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		<title>By: Tealnrose</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/08/a-safer-society-through-legalizing-marijuana/#comment-53740</link>
		<dc:creator>Tealnrose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 19:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim Crosson   It was just in the news lately that research shows marijuana not as harmful as tobacco  and gets rid of tumors...that is positive research...iknow of someone who was cured of arthritis by using it as a rub....mixed with rubbing alcohol... so there is more to this than our dumb government wants to admit.. by legalizing it all at once would give them no control of the money factor...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim Crosson   It was just in the news lately that research shows marijuana not as harmful as tobacco  and gets rid of tumors&#8230;that is positive research&#8230;iknow of someone who was cured of arthritis by using it as a rub&#8230;.mixed with rubbing alcohol&#8230; so there is more to this than our dumb government wants to admit.. by legalizing it all at once would give them no control of the money factor&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: yang</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/08/a-safer-society-through-legalizing-marijuana/#comment-53438</link>
		<dc:creator>yang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 07:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kimmy bear
i want to know more about marijuana
but this is only very general outline of the book
i want more
hoho</description>
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i want to know more about marijuana<br />
but this is only very general outline of the book<br />
i want more<br />
hoho</p>
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		<title>By: Ntessier</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/08/a-safer-society-through-legalizing-marijuana/#comment-53153</link>
		<dc:creator>Ntessier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 14:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S. Lynn
Thank god there are people like you to protect me from myself. What would we do without such paternalistic protectors to save us from ourselves. (Dripping sarcasm)
How about minding your own business. I don&#039;t smoke ciagrettes either so there goes that theory.
My body, my choice. Women aren&#039;t the monopoly on the right to choose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. Lynn<br />
Thank god there are people like you to protect me from myself. What would we do without such paternalistic protectors to save us from ourselves. (Dripping sarcasm)<br />
How about minding your own business. I don&#8217;t smoke ciagrettes either so there goes that theory.<br />
My body, my choice. Women aren&#8217;t the monopoly on the right to choose.</p>
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		<title>By: Ntessier</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/08/a-safer-society-through-legalizing-marijuana/#comment-53152</link>
		<dc:creator>Ntessier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 14:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as I&#039;m concerned it may as well be legal. Most people agree it is relatively harmless when compared to other legal substances and actually has beneficial effects. Smoking doesn&#039;t have to be the only method of administration. Vaporizers are smokeless and  it can be introduced into food as an ingredient so the second hand smoke crutch just doesn&#039;t quite hold water.
Mjosef I take offense to the term stoner. I&#039;m sure you have a drink from time to time, how would you like it if I referred to you as a drunk, lush or alcoholic. I do not drink, can&#039;t stand the stuff or the chemicals industrial medicine is peddling nowadays. I prefer my cannabis so, if you please, I am a consumer...just like you.
Prohibition = failed.
Live like it&#039;s legal.
Cannabis for your physical and mental well being.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as I&#8217;m concerned it may as well be legal. Most people agree it is relatively harmless when compared to other legal substances and actually has beneficial effects. Smoking doesn&#8217;t have to be the only method of administration. Vaporizers are smokeless and  it can be introduced into food as an ingredient so the second hand smoke crutch just doesn&#8217;t quite hold water.<br />
Mjosef I take offense to the term stoner. I&#8217;m sure you have a drink from time to time, how would you like it if I referred to you as a drunk, lush or alcoholic. I do not drink, can&#8217;t stand the stuff or the chemicals industrial medicine is peddling nowadays. I prefer my cannabis so, if you please, I am a consumer&#8230;just like you.<br />
Prohibition = failed.<br />
Live like it&#8217;s legal.<br />
Cannabis for your physical and mental well being.</p>
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		<title>By: Billy Bobbs</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/08/a-safer-society-through-legalizing-marijuana/#comment-53108</link>
		<dc:creator>Billy Bobbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 20:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why didn&#039;t we learn from Prohibition of Alcohol and the rise of the Mafia and Al Capone.    We are stupid or something,  Repeal Cannabis Prohibition now and let us use this miracle plant with the potential to cure cancer.    We are stupid and only money matters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why didn&#8217;t we learn from Prohibition of Alcohol and the rise of the Mafia and Al Capone.    We are stupid or something,  Repeal Cannabis Prohibition now and let us use this miracle plant with the potential to cure cancer.    We are stupid and only money matters.</p>
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		<title>By: Erroll</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/08/a-safer-society-through-legalizing-marijuana/#comment-53098</link>
		<dc:creator>Erroll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 18:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indman

