Comments on: Latin American Social Movements in Times of Economic Crises

By: Mulga Mumblebrain

Mulga Mumblebrain — Fri, 14 Aug 2009 03:33:04 +0000

mary, what Clinton is doing in Africa is what the US Reich does best, meddling in other people’s business. The rise of China must be de-railed, lest the ‘born-to-rule’ (forever) White Men of the incomparable Western Civilization who have brought such tender, loving, concern to the ungrateful swarthy races for 500 glorious years be toppled from their throne. I know it is inconceivable, as God Himself has ordained the Judeo-Christian civilization as His Chosen System, but the atheistic ChiComms refuse to follow orders. As China is increasingly heavily involved in Africa, not subverting governments or supporting evil despots, who loot their country and deposit the money in New York banks as the Yankee Reich does, but simply to trade and invest and build infrastructure, the US was bound to interfere, before it’s too late. That’s why Obama visited Ghana-it’s to be the base for the US military’s Africom military apparatus. Just where the Yankee Bosses get the gall to demand a military presence in another continent is the lesson of the last sixty years of US global dominance and intimidation. Already the US is supporting anti-Chinese demagogues aided by the usual hypocrites and covert agents of the NGO sewer. It will be the Africans of course who will suffer but that would trouble ‘house Negro’ Obama not one whit.

By: lichen

lichen — Fri, 14 Aug 2009 02:26:12 +0000

Yes, indeed – rightwingers tend to think, wrongly, that logging and controlled, intentional fires are “effective” everywhere for purely ideological reasons. In fact, they only suppress wildfires to any degree in a few types of region specific forests, and they don’t excuse building bad homes in locations that are obviously likely to burn up. But with rising global temperatures these sort of destructive climate changes are going to become a reality–living in a burn zone or at the edge of oceans, contained wetlands is not going to be a good decision. But I guess it will be much easier to pick up your things and move uphill than it would have been to force a new way of life that ensures life is still possible?

By: Mulga Mumblebrain

Mulga Mumblebrain — Thu, 13 Aug 2009 23:18:50 +0000

Don, during the bushfires that ravaged Victoria in February, killing 173, the bushfire danger index, which was created in the 1960s to measure fire danger, on the basis of expected temperatures, humidity, dessication of the forests, wind speed etc, and which was calculated in order to make the conditions on ‘Black Friday’ in 1939, a day of terrifying bushfire intensity and great loss of life, the baseline with a reading of 100, recorded readings as high as the 190s. The day was the hottest in recorded Victorian history, nearly 47* Celsius, it came after several days above 43* Celsius, with the lowest humidity ever recorded, the bush dried out by the driest first five weeks of any year (the dryness has continued, presaging even worse conditions this summer) and ferocious, hot, dry winds.
After the disaster, the latest of several mega-fires this decade in Victoria, the others, fortunately, in sparsely populated areas, what was the response of the anthropogenic climate change denialist Right? Did they admit the possibility of error, that the science might be correct after all, or that the worldwide epidemic of megafires might be a sign of something significant.? Not on your life!
Instead they began, aided by the Rightwing media sewer, a vicious, belligerent and nasty campaign to blame the fires on …environmentalists! Yeah, right. You see the fires were caused, at least in these diseased psyches, by the evil ‘greenies’ stopping ‘hazard reduction’ burning. This was immediately refuted by the authorities who pointed out that more burning was happening than ever before, and that burning, even in winter was becoming dangerous, so dry were conditions, but nothing stops a Rightwing liar when in full spate, as we see from your anti-health reform hysteria.
As I suspect you know Don, the Right is both malignant and terminally insane when it comes to environmentalism. They’ve been so well indoctrinated, and brainwashing is so effective with small minds, into hating greenies, by big business and Rightwing media hatemongering over decades, that they are immune to argument. This is the type of mentality that rejects science due to the paranoiac’s refusal to accept that which they are incapable of comprehending, but, being, understandably, loathe to admit their own imbecility, are easy prey for pseudo-scientific mumbo-jumbo so long as it comes to the ideologically correct, Rightwing, conclusions.
No matter how great the disaster, no matter how clear the link to climate change, these creatures will never accept the facts. To do so would undermine the foundations of their psyche. It takes real character, real self-belief, to abandon one’s cherished preconceptions and take the step into the abyss of acknowledged ignorance and start the search for the truth. So, considering that they are being constantly incited by the Rightwing media, such a force for evil in all things, and resistance only provokes them further, and that they all have the vote, things are grim. In this country anthropogenic climate change denialism and anti-environmentalism are actually growing, as the ecosphere collapses. Let’s face it Don-humanity have been set a test, a trial of fitness to survive as a species, and, on all signs so far, we are failing that test, comprehensively.

