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	<title>Comments on: Where the Home in the Valley Met the Damp Dirty Prison</title>
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		<title>By: joed</title>
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		<dc:creator>joed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 02:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Jacobs thanks for another fine article. 
Too bad the young people are so very different today.  
Seems the bad guys did win afterall, didn&#039;t they!
An excelent book by Jonathan Schell, The Unconquorable World,  tells about living in police state and how to perhaps survive.
Amerika is doomed, isn&#039;t it!  There is no going back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Jacobs thanks for another fine article.<br />
Too bad the young people are so very different today.<br />
Seems the bad guys did win afterall, didn&#8217;t they!<br />
An excelent book by Jonathan Schell, The Unconquorable World,  tells about living in police state and how to perhaps survive.<br />
Amerika is doomed, isn&#8217;t it!  There is no going back.</p>
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		<title>By: kalidas</title>
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		<dc:creator>kalidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 01:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The days of old when thet toked up the gold, 
the days of &#039;69.&#039;

Montreal Star, June, 1969:
Reporter: Where do you get your strength?
John Lennon: From Hare Krsna.
Yoko: That&#039;s where we get it from, you know. We&#039;re not denying it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The days of old when thet toked up the gold,<br />
the days of &#8217;69.&#8217;</p>
<p>Montreal Star, June, 1969:<br />
Reporter: Where do you get your strength?<br />
John Lennon: From Hare Krsna.<br />
Yoko: That&#8217;s where we get it from, you know. We&#8217;re not denying it.</p>
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		<title>By: ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 01:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi liz,
i never say that woodstock was politically hopeful--i just say that it was an event that gave a lot of us hope that a new world was coming.  i&#039;m not sure that i ignore anything.  i merely emphasize certain things.  this does not pretend to be a complete history.  as for whiting out the black liberation movement--that is a false charge.  there are many other pieces i have written that speak primarily to the balck liberation movement.  this is not one of them, nor was it intended to be.  it is (and was intended to be) a look at the white left and counterculture in 1969--pretty much where i came from although in 1969 i was more of a bystander with an interest than an active participant...that would come in 1970-71</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi liz,<br />
i never say that woodstock was politically hopeful&#8211;i just say that it was an event that gave a lot of us hope that a new world was coming.  i&#8217;m not sure that i ignore anything.  i merely emphasize certain things.  this does not pretend to be a complete history.  as for whiting out the black liberation movement&#8211;that is a false charge.  there are many other pieces i have written that speak primarily to the balck liberation movement.  this is not one of them, nor was it intended to be.  it is (and was intended to be) a look at the white left and counterculture in 1969&#8211;pretty much where i came from although in 1969 i was more of a bystander with an interest than an active participant&#8230;that would come in 1970-71</p>
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		<title>By: liz burbank</title>
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		<dc:creator>liz burbank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 23:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ron,

woodstock was hardly the most politically &#039;hopeful&#039;!  first, in context, the &quot;60&#039;s&quot; were a magnificent worldwide anti-u.s. imperialist explosion, national liberation movements which, along with the anti-vietnam war struggles triggered Black power uprisings. you ignore that,  mush together a bunch of white radical groups, distorting and whiting out what is most historically important and hopeful: the revolutionary Black Liberation Movement led by the BPP, chief target of the U.S. imperialist COINTELPRO program.... the u.s. was terrified of the expanding revolutionary impact and unity the BPP  was forging among oppressed nationalities as well as radical and revolutionary whites.  Please do justice to this history whose lessons are critical -- and unfortunately learned better by our enemies than by us as 
obama&#039;s selection to manage the u.s. bipartisan global domination agenda hideously  illustrates.


from 7/18/9 issue http://www.burbankdigest.com/node/215
                         &quot;The Negro youth and moderate[s] must be made to understand that if they succumb to revolutionary teachings, they will be dead revolutionaries.&quot;   
 J. Edgar Hoover,FBI Chief, re:COINTELPRO  against the Black Panther Party