You state that I am &quot;speaking from some other dimension where everything you say is right and you don&#039;t have to listen to other  people...&quot;  Do have any idea just what the hell you are talking about? I can say with absolute certainty that I have never said [and nor could I ever imagine] that I have been right about everything  and that I have somehow believed that I do not have to listen to other people.  I would like to think that, contrary to what you seem to believe, that I have the right to question and to challenge what I read and hear and that means whether those opinions and ideas are coming from the left or coming from the right.  Despite your less than illuminating opinions, I hardly think that you possess what you seem to believe  is a monopoly on the truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indman</p>
<p>You state that I am &#8220;speaking from some other dimension where everything you say is right and you don&#8217;t have to listen to other  people&#8230;&#8221;  Do have any idea just what the hell you are talking about? I can say with absolute certainty that I have never said [and nor could I ever imagine] that I have been right about everything  and that I have somehow believed that I do not have to listen to other people.  I would like to think that, contrary to what you seem to believe, that I have the right to question and to challenge what I read and hear and that means whether those opinions and ideas are coming from the left or coming from the right.  Despite your less than illuminating opinions, I hardly think that you possess what you seem to believe  is a monopoly on the truth.</p>
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		<title>By: The Guitar God</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/08/a-safer-society-through-legalizing-marijuana/#comment-53055</link>
		<dc:creator>The Guitar God</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 00:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>duh.

think of what legal drugs would do to the crips and bloods.

we need solutions to our social problems, not 60 year illusions of &#039;fixes&#039;; which intentionally keep people suppressed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>duh.</p>
<p>think of what legal drugs would do to the crips and bloods.</p>
<p>we need solutions to our social problems, not 60 year illusions of &#8216;fixes&#8217;; which intentionally keep people suppressed.</p>
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		<title>By: Trogo</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/08/a-safer-society-through-legalizing-marijuana/#comment-52959</link>
		<dc:creator>Trogo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 23:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lynn,
You are propagating the same fantastical propaganda that the Partnership for a Drug Free America likes to promote as &quot;fact&quot;. Your statements are actually unfounded and have not been substantially proven. 
- There is no direct link to COPD and cannabis. In fact, I have COPD and I did not get it from cannabis or tobacco. 
-There is not finite corollary between addiction and cannabis. 
-As far as memory loss, it has been found that any memory loss is directly tied to the time of use and does not affect what has been learned before or after. 
-You will experience just as much lung damage (if not more) walking the streets of a highly polluted city as you would if you smoked cannabis or tobacco. Part of the reason I have COPD now!
-I know many people that do not drink and would not ingest cannabis as well.  And please cite reference before you spout numbers like &quot;70%&quot;. There are always going to be those people that ingest cannabis and imbibe in alcohol regardless of the law. Also, if you have paid attention to any recentstudies, you would know that cannabis has been found to slow down, if not reverse, the negative effects of tobacco and alcohol.
-Lastly, I love coffee. But caffeine is significantly more dangerous than cannabis. It is also highly addictive. A regular coffee drinker like myself will experience physical withdrawal symptoms that can make the person nauseous, painful migraines, stomach cramping, sleeplessness, sleepiness, and other multitudes of symptoms. Because cannabis is non-toxic, it does no have the same withdrawal symptoms that can occur from continuous tobacco, alcohol, caffeine, or even sugar use. I don&#039;t like to say it, but those that say they are &quot;addictied&quot; to cannabis truly do not know what they are talking about. I have suffered through the horrible side effects incurred by continuous overuse of alcohol (yes I claim I am an alcoholic...I don&#039;t believe the &quot;disease&quot; ideology though..it is more of an allergy), and it was physically painful. I have also worked in several rehab facilities, and have never met one person that has had the same physiological withdrawal symptoms characterized by more toxic substances like alcohol, heroin, tobacco, caffeine, etc. I do believe in a psychological dependence to cannabis, but that can attributed to anything in a person&#039;s life.