By: Don Hawkins

Don Hawkins — Thu, 13 Aug 2009 22:22:22 +0000

DAVENPORT, Calif. — Thousands of firefighters battled wildfires across California on Thursday, including a growing blaze that forced about 2,400 people to evacuate their homes in the Santa Cruz Mountains.

The Lockheed Fire, which started around 7 p.m. Wednesday, had scorched about 2,800 acres, or 4.4 square miles, in Santa Cruz County, according to the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection.

The blaze, about 10 miles north of the city of Santa Cruz, threatened more than 1,000 homes and other buildings and has not been contained at all.

And for those people in California I wouldn’t call this the beginning and will it get better not in this Century. Now and a social movement? A little more than that is needed. Now we must try.

By: dan e

dan e — Thu, 13 Aug 2009 22:16:41 +0000

Shabnam Si, Dwilson No.

Thanks also to Mary for good info:)

By: Don Hawkins

Don Hawkins — Thu, 13 Aug 2009 22:12:40 +0000

http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/analysis_monitoring/lanina/images/glbPrecSeaNorm.gif

Look at that chart that’s us all of us on the dot. Where Mulga lives Australia it is probably to late. Reading Mulge for awhile now he is a good and smart man. “Knowing” in Australia what is coming and what is already there must be difficult at times. The time is NOW. Maybe we won’t make it but we must try.

By: dan e

dan e — Thu, 13 Aug 2009 21:48:00 +0000

Mulga,
Many thanks for your response to my hasty “from the hip” comment.

I’m sorry but circumstances plus my own creeping dysfunctionality make it really hard to find time to craft a considered, er, nuanced? statement about these matters. It may be that I’ve underestimated the threat posed by the “teaparty” phenomenon, since I don’t pay much attention to Republican Pty doings, S. Palin etc.

I did take time to follow the coverage of Professor Gates’ ordeal and Obama’s retreat from his first offhand remark indicating the policeman’s conduct was “stupid”.

To me the lesson to be drawn is that if you are concerned about an upsurge of extreme rightwing racist activity, the last figure you need to be supporting is Obama. Re his role, like that of Gates, far as I’m concerned it’s the chickens coming home; they’re just reaping what they’ve sown and continue to sow. To me talk of defending Obama from a “teaparty lynching” just plays into the game the ZioImperialist State’s power configuration is playing.

The Liberals and the Social Democrats will claim that by insisting on facing facts re Obama and the Warontearer by Another Name he is pushing faster than Dubya’s gang ever could, people like me are being “sectarian” because we failed to “unite” with them, failed to join in a “united front”. Which is crazy, because said Libs/DSA types do nothing but sabotage any positive movement they can worm their way into.
While I’m retreating to more defensible terrain, let me say re Medicare, it’s better than nothing. But if you have a toothache it equals nothing, period. Dave Lindorff advances an interesting notion in today’s CP: if Medicare was made universal, if everybody was covered by it, the public would soon insist that it be upgraded, expanded to include Dental, Vision, Acupuncture/OM, first-quality pharmaceuticals instead of the cheapo version of you-name-it. He points out some of the positive features of the program, that it’s simple to use and so on. (if it was really so easy to use, wonder why so many MDs refuse to accept it…)

Back to Obama and “Blackness”: time was when I saw “Crosstown” as the place to be, Black people in general as much wiser, more hip in all respects than “America” and your avg White American. Those were the days when Charlie Parker’s band was opening for WEB DuBois Sunday Lectures at the Audubon Ballroom, which I read about in the Peoples World and a tidbit or two in Downbeat or Metronome, I forget which. “Things to Come”, we used to say.

