereditary parasites whose greed and hatred for others are literally limitless. Don, just as the need for international co-operation to face the ecological crisis, the resource depletion crises and the debt crisis reaches the point of absolute necessity, the rulers of the American Reich and its satellite states have decided, instead, that it is time for the long anticipated onslaught on China. In this country the media morass has clearly received its marching orders. Each day brings a new insult, a new slap in the face for a country that has not only done nothing to us, but also keeps our economy afloat with its commodity purchases.
Just this week we have been treated to the sight of the Uighur ‘resistance’ leader, Reeba Kadeer, another of those brave ‘freedom fighters’ like the Dalai, the Contras, al Qaeda,et al, who the American Reich has financed, whose insurgents have been trained and armed to attack Washington’s enemies, visiting the country. Coming so soon after the killings of over one hundred Han Chinese by Uighur terrorists in Xinjiang, this is a calculated insult, with heavy xenophobic and racist overtones. The absolutely justified Chinese protests,(and who can imagine a movie glorifying the leader of a ‘resistance movement’ that has just caused 150 plus deaths in Detroit or Birmingham or Albury being shown at a ‘movie festival’)have been met with the usual chauvinistic expectorations denouncing Chinese ‘interference’ in our affairs. That casual projection and inversion of reality so typical of the psychopathic Right is on display, as ever.
The Australian-Chinese relationship grew strongly during the years of the extreme Rightwing Howard regime, despite Howard’s well-known aversion to all things non-Anglo-Saxon or non-Judeo-Christian, because there were hundreds of billions in money flowing from China, and because the Opposition Labor Party saw no political advantage in stoking the flames of racism and xenophobia. The Rightwing, or rather the more Rightwing parties, in Opposition now, see no such compunction. They have been kicking the anti-Chinese racist can since Rudd became PM. They began by insinuating that Rudd, as he spoke fluent ‘Mandarin’ Chinese, was a ‘Manchurian Candidate’ who would sell us out to the ‘Yellow Peril’.
Numerous provocations have followed, and as ever, the ‘Free Press’ have been speaking with one voice. The Murdoch pathocracy has been to the fore with their trademark hysterical vehemence. Naturally no voices arguing against the ideological monoculture are allowed. The Chinese have become honourary Palestinians overnight. In particular the note of racist and civilizational supremacy and contempt for Chinese institutions has been marked, as if it were still 1840 and the ‘sick man of the Orient’ had better still jump to when a White Man barks his demands. Obviously the rise of the Chinese economy, the advance of China scientifically, technically and culturally has been felt as an outright affront by those still harbouring heartfelt delusions of Western superiority.
Rudd has over-reacted in panic, and begun to ape his political foes in lecturing the Chinese. The Chinese have, wisely, refused to retaliate, but have made their objections known. Naturally, while we welcome ‘resistance’ leaders whose open ambition, financed by the American Reich, is the dismemberment of China along the lines of the successful operations in the USSR and Yugoslavia, with who knows how many deaths and casualties, that’s OK, but China objecting is an enormous interference in our lives. Then again cynical hypocrisy, along with impudent lying, is one of the pillars of our political life, but the sheer gall with which it is practised never ceases to impress.
So, dear Don, I think we will get nowhere expecting international co-operation. The ‘Clash of Civilizations’ mob would rather see the world destroyed than take orders from a ‘Chink’ let alone a ‘ChiComm’. Fortunately the Chinese are just getting on with the job, building wind, solar, renewable bio-mass and more energy sources, and spending big on research. You see, in my opinion at least, a meritocracy populated by technocrats, engineers and scientists, where advancement is by virtue, in the main, of talent, beats a pathocracy whose functionaries are the servants of the money power, a class of hereditary parasites whose greed and hatred for others are literally limitless.

]]> By: Jeff http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/08/whose-ocean-whose-wild-salmon/#comment-51665 Jeff Sun, 09 Aug 2009 00:14:05 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=9577#comment-51665 Don Hawkins, keep up your vigilance. Thank you for your unique sight. Don Hawkins, keep up your vigilance.

Thank you for your unique sight.