COINTELPRO (acronym for Counter Intelligence Program)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Federal Bureau of Investigation 
In August 1967, the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) instructed its program &quot;COINTELPRO&quot; to &quot;neutralize&quot; what the FBI called &quot;black nationalist hate groups&quot; and other dissident groups. In September of 1968, FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover described the Black Panthers as &quot;the greatest threat to the internal security of the country.&quot;[32] By 1969, the Black Panthers were the primary target of COINTELPRO....the BPP was profoundly influenced by Maoist thought.... They were the target of 233 of the 295 authorized &quot;Black Nationalist&quot; COINTELPRO actions. The goals of the program were to prevent the unification of militant black nationalist groups and to weaken the power of their leaders, as well as to discredit the groups to reduce their support and growth....

J. Edgar Hoover... supervised an extensive program of counter-organizing that included surveillance and eavesdropping, infiltration, harassment, false testimony, and a laundry list of other tactics designed to incriminate Party members and drain the organization of resources and manpower. (pg.45)” Through these tactics, it was thought that their potential for further advancement would diminish and probability of continuing to serve as a threat to the general power structure of the U.S,...

From 1966 to 1972, when the party was most active, several departments hired significantly more African-American police officers. Some of these black officers played prominent roles in shutting down the Panthers&#039; activities. In Chicago in 1969 for example, Panthers Mark Clark and Fred Hampton were both killed in a police raid (In which five of the officers present were African American) by Sergeant James Davis, an African American officer.[citation needed] In cities such as New York City, black police officers were used to infiltrate Panther meetings. By 1972, almost every major police department was fully integrated....