Lynn, please do your research beyond the loose claims of the FDA, your own beliefs/personal experiences, the NIDA, SAMHSA, or any other institution that disregards other more prolific studies from reputable universities. Frankly, I am fed up by people like yourself that don&#039;t make considerations for both sides of the issue and just play follow the leader with important issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lynn,<br />
You are propagating the same fantastical propaganda that the Partnership for a Drug Free America likes to promote as &#8220;fact&#8221;. Your statements are actually unfounded and have not been substantially proven.<br />
- There is no direct link to COPD and cannabis. In fact, I have COPD and I did not get it from cannabis or tobacco.<br />
-There is not finite corollary between addiction and cannabis.<br />
-As far as memory loss, it has been found that any memory loss is directly tied to the time of use and does not affect what has been learned before or after.<br />
-You will experience just as much lung damage (if not more) walking the streets of a highly polluted city as you would if you smoked cannabis or tobacco. Part of the reason I have COPD now!<br />
-I know many people that do not drink and would not ingest cannabis as well.  And please cite reference before you spout numbers like &#8220;70%&#8221;. There are always going to be those people that ingest cannabis and imbibe in alcohol regardless of the law. Also, if you have paid attention to any recentstudies, you would know that cannabis has been found to slow down, if not reverse, the negative effects of tobacco and alcohol.<br />
-Lastly, I love coffee. But caffeine is significantly more dangerous than cannabis. It is also highly addictive. A regular coffee drinker like myself will experience physical withdrawal symptoms that can make the person nauseous, painful migraines, stomach cramping, sleeplessness, sleepiness, and other multitudes of symptoms. Because cannabis is non-toxic, it does no have the same withdrawal symptoms that can occur from continuous tobacco, alcohol, caffeine, or even sugar use. I don&#8217;t like to say it, but those that say they are &#8220;addictied&#8221; to cannabis truly do not know what they are talking about. I have suffered through the horrible side effects incurred by continuous overuse of alcohol (yes I claim I am an alcoholic&#8230;I don&#8217;t believe the &#8220;disease&#8221; ideology though..it is more of an allergy), and it was physically painful. I have also worked in several rehab facilities, and have never met one person that has had the same physiological withdrawal symptoms characterized by more toxic substances like alcohol, heroin, tobacco, caffeine, etc. I do believe in a psychological dependence to cannabis, but that can attributed to anything in a person&#8217;s life.</p>
<p>Lynn, please do your research beyond the loose claims of the FDA, your own beliefs/personal experiences, the NIDA, SAMHSA, or any other institution that disregards other more prolific studies from reputable universities. Frankly, I am fed up by people like yourself that don&#8217;t make considerations for both sides of the issue and just play follow the leader with important issues.</p>
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		<title>By: ty rowe</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/08/a-safer-society-through-legalizing-marijuana/#comment-52947</link>
		<dc:creator>ty rowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 21:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i hope they legalize marijuana soon there is people who have cancers and need this healing herb</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i hope they legalize marijuana soon there is people who have cancers and need this healing herb</p>
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		<title>By: Chris L</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/08/a-safer-society-through-legalizing-marijuana/#comment-52942</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 20:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In regards to the much repeated myth about driving while high. The Government study that most people refer to about accidents occurring while the driver was high on Marijuana actually mentions that -ALL- of the people in the study (survey? I&#039;m not sure what wording is technically correct) had alcohol in their system above the legal limit in -ADDITION- to the Marijuana. 