How wrong we were. We were kept aroused about Lynching by the PW along w Lady Day & Abel what’sisname had the Commodore label — but we couldn’t imaging how slick the purveryors of Cultural Genocide could become. How easy it could be to steal the minds of so many. The parents may have understood a lot but their children were stolen from them by television and Regency Records. It happened in stages: start with Potatos; add some water you have Potato Soup. Take the soup, strain out the solid matter, dilute it somemore, pretty soon you have plain old Water, don’t have nothing to do with Potato.
Well there’s still Glen Ford, Margaret Kimberley, Bruce Dixon, Cynthia McKinney. Mary Ratcliff is great but even the Bay View has to accomodate the Obamaniacs.
But from here it’s been all down hill for a long time. You could hear that the Age of Obama was coming back in Albert Ayler, Ornette & them. Universal Chaos. A question: have any of these rappers told us of anything not foretold by Outside Jazz, if you had ears to hear?
It’s all coming true. Like that bad dream where you’re being chased but your legs won’t move.
Well, Petras is great, tells is like it is in historical detail. But like the guy said, the point is not to understand the world but to change it.

I used to think that like Angela Davis said, there was a “Collective Effort To Change Conditions” that started & was centered in what was called The Black Ghetto. But I don’t see anything coming from such a place now but Confusion. Probably there are a lot of real smart fellas locked up in The Joint, seems like any young folks who show signs of catching on to the scam are soon busted. I don’t go out on the Scene that much nowadays so if you know of something I don’t, please pull my coat.
But to me this is the world of Digital Fascism run amok. If “Amerukka” is to change, looks like to me the main impetus will have to come from outside, because all I see here is one group after another with their minds totally colonized. Obama is a key element in the process, the biggest thing since the invention of 911.

By: Don Hawkins

Don Hawkins — Thu, 13 Aug 2009 20:53:38 +0000

Just on the off chance the science is correct this has to be more than a social movement. That’s right the North pole ice melting in years not century’s is normal.

By: Don Hawkins

Don Hawkins — Thu, 13 Aug 2009 20:12:49 +0000

Organizers have suggested that as many as 100,000 people might take to the streets in Copenhagen. Among those planning around the Denmark conference, there is currently a debate about whether to converge on the conference itself or to target a heavily polluting company somewhere nearby as an example of bad climate-change behavior.
Likewise, in the United States, where events will be timed to take place in solidarity with the demonstrations in Copenhagen, there is a debate about whether to try to work with the Obama administration or turn up the heat on it. In the end, a range of tactics will no doubt be deployed in Copenhagen and in other cities around the world. A coalition of groups, including the normally satiric Yes Men, is managing a site called BeyondTalk.net, which allows people to sign a pledge expressing their willingness to join in nonviolent civil disobedience as the conference date nears.

As of this writing, 3,210 people have signed on. Compared with the numbers of people who will ultimately have to be persuaded of the need to act in order to force meaningful solutions to climate change, that remains a modest tally. In terms of the growing levels of dedication and personal sacrifice it represents, its significance is far greater. After all, that’s more than 3,000 people willing to take the chance that a determined action, even a botched one, might ultimately reverberate far and wide. It’s more than 3,000 people who may just be willing to climb for hours through a huge radiator in order to stop the planet from becoming one in all too short a time.

http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/175105/mark_engler_protesting_at_climate_ground_zero

By: Shabnam

Shabnam — Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:27:37 +0000

Sorry, the above link is related to yet another petition, more or less, the same where was send number of weeks ago. The following is the right link:
http://iranquest.com/?p=9414

