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		<title>By: Wingnut</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/08/free-speech-in-pittsburgh-a-test/#comment-53234</link>
		<dc:creator>Wingnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 15:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Valid point, Ron.  Your use of &quot;have to&quot; is the key phrase.  In a way, you must defend yourselves against the feared, attacking, cost of living.  And if one were to reword &quot;cost of living&quot;, one COULD use &quot;cost of remaining alive on the planet&quot;.  Its a fear.  In a supposedly civilized nation (and maybe planet), a fear is in place... a fear for survival, and that is a leveraging tool.  As far as i can tell, that is EXACTLY what &quot;the mob&quot; was doing to folks in Chicago... during the days of Elliot Ness.   Pay-up or lose your wellbeing (home/healthcare/supplies).  If my feebly knowledge serves me well, ANY &quot;pay-up or else&quot;... or ANY &quot;do it or else&quot;... including &quot;do what I tell you or you&#039;re fired/terminated&quot;... is felony extortion.  Its also forced religion in many ways.  Join a competer&#039;s church (capitalism), OR ELSE!  Where is the freedom of choice to join a cooperator&#039;s church?  Sure, there&#039;s the Amish, Quakers, Menonites, etc... but 18 year olds in those groups... get few toys and little selection in dating possibilities.  Many parents don&#039;t even teach their kids about the existence of cooperatives and communes.  Almost all teaching, railroading, bandwagoning, traditioning, indoctrination, social-mores, co-condoning, media-hogfeed... is toward capitalism/business.

The cost of living is, indeed, an ever-attacking &quot;threat&quot;, and needs to be fended-of by all means possible, including gouging/billing/timecarding others.   Any invoicing, billing, timecarding... that that a person or their big/small business does... adds to the cost of living for others.  I call it spirography.  What goes around, comes around.  With spirographs, there is/was always TWO ways to rotate the pen/gears, but no matter which way, the pen, eventually came back to its starting place.  Let&#039;s call one direction... BILLING or taking.  Let&#039;s call the other direction... LOVE or giving.  When you &quot;issue&quot; love/giving, the pen circles and loops and cuircles and loops, and then the issued giving, comes back to you.  Conversely, when you issue a billing/invoice/timecard, that billing is handed on and handed on, loop, loop, loop, until it, too, returns to its issuer.  What goes around, comes around.  Spirography.  Hand-around love and giving, and it comes back.  Hand around demandings, and they come back into your own mailbox.  The more YOUR business raises its price tags, the more the companies who bill you, will raise their prices.  This all happens, because the tip of each spirograph flower petal (each person on the planet)... is a loop, not a point.  All things are handed-on... bills or love.  Currently, the planet is in an all-one-direction spirography.  Little movement in the &quot;giving and love&quot; direction, and much spirography-spin in the &quot;billing and demanding&quot; direction.

What&#039;s the answer to a self-feeding demand-o-thon sprirograph wheel?  Same as always... a stick jammed in the spokes.  We have to stop the runaway bill-a-thon, distrust-a-thon, spin-o-fear... before we can even consider how to get the spiro-wheels spinning in an all-giving, all-sharing commune-like direction.  How do we jam a stick in the spokes?  Laws.  Fairness laws.  Making monetary discrimination... a felony, should do it.  Folks have to WANT that law, in order to get it.  A Christian-ish uprising... demanding fairness laws and demanding the elimination of wellbeing rationing (monetary discrim)... is a good start.  Too bad most powerful Christians... are capitalism buy-ins.  Many are competers by day, cooperators by night.  Two-sided folks indeed.  Flip-floppers.  Bad deal.  I&#039;m still studying the thing... I&#039;ll try to report any Achilles heals I come across.  In a way, the cost of living is a dragon, and more specifically, the fire from a dragon.  This same dragon, will sell you thermal blankets to protect your from him... IF... you worship him and give some of your labor-earned dragonfeed, to it.  Serve the dragon, and get some thermal blankets.  Don&#039;t serve the competer&#039;s church, and you get burnt-up y &quot;the cost of living&quot;... which we made for ourselves.