I for one do not believe that driving while high is of any danger to an individual who is used to Marijuana. I have a friend who has a Marijuana card for chronic back pain who gets high -IN HIS CAR- after work every day. I&#039;ve frequently driven with him during these times and have not noticed him driving more dangerously. As of now he has been doing this for a year, -EVERY DAY-, and has yet to crash his car.
God I hope somebody gets the balls to mention this in the media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In regards to the much repeated myth about driving while high. The Government study that most people refer to about accidents occurring while the driver was high on Marijuana actually mentions that -ALL- of the people in the study (survey? I&#8217;m not sure what wording is technically correct) had alcohol in their system above the legal limit in -ADDITION- to the Marijuana. </p>
<p>I for one do not believe that driving while high is of any danger to an individual who is used to Marijuana. I have a friend who has a Marijuana card for chronic back pain who gets high -IN HIS CAR- after work every day. I&#8217;ve frequently driven with him during these times and have not noticed him driving more dangerously. As of now he has been doing this for a year, -EVERY DAY-, and has yet to crash his car.<br />
God I hope somebody gets the balls to mention this in the media.</p>
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		<title>By: Indman</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/08/a-safer-society-through-legalizing-marijuana/#comment-52893</link>
		<dc:creator>Indman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 14:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good article Kim, I hope some more people realize that they&#039;re being lied to. I think more and more are and we&#039;re going to see a change and a shift from alcholism to a newer more creative world. 

And Erroll, you&#039;re speaking from some other dimension where everything you say is right and you don&#039;t have to listen to other people, you should wake up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article Kim, I hope some more people realize that they&#8217;re being lied to. I think more and more are and we&#8217;re going to see a change and a shift from alcholism to a newer more creative world. </p>
<p>And Erroll, you&#8217;re speaking from some other dimension where everything you say is right and you don&#8217;t have to listen to other people, you should wake up.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynn</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/08/a-safer-society-through-legalizing-marijuana/#comment-52892</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 14:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the premise of the book is that marijuana provides a safer alternative than alcohol, there is a problem, because when we look at patterns of use, those who use marijuana also use alcohol and 70% also smoke cigarettes.  So marijuana will be used in conjunction of alcohol and probably tobacco as it is now, but use will go up with advertising and commercialism.  It won&#039;t be either/or but both alcohol/marijuana.  Take the case of Diane Schuler who recently drove a car with five children, went the wrong way on a highway and crashed into an suv and killed herself, 3 children, and 3 passengers in another vehicle.  The autopsy revealed she was drunk on vodka and had a large quantity of recently ingested THC in her system.  The medical report says THC increases the impairment of alcohol.  Smoking marijuana along with tobacco also increases the chance of COPD, says a recent study.

So not only does marijuana pose the danger of addiction, driving accidents, memory loss, loss of concentration, problems with education, lung damage etc. in and of itself, when combined with alcohol, tobacco, and other substances, as it usually is, it is not actually safe.  Changing our culture from an alcohol culture to a marijuana culture isn&#039;t going to happen.