By: Shabnam

Shabnam — Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:17:38 +0000

Thank you Professor Petras for reminding us about the role of NGO’s and neo liberal policies and their contributions towards dispassion and poverty of Latin American countries especially Argentina where was self sufficient at one time but went bankrupt after neo liberal attacks on their economy to benefit the US economy and bring US puppets in the position of ‘leadership.’
Now, we witness the same process in Iran. A corrupt and super rich family, Rafsanjani, who gain their wealth not by hard work rather due to monopoly and corruption using his position in the government and acting as an agent of the West in Iran to turn Iran into a kingdom like the terrorist state of Saudi Arabia. People of Iran have voted this corrupt man and members of his family out of power but they find another door to come back into the power structure. Now, Rafsanjani aligned himself with an agent of the West and self designated ‘reformist’ to sell the wealth of nation of Iran, more than 500 billions, below its value to Iranian rich and western thieves to secure his position in the ’New world Order.’ Rafsanjani at the end of his second term tried unsuccessfully to change the Iranian constitution to buy himself another term in office to become ‘Akbar Shah’ but people forced him out. He and next president Khatami used their Western support and changed the Iranian constitution which supported a mixed economic arrangement, where oil industry and other natural resources of the country were protected from the domestic and western thieves, to ‘privatization’ up to 80 percent including the oil industry. This collusion between Rafsanjani and Khatami against Iranian people took place in 2004, a year before Ahmadinejad was elected president.
Rafsanjani has monopoly over pistachio production, aside from his business interest in oil and gas where the Trade Promotion Organization of Iran director recently has stated that pistachio exports would bring the country $1.5b by the end of the calendar year. Now, axis of Rafsanjani – Khatami – Mousavi and their western backers were set a stage to force Ahmadinejad who was elected on June 12, 2009 by wide margin and his supporters out through a coup where is known as ‘color revolution.’ What is interesting, however, is the active role of the so called ‘public intellectuals’ in Zionism/Imperialism coup toward a world with “new order’ to topple ‘unsuitable regimes’ around the world in favor of crooks and puppets like in Azerbaijan, Georgia, Ukraine and now in favor of Mousavi, in Iran.
After publication of Edward Herman and David Petersen’s article ‘Riding the “Green Wave” at the….’ and their response to Campaign for peace and democracy (CPD), a phony ‘anti war’ movement, acts as US government front to smoothen the path for implementation of US imperialism/Zionism policy around the world, like during the cultural cold war, to help Israel and the US achieve their goals in the Middle East and the world. Chomsky has signed all phony petitions related to Iran which is nothing but beating on the drum for regime change where many Iranian activists have written either Open Letters or have sent many emails to tell this phony ‘peace and democracy’ that their petitions is nothing but an ammunition for Zionist neuron towards waging a war but all dropped on deaf ears where is understandable knowing the nature of CPD and its permanent supporters as US government front.
Chomsky and other Zionist closets have supported the US velvet revolution against Iranian government for regime change and publicly in writing and actions has supported Iranian liars, and NED organized demonstrations in America and Iran. Now Chomsky and other ‘intellectuals’, majority of them are closet zionist Jews, who have sent another letter to a zionist puppet, UN secretary General, Ban Ki Moon, asking him to intervene in an independent country where Ahmadinejad was elected with extra 11 million votes against a puppet of corrupt businessman Rafsanji and asking him to discard the result of the election because “the people have come out and held peaceful rallies to protest electoral violations that amount to a drastic violation of their right to shape their future.”
Chomsky lies when calls the violent protests ‘peaceful rallies’ because as the videos shows the protesters, many from Mujahedeen and monarchist and other opposition groups who are financially supported by NED and other Western intelligent agencies were not only equipped with stones but also guns. Furthermore, these rallies were not legal and they had no permission. I want to ask Noam Chomsky, what would had happened if ‘anti war’ activist with hundreds bag of stones poured into the streets of US without permission? Do you think, Noam Chomsky, American police would had let thousands of protesters, many from terrorist organizations, to set fire on buses and cars and break glasses and kill the security guards, where more than 7 security guards were killed by the protesters?
On behalf of Iranian people I ask Chomsky and his Zionist friends STOP INTERFERING IN IRANIAN INTERNAL AFFAIRS, INSTEAD, EXPOSE THE ROLE OF NED AND PHONY NGOs who are at the service of US/Israel interests. You should fuc* off as soon as possible because your role is known to many around the world.
This letter also was signed by other zionist Jews including:
Howard Sinn, Boston University, Stephen Zunes, University of San Francisco ( a zionist who is involved with gene sharp center where brings color revolution), Cornel West, Princeton University (a zionist clown), Rabbi Michael Lerner, Tikkun Magazine, Ahmad Rashid, journalist, Pakistan (MI6-Mossad-CIA) agent, Martha Nussbaum, University of Chicago, Joshua Cohen, Stanford University, Nadine Gordimer, a zionist Jew who participated in the celebration of Israel at 60, 60 years of genocide in Palestine, ignoring many anti Zionists request not to participate, after the GAZA holocaust, Benjamin Barber, Senior Fellow, Demos, Richard J. Bernstein, New School University, John Esposito, Georgetown University, John Esposito, Georgetown University, Michael Walzer, Princeton University, Craig Calhoun, Social Science Research Council, Jose Casanova, Georgetown University, Marshall Berman, City University of New York, Jonathan Rosenbaum, Film Critic, Dale Eickelman, Dartmouth College, Mujeeb Khan, UC Berkeley, Louise Antony, University of Massachusetts, Laura Santos, University of Minho, Portugal, Awad Halabi, Wright State University, Dr. Byron Miller, University of Calgary, Canada, Augustus Richard Norton, Boston University (close to state department), Merle Goldman, Boston University, Eva Hoffman, writer, Larry Diamond, Stanford University (CIA agent) and many more enemy of Iranian people.

