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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
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		<description>And so far how will this play out.  &quot;Mrs. President the rocket&#039;s are ready&quot;.  &quot;Awaiting your order for stratospheric aerosol injection&quot;.  &quot;May God help us give the order&quot;.</description>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
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		<description>Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon
Incheon (Republic of Korea)
11 August 2009
Remarks to the Global Environment Forum 
Honourable Ahn Sang-Soo, Mayor of Incheon Metropolitan City, 
Honourable Mr. Ko Kun, Co-Chairman of the global Enviroment Forum,
Honourable Mr. Lee Man-yi, Minister of Environment,
Distinguished guests, Ladies and gentlemen, Dear Friends,
It is a great privilege for me to participate in this global Environment Forum. 
Let me begin by offering my sincere congratulations to Mayor Ahn and the the citizens of the Metropolitan City of Incheon.
Environment Forum as well as the Global Fair and Festival 2009, you show true global vision ? vision that underlines the importance of local government and cities in coping with the challenges of the 21st century.
Ladies and gentlemen,
As you know, Incheon is famous as the gateway to Korea. 
But here today, I am especially proud as UN Secretary-General – and a Korean citizen – to be able to say that Incheon is also a gateway to our common future.
The very fact that this most important Forum meets here today testifies to that.
The Songdo Convensia is one of the world&#039;s most green convention centres. And it is located in one of the world&#039;s most eco-friendly cities. 
Songdo is remarkable not only for what it has become but for what it used to be.
People who grew up here remember the smokestacks and toxic fumes. 
In a few short decades, these have given way to clean buildings and clear skies. 
We are here today to recognize the connections between us and deal with a common problem. Of this, too, Songdo is a symbol and key.
I understand that Songdo modeled itself on the Swedish sister city of Hammarby Sjostad (SCHÖ-stad). 
That city, too, used to be an industrial site before it transformed itself through ecofriendly development. 
These two cities – one in Europe, the other in Asia – show visionary civic leadership. They understand that we have a choice: adapt or perish.
It is that simple. 
Other cities around the world are taking this enlightened approach. Reykjavik in Iceland? Curitiba in Brazil... Kampala in Uganda... Sydney in Australia.
Whenever I visit these places, I am impressed. 
People everywhere are accepting that we must all live cleaner, greener, more sustainable lives. This is our future.
I must admit that, as a Korean, Songdo occupies a special place in my heart.
It helps show how Korea has emerged as a world leader on greening the economy.
Some 80 per cent of Korea&#039;s $38 billion national stimulus package is dedicated to green growth? the highest percentage in the world.
Nearly a million green jobs will be created in the coming four years.
This represents a fundamental shift in Korea&#039;s approach to building national prosperity.
I applaud this progress. I commend the visionary leadership of President Lee Myung Bak of Korea.
But Korea must do more.
The world is looking to Korea for leadership. This powerful emerging economy can serve as a bridge between developed and developing countries. 
But to do this, Korea must set ambitious goals for reducing its own emissions.
I understand that the Korean Government is now seriously considering amending the mid-term target to reduce greenhouse gas emissions.
As the Minister of Environment said, the Korean Government is now is considering three options.
As Secretary-General of the United Nations, I urge you to aim high – be more ambitious commensurate with your economic development.
Korea long inspired others with its comeback spirit of renewal. After the Second World War, it arose to become one of the world&#039;s strongest economies. 
Songdo was an industrial wasteland, but it transformed itself into one of the world&#039;s greenest cities. 
Korea should now go further. 
It should make itself a model of international engagement on climate change. Climate change, as all previous speakers have already stated, is the fundamental threat to humankind.
It exacerbates all of the problems we face: poverty, disease, hunger and insecurity. It impedes progress toward the Millennium Development Goals. It deepens the food and energy crises.
That is the harsh reality.
But there is an upside: if we combat climate change with a sustainable, low-emissions approach, just like we see around us in Songdo, we can change the way countries develop.
We can foster a green economy and green growth.
We can fight hunger and poverty while protecting the environment. 
The downside is equally dramatic.
If we fail to act, climate change will intensify droughts, floods and other natural disasters.
Water shortages will affect hundreds of millions of people. Malnutrition will engulf large parts of the developing world. Tensions will worsen. Social unrest – even violence – could follow. 