By the way, coffee is addictive, but recent research shows it is high in antioxidents and helps the brain function, and protects against Type II diabetes, heart disease, and a number of other ailments.  It is definitely safer than marijuana and alcohol and better for college students.  And it is legal, so forget about marijuana and get your buzz from coffee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the premise of the book is that marijuana provides a safer alternative than alcohol, there is a problem, because when we look at patterns of use, those who use marijuana also use alcohol and 70% also smoke cigarettes.  So marijuana will be used in conjunction of alcohol and probably tobacco as it is now, but use will go up with advertising and commercialism.  It won&#8217;t be either/or but both alcohol/marijuana.  Take the case of Diane Schuler who recently drove a car with five children, went the wrong way on a highway and crashed into an suv and killed herself, 3 children, and 3 passengers in another vehicle.  The autopsy revealed she was drunk on vodka and had a large quantity of recently ingested THC in her system.  The medical report says THC increases the impairment of alcohol.  Smoking marijuana along with tobacco also increases the chance of COPD, says a recent study.</p>
<p>So not only does marijuana pose the danger of addiction, driving accidents, memory loss, loss of concentration, problems with education, lung damage etc. in and of itself, when combined with alcohol, tobacco, and other substances, as it usually is, it is not actually safe.  Changing our culture from an alcohol culture to a marijuana culture isn&#8217;t going to happen.</p>
<p>By the way, coffee is addictive, but recent research shows it is high in antioxidents and helps the brain function, and protects against Type II diabetes, heart disease, and a number of other ailments.  It is definitely safer than marijuana and alcohol and better for college students.  And it is legal, so forget about marijuana and get your buzz from coffee.</p>
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		<title>By: b99</title>
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		<dc:creator>b99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 13:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Coffee harmful?  Since when?  What studies?

Marijuana may be harmful, jeez, I&#039;m sure it is.  But in the big scheme of things, it&#039;s small potatoes.  No one should be in jail for it, or fined.  Not while there is still alcohol out there - and who thinks alcohol should be prohibted anymore?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coffee harmful?  Since when?  What studies?</p>
<p>Marijuana may be harmful, jeez, I&#8217;m sure it is.  But in the big scheme of things, it&#8217;s small potatoes.  No one should be in jail for it, or fined.  Not while there is still alcohol out there &#8211; and who thinks alcohol should be prohibted anymore?</p>
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		<title>By: SimonS</title>
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		<dc:creator>SimonS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 12:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marijuana is safer than alcohol?

What&#039;s the point in stating that?