http://www.rsf.org/From-Akbar-Ganji-journalist-and.html

By: balkas b b

balkas b b — Thu, 13 Aug 2009 15:38:19 +0000

Dwilson,
the most astouding fact appears neglected by nearly all commentators or observers of what may be wrong in perhaps all societies:
the greatest and meanest enemy of man for some millennia had been man.

now one can write the holiest of constitutions, preach adherence to the holiest ethics, and talk and think forever about what befalls us, people as one will almost always choose money over doing what they selves recommend or hold holy.

and panhuman meaness, oppression, warfare is always used to obtain wealth and thru wealth power. And money will buy not only liars and deceivers but also killers.
and, voila, the mess is on and on and on!
so, chimps are indeed more honest and wiser than we are!

By: mary

mary — Thu, 13 Aug 2009 15:33:52 +0000

Hillary Clinton is so two faced and she speaks with a forked tongue when she speaks of democracy on her whistle stop tour of Africa. (What is she up to there?)

This is what she and her cronies have been up to in Honduras. I wouldn’t trust her an inch.
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At the center of that coup in the United States is the Clinton machine that in some kind of macabre power sharing agreement has taken US policy in this hemisphere hostage and off the track of what the President promised when running against Secretary Clinton for president in 2008.

Not only have we now got Clinton attorney Lanny Davis lobbying on behalf of the Honduran dictatorship before an administration whose central promise was that it would end the undue influence of lobbyists, but as journalist Bill Conroy documented this past weekend for Narco News, the US-funded Millenium Challenge Corp. – whose board of directors includes Secretary Clinton – poured $17 million into Honduras oligarch interests between April and July of this year.

While DC apparatchiks told us they had cut almost $20 million (about ten percent) of US aid to Honduras and put the rest on pause, Clinton’s Millenium Challenge Corp. (MCC) has been quietly replenishing those funds through the back door.

A Narco News review of deposits to the Honduran Central Bank reveals that since the June 28 coup d’etat – in a little over a month – MCC has subsidized the coup forces in Honduras with $6.5 million dollars.