The damage to national economies will be enormous. The human suffering will be incalculable. 
We have the power to change course. But we must do it now. 
As we move toward Copenhagen in December, we must “Seal a Deal” on climate change that secures our common future. I&#039;m glad that the Chairman of the forum and many other speakers have used my campaign slogan “Seal the Deal” in Copenhagen. I won&#039;t charge them loyalty. Please use this “Seal the Deal” as widely as possible, as much as you can. We must seal the deal in Copenhagen for the future of humanity.
We have just four months. Four months to secure the future of our planet.
Any agreement must be fair, effective, equitable and comprehensive, and based on science. And it must help vulnerable nations adapt to climate change.
Ladies and gentlemen,
The science is clear. We know what to do and we know how to do it. Songdo shows us the way. 
What is needed is the political will. We have the capacity. We have finance. We have the technology. The largest lacking is political will. That is why I will convey some meetings focused on climate change. I have invited all the leaders of the world including President Lee.
Two years ago, only a handful of world leaders could talk about climate change.
Today, leaders of all the world, all the countries on every continent are aware of the threats we face now.
This is great progress, for we need leadership of the very highest order. 
Awareness is the first step. The challenge now is to act.
Since my first day as Secretary-General, I have spoken out about the grave climate change threat. 
My words, at times, have been blunt.
When the leaders of the G-8 agreed in July to keep the global temperature increase within two degrees centigrade by the year 2050, that was welcomed and I welcome that statement. 
But I also said again, it was not enough. 
But leaders have agreed to cut green house gas emissions by 80 per cent by 2050. That is welcomed again. But that must be accompanied by the ambitious mid-term target by 2020 as science tells us to do. There I said, while I applaud their commitment, that is not enough.
I called for matching these long-term goals with ambitious mid-term emission reduction targets. 
Let me be clear about what we need to do.
There are four points [of] very important key political issues.
First industrialized countries must lead by committing to binding mid-term reduction targets on the order of 25 to 40 per cent below 1990 levels. 
Unfortunately, the mid-term emission targets announced so far are not close enough to this range. This must change. That is why I am urging at this time, that the Korean government should take more ambitious targets.
Second, developing countries need to take nationally appropriate mitigation actions in order to reduce the growth in their emissions substantially below business as usual. 
Their actions must be measurable, reportable and verifiable.
Third, developed countries must provide sufficient, measurable, reportable and verifiable financial and technological support to developing countries.
This will allow developing countries to pursue their mitigation efforts as part of their sustainable green growth strategies and to adapt to accelerating climate impacts.
Significant resources will be needed from both public and private sources. 
Developing countries, especially the most vulnerable, will collectively need billions of dollars in public financing for adaptation. 
I am talking here about new money – not re-packaged Official Development Assistance. This is one of the most important issues which we are going to discuss on September 22nd in New York, and this year again at the G20 Summit Meeting in Pittsburgh on September 24th.
Fourth, we need an equitable and accountable mechanism for distributing these financial and technological resources, taking into account the views of all countries in decision-making. 
Accomplishing all of this requires tough decisions. It will take flexibility and hard work to negotiate the most difficult issues.
Trust between developed and developing countries is essential.
When governments succeed in sealing a deal in Copenhagen, we will have shown the spirit of international solidarity. We will have shown leadership – political will.
Distinguished participants,
The city of Incheon has a remarkable history.
Here, in 1950, the Korean war came to a famous turning point, following a daring landing by UN forces.
Against all the odds, the operation succeeded. Courage and leadership turned the tide.
Today, we need to turn a different tide – the tide of climate change. We need bold “outside of the box” thinking.
We need your support and cooperation.
You can shape the international debate and influence important decisions.
You can encourage countries to work together.
I promise you my best effort as Secretary-General of the United Nations -- my best effort to push, pull and cajole national leaders into acting in our common global interest.
Together, we truly can turn the tide, once again, here in Incheon.
I need your support, your commitment, and your leadership.
Thank you very much.

