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		<title>By: B99</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/the-two-state-solution-israeli-style/#comment-50092</link>
		<dc:creator>B99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 23:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon S - Two good reasons that Obama will likely cave to the pro-settler lobby, is that anti-settler sentiment in Israel and among US Jews is pretty passionless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon S &#8211; Two good reasons that Obama will likely cave to the pro-settler lobby, is that anti-settler sentiment in Israel and among US Jews is pretty passionless.</p>
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		<title>By: bozhidar balkas vancouver</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/the-two-state-solution-israeli-style/#comment-49665</link>
		<dc:creator>bozhidar balkas vancouver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 13:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>when any cult wld proclaim that &#039;god&#039;  had chosen them to &#039;lead&#039; the world, then, to me, that wld be a casus belli.
so, is it any it any wonder, that hebrews evanesced in wars? Later, judeans bit the dust and possibly entirely disappeared?

but even euros with the moshe&#039;s cult suffered for accepting mad priestly proclamation.
and their proclamation of supremacy will always be hated.
folks, this is called antisemitism even tho euros with cult are not semites at all.
in any case, this cult may also evanesce ust like jones&#039; and koresh&#039;s have. tnx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>when any cult wld proclaim that &#8216;god&#8217;  had chosen them to &#8216;lead&#8217; the world, then, to me, that wld be a casus belli.<br />
so, is it any it any wonder, that hebrews evanesced in wars? Later, judeans bit the dust and possibly entirely disappeared?</p>
<p>but even euros with the moshe&#8217;s cult suffered for accepting mad priestly proclamation.<br />
and their proclamation of supremacy will always be hated.<br />
folks, this is called antisemitism even tho euros with cult are not semites at all.<br />
in any case, this cult may also evanesce ust like jones&#8217; and koresh&#8217;s have. tnx</p>
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		<title>By: jon s</title>
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		<dc:creator>jon s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 11:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(I&#039;m back!!)
A few months ago I contributed to DV for a time, seeking mainly to inject an element of sanity ,balance an fairness into discussions of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, from the perspective of the Israeli Left.
I stopped writing for personal reasons, but also because I was dismayed by the tendency towards hate-filled demonization of Israel ,and even outright Anti-Semitic ravings from writers like Mulga.
Anyway , I&#039;ve decided to try again...
In the Middle East one can always find resons for pessimism, and the pessimists are often proved to be correct. Right now the one  ray of light appears to be the policy that President Obama has formulated. It will be interesting to see whether he caves to the pro-settler lobby.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(I&#8217;m back!!)<br />
A few months ago I contributed to DV for a time, seeking mainly to inject an element of sanity ,balance an fairness into discussions of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, from the perspective of the Israeli Left.<br />
I stopped writing for personal reasons, but also because I was dismayed by the tendency towards hate-filled demonization of Israel ,and even outright Anti-Semitic ravings from writers like Mulga.<br />
Anyway , I&#8217;ve decided to try again&#8230;<br />
In the Middle East one can always find resons for pessimism, and the pessimists are often proved to be correct. Right now the one  ray of light appears to be the policy that President Obama has formulated. It will be interesting to see whether he caves to the pro-settler lobby.</p>
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		<title>By: mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 10:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hang about!  Surely this is not happening in the &#039;only democracy in the 
Middle East&#039;?

This article in the Independent corrects that lie.

Shin Bet &#039;R Us.

 
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israeli-agents-to-screen-judges-before-appointment-1738070.html
 
Israeli agents to screen judges before appointment

Fury as security service gets veto over judiciary
By Ben Lynfield in Jerusalem

Thursday, 9 July 2009 

Israel&#039;s internal security service has been given a de facto veto over the appointment of judges in an unprecedented decision that has the country&#039;s embattled liberals up in arms.

The move by the Judges Selection Committee on Friday is likely to make it harder for members of Israel&#039;s Arab minority and others with views that are not mainstream to become judges, according to the Association for Civil Rights in Israel (Acri). Zahava Galon, a former MP of the dovish Meretz party, said the decision was &quot;a scandal&quot;. She said: &quot;We are turning into a kind of police state with Big Brother everywhere. A judge shouldn&#039;t have to pass the Shin Bet&#039;s tests. This is just something that isn&#039;t done.&quot;

The selection committee&#039;s membership – partly determined by the ruling coalition – has become more nationalist and intent on limiting the power of the Supreme Court due to appointments made since Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu took office in April.

Increasing the powers of the security service, the Shin Bet, were part of an attempt to erode the judiciary&#039;s ability to protect civil liberties and human rights in a country that lacked a constitution to defend them, Ms Galon said. The security establishment has always enjoyed wide powers but the Supreme Court was seen as a bastion of liberalism that counterbalanced that and helped define Israel as a democracy.

Dan Yakir, the chief legal counsel for Acri, called the step &quot;troublesome&quot;. But supporters of the change argue that it is necessary for &quot;state security&quot;.

Uri Ariel, a far-right MP newly appointed to the selection committee, said allowing Shin Bet to screen candidates was necessary because judges reviewed highly classified security information &quot;and this can directly influence state security&quot;.

&quot;Until now, the clearance for judges was low even though they were seeing the most sensitive material. This was anomalous and inappropriate,&quot; he said.