Tell the world the fact that heroin, coke and meth are safer than alcohol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marijuana is safer than alcohol?</p>
<p>What&#8217;s the point in stating that?</p>
<p>Tell the world the fact that heroin, coke and meth are safer than alcohol.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim Sweet</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/08/a-safer-society-through-legalizing-marijuana/#comment-52877</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim Sweet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 12:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lets go after coffee. More people use coffee. It is more harmful and additive than marijuana. Incaceration and property siezures would skyrocket. Cartels and the DEA could switch over. Starbucks could go underground. There there now,  problem solved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lets go after coffee. More people use coffee. It is more harmful and additive than marijuana. Incaceration and property siezures would skyrocket. Cartels and the DEA could switch over. Starbucks could go underground. There there now,  problem solved.</p>
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		<title>By: mjosef</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/08/a-safer-society-through-legalizing-marijuana/#comment-52875</link>
		<dc:creator>mjosef</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 11:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. Can somebody ever say something critical without getting smacked around for having the temerity to question the soliloquist? Erroll has every right, and is to be commended, for voicing his points.  The authors of the drug book should expect, and welcome, rejoinders from the hoi polloi.  
2. The number of citations are no guarantee of delphic wisdom: I can amass 1,000 citations on any topic in the world, but if my fundamental philosophy is deficient, I am shoveling without purpose.  
3.   We cannot live as if there is no social reality, especially in an incarceral state. Society has many rules and regulations to shape individual behavior, and its  promotion of unlimited alcohol  is surely insane, but these practices are the ones we have inherited. 
4.  Whatever my views and practices on this subject are, they are not not going to &quot;influence&quot; the public debate, because I&#039;m just another shouter in the crowd. I value alertness and a functioning mind, have switched to only two small glasses of red wine a night, and regard driving while high or drunk as inherently wrong, since the car is such a death-dealing machine., yet millions will drive successfully in a mind-altered state tonight.  So what for what I do? There is a lot that all of us  do and think that is connected to practically indefensible, destructive arrangements.  
 5. I&#039;m all for public health and safety, which is why the &quot;body as sovereign&quot; crowd are fantasists, since what you do to yourself often has great and deleterious effects on others.  Yet most all of our societies are riven with religion-dominated traditionalism, such as war, taxes to support war, the rich getting far richer, mass unemployment, none of which are going to be curtailed by giving every human a stash.  I would ask of the authors: give me one real, measurable public outcome about either cannabis or alcohol you would like to see.  And I will tell you, most likely, that it is not going to happen. Social policy is dominated, by corporate forces, corporate tax-supported death instrument cigarette manufacturers, corporate death-instrument alcohol manufacturers, corporate money-laundering illegal narcotics syndicates and their happy banks.  You fine and upstanding stoners are good people, true enough, and I&#039;m a buzz kill,  but we should all make our comments and then be on our divergent ways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. Can somebody ever say something critical without getting smacked around for having the temerity to question the soliloquist? Erroll has every right, and is to be commended, for voicing his points.  The authors of the drug book should expect, and welcome, rejoinders from the hoi polloi.<br />
2. The number of citations are no guarantee of delphic wisdom: I can amass 1,000 citations on any topic in the world, but if my fundamental philosophy is deficient, I am shoveling without purpose.<br />
3.   We cannot live as if there is no social reality, especially in an incarceral state. Society has many rules and regulations to shape individual behavior, and its  promotion of unlimited alcohol  is surely insane, but these practices are the ones we have inherited.<br />
4.  Whatever my views and practices on this subject are, they are not not going to &#8220;influence&#8221; the public debate, because I&#8217;m just another shouter in the crowd. I value alertness and a functioning mind, have switched to only two small glasses of red wine a night, and regard driving while high or drunk as inherently wrong, since the car is such a death-dealing machine., yet millions will drive successfully in a mind-altered state tonight.  So what for what I do? There is a lot that all of us  do and think that is connected to practically indefensible, destructive arrangements.<br />
 5. I&#8217;m all for public health and safety, which is why the &#8220;body as sovereign&#8221; crowd are fantasists, since what you do to yourself often has great and deleterious effects on others.  Yet most all of our societies are riven with religion-dominated traditionalism, such as war, taxes to support war, the rich getting far richer, mass unemployment, none of which are going to be curtailed by giving every human a stash.  I would ask of the authors: give me one real, measurable public outcome about either cannabis or alcohol you would like to see.  And I will tell you, most likely, that it is not going to happen. Social policy is dominated, by corporate forces, corporate tax-supported death instrument cigarette manufacturers, corporate death-instrument alcohol manufacturers, corporate money-laundering illegal narcotics syndicates and their happy banks.  You fine and upstanding stoners are good people, true enough, and I&#8217;m a buzz kill,  but we should all make our comments and then be on our divergent ways.</p>
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		<title>By: Jinx</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/08/a-safer-society-through-legalizing-marijuana/#comment-52866</link>
		<dc:creator>Jinx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 06:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as social effects, I FAR prefer my spouse smoke cannabis than drink.  When he drinks, &quot;Instant Asshole&quot;!  When he smokes, he is creative, funny, cuddly, rather talkative, and calm after a stressful day at work.

I use medical marijuana on occasion, but do NOT like to smoke.  I eat snack foods with THC, use sprays and tinctures, and  only a few times a year receive a &quot;shotgun&quot; of smoke.  No other medicine has had the same positive effect on my insomnia and pain.

Along the lines of social effects, consider the monetary savings when those arrested on solely marijuana related crimes are released from prison!