   The next six months we will see then ---------------</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon<br />
Incheon (Republic of Korea)<br />
11 August 2009<br />
Remarks to the Global Environment Forum<br />
Honourable Ahn Sang-Soo, Mayor of Incheon Metropolitan City,<br />
Honourable Mr. Ko Kun, Co-Chairman of the global Enviroment Forum,<br />
Honourable Mr. Lee Man-yi, Minister of Environment,<br />
Distinguished guests, Ladies and gentlemen, Dear Friends,<br />
It is a great privilege for me to participate in this global Environment Forum.<br />
Let me begin by offering my sincere congratulations to Mayor Ahn and the the citizens of the Metropolitan City of Incheon.<br />
Environment Forum as well as the Global Fair and Festival 2009, you show true global vision ? vision that underlines the importance of local government and cities in coping with the challenges of the 21st century.<br />
Ladies and gentlemen,<br />
As you know, Incheon is famous as the gateway to Korea.<br />
But here today, I am especially proud as UN Secretary-General – and a Korean citizen – to be able to say that Incheon is also a gateway to our common future.<br />
The very fact that this most important Forum meets here today testifies to that.<br />
The Songdo Convensia is one of the world&#8217;s most green convention centres. And it is located in one of the world&#8217;s most eco-friendly cities.<br />
Songdo is remarkable not only for what it has become but for what it used to be.<br />
People who grew up here remember the smokestacks and toxic fumes.<br />
In a few short decades, these have given way to clean buildings and clear skies.<br />
We are here today to recognize the connections between us and deal with a common problem. Of this, too, Songdo is a symbol and key.<br />
I understand that Songdo modeled itself on the Swedish sister city of Hammarby Sjostad (SCHÖ-stad).<br />
That city, too, used to be an industrial site before it transformed itself through ecofriendly development.<br />
These two cities – one in Europe, the other in Asia – show visionary civic leadership. They understand that we have a choice: adapt or perish.<br />
It is that simple.<br />
Other cities around the world are taking this enlightened approach. Reykjavik in Iceland? Curitiba in Brazil&#8230; Kampala in Uganda&#8230; Sydney in Australia.<br />
Whenever I visit these places, I am impressed.<br />
People everywhere are accepting that we must all live cleaner, greener, more sustainable lives. This is our future.<br />
I must admit that, as a Korean, Songdo occupies a special place in my heart.<br />
It helps show how Korea has emerged as a world leader on greening the economy.<br />
Some 80 per cent of Korea&#8217;s $38 billion national stimulus package is dedicated to green growth? the highest percentage in the world.<br />
Nearly a million green jobs will be created in the coming four years.<br />
This represents a fundamental shift in Korea&#8217;s approach to building national prosperity.<br />
I applaud this progress. I commend the visionary leadership of President Lee Myung Bak of Korea.<br />
But Korea must do more.<br />
The world is looking to Korea for leadership. This powerful emerging economy can serve as a bridge between developed and developing countries.<br />
But to do this, Korea must set ambitious goals for reducing its own emissions.<br />
I understand that the Korean Government is now seriously considering amending the mid-term target to reduce greenhouse gas emissions.<br />
As the Minister of Environment said, the Korean Government is now is considering three options.<br />
As Secretary-General of the United Nations, I urge you to aim high – be more ambitious commensurate with your economic development.<br />
Korea long inspired others with its comeback spirit of renewal. After the Second World War, it arose to become one of the world&#8217;s strongest economies.<br />
Songdo was an industrial wasteland, but it transformed itself into one of the world&#8217;s greenest cities.<br />
Korea should now go further.<br />
It should make itself a model of international engagement on climate change. Climate change, as all previous speakers have already stated, is the fundamental threat to humankind.<br />
It exacerbates all of the problems we face: poverty, disease, hunger and insecurity. It impedes progress toward the Millennium Development Goals. It deepens the food and energy crises.<br />
That is the harsh reality.<br />
But there is an upside: if we combat climate change with a sustainable, low-emissions approach, just like we see around us in Songdo, we can change the way countries develop.<br />
We can foster a green economy and green growth.<br />
We can fight hunger and poverty while protecting the environment.<br />
The downside is equally dramatic.<br />
If we fail to act, climate change will intensify droughts, floods and other natural disasters.<br />
Water shortages will affect hundreds of millions of people. Malnutrition will engulf large parts of the developing world. Tensions will worsen. Social unrest – even violence – could follow.<br />
The damage to national economies will be enormous. The human suffering will be incalculable.<br />
We have the power to change course. But we must do it now.<br />
As we move toward Copenhagen in December, we must “Seal a Deal” on climate change that secures our common future. I&#8217;m glad that the Chairman of the forum and many other speakers have used my campaign slogan “Seal the Deal” in Copenhagen. I won&#8217;t charge them loyalty. Please use this “Seal the Deal” as widely as possible, as much as you can. We must seal the deal in Copenhagen for the future of humanity.<br />
