Comments on: The Idiotic Hubris of the Washington Post http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/the-idiotic-hubris-of-the-washington-post/ a radical newsletter in the struggle for peace and social justice Thu, 08 Dec 2011 15:07:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Don Hawkins http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/the-idiotic-hubris-of-the-washington-post/#comment-49574 Don Hawkins Sat, 11 Jul 2009 16:27:42 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=9012#comment-49574 John that maybe true for some older of the brainwashed let's hope there are more who are not. The first way probably not a good ending. Calm at peace the truth the knowledge. John that maybe true for some older of the brainwashed let’s hope there are more who are not. The first way probably not a good ending. Calm at peace the truth the knowledge.

]]> By: john andrews http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/the-idiotic-hubris-of-the-washington-post/#comment-49573 john andrews Sat, 11 Jul 2009 15:38:35 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=9012#comment-49573 Ron, You might be interested in tthe following quote. Apparently it's from the Washington Post from more than a hundred years ago on the eve of the US's first serious foreign adventure into Asia. I found in Robert Asprey's book 'War in the Shadows' (page 200): "…A new consciousness seems to have come upon us – the consciousness of strength – and with it a new appetite, the yearning to show our strength…ambition, interest, land hunger, pride, the mere joy of fighting, whatever it may be, we are animated by a new sensation. We are face to face with a strange destiny. The taste of Empire is in the mouth of the people even as the taste of blood in the jungle. It means an Imperial Policy, the Republic, renascent, taking her place with the armed nations." Ron,

You might be interested in tthe following quote. Apparently it’s from the Washington Post from more than a hundred years ago on the eve of the US’s first serious foreign adventure into Asia. I found in Robert Asprey’s book ‘War in the Shadows’ (page 200):

“…A new consciousness seems to have come upon us – the consciousness of strength – and with it a new appetite, the yearning to show our strength…ambition, interest, land hunger, pride, the mere joy of fighting, whatever it may be, we are animated by a new sensation. We are face to face with a strange destiny. The taste of Empire is in the mouth of the people even as the taste of blood in the jungle. It means an Imperial Policy, the Republic, renascent, taking her place with the armed nations.”

]]> By: Don Hawkins http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/the-idiotic-hubris-of-the-washington-post/#comment-49561 Don Hawkins Sat, 11 Jul 2009 11:52:34 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=9012#comment-49561 I keep hearing it's not what people want that's here in the States. Well short term as the system falls apart and then in about 5 months that little flu problem not so much want but need. It seems the media still try's as it is a business after all to keep people believing all is normal sort of. Far from it as long term 10 years then twenty there will be a new normal alright. Why can't we face the problems with courage and reason, why. Because so far it's just more lies and disinformation and stupidity. Higher or lower tax's is the question well that's lies and disinformation as we are all to the point where money is the least of are problems. War what is it good for absolutely nothing. Tuff times ahead two million to start Capital. Clown town USA, not true, so far oh yes it is. I keep hearing it’s not what people want that’s here in the States. Well short term as the system falls apart and then in about 5 months that little flu problem not so much want but need. It seems the media still try’s as it is a business after all to keep people believing all is normal sort of. Far from it as long term 10 years then twenty there will be a new normal alright. Why can’t we face the problems with courage and reason, why. Because so far it’s just more lies and disinformation and stupidity. Higher or lower tax’s is the question well that’s lies and disinformation as we are all to the point where money is the least of are problems. War what is it good for absolutely nothing. Tuff times ahead two million to start Capital. Clown town USA, not true, so far oh yes it is.