It&#039;s &quot;high&quot; time that legalization happens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as social effects, I FAR prefer my spouse smoke cannabis than drink.  When he drinks, &#8220;Instant Asshole&#8221;!  When he smokes, he is creative, funny, cuddly, rather talkative, and calm after a stressful day at work.</p>
<p>I use medical marijuana on occasion, but do NOT like to smoke.  I eat snack foods with THC, use sprays and tinctures, and  only a few times a year receive a &#8220;shotgun&#8221; of smoke.  No other medicine has had the same positive effect on my insomnia and pain.</p>
<p>Along the lines of social effects, consider the monetary savings when those arrested on solely marijuana related crimes are released from prison!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s &#8220;high&#8221; time that legalization happens.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/08/a-safer-society-through-legalizing-marijuana/#comment-52864</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 04:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the topic of legalization, I do think the conditions in California are ideal; that is, partial legalization with card. Marijuana legalized in the current command and control economy would most likely result in the impurification of the substance. As a daily pot smoker, for better and worse, I would buy my bud 10 times out of 10 not from marlboro or whatever oligopolies would receive the rights, but rather from a friend of acquaintance.

Say No to Genetically Modified Bud! 

Flouride weed would result in some serious brain cell death</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the topic of legalization, I do think the conditions in California are ideal; that is, partial legalization with card. Marijuana legalized in the current command and control economy would most likely result in the impurification of the substance. As a daily pot smoker, for better and worse, I would buy my bud 10 times out of 10 not from marlboro or whatever oligopolies would receive the rights, but rather from a friend of acquaintance.</p>
<p>Say No to Genetically Modified Bud! </p>
<p>Flouride weed would result in some serious brain cell death</p>
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		<title>By: phuque yew</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/08/a-safer-society-through-legalizing-marijuana/#comment-52863</link>
		<dc:creator>phuque yew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 04:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While this might be off-point with regards to the content of the book and Kim&#039;s review, legalization of marijuana would reduce associated judicial and incarceration costs in the US manifold.  But then, I don&#039;t think most of the purveyors of violence, greed, and consumption really want a bunch more free-thinking anti-capitalists on the streets - who knows, someone might start a revolution after smoking a bowl.  Indeed, I believe that Nixon&#039;s opposition to pot was based in part on weed&#039;s symbolic use by the counterculture and anti-war &quot;fanatics,&quot; something this country needs now more than ever!  

The demonization of drugs, in particular hemp, has long been parlayed into a symptom of capitalistic disengagement, not the least because it does seem to go along with more open minds, social tolerance, and kindness towards fellow human beings.  No one in the power bowels of a fascist culture wants more free-thinkers.  

I&#039;ve smoked weed since 1972, and I&#039;m still physically, intellectually, emotionally, spiritually, and sexually fit and active.  I drive high quite often (OK, I won&#039;t recommend that to everyone - but what a lame capitulation to the status quo - how many people do you pass on the road every day who&#039;ve been drinking alcohol, or caffeine, for that matter?).  I have a productive business, and contribute time and money to various progressive causes.  I love my life and the people in it.  This might not be everyone&#039;s experience of ganja, but it&#039;s mine, and I&#039;m glad I toke.