We have just four months. Four months to secure the future of our planet.<br />
Any agreement must be fair, effective, equitable and comprehensive, and based on science. And it must help vulnerable nations adapt to climate change.<br />
Ladies and gentlemen,<br />
The science is clear. We know what to do and we know how to do it. Songdo shows us the way.<br />
What is needed is the political will. We have the capacity. We have finance. We have the technology. The largest lacking is political will. That is why I will convey some meetings focused on climate change. I have invited all the leaders of the world including President Lee.<br />
Two years ago, only a handful of world leaders could talk about climate change.<br />
Today, leaders of all the world, all the countries on every continent are aware of the threats we face now.<br />
This is great progress, for we need leadership of the very highest order.<br />
Awareness is the first step. The challenge now is to act.<br />
Since my first day as Secretary-General, I have spoken out about the grave climate change threat.<br />
My words, at times, have been blunt.<br />
When the leaders of the G-8 agreed in July to keep the global temperature increase within two degrees centigrade by the year 2050, that was welcomed and I welcome that statement.<br />
But I also said again, it was not enough.<br />
But leaders have agreed to cut green house gas emissions by 80 per cent by 2050. That is welcomed again. But that must be accompanied by the ambitious mid-term target by 2020 as science tells us to do. There I said, while I applaud their commitment, that is not enough.<br />
I called for matching these long-term goals with ambitious mid-term emission reduction targets.<br />
Let me be clear about what we need to do.<br />
There are four points [of] very important key political issues.<br />
First industrialized countries must lead by committing to binding mid-term reduction targets on the order of 25 to 40 per cent below 1990 levels.<br />
Unfortunately, the mid-term emission targets announced so far are not close enough to this range. This must change. That is why I am urging at this time, that the Korean government should take more ambitious targets.<br />
Second, developing countries need to take nationally appropriate mitigation actions in order to reduce the growth in their emissions substantially below business as usual.<br />
Their actions must be measurable, reportable and verifiable.<br />
Third, developed countries must provide sufficient, measurable, reportable and verifiable financial and technological support to developing countries.<br />
This will allow developing countries to pursue their mitigation efforts as part of their sustainable green growth strategies and to adapt to accelerating climate impacts.<br />
Significant resources will be needed from both public and private sources.<br />
Developing countries, especially the most vulnerable, will collectively need billions of dollars in public financing for adaptation.<br />
I am talking here about new money – not re-packaged Official Development Assistance. This is one of the most important issues which we are going to discuss on September 22nd in New York, and this year again at the G20 Summit Meeting in Pittsburgh on September 24th.<br />
Fourth, we need an equitable and accountable mechanism for distributing these financial and technological resources, taking into account the views of all countries in decision-making.<br />
Accomplishing all of this requires tough decisions. It will take flexibility and hard work to negotiate the most difficult issues.<br />
Trust between developed and developing countries is essential.<br />
When governments succeed in sealing a deal in Copenhagen, we will have shown the spirit of international solidarity. We will have shown leadership – political will.<br />
Distinguished participants,<br />
The city of Incheon has a remarkable history.<br />
Here, in 1950, the Korean war came to a famous turning point, following a daring landing by UN forces.<br />
Against all the odds, the operation succeeded. Courage and leadership turned the tide.<br />
Today, we need to turn a different tide – the tide of climate change. We need bold “outside of the box” thinking.<br />
We need your support and cooperation.<br />
You can shape the international debate and influence important decisions.<br />
You can encourage countries to work together.<br />
I promise you my best effort as Secretary-General of the United Nations &#8212; my best effort to push, pull and cajole national leaders into acting in our common global interest.<br />
Together, we truly can turn the tide, once again, here in Incheon.<br />
I need your support, your commitment, and your leadership.<br />
Thank you very much.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/08/hollywood-is-burning/#comment-51860</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 15:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael, where you living? You make very very important points--i don&#039;t think you know how important. NATO troops have been entering the US now for a little while. Knowing the US has a very negative image worldwide, I figured the reason for these troops being deployed to the US was because enforcing the military state here would cause them little grief, whereas US troops wouldn&#039;t be as hardline domestically. The NATO troops already think of us as  &quot;criminals, perverts, screwballs, racists, bullies, ignoramuses and bigots.&quot;