Although COINTELPRO was commissioned ostensibly to prevent violence, it used some tactics to foster violence. For instance, the FBI tried to &quot;intensify the degree of animosity&quot; between the Black Panthers and the Blackstone Rangers, a Chicago gang. They sent an anonymous letter to the Ranger’s gang leader claiming that the Panthers were threatening his life, a letter whose intent was to induce &quot;reprisals&quot; against Panther leadership. In Southern California similar actions were taken to exacerbate a &quot;gang war&quot; between the Black Panther Party and a group called the US Organization. Violent conflict between these two groups, including shootings and beatings, led to the deaths of at least four Black Panther Party members. FBI agents claimed credit for instigating some of the violence between the two groups. [33]
On January 17, 1969, Los Angeles Panther Captain Bunchy Carter and Deputy Minister John Huggins were killed in Campbell Hall on the UCLA campus, in a gun battle with members of US Organization stemming from a dispute over who would control UCLA&#039;s black studies program. Another shootout between the two groups on March 17 led to further injuries. It was alleged that the FBI had sent a provocative letter to US Organization in an attempt to create antagonism between US and the Panthers. [34] One of the most notorious actions was a Chicago Police raid of the home of Panther organizer Fred Hampton on December 4, 1969. The raid had been orchestrated by the police in conjunction with the FBI. The FBI was complicit in many of the actions. The people inside the home had been drugged by an FBI informant, William O&#039;Neal, and were asleep at the time of the raid. Hampton was shot and killed, as was the guard, Mark Clark. The others were dragged into the street, beaten, and subsequently charged with assault. These charges were later dropped. The Chicago Police and FBI were never investigated or charged for their role in the event. [35]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ron,</p>
<p>woodstock was hardly the most politically &#8216;hopeful&#8217;!  first, in context, the &#8220;60&#8242;s&#8221; were a magnificent worldwide anti-u.s. imperialist explosion, national liberation movements which, along with the anti-vietnam war struggles triggered Black power uprisings. you ignore that,  mush together a bunch of white radical groups, distorting and whiting out what is most historically important and hopeful: the revolutionary Black Liberation Movement led by the BPP, chief target of the U.S. imperialist COINTELPRO program&#8230;. the u.s. was terrified of the expanding revolutionary impact and unity the BPP  was forging among oppressed nationalities as well as radical and revolutionary whites.  Please do justice to this history whose lessons are critical &#8212; and unfortunately learned better by our enemies than by us as<br />
obama&#8217;s selection to manage the u.s. bipartisan global domination agenda hideously  illustrates.</p>
<p>from 7/18/9 issue <a href="http://www.burbankdigest.com/node/215" rel="nofollow">http://www.burbankdigest.com/node/215</a><br />
                         &#8220;The Negro youth and moderate[s] must be made to understand that if they succumb to revolutionary teachings, they will be dead revolutionaries.&#8221;<br />
 J. Edgar Hoover,FBI Chief, re:COINTELPRO  against the Black Panther Party</p>
<p>COINTELPRO (acronym for Counter Intelligence Program)<br />
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia<br />
Federal Bureau of Investigation<br />
In August 1967, the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) instructed its program &#8220;COINTELPRO&#8221; to &#8220;neutralize&#8221; what the FBI called &#8220;black nationalist hate groups&#8221; and other dissident groups. In September of 1968, FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover described the Black Panthers as &#8220;the greatest threat to the internal security of the country.&#8221;[32] By 1969, the Black Panthers were the primary target of COINTELPRO&#8230;.the BPP was profoundly influenced by Maoist thought&#8230;. They were the target of 233 of the 295 authorized &#8220;Black Nationalist&#8221; COINTELPRO actions. The goals of the program were to prevent the unification of militant black nationalist groups and to weaken the power of their leaders, as well as to discredit the groups to reduce their support and growth&#8230;.</p>
<p>J. Edgar Hoover&#8230; supervised an extensive program of counter-organizing that included surveillance and eavesdropping, infiltration, harassment, false testimony, and a laundry list of other tactics designed to incriminate Party members and drain the organization of resources and manpower. (pg.45)” Through these tactics, it was thought that their potential for further advancement would diminish and probability of continuing to serve as a threat to the general power structure of the U.S,&#8230;</p>
<p>From 1966 to 1972, when the party was most active, several departments hired significantly more African-American police officers. Some of these black officers played prominent roles in shutting down the Panthers&#8217; activities. In Chicago in 1969 for example, Panthers Mark Clark and Fred Hampton were both killed in a police raid (In which five of the officers present were African American) by Sergeant James Davis, an African American officer.[citation needed] In cities such as New York City, black police officers were used to infiltrate Panther meetings. By 1972, almost every major police department was fully integrated&#8230;.</p>
<p>Although COINTELPRO was commissioned ostensibly to prevent violence, it used some tactics to foster violence. For instance, the FBI tried to &#8220;intensify the degree of animosity&#8221; between the Black Panthers and the Blackstone Rangers, a Chicago gang. They sent an anonymous letter to the Ranger’s gang leader claiming that the Panthers were threatening his life, a letter whose intent was to induce &#8220;reprisals&#8221; against Panther leadership. In Southern California similar actions were taken to exacerbate a &#8220;gang war&#8221; between the Black Panther Party and a group called the US Organization. Violent conflict between these two groups, including shootings and beatings, led to the deaths of at least four Black Panther Party members. FBI agents claimed credit for instigating some of the violence between the two groups. [33]<br />
On January 17, 1969, Los Angeles Panther Captain Bunchy Carter and Deputy Minister John Huggins were killed in Campbell Hall on the UCLA campus, in a gun battle with members of US Organization stemming from a dispute over who would control UCLA&#8217;s black studies program. Another shootout between the two groups on March 17 led to further injuries. It was alleged that the FBI had sent a provocative letter to US Organization in an attempt to create antagonism between US and the Panthers. [34] One of the most notorious actions was a Chicago Police raid of the home of Panther organizer Fred Hampton on December 4, 1969. The raid had been orchestrated by the police in conjunction with the FBI. The FBI was complicit in many of the actions. The people inside the home had been drugged by an FBI informant, William O&#8217;Neal, and were asleep at the time of the raid. Hampton was shot and killed, as was the guard, Mark Clark. The others were dragged into the street, beaten, and subsequently charged with assault. These charges were later dropped. The Chicago Police and FBI were never investigated or charged for their role in the event. [35]</p>
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