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		<title>By: Phil</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/08/obama-on-race-process-over-product/#comment-51521</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 18:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, fellas, let&#039;s not forget that this is the president who miraculously declared us 90% of the way to racial equality back during his campaign. If anyone can suddenly magically cover the remaining 10 with a simple Bud Light, obviously O is the guy for the job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, fellas, let&#8217;s not forget that this is the president who miraculously declared us 90% of the way to racial equality back during his campaign. If anyone can suddenly magically cover the remaining 10 with a simple Bud Light, obviously O is the guy for the job.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/08/obama-on-race-process-over-product/#comment-51505</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 14:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greetings,

The meeting between Obama, Crowely and Gates over beers trivializes the problem of police abuse and racial oppression that Black Americans endure on a daily basis.

Gates should sue  the Cambridge police Pept. and ask for Croweley&#039;s job.  Not just for his own sake but for the sake of those in Cambrigde Mass. who have no voice.  Justice must replace abuse. 

As for Obama, reaching for the beer bottle when there is a problem ?
What an example for kids!   Obama need not lecture the Black American community about responsibility and behaviour when he can be so easily distracted by Budweiser.    When Holder was  in the Clinton Justice Dept. he found that Diallo&#039;s civil rights had not been violated after being shot more than 50 times.

Given the positions taken in the past by Gates, Holder and Obama on race, it seems to me that these persons are most unqualified to offer solutions on race.  

Yours,

Eric</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings,</p>
<p>The meeting between Obama, Crowely and Gates over beers trivializes the problem of police abuse and racial oppression that Black Americans endure on a daily basis.</p>
<p>Gates should sue  the Cambridge police Pept. and ask for Croweley&#8217;s job.  Not just for his own sake but for the sake of those in Cambrigde Mass. who have no voice.  Justice must replace abuse. </p>
<p>As for Obama, reaching for the beer bottle when there is a problem ?<br />
What an example for kids!   Obama need not lecture the Black American community about responsibility and behaviour when he can be so easily distracted by Budweiser.    When Holder was  in the Clinton Justice Dept. he found that Diallo&#8217;s civil rights had not been violated after being shot more than 50 times.</p>
<p>Given the positions taken in the past by Gates, Holder and Obama on race, it seems to me that these persons are most unqualified to offer solutions on race.  </p>
<p>Yours,</p>
<p>Eric</p>
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		<title>By: beverly</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/08/obama-on-race-process-over-product/#comment-51332</link>
		<dc:creator>beverly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 03:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Gatesgate&quot; has gotten beyond ridiculous.  Oh the irony part one.   Like Obama, Gates loves to wag the finger at the black &quot;underclass&quot; for its failings and for crying racism, and, both are enraptured with the purported post-racial America.  Now Gates finds himself in a &quot;fill-in-the-verb&quot; While Black moment and he&#039;s the pitiable victim of racism.  Perhaps if he didn&#039;t mouth off with his &quot;Don&#039;t you know who I am&quot; act AFTER the cop was leaving, he wouldn&#039;t have been arrested.  Be one a 7-figure Harvard professor or low 5-figure working stiff, one will rarely win an argument with the police, regardless of the racial hue of the officer.   In most instances, it&#039;s wiser to do as the officer requests and prepare to call your lawyer and civilian complaint board for redress.

Oh the irony part two.  Obama has much to say when his chum Gates gets victimized by the police but is beyond cautious in his comments about the hail of bullets that killed unarmed Sean Bell and the caught on tape San Fran cop who shot a black suspect in the back while he was face down and subdued by police.   

A beer at the White House?  How quaint. And lame.  If only Obama could find time to invite those with real important matters (single payer advocates who&#039;ve been shut out of health reform debate, unemployed folks and working poor who can tell him what&#039;s really going on out here, for starters) over for refreshments rather than a cop and citizen whose incident should have been handled locally and long ago gotten off the 24/7 media frenzy meter.   

Let&#039;s talk about race.  Rah, rah.  And what do we do once we&#039;ve talked, cried, argued, and sung Kumbaya?  Go back to our jobs (if we have one) with wages that don&#039;t pay enough to live off, to homes facing foreclosure or late rent payments, to shelters overflowing due to crappy economy and lack of affordable housing, to worry about loved ones sent to be killed and injured in immoral wars based on lies, to aches and pains we can&#039;t afford a doctor/dentist/hospital bill to cure, to schools that turn out test taking automatons, not critical thinkers and inquisitive minds, and the list goes on?

As usual, the politicians jump at any chance to avoid the real issues thwarting progress in this country.   They&#039;ll convene a town hall or all- star race commission in a heartbeat which result in pronouncements, apologies, and empty promises.  But they damn sure won&#039;t provide the social and economic framework needed to better the lives of people regardless of racial category.    All this p.c., come together, let&#039;s talk about race bullshit is just a smokescreen to avoid discussion of a domestic (and foreign) policy agenda that keeps the many in dire straits and paying for the reckless and corrupt whims of the power elite few.