My logic isn&#039;t perfect, but there is an element of truth to that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael, where you living? You make very very important points&#8211;i don&#8217;t think you know how important. NATO troops have been entering the US now for a little while. Knowing the US has a very negative image worldwide, I figured the reason for these troops being deployed to the US was because enforcing the military state here would cause them little grief, whereas US troops wouldn&#8217;t be as hardline domestically. The NATO troops already think of us as  &#8220;criminals, perverts, screwballs, racists, bullies, ignoramuses and bigots.&#8221;</p>
<p>My logic isn&#8217;t perfect, but there is an element of truth to that.</p>
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		<title>By: b99</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/08/hollywood-is-burning/#comment-51857</link>
		<dc:creator>b99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 14:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, Annie&#039;s a National Geographic reader!</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Kenny</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/08/hollywood-is-burning/#comment-51855</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Kenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 13:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as Europe is concerned, what is interesting is the way in which the Hollywood &quot;message&quot; has actually shot itself in the foot. &quot;Awe&quot; is a very good word to describe the way in which we regarded the US during my 1950s childhood. Vietnam changed that and except for a slight rise during the Clinton years, the US has been negatively perceived in Europe ever since. Indeed, even those whom US political mythology classifies as &quot;pro-American&quot; would not want to see Europe become &quot;like&quot; the US. The cause has been much more TV series than films. Hollywood&#039;s TV output, both fiction and reality shows, has created an image of an America peopled by criminals, perverts, screwballs, racists, bullies, ignoramuses and bigots. Not a pretty picture! The European media, influenced by Hollywood, have gone looking for this &quot;reality&quot; and, of course, have found it and have confirmed the negative image peddled by Hollywood. Propaganda is a two-edged sword!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as Europe is concerned, what is interesting is the way in which the Hollywood &#8220;message&#8221; has actually shot itself in the foot. &#8220;Awe&#8221; is a very good word to describe the way in which we regarded the US during my 1950s childhood. Vietnam changed that and except for a slight rise during the Clinton years, the US has been negatively perceived in Europe ever since. Indeed, even those whom US political mythology classifies as &#8220;pro-American&#8221; would not want to see Europe become &#8220;like&#8221; the US. The cause has been much more TV series than films. Hollywood&#8217;s TV output, both fiction and reality shows, has created an image of an America peopled by criminals, perverts, screwballs, racists, bullies, ignoramuses and bigots. Not a pretty picture! The European media, influenced by Hollywood, have gone looking for this &#8220;reality&#8221; and, of course, have found it and have confirmed the negative image peddled by Hollywood. Propaganda is a two-edged sword!</p>
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		<title>By: Annie Ladysmith</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/08/hollywood-is-burning/#comment-51830</link>
		<dc:creator>Annie Ladysmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 01:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hollywoo-is-burning, that is great news, when can we expect to dump the ashes in the Pacific??  I won&#039;t believe it until i see the ashes.
Actually, for all you global-warming-alarmists who bow down your minds to your patron saint Al, i&#039;v got a tidbit for you:  Yellowstone is going to blow WAY before the ice caps melt, it&#039;s already bulging the lake out of it&#039;s socket.  Can&#039;t ya find someone to save the volcano...that&#039;s a cause i could believe in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hollywoo-is-burning, that is great news, when can we expect to dump the ashes in the Pacific??  I won&#8217;t believe it until i see the ashes.<br />
Actually, for all you global-warming-alarmists who bow down your minds to your patron saint Al, i&#8217;v got a tidbit for you:  Yellowstone is going to blow WAY before the ice caps melt, it&#8217;s already bulging the lake out of it&#8217;s socket.  Can&#8217;t ya find someone to save the volcano&#8230;that&#8217;s a cause i could believe in.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/08/hollywood-is-burning/#comment-51829</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 01:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unless we see World leaders step up and face the problem for what it is the end of the human race and the knowledge we have gained and much of that in just the last fifty years not a good ending to the movie. The path so far is band-aids and not even that.  To try for real requires a Herculean effort harder than say World War Two. When James Hansen said think of this as kind of a war he knew then a few years ago what it would take.  Hansen is not alone all the great minds we have today know and also know the path we are on not a good ending.  I have written before that if we don&#039;t see Obama give that people of Earth we are in deep do do speech before 2012 and sooner would be better again not a good ending.  So far the policy makers I see don&#039;t have the knowledge to try and need to ask for help from the people who do.  To try is like a war without the bombs but knowledge and some very cool smart minds in all Countries working together. Can it be done maybe but we will never find out unless we try and so far that is not happening. Not only do the leaders have to face the truth but so do we.  Granted there are many so called leaders, elites who just don&#039;t care.  Well I still feel that people of Earth we are in deep do do could be very helpful. It looks like first Denmark then the climate bill in the States so if nothing else the witting in say the first part of 2010 will be interesting to say the least and the problem itself will be showing itself more.  Without the do do speech how many people will know many.  Anyway how much money did Bank of America get to keep going and how much money over ten years in the climate bill not to keep the Earth going but us human&#039;s with just a little bit bigger brain than let&#039;s see apes. Yes by all means we need to keep the bank&#039;s going sorry that thinking is academic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unless we see World leaders step up and face the problem for what it is the end of the human race and the knowledge we have gained and much of that in just the last fifty years not a good ending to the movie. The path so far is band-aids and not even that.  To try for real requires a Herculean effort harder than say World War Two. When James Hansen said think of this as kind of a war he knew then a few years ago what it would take.  Hansen is not alone all the great minds we have today know and also know the path we are on not a good ending.  I have written before that if we don&#8217;t see Obama give that people of Earth we are in deep do do speech before 2012 and sooner would be better again not a good ending.  So far the policy makers I see don&#8217;t have the knowledge to try and need to ask for help from the people who do.  To try is like a war without the bombs but knowledge and some very cool smart minds in all Countries working together. Can it be done maybe but we will never find out unless we try and so far that is not happening. Not only do the leaders have to face the truth but so do we.  Granted there are many so called leaders, elites who just don&#8217;t care.  Well I still feel that people of Earth we are in deep do do could be very helpful. It looks like first Denmark then the climate bill in the States so if nothing else the witting in say the first part of 2010 will be interesting to say the least and the problem itself will be showing itself more.  Without the do do speech how many people will know many.  Anyway how much money did Bank of America get to keep going and how much money over ten years in the climate bill not to keep the Earth going but us human&#8217;s with just a little bit bigger brain than let&#8217;s see apes. Yes by all means we need to keep the bank&#8217;s going sorry that thinking is academic.</p>
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		<title>By: bidrec</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/08/hollywood-is-burning/#comment-51826</link>
		<dc:creator>bidrec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 00:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You make an interesting point.  It was actually Cantor Fitzgerald that made what looks like naked short selling possible.