]]> By: Don Hawkins http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/the-idiotic-hubris-of-the-washington-post/#comment-49559 Don Hawkins Sat, 11 Jul 2009 11:15:41 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=9012#comment-49559 The putrid sewer of lies and disinformation that is its ‘Free Press’ must never be under-estimated. I have to admit to watch the insanity here in the States is strange to see. Yes lies and disinformation but it's the stupidity to get the lies and disinformation out that is now to the point of disbelief. It looks like by November it will be harder to keep this insanity going as the economy will be in even worst shape but sure they will keep trying probably pitting one side against the other as they do now. We are all in deep do do and yet to listen to the media it's just business as normal and normal is the wrong word. I guess it's like that frog you put into the pot of cold water then turn on the heat and by the time the frog realizes what's up to late. It is strange as we are all that's all frog's now and yet the same old game goes on. Still time and two million to start Capital here in the States could be a start but I guess the lies and disinformation is the stronger force. Climate change and what needs to be done to try is not happening not even close. Here in the States it's still bring the system back to normal that is not going to happen kind of a nobrainer but that seems to be the thinking. It's the same with Rupert Murdoch and his thinking as how much money was paid out to cover that insanity over and it seems the money is still very important to some and the last time I checked you can't eat the stuff and the insanity goes on and of course the question for how much longer? Two million Capital to start. The putrid sewer of lies and disinformation that is its ‘Free Press’ must never be under-estimated. I have to admit to watch the insanity here in the States is strange to see. Yes lies and disinformation but it’s the stupidity to get the lies and disinformation out that is now to the point of disbelief. It looks like by November it will be harder to keep this insanity going as the economy will be in even worst shape but sure they will keep trying probably pitting one side against the other as they do now. We are all in deep do do and yet to listen to the media it’s just business as normal and normal is the wrong word. I guess it’s like that frog you put into the pot of cold water then turn on the heat and by the time the frog realizes what’s up to late. It is strange as we are all that’s all frog’s now and yet the same old game goes on. Still time and two million to start Capital here in the States could be a start but I guess the lies and disinformation is the stronger force. Climate change and what needs to be done to try is not happening not even close. Here in the States it’s still bring the system back to normal that is not going to happen kind of a nobrainer but that seems to be the thinking. It’s the same with Rupert Murdoch and his thinking as how much money was paid out to cover that insanity over and it seems the money is still very important to some and the last time I checked you can’t eat the stuff and the insanity goes on and of course the question for how much longer? Two million Capital to start.