Those payments arrived on these dates and in these amounts:

July 9: $0.9 million

July 16: $0.3 million

July 23: $3.7 million

July 30: $1.6 million

While it’s possible that the US President doesn’t know about this sabotage of his stated policy – a small Central American nation with a population smaller than that of New York City might not exactly be front and center of his attention – his Secretary of State is on the frickin’ board of directors of the entity that, we now know, has been quietly funding the coup even after it was consummated.
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US Secretary of State Clinton’s Micro-Management of the Corporation that Funds the Honduras Coup Regime
Records Demonstrate that the Secretary Has Hands-On Control of the Fund that Gave $6.5 Million to the Regime After the June 28 Coup

By Bill Conroy and Al Giordano
http://narcosphere.narconews.com/thefield/too-cute-half-honduras-mr-president

By: Dwilson540

Dwilson540 — Thu, 13 Aug 2009 14:32:08 +0000

As I read through the above and the comments I see the “ying and the yang” of the same argument. I’m a libertarian and I wonder how much of the above would have been avoided if people were simply left to be free, to trade with whom they choose, to pay their own way with their own labors, to live without the threat of force. There are no socialist utopias spawned of worker’s movements. There have been a lot of worker’s movements taken over by forces that have used them to gain power. May I suggest to the author and those writing above that they read the Declaration of Independence, perhaps one of the most powerful documents stating man’s right? Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness… This is the argument for government, and this is the argument for removing government when it steps over these bounds. May I suggest that everyone take a deep breath for a couple of days and really think about why we have governments and what is possible to go wrong when governments really go bad. To really understand the nature of man, why we have government, what the purpose of government is, what it can do and what is impossible for it to do one must understand philosophy and the nature of man. Otherwise it is possible to create an entire world based on false premises about the purpose of government and what it is supposed to do. May I suggest Locke, Smith, the Austrian economists, von Mises and Hayek? The entire continent of South and Central America has gone from one authoritarian government to another for 400+ years. Can we all agree that it isn’t working? It doesn’t make a great deal of difference if the government oppressing you is fascist, communist, socialist, or just the thug down the street. Freedom’s the thing. Look at man’s history over the last 10,000 or 12,000 years. Up until about 300 years ago it remained essentially the same for the “man in the street”, short and brutish. Ask yourself, “what happened”? May I suggest that an understanding of property rights and human rights took place that allowed for development? Has it been perfect, nope. Anyone want to go back to the year 5,000? I don’t think so. That’s enough from me, in closing again, find a quiet place and think.

By: b99

b99 — Thu, 13 Aug 2009 13:12:38 +0000

Don Hawkins – I’m sure a CNBC clerk started reading it – but as it was longer than 10 lines – stopped and moved on. They are looking for punchy summations, not lengthy analysis.

By: Don Hawkins

Don Hawkins — Thu, 13 Aug 2009 13:06:30 +0000

Ready to rumble? Remember calm at peace we have the truth and the knowledge. The people who don’t want to try are now also saying calm at peace they learned that from us and trust me these people are anything but calm at peace. More like completely insane, poisoned by arrogance, stupidity, paranoia and hatred of everything unlike themselves kind of easy to see. The time is Now and think of this as kind of a war calm at peace the truth the knowledge the darkside has just illusion and something called bullshit. I see where a tea party at the Capital so clever the darkside pitting one side against the other and the people who are organizing this do they care about us or the Earth well we are unlike themselves and that is a good thing. Just a few I have to admit are making it very hard to try.

We have just four months. Four months to secure the future of our planet. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon.

Of course we have a few more years but must start NOW.

By: Don Hawkins

Don Hawkins — Thu, 13 Aug 2009 12:10:21 +0000

Again sent this e-mail to CNBC and did they read it, who know’s all those zero’s and one’s.
KNOWING

Calm at peace,

Actually I think the Right has finally gone completely insane, poisoned by arrogance, stupidity, paranoia and hatred of everything unlike themselves, and that our species’ declining years will witness fascist rule come to the US, followed by global war, amidst ecological collapse. Mulga

We have just four months. Four months to secure the future of our planet. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon.