Erf, what a metaphor festival, huh?  I wish I wrote better.  I working on it. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Valid point, Ron.  Your use of &#8220;have to&#8221; is the key phrase.  In a way, you must defend yourselves against the feared, attacking, cost of living.  And if one were to reword &#8220;cost of living&#8221;, one COULD use &#8220;cost of remaining alive on the planet&#8221;.  Its a fear.  In a supposedly civilized nation (and maybe planet), a fear is in place&#8230; a fear for survival, and that is a leveraging tool.  As far as i can tell, that is EXACTLY what &#8220;the mob&#8221; was doing to folks in Chicago&#8230; during the days of Elliot Ness.   Pay-up or lose your wellbeing (home/healthcare/supplies).  If my feebly knowledge serves me well, ANY &#8220;pay-up or else&#8221;&#8230; or ANY &#8220;do it or else&#8221;&#8230; including &#8220;do what I tell you or you&#8217;re fired/terminated&#8221;&#8230; is felony extortion.  Its also forced religion in many ways.  Join a competer&#8217;s church (capitalism), OR ELSE!  Where is the freedom of choice to join a cooperator&#8217;s church?  Sure, there&#8217;s the Amish, Quakers, Menonites, etc&#8230; but 18 year olds in those groups&#8230; get few toys and little selection in dating possibilities.  Many parents don&#8217;t even teach their kids about the existence of cooperatives and communes.  Almost all teaching, railroading, bandwagoning, traditioning, indoctrination, social-mores, co-condoning, media-hogfeed&#8230; is toward capitalism/business.</p>
<p>The cost of living is, indeed, an ever-attacking &#8220;threat&#8221;, and needs to be fended-of by all means possible, including gouging/billing/timecarding others.   Any invoicing, billing, timecarding&#8230; that that a person or their big/small business does&#8230; adds to the cost of living for others.  I call it spirography.  What goes around, comes around.  With spirographs, there is/was always TWO ways to rotate the pen/gears, but no matter which way, the pen, eventually came back to its starting place.  Let&#8217;s call one direction&#8230; BILLING or taking.  Let&#8217;s call the other direction&#8230; LOVE or giving.  When you &#8220;issue&#8221; love/giving, the pen circles and loops and cuircles and loops, and then the issued giving, comes back to you.  Conversely, when you issue a billing/invoice/timecard, that billing is handed on and handed on, loop, loop, loop, until it, too, returns to its issuer.  What goes around, comes around.  Spirography.  Hand-around love and giving, and it comes back.  Hand around demandings, and they come back into your own mailbox.  The more YOUR business raises its price tags, the more the companies who bill you, will raise their prices.  This all happens, because the tip of each spirograph flower petal (each person on the planet)&#8230; is a loop, not a point.  All things are handed-on&#8230; bills or love.  Currently, the planet is in an all-one-direction spirography.  Little movement in the &#8220;giving and love&#8221; direction, and much spirography-spin in the &#8220;billing and demanding&#8221; direction.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s the answer to a self-feeding demand-o-thon sprirograph wheel?  Same as always&#8230; a stick jammed in the spokes.  We have to stop the runaway bill-a-thon, distrust-a-thon, spin-o-fear&#8230; before we can even consider how to get the spiro-wheels spinning in an all-giving, all-sharing commune-like direction.  How do we jam a stick in the spokes?  Laws.  Fairness laws.  Making monetary discrimination&#8230; a felony, should do it.  Folks have to WANT that law, in order to get it.  A Christian-ish uprising&#8230; demanding fairness laws and demanding the elimination of wellbeing rationing (monetary discrim)&#8230; is a good start.  Too bad most powerful Christians&#8230; are capitalism buy-ins.  Many are competers by day, cooperators by night.  Two-sided folks indeed.  Flip-floppers.  Bad deal.  I&#8217;m still studying the thing&#8230; I&#8217;ll try to report any Achilles heals I come across.  In a way, the cost of living is a dragon, and more specifically, the fire from a dragon.  This same dragon, will sell you thermal blankets to protect your from him&#8230; IF&#8230; you worship him and give some of your labor-earned dragonfeed, to it.  Serve the dragon, and get some thermal blankets.  Don&#8217;t serve the competer&#8217;s church, and you get burnt-up y &#8220;the cost of living&#8221;&#8230; which we made for ourselves.</p>
<p>Erf, what a metaphor festival, huh?  I wish I wrote better.  I working on it. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/08/free-speech-in-pittsburgh-a-test/#comment-53229</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 14:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[{Good post. Has anyone thought of disabling the power grid?}