&quot;Ian Schneider was a Senior Managing Director at Cantor Fitzgerald .... In 1990, Ian recognized that securities lending could be separated from a pure custody product and developed a non-custodial securities lending agency business at Cantor. In 1992, Ian identified Stephen Dimino as the person to develop and run the securities lending agency business. Ian and Stephen were both Partners at Cantor...Stephen and Ian were instrumental in developing third party lending capabilities...&quot; http://tinyurl.com/kly2d4


There can be no naked shorting because of the &quot;concern that agent lenders have regarding the risk of disintermediation &quot;  http://tinyurl.com/mhy6b4  See, anyone who shorts without borrowing is cutting out &quot;legitimate&quot; lending agents.

Instead there are naked long sales because the lender &quot;never relinquishes ownership, the [lender] can sell the securities at any time.&quot;  Even if they are on loan to someone else and he does not have them.  http://tinyurl.com/n9teyh

Thank you for giving me the opportunity to contribute.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You make an interesting point.  It was actually Cantor Fitzgerald that made what looks like naked short selling possible.</p>
<p>&#8220;Ian Schneider was a Senior Managing Director at Cantor Fitzgerald &#8230;. In 1990, Ian recognized that securities lending could be separated from a pure custody product and developed a non-custodial securities lending agency business at Cantor. In 1992, Ian identified Stephen Dimino as the person to develop and run the securities lending agency business. Ian and Stephen were both Partners at Cantor&#8230;Stephen and Ian were instrumental in developing third party lending capabilities&#8230;&#8221; <a href="http://tinyurl.com/kly2d4" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/kly2d4</a></p>
<p>There can be no naked shorting because of the &#8220;concern that agent lenders have regarding the risk of disintermediation &#8221;  <a href="http://tinyurl.com/mhy6b4" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/mhy6b4</a>  See, anyone who shorts without borrowing is cutting out &#8220;legitimate&#8221; lending agents.</p>
<p>Instead there are naked long sales because the lender &#8220;never relinquishes ownership, the [lender] can sell the securities at any time.&#8221;  Even if they are on loan to someone else and he does not have them.  <a href="http://tinyurl.com/n9teyh" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/n9teyh</a></p>
<p>Thank you for giving me the opportunity to contribute.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/08/hollywood-is-burning/#comment-51823</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 23:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey don, also, i&#039;ve read that the midwest-where we have produced much of our food-is going fallow, whilst Russia&#039;s interior will become fertile. Again, there are ways to avert the disaster, but unfortunately the global political awakening must quicken and quicken fast. 