]]> By: Don Hawkins http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/08/whose-ocean-whose-wild-salmon/#comment-51664 Don Hawkins Sun, 09 Aug 2009 00:00:14 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=9577#comment-51664 Your right Jeff. SHENYANG, Aug. 5 (Xinhua) -- More than 900,000 people in northern China's Shanxi and Liaoning provinces are suffering from a drinking water shortage due to an ongoing drought, local officials said Wednesday. And flooding in China normal, no. NEW DELHI — India's prime minister promised Saturday that no citizen would go hungry as a result of scanty monsoon rains that have threatened the output of rice and other vital crops. Prime Minister Manmohan Singh also promised strong action against "hoarders and black marketeers" after the weather office reported that monsoon rains for the past week were 64 percent below average. The country of nearly 1.2 billion people was facing a "difficult situation" as a result of the weak monsoon, Singh told a meeting of state chief secretaries called to discuss the impact of the weak monsoon. But "we are in a position to ensure adequate availability of foodgrains in drought-affected areas," he said, thanks to bumper crops in the past two years. "In no case should we allow citizens to go hungry," Singh said. Africa forget about it. Iraq turning into a dust bowl Western Antarctica melting way to fast. I could keep witting for an hour or so the changes. A Herculean effort means sharing information knowledge with China India kind of working together and other countries are ahead of us on the knowledge front. Palin for President in 2012 then just think we at that point will close that knowledge gap but just the next three years should tell the story. Your right Jeff.

SHENYANG, Aug. 5 (Xinhua) — More than 900,000 people in northern China’s Shanxi and Liaoning provinces are suffering from a drinking water shortage due to an ongoing drought, local officials said Wednesday.

And flooding in China normal, no.

NEW DELHI — India’s prime minister promised Saturday that no citizen would go hungry as a result of scanty monsoon rains that have threatened the output of rice and other vital crops.

Prime Minister Manmohan Singh also promised strong action against “hoarders and black marketeers” after the weather office reported that monsoon rains for the past week were 64 percent below average.

The country of nearly 1.2 billion people was facing a “difficult situation” as a result of the weak monsoon, Singh told a meeting of state chief secretaries called to discuss the impact of the weak monsoon.

But “we are in a position to ensure adequate availability of foodgrains in drought-affected areas,” he said, thanks to bumper crops in the past two years.

“In no case should we allow citizens to go hungry,” Singh said.

Africa forget about it. Iraq turning into a dust bowl Western Antarctica melting way to fast. I could keep witting for an hour or so the changes. A Herculean effort means sharing information knowledge with China India kind of working together and other countries are ahead of us on the knowledge front. Palin for President in 2012 then just think we at that point will close that knowledge gap but just the next three years should tell the story.

]]> By: Jeff http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/08/whose-ocean-whose-wild-salmon/#comment-51663 Jeff Sat, 08 Aug 2009 23:30:34 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=9577#comment-51663 Don Hawkins, you disappoint. Your post gives credence of the point I was trying to make. Your "global" perception concerning 'global climate change' revolves around "The United States of America". Where are your statistics concerning the rest of this globe and just how "those weather patterns" apply. 'Those whom are blind see': In this case the answer is NO. Don Hawkins, you disappoint. Your post gives credence of the point I was trying to make. Your “global” perception concerning ‘global climate change’ revolves around “The United States of America”. Where are your statistics concerning the rest of this globe and just how “those weather patterns” apply.

‘Those whom are blind see’: In this case the answer is NO.