Hey, Errol, take a hit, it might lower your blood pressure and clean out those neanderthal cobwebs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While this might be off-point with regards to the content of the book and Kim&#8217;s review, legalization of marijuana would reduce associated judicial and incarceration costs in the US manifold.  But then, I don&#8217;t think most of the purveyors of violence, greed, and consumption really want a bunch more free-thinking anti-capitalists on the streets &#8211; who knows, someone might start a revolution after smoking a bowl.  Indeed, I believe that Nixon&#8217;s opposition to pot was based in part on weed&#8217;s symbolic use by the counterculture and anti-war &#8220;fanatics,&#8221; something this country needs now more than ever!  </p>
<p>The demonization of drugs, in particular hemp, has long been parlayed into a symptom of capitalistic disengagement, not the least because it does seem to go along with more open minds, social tolerance, and kindness towards fellow human beings.  No one in the power bowels of a fascist culture wants more free-thinkers.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve smoked weed since 1972, and I&#8217;m still physically, intellectually, emotionally, spiritually, and sexually fit and active.  I drive high quite often (OK, I won&#8217;t recommend that to everyone &#8211; but what a lame capitulation to the status quo &#8211; how many people do you pass on the road every day who&#8217;ve been drinking alcohol, or caffeine, for that matter?).  I have a productive business, and contribute time and money to various progressive causes.  I love my life and the people in it.  This might not be everyone&#8217;s experience of ganja, but it&#8217;s mine, and I&#8217;m glad I toke.</p>
<p>Hey, Errol, take a hit, it might lower your blood pressure and clean out those neanderthal cobwebs.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim Petersen</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/08/a-safer-society-through-legalizing-marijuana/#comment-52861</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim Petersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 03:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erroll,
With all due respect, you are arguing at cross purposes. There is no scenario drawn up in the article or the book that argues it is better to drive under the influence of marijuana than alcohol. In fact, if you read more carefully, I wrote: &quot;While &lt;em&gt;Marijuana Is Safer&lt;/em&gt; debunks many of the myths existing about marijuana use, &lt;strong&gt;it does not insist that driving under the influence of marijuana is safe&lt;/strong&gt;.&quot; [bold added]

Second, the comparison made in the book is between marijuana and alcohol -- &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; marijuana and tobacco.

Third, nobody has stated &quot;that people wish to believe that inhaling smoke from a marijuana joint would be totally beneficial without the least possibility that it may do damage to their bodies.&quot; This is another sentence of your conjuration.

Fourth, as for your claims about lung cancer, there are plenty of studies that refute your claim that marijuana causes lung cancer. I pasted &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.ca/search?q=marijuana+lung+cancer&amp;ie=utf-8&amp;oe=utf-8&amp;aq=t&amp;rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&amp;client=firefox-a&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;marijuana lung cancer&lt;/a&gt;&quot; in google and came up with: 

The first two links are videos of a &quot;Pulmonary specialist and Federal Government researcher from UCLA Geffen School of Medicine finds that marijuana does not cause lung cancer in ...&quot;

The third link claims, &quot;The active ingredient in marijuana cuts tumor growth in common lung cancer in half and significantly reduces the ability of the cancer to spread, ...&quot; 

I recommend for those interested in the matter to do a deeper review of the scientific literature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erroll,<br />
With all due respect, you are arguing at cross purposes. There is no scenario drawn up in the article or the book that argues it is better to drive under the influence of marijuana than alcohol. In fact, if you read more carefully, I wrote: &#8220;While <em>Marijuana Is Safer</em> debunks many of the myths existing about marijuana use, <strong>it does not insist that driving under the influence of marijuana is safe</strong>.&#8221; [bold added]</p>
<p>Second, the comparison made in the book is between marijuana and alcohol &#8212; <em>not</em> marijuana and tobacco.</p>
<p>Third, nobody has stated &#8220;that people wish to believe that inhaling smoke from a marijuana joint would be totally beneficial without the least possibility that it may do damage to their bodies.&#8221; This is another sentence of your conjuration.</p>
<p>Fourth, as for your claims about lung cancer, there are plenty of studies that refute your claim that marijuana causes lung cancer. I pasted &#8220;<a href="http://www.google.ca/search?q=marijuana+lung+cancer&#038;ie=utf-8&#038;oe=utf-8&#038;aq=t&#038;rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&#038;client=firefox-a" rel="nofollow">marijuana lung cancer</a>&#8221; in google and came up with: </p>
<p>The first two links are videos of a &#8220;Pulmonary specialist and Federal Government researcher from UCLA Geffen School of Medicine finds that marijuana does not cause lung cancer in &#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>The third link claims, &#8220;The active ingredient in marijuana cuts tumor growth in common lung cancer in half and significantly reduces the ability of the cancer to spread, &#8230;&#8221; </p>
<p>I recommend for those interested in the matter to do a deeper review of the scientific literature.</p>
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