Mr Ariel said the screening would not apply to serving judges, only to new ones. The new policy was &quot;experimental&quot; and would be reviewed in a year.

The Shin Bet&#039;s assessment is only a recommendation but it is thought unlikely that the committee would endorse those rejected by Shin Bet.

&quot;I have never encountered an incident in which the government didn&#039;t accept the Shin Bet&#039;s advice,&quot; said the human rights lawyer Michael Sfard, who is representing an Arab-Israeli whom the agency deemed inappropriate to serve as a mosque leader. Mr Sfard said he was &quot;not surprised&quot; by the move and that it fitted with the norm of the Shin Bet screening the appointments of high officials and educators in Arab schools. The difference in this case, he said, was that the agency&#039;s role was being openly acknowledged. 

The Shin Bet has asked for the power to screen judges in the past but has been rebuffed by the committee, which comprises judges and politicians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hang about!  Surely this is not happening in the &#8216;only democracy in the<br />
Middle East&#8217;?</p>
<p>This article in the Independent corrects that lie.</p>
<p>Shin Bet &#8216;R Us.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israeli-agents-to-screen-judges-before-appointment-1738070.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israeli-agents-to-screen-judges-before-appointment-1738070.html</a></p>
<p>Israeli agents to screen judges before appointment</p>
<p>Fury as security service gets veto over judiciary<br />
By Ben Lynfield in Jerusalem</p>
<p>Thursday, 9 July 2009 </p>
<p>Israel&#8217;s internal security service has been given a de facto veto over the appointment of judges in an unprecedented decision that has the country&#8217;s embattled liberals up in arms.</p>
<p>The move by the Judges Selection Committee on Friday is likely to make it harder for members of Israel&#8217;s Arab minority and others with views that are not mainstream to become judges, according to the Association for Civil Rights in Israel (Acri). Zahava Galon, a former MP of the dovish Meretz party, said the decision was &#8220;a scandal&#8221;. She said: &#8220;We are turning into a kind of police state with Big Brother everywhere. A judge shouldn&#8217;t have to pass the Shin Bet&#8217;s tests. This is just something that isn&#8217;t done.&#8221;</p>
<p>The selection committee&#8217;s membership – partly determined by the ruling coalition – has become more nationalist and intent on limiting the power of the Supreme Court due to appointments made since Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu took office in April.</p>
<p>Increasing the powers of the security service, the Shin Bet, were part of an attempt to erode the judiciary&#8217;s ability to protect civil liberties and human rights in a country that lacked a constitution to defend them, Ms Galon said. The security establishment has always enjoyed wide powers but the Supreme Court was seen as a bastion of liberalism that counterbalanced that and helped define Israel as a democracy.</p>
<p>Dan Yakir, the chief legal counsel for Acri, called the step &#8220;troublesome&#8221;. But supporters of the change argue that it is necessary for &#8220;state security&#8221;.</p>
<p>Uri Ariel, a far-right MP newly appointed to the selection committee, said allowing Shin Bet to screen candidates was necessary because judges reviewed highly classified security information &#8220;and this can directly influence state security&#8221;.</p>
<p>&#8220;Until now, the clearance for judges was low even though they were seeing the most sensitive material. This was anomalous and inappropriate,&#8221; he said.</p>
<p>Mr Ariel said the screening would not apply to serving judges, only to new ones. The new policy was &#8220;experimental&#8221; and would be reviewed in a year.</p>
<p>The Shin Bet&#8217;s assessment is only a recommendation but it is thought unlikely that the committee would endorse those rejected by Shin Bet.</p>
<p>&#8220;I have never encountered an incident in which the government didn&#8217;t accept the Shin Bet&#8217;s advice,&#8221; said the human rights lawyer Michael Sfard, who is representing an Arab-Israeli whom the agency deemed inappropriate to serve as a mosque leader. Mr Sfard said he was &#8220;not surprised&#8221; by the move and that it fitted with the norm of the Shin Bet screening the appointments of high officials and educators in Arab schools. The difference in this case, he said, was that the agency&#8217;s role was being openly acknowledged. </p>
<p>The Shin Bet has asked for the power to screen judges in the past but has been rebuffed by the committee, which comprises judges and politicians.</p>
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		<title>By: Ismail Zayid</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/the-two-state-solution-israeli-style/#comment-49647</link>
		<dc:creator>Ismail Zayid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 23:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jonathan Cook describes accurately the unbearable conditions that the Palestinian people are subjected to under the illegal Israeli ocupation. This is an inherent component of the Zionist program since its inception. Namely, to subject the Palestinian people to deprivation, dispossession and humiliation for the ultimate purpose of their complete ethnic cleansing. Sadly, the world community remains predominently silent and some of the Palestinian leaders remain subservient and go along with the treatment that their people are being subjected to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonathan Cook describes accurately the unbearable conditions that the Palestinian people are subjected to under the illegal Israeli ocupation. This is an inherent component of the Zionist program since its inception. Namely, to subject the Palestinian people to deprivation, dispossession and humiliation for the ultimate purpose of their complete ethnic cleansing. Sadly, the world community remains predominently silent and some of the Palestinian leaders remain subservient and go along with the treatment that their people are being subjected to.</p>
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