Dog food factories in India need to convert to human food, now. And the media blackout in regards to Africa implies economic warfare/genocide hitting that region hard. I maintain we can feed six and a half billion people reasonably well, for now.  I know that sounds cargoistic--that technology, etc can get us out of this--but we handle our resources atrociously, and the uberclass is greedy as all hell. 

Thank you for your comments,
Justin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey don, also, i&#8217;ve read that the midwest-where we have produced much of our food-is going fallow, whilst Russia&#8217;s interior will become fertile. Again, there are ways to avert the disaster, but unfortunately the global political awakening must quicken and quicken fast. </p>
<p>Dog food factories in India need to convert to human food, now. And the media blackout in regards to Africa implies economic warfare/genocide hitting that region hard. I maintain we can feed six and a half billion people reasonably well, for now.  I know that sounds cargoistic&#8211;that technology, etc can get us out of this&#8211;but we handle our resources atrociously, and the uberclass is greedy as all hell. </p>
<p>Thank you for your comments,<br />
Justin</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/08/hollywood-is-burning/#comment-51822</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 23:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hello Don,

were rational measures taken, it seems to me climate disaster could be averted; for instance, much of the worlds agricultural centers ought to move north. During the Global Cimate Optimum between 900 and 1300, viticulture thrived in England, where it has not thrived since.

Further, science is inherently contradictory. There is plenty of evidence showing that the earth is cooling and dimming--dimmed by thirty percent in fifty years. 

The legislation being passed by global state-enterprises are austerity measures for the underclass; in effect, the hoarding of resources by the rich.

Do you disagree?

Justin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hello Don,</p>
<p>were rational measures taken, it seems to me climate disaster could be averted; for instance, much of the worlds agricultural centers ought to move north. During the Global Cimate Optimum between 900 and 1300, viticulture thrived in England, where it has not thrived since.</p>
<p>Further, science is inherently contradictory. There is plenty of evidence showing that the earth is cooling and dimming&#8211;dimmed by thirty percent in fifty years. </p>
<p>The legislation being passed by global state-enterprises are austerity measures for the underclass; in effect, the hoarding of resources by the rich.</p>
<p>Do you disagree?</p>
<p>Justin</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/08/hollywood-is-burning/#comment-51820</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 23:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Justin that was well put.  By portraying on the big screen a world on the edge, when, in fact, the world is on the edge, engineers in Hollywood predispose audiences to accept extreme austerity and catastrophe, causing them even to expect it, as opposed to sacrificing the crazy-quilt lifestyle of society for true human community and overcoming. A process of gradual and subtle inculcation, predictive programming creates an environment in which feedback loops of expectations generate a self-fulfilling prophecy.  

   Check this out forecast for precipitation Worldwide.  India a bit of trouble.  Australia forget about it no rain and in the states slower but on the way.  California this coming January to about April probably to much rain and I mean way to much rain then back to dry.  Yes Hollywood in a bit of trouble but won&#039;t have to spend much on special effect&#039;s in the coming years. The Southwest and great plains first for major changes.      


http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/analysis_monitoring/lanina/images/glbPrecMonNorm.gif</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justin that was well put.  By portraying on the big screen a world on the edge, when, in fact, the world is on the edge, engineers in Hollywood predispose audiences to accept extreme austerity and catastrophe, causing them even to expect it, as opposed to sacrificing the crazy-quilt lifestyle of society for true human community and overcoming. A process of gradual and subtle inculcation, predictive programming creates an environment in which feedback loops of expectations generate a self-fulfilling prophecy.  </p>
<p>   Check this out forecast for precipitation Worldwide.  India a bit of trouble.  Australia forget about it no rain and in the states slower but on the way.  California this coming January to about April probably to much rain and I mean way to much rain then back to dry.  Yes Hollywood in a bit of trouble but won&#8217;t have to spend much on special effect&#8217;s in the coming years. The Southwest and great plains first for major changes.      </p>
<p><a href="http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/analysis_monitoring/lanina/images/glbPrecMonNorm.gif" rel="nofollow">http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/analysis_monitoring/lanina/images/glbPrecMonNorm.gif</a></p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/08/hollywood-is-burning/#comment-51819</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 22:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not on Two Celsius Track 
   