People are tired of talk.  They need actions that help them do more than just get by and hang on out here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Gatesgate&#8221; has gotten beyond ridiculous.  Oh the irony part one.   Like Obama, Gates loves to wag the finger at the black &#8220;underclass&#8221; for its failings and for crying racism, and, both are enraptured with the purported post-racial America.  Now Gates finds himself in a &#8220;fill-in-the-verb&#8221; While Black moment and he&#8217;s the pitiable victim of racism.  Perhaps if he didn&#8217;t mouth off with his &#8220;Don&#8217;t you know who I am&#8221; act AFTER the cop was leaving, he wouldn&#8217;t have been arrested.  Be one a 7-figure Harvard professor or low 5-figure working stiff, one will rarely win an argument with the police, regardless of the racial hue of the officer.   In most instances, it&#8217;s wiser to do as the officer requests and prepare to call your lawyer and civilian complaint board for redress.</p>
<p>Oh the irony part two.  Obama has much to say when his chum Gates gets victimized by the police but is beyond cautious in his comments about the hail of bullets that killed unarmed Sean Bell and the caught on tape San Fran cop who shot a black suspect in the back while he was face down and subdued by police.   </p>
<p>A beer at the White House?  How quaint. And lame.  If only Obama could find time to invite those with real important matters (single payer advocates who&#8217;ve been shut out of health reform debate, unemployed folks and working poor who can tell him what&#8217;s really going on out here, for starters) over for refreshments rather than a cop and citizen whose incident should have been handled locally and long ago gotten off the 24/7 media frenzy meter.   </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s talk about race.  Rah, rah.  And what do we do once we&#8217;ve talked, cried, argued, and sung Kumbaya?  Go back to our jobs (if we have one) with wages that don&#8217;t pay enough to live off, to homes facing foreclosure or late rent payments, to shelters overflowing due to crappy economy and lack of affordable housing, to worry about loved ones sent to be killed and injured in immoral wars based on lies, to aches and pains we can&#8217;t afford a doctor/dentist/hospital bill to cure, to schools that turn out test taking automatons, not critical thinkers and inquisitive minds, and the list goes on?</p>
<p>As usual, the politicians jump at any chance to avoid the real issues thwarting progress in this country.   They&#8217;ll convene a town hall or all- star race commission in a heartbeat which result in pronouncements, apologies, and empty promises.  But they damn sure won&#8217;t provide the social and economic framework needed to better the lives of people regardless of racial category.    All this p.c., come together, let&#8217;s talk about race bullshit is just a smokescreen to avoid discussion of a domestic (and foreign) policy agenda that keeps the many in dire straits and paying for the reckless and corrupt whims of the power elite few.</p>
<p>People are tired of talk.  They need actions that help them do more than just get by and hang on out here.</p>
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		<title>By: PTB</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/08/obama-on-race-process-over-product/#comment-51329</link>
		<dc:creator>PTB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 02:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m going to for the most part have to agree with Hue&#039;s assessment. This is an overly generous explanation of Obama&#039;s political maneuvering. Obama doesn&#039;t even feel free to dialogue about race openly (as evidenced by his backtracking and trying to clean up his original comments concerning Gates&#039; arrest) as a black man in the presidential seat. What he did here and what Gates is doing here by accepting Obama&#039;s invitation does nothing to create a public forum about race politics in America, it in fact does just the opposite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to for the most part have to agree with Hue&#8217;s assessment. This is an overly generous explanation of Obama&#8217;s political maneuvering. Obama doesn&#8217;t even feel free to dialogue about race openly (as evidenced by his backtracking and trying to clean up his original comments concerning Gates&#8217; arrest) as a black man in the presidential seat. What he did here and what Gates is doing here by accepting Obama&#8217;s invitation does nothing to create a public forum about race politics in America, it in fact does just the opposite.</p>
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		<title>By: HDG</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/08/obama-on-race-process-over-product/#comment-51247</link>
		<dc:creator>HDG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 03:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He doesn&#039;t like banks.  He doesn&#039;t like car makers.  We don&#039;t want pain. 

The end justifies the means.  Seeing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He doesn&#8217;t like banks.  He doesn&#8217;t like car makers.  We don&#8217;t want pain. </p>
<p>The end justifies the means.  Seeing?</p>
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		<title>By: Hue Longer</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/08/obama-on-race-process-over-product/#comment-51230</link>
		<dc:creator>Hue Longer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 22:29:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yossef,

This is an interesting way to explain what simply appears to be a president doing his best to cover up for a brutal, racist system.  I don&#039;t buy it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yossef,</p>
<p>This is an interesting way to explain what simply appears to be a president doing his best to cover up for a brutal, racist system.  I don&#8217;t buy it.</p>
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		<title>By: Deadbeat</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/08/obama-on-race-process-over-product/#comment-51227</link>
		<dc:creator>Deadbeat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 21:59:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The incident involving Gates and James (Jim Crow) Crowley was a clear case of ABUSE OF POLICE POWER.  Crowley did nothing to diffuse the situation and Gates clearly was in his own home.  Obama chose not to upset the mostly white male conservative  police union.   This is a huge reactionary force that needs to be wedge and a &quot;conversation&quot; will not wedge these folks.  What they want is submissiveness and are all about repression.   Yet another clear example of Police State of America.

How citizens confront PS of A is the conversation that is needed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The incident involving Gates and James (Jim Crow) Crowley was a clear case of ABUSE OF POLICE POWER.  Crowley did nothing to diffuse the situation and Gates clearly was in his own home.  Obama chose not to upset the mostly white male conservative  police union.   This is a huge reactionary force that needs to be wedge and a &#8220;conversation&#8221; will not wedge these folks.  What they want is submissiveness and are all about repression.   Yet another clear example of Police State of America.</p>
<p>How citizens confront PS of A is the conversation that is needed.</p>
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