Something tells me that nature will take care of that!~]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>{Good post. Has anyone thought of disabling the power grid?}</p>
<p>Something tells me that nature will take care of that!~</p>
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		<title>By: sheilanagig</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/08/free-speech-in-pittsburgh-a-test/#comment-53193</link>
		<dc:creator>sheilanagig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 23:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good post.   Has anyone thought of disabling the power grid?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post.   Has anyone thought of disabling the power grid?</p>
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		<title>By: ron</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/08/free-speech-in-pittsburgh-a-test/#comment-53167</link>
		<dc:creator>ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 17:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[meanwhile, the rest of us have to feed our kids and give them a place to live, etc.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>meanwhile, the rest of us have to feed our kids and give them a place to live, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Wingnut</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/08/free-speech-in-pittsburgh-a-test/#comment-53162</link>
		<dc:creator>Wingnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 16:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Doesn&#039;t &quot;job&quot; = joining the AmWay (American Way) pyramid scheme whose symbol is easily seen on the back of the USA dollar?  Shouldn&#039;t this author be pursuing the abolishing of capitalism-invented price tags, which causes &quot;cost of living&quot;, which in-turn, forces people to need &quot;jobs&quot; supporting the pyramid scheme/imperialism?  

Its pretty simple,  friend.  Want capitalism stopped?  Then tell &quot;the workers&quot; to quit joining the thing via taking &quot;jobs&quot; aboard it.  As soon as &quot;workers&quot; quit kissing the ass of the capitalism pyramid scheme by attaining &quot;jobs&quot;, capitalism/economies, and the rat-racing and pyramiding such things cause... will go away.  &quot;Workers&quot; joining the thing... is what causes its continuance.  Rid the world of the rationing blockades to survival goods called PRICE TAGS, and now you have no more &quot;forced-to-join&quot;  (get a job aboard the imperialism, or starve).  Get off the dependency on money and ownership.  Get off the &quot;juice&quot;.  Fix the parental policy reversal from share share share, to fight fight fight when the USA 18 year olds are shark-tanked into &quot;out there&quot;.  Make it so that the 18 year olds can continue the share share share policy of their childhoods, right on through adulthood.  Stop honoring &quot;join or starve&quot; (get a job or die) felony extortion, step one.  Make it illegal... a good idea for felony extortion activities.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doesn&#8217;t &#8220;job&#8221; = joining the AmWay (American Way) pyramid scheme whose symbol is easily seen on the back of the USA dollar?  Shouldn&#8217;t this author be pursuing the abolishing of capitalism-invented price tags, which causes &#8220;cost of living&#8221;, which in-turn, forces people to need &#8220;jobs&#8221; supporting the pyramid scheme/imperialism?  </p>
<p>Its pretty simple,  friend.  Want capitalism stopped?  Then tell &#8220;the workers&#8221; to quit joining the thing via taking &#8220;jobs&#8221; aboard it.  As soon as &#8220;workers&#8221; quit kissing the ass of the capitalism pyramid scheme by attaining &#8220;jobs&#8221;, capitalism/economies, and the rat-racing and pyramiding such things cause&#8230; will go away.  &#8220;Workers&#8221; joining the thing&#8230; is what causes its continuance.  Rid the world of the rationing blockades to survival goods called PRICE TAGS, and now you have no more &#8220;forced-to-join&#8221;  (get a job aboard the imperialism, or starve).  Get off the dependency on money and ownership.  Get off the &#8220;juice&#8221;.  Fix the parental policy reversal from share share share, to fight fight fight when the USA 18 year olds are shark-tanked into &#8220;out there&#8221;.  Make it so that the 18 year olds can continue the share share share policy of their childhoods, right on through adulthood.  Stop honoring &#8220;join or starve&#8221; (get a job or die) felony extortion, step one.  Make it illegal&#8230; a good idea for felony extortion activities.</p>
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