BONN, Germany (Reuters) &quot;We are absolutely not on track&quot; to stay below two degrees Celsius, de Boer said. 
    Temperatures have risen by 0.7 Celsius in the past century and the U.N. Climate Panel projects further rises that will spur heatwaves, droughts, floods, and raise world sea levels. 
    New Zealand on Monday set a goal of cutting carbon emissions by between 10 and 20 percent by 2020 below 1990 levels, but said the targets hinged on goals by other nations in Copenhagen. 
    &quot;It&#039;s a long way below the levels of ambition needed,&quot; said Kim Carstensen, leader of the WWF environment group&#039;s global climate initiative, said of New Zealand&#039;s goal. 
    Developing nations such as China and India want the rich to cut by at least 40 percent below 1990 levels by 2020. Average cuts outlined so far work out at about 10-14 percent. 
    Michael Zammit Cutajar, chairing talks on the 200-page text, said that roughly 30 pages would be a goal for the document&#039;s length by the end of the meeting in Bangkok. 
    De Boer said that there was still a willingness to reach an agreement despite recession that has made many countries unwilling to do more to cut emissions. &quot;There&#039;s still a huge political will to come to an agreement in Copenhagen,&quot; he said. 
    Developing nations also said it was vital to have more talks on the financing of any deal in Copenhagen. African nations, for instance, say that at least $267 billion a year will be needed by 2020 to help the poor combat climate change. 
    With time pressing, Elliot Diringer of the Pew Center on Global Climate Change said Copenhagen would, at best, agree a framework for a deal with many details to be filled in later. 
    And he said it was &quot;highly unlikely&quot; that the U.S. Congress would agree on a climate bill by Copenhagen. 

        Just can&#039;t get it together.   

 James Lovelock: It&#039;s like the pre-World War II calm in Britain when I was a young man. No one did anything until bombs began to fall. We really don&#039;t notice climate change; it seems theoretical to most of us. When the first great climate disaster strikes, I hope we will all pull together just as if our nation was being invaded. 

              Of course the time is NOW and yet here in the States just nonsense.    Long long long speech&#039;s and the subject illusion.</description>
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<p>BONN, Germany (Reuters) &#8220;We are absolutely not on track&#8221; to stay below two degrees Celsius, de Boer said.<br />
    Temperatures have risen by 0.7 Celsius in the past century and the U.N. Climate Panel projects further rises that will spur heatwaves, droughts, floods, and raise world sea levels.<br />
    New Zealand on Monday set a goal of cutting carbon emissions by between 10 and 20 percent by 2020 below 1990 levels, but said the targets hinged on goals by other nations in Copenhagen.<br />
    &#8220;It&#8217;s a long way below the levels of ambition needed,&#8221; said Kim Carstensen, leader of the WWF environment group&#8217;s global climate initiative, said of New Zealand&#8217;s goal.<br />
    Developing nations such as China and India want the rich to cut by at least 40 percent below 1990 levels by 2020. Average cuts outlined so far work out at about 10-14 percent.<br />
    Michael Zammit Cutajar, chairing talks on the 200-page text, said that roughly 30 pages would be a goal for the document&#8217;s length by the end of the meeting in Bangkok.<br />
    De Boer said that there was still a willingness to reach an agreement despite recession that has made many countries unwilling to do more to cut emissions. &#8220;There&#8217;s still a huge political will to come to an agreement in Copenhagen,&#8221; he said.<br />
    Developing nations also said it was vital to have more talks on the financing of any deal in Copenhagen. African nations, for instance, say that at least $267 billion a year will be needed by 2020 to help the poor combat climate change.<br />
    With time pressing, Elliot Diringer of the Pew Center on Global Climate Change said Copenhagen would, at best, agree a framework for a deal with many details to be filled in later.<br />
    And he said it was &#8220;highly unlikely&#8221; that the U.S. Congress would agree on a climate bill by Copenhagen. </p>
<p>        Just can&#8217;t get it together.   </p>
<p> James Lovelock: It&#8217;s like the pre-World War II calm in Britain when I was a young man. No one did anything until bombs began to fall. We really don&#8217;t notice climate change; it seems theoretical to most of us. When the first great climate disaster strikes, I hope we will all pull together just as if our nation was being invaded. </p>
<p>              Of course the time is NOW and yet here in the States just nonsense.    Long long long speech&#8217;s and the subject illusion.</p>
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