Is it true what the Secretary-General said? Well just on the off chance the science is correct and let’s go back a few years as an example. When the man they put on house arrest because he said the Earth is not the center of the Universe and we on the dot revolve around the Sun not the other way around is a good one. Have we come to more of an understanding today or do we see many poisoned by arrogance, stupidity, paranoia and hatred of everything unlike themselves? Remember one thing just on the off chance that the science is correct and what we see with our own eye’s what might happen? Because I think we know cap and trade does little to slow the problem and so far Copenhagen doesn’t look good as the thinking is the States is not doing it’s part as the climate bill a joke can’t even pass. Wall Street or for that matter Fox New’s what is the thinking on carbon, climate change, health care, and when it comes to the bank’s and all that money/debt the story is not as clear. If the science is correct somebody is going to look bad but wait it doesn’t matter as men clad in military fatigues, combat boots and what appears to be a flak jacket on the streets amidst ecological collapse followed by global war. Fascist rule more like no rule. In just six months for the thinkers among us who don’t have any skin in the game so to speak what might the witting be like. Promises to be the best of all time because that’s what it will be about all time and yes more illusion, it’s a hoax no you are a hoax and who wins, nobody. Just on the off chance there are other forces at play other than interest rates the actions so far and the endless nonsense academic on the dot. How about the day when we hear it’s to late wait don’t tell me stay diversified did you sign up for my news letter or get my new book read it then give it to a friend. Just a few things to talk about at the next wine party or dinner party with that get together among friends. Ann you look marvelous and there’s Glenn is that the Senator. Is that the way it work’s sort of in a World unlike themselves health care, climate change no but $200,000 bathroom so cool.

Don

By: Mulga Mumblebrain

Mulga Mumblebrain — Thu, 13 Aug 2009 03:47:53 +0000

Don, it’s not primarily intellectual crippling, it’s a question predominately of spiritual wickedness and psychopathology. The FoxNews robopaths, and their fellows here in Australia and throughout the Murdoch-Moloch archipelago and wherever the terminal Rightwing moral disease is found, are, in my opinion, little eruptions of Evil from the great magma chamber of wickedness that is the human subconscious. And dan e, forgive me, but I did not make clear that I agree with you that Obama is the greatest phoney, the biggest con-man yet in US politics (which is saying something). His healthcare proposals are, as you say,a scam, and the ‘good cop, bad cop’ fraud is being run, that is for sure, while elite rule hardens. But I do believe that the ultra-Right, the FoxNews asylum and its carpet-chewing inmates in particular, do sincerely detest Obama, and, more to the point, they see mobilising a basically racist movement rooted in hysterical hatred, as conducive to their social and political goals. Actually I think the Right has finally gone completely insane, poisoned by arrogance, stupidity, paranoia and hatred of everything unlike themselves, and that our species’ declining years will witness fascist rule come to the US, followed by global war, amidst ecological collapse. The roots of human destructiveness lie deep in our psyches and I think the age-old effort to suppress them and turn instead to constructive relations and human amity amongst all people has comprehensively failed.

By: dan e

dan e — Thu, 13 Aug 2009 02:37:51 +0000

Mulga I’m surprised at you. Apparently you fail to see through the scam that’s being run, the Healthcare goodcop/badcop gambit. The rightwing scream about Obama being too far left functions to legitimize his actually reactionary policies.

Then you have the “left” critics of Obama who say “Medicare for All”, ignoring that Medicare has zero dental benefits, zero Vision Care, sticks you with straight Ambien, a low-quality medication but won’t pay for Ambien CR which is far preferable, etc etc.

I thought Ward Connelly and Clarence Thomas were bad, but Obama is worse, the slimy sonofabitch. Makes Willibrown look like a Hero of the People.
Mary Ratcliff has it right in the current SF Bay View: Cynthia McKinney is today’s Paul Robeson.

B.O. Bama is a piece of shit.

By: Don Hawkins

Don Hawkins — Thu, 13 Aug 2009 01:32:08 +0000

Corrupt and intellectually crippled without a dough and completely addicted to the system. I see no other explanation kind of a self inducted brainwashing. It must be strange to be that way only limited to themselves and a few others of like thinking. Please sign up for my new’s letter and did you get my book. We must take America back. Back to where? The good old day’s on the same path that got us here. Some just might call that insanity. We have just four months. Four months to secure the future of our planet Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon. Is that true? For the World so called leaders it is. The witting in say six month’s from not Corrupt and intellectually crippled clown’s but thinkers promises to be the best of all time because that is what it will be about all time. Yesterday on Fox Neil Cavuto said about the Volt that gets 230 mpg where do you plug it in? What do you think intellectually crippled? Where do you plug it in?