]]> By: Don Hawkins http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/08/whose-ocean-whose-wild-salmon/#comment-51662 Don Hawkins Sat, 08 Aug 2009 23:15:19 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=9577#comment-51662 Have you been watching the weather not the climate the weather in the States this summer? So far 1.4 million acres of forest burned in Alaska. Texas South Texas drought and now praying for rain. California a bit dry and more dry on the way. Record high temperatures in the West and yesterday a frost warming. Now the middle of the Country hot. From the ice and snow people out of Colorado. Arctic sea ice extent for the month of July was the third lowest for that month in the satellite record, after 2007 and 2006. The average rate of melt in July 2009 was nearly identical to that of July 2007. A strong high-pressure system, similar to the atmospheric pattern that dominated the summer of 2007, brought warm winds and clear skies to the western Arctic, promoting ice melt. Weather patterns bring clear skies, warmth The atmospheric circulation pattern for summer 2009 has been similar to the pattern in summer 2007. As in 2007, an unusually strong high-pressure cell (an anticyclone) settled over the Beaufort Sea, bringing warm air into the Chukchi Sea. This year, the Beaufort Sea anticyclone, averaged for June and July 2009, was even stronger than the anticyclone in 2007. However, unlike 2007, this year the Beaufort Sea high-pressure cell is not paired with unusually low pressure over eastern Siberia, the “dipole" pattern that in 2007 promoted strong surface winds and extreme melt. The strong Beaufort Sea high-pressure cell that occurred both this summer and in 2007 is part of a larger scale atmospheric pattern known as the Pacific North American (PNA) “teleconnection.” The airflow in the western hemisphere is usually characterized by a low pressure trough over the North Pacific, a ridge over western North America, and a trough over eastern North America. The PNA describes the strength of this pattern. When the PNA is positive, the normal pattern is amplified and the airflow becomes more “wavy” than usual. While the expressions of the PNA vary by season, the strong western North American ridge during the positive PNA favors a strong Beaufort Sea high pressure system. The stronger than usual trough over eastern North America also helps to explain the cool and rainy weather that has gripped this area much of the summer. NSIDC scientists provide Arctic Sea Ice News & Analysis, with partial support from NASA. Still time to slow this down not all the changes but the real fun stuff. A Herculean effort it will take. Have you been watching the weather not the climate the weather in the States this summer? So far 1.4 million acres of forest burned in Alaska. Texas South Texas drought and now praying for rain. California a bit dry and more dry on the way. Record high temperatures in the West and yesterday a frost warming. Now the middle of the Country hot. From the ice and snow people out of Colorado.

Arctic sea ice extent for the month of July was the third lowest for that month in the satellite record, after 2007 and 2006. The average rate of melt in July 2009 was nearly identical to that of July 2007. A strong high-pressure system, similar to the atmospheric pattern that dominated the summer of 2007, brought warm winds and clear skies to the western Arctic, promoting ice melt.

Weather patterns bring clear skies, warmth
The atmospheric circulation pattern for summer 2009 has been similar to the pattern in summer 2007. As in 2007, an unusually strong high-pressure cell (an anticyclone) settled over the Beaufort Sea, bringing warm air into the Chukchi Sea. This year, the Beaufort Sea anticyclone, averaged for June and July 2009, was even stronger than the anticyclone in 2007. However, unlike 2007, this year the Beaufort Sea high-pressure cell is not paired with unusually low pressure over eastern Siberia, the “dipole” pattern that in 2007 promoted strong surface winds and extreme melt.
The strong Beaufort Sea high-pressure cell that occurred both this summer and in 2007 is part of a larger scale atmospheric pattern known as the Pacific North American (PNA) “teleconnection.” The airflow in the western hemisphere is usually characterized by a low pressure trough over the North Pacific, a ridge over western North America, and a trough over eastern North America. The PNA describes the strength of this pattern. When the PNA is positive, the normal pattern is amplified and the airflow becomes more “wavy” than usual. While the expressions of the PNA vary by season, the strong western North American ridge during the positive PNA favors a strong Beaufort Sea high pressure system. The stronger than usual trough over eastern North America also helps to explain the cool and rainy weather that has gripped this area much of the summer. NSIDC scientists provide Arctic Sea Ice News & Analysis, with partial support from NASA.

Still time to slow this down not all the changes but the real fun stuff. A Herculean effort it will take.

]]> By: Jeff http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/08/whose-ocean-whose-wild-salmon/#comment-51661 Jeff Sat, 08 Aug 2009 23:09:31 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=9577#comment-51661 Maybe I am wrong, but if an issue does not effect 'America' in the NOW, then it must be non relevant. The response to this article shows high merit to the ignorance of most on this planet! Maybe I am wrong, but if an issue does not effect ‘America’ in the NOW, then it must be non relevant. The response to this article shows high merit to the ignorance of most on this planet!

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