]]> By: Mulga Mumblebrain http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/the-idiotic-hubris-of-the-washington-post/#comment-49554 Mulga Mumblebrain Sat, 11 Jul 2009 07:13:49 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=9012#comment-49554 Don, the killer revelation concerning the News of the World bugging story is that the police have refused to prosecute Murdoch/Moloch's Evil Empire over these dastardly acts. Whether out of fear of the Evil Empire's media power, or politically directed acquiescence, it shows where real power resides in 'market capitalist democracy'. With the money, those who control it and their psychopathic enforcers in the media sewer. As for the 'Washington Post', I saw similar stuff just now on the BBC, another septic tank of Rightwing groupthink and indoctrination. Several minutes of sullage concerning the 'tragic' deaths of some trained UK killers in the neo-colonial bloodbath in Afghanistan. As ever, copying the Israelis and their ilk, loads of nauseating, faked, self-pitying emotion over these deaths, a plethora of lies concerning why these killers were several thousand miles from home killing people who had no argument with the UK save its detestable Government has joined in the Yankee led attempt to dominate their country, and no mention, whatsoever, of Afghan deaths, now in the hundreds of thousands since 2001. The BBC 'correspondent' , a plain imbecile, seemed to lose her historical bearings, and started squawking about 'winning hearts and minds', no doubt hopeful of impressing her Blairite bosses or future employers in the US. She seems, the dullard, not to have noticed that the slogan for this savage counter-insurgency war, is 'protecting the civilian population', from the dastardly Taliban. This is, of course, the same sort of 'protection' that the Mafia offer. You take the 'protection' or we kill your children. If you live in Taliban controlled areas, you will get, as in Indochina or Korea, a 'free-fire zone' where villages are destroyed at dead of night in the most cowardly, craven, manner imaginable, by missiles fired from drones. Or perhaps your wedding celebrations will be bombed, followed up by targeting of the funeral procession. I imagine even Orwell would blanch at the doublespeak of calling this trademark mass murder 'protecting the people' from the Taliban, who happen to be their brothers and neighbours, but the psychopathy, moral insanity and sheer evil of the West and the putrid sewer of lies and disinformation that is its 'Free Press' must never be under-estimated. Don, the killer revelation concerning the News of the World bugging story is that the police have refused to prosecute Murdoch/Moloch’s Evil Empire over these dastardly acts. Whether out of fear of the Evil Empire’s media power, or politically directed acquiescence, it shows where real power resides in ‘market capitalist democracy’. With the money, those who control it and their psychopathic enforcers in the media sewer. As for the ‘Washington Post’, I saw similar stuff just now on the BBC, another septic tank of Rightwing groupthink and indoctrination. Several minutes of sullage concerning the ‘tragic’ deaths of some trained UK killers in the neo-colonial bloodbath in Afghanistan. As ever, copying the Israelis and their ilk, loads of nauseating, faked, self-pitying emotion over these deaths, a plethora of lies concerning why these killers were several thousand miles from home killing people who had no argument with the UK save its detestable Government has joined in the Yankee led attempt to dominate their country, and no mention, whatsoever, of Afghan deaths, now in the hundreds of thousands since 2001. The BBC ‘correspondent’ , a plain imbecile, seemed to lose her historical bearings, and started squawking about ‘winning hearts and minds’, no doubt hopeful of impressing her Blairite bosses or future employers in the US. She seems, the dullard, not to have noticed that the slogan for this savage counter-insurgency war, is ‘protecting the civilian population’, from the dastardly Taliban. This is, of course, the same sort of ‘protection’ that the Mafia offer. You take the ‘protection’ or we kill your children. If you live in Taliban controlled areas, you will get, as in Indochina or Korea, a ‘free-fire zone’ where villages are destroyed at dead of night in the most cowardly, craven, manner imaginable, by missiles fired from drones. Or perhaps your wedding celebrations will be bombed, followed up by targeting of the funeral procession. I imagine even Orwell would blanch at the doublespeak of calling this trademark mass murder ‘protecting the people’ from the Taliban, who happen to be their brothers and neighbours, but the psychopathy, moral insanity and sheer evil of the West and the putrid sewer of lies and disinformation that is its ‘Free Press’ must never be under-estimated.

]]> By: Jeff http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/the-idiotic-hubris-of-the-washington-post/#comment-49549 Jeff Sat, 11 Jul 2009 04:23:59 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=9012#comment-49549 Burn! This piece proves "stupidity". Burn! This piece proves “stupidity”.

]]> By: Don Hawkins http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/the-idiotic-hubris-of-the-washington-post/#comment-49529 Don Hawkins Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:12:10 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=9012#comment-49529 http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/jul/09/andrew-neil-murdoch-andy-coulson Again so far this seems to be a non story very hush hush. http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/jul/09/andrew-neil-murdoch-andy-coulson

Again so far this seems to be a non story very hush hush.

]]> By: Don Hawkins http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/the-idiotic-hubris-of-the-washington-post/#comment-49527 Don Hawkins Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:04:03 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=9012#comment-49527 Former Sunday Times editor Andrew Neil described the story last night as "one of the most significant media stories of modern times". "It suggests that rather than being a one-off journalist or rogue private investigator, it was systemic throughout the News of the World, and to a lesser extent the Sun," he said. "Particularly in the News of the World, this was a newsroom out of control Everyone who knows the News of the World, everybody knows this was going on. But it did no good to talk about it. One News of the World journalist said to me … it was dangerous to talk about it." http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/jul/08/murdoch-papers-phone-hacking Here is a little news on the news. So far it seems hush hush this news on the news. Former Sunday Times editor Andrew Neil described the story last night as “one of the most significant media stories of modern times”. “It suggests that rather than being a one-off journalist or rogue private investigator, it was systemic throughout the News of the World, and to a lesser extent the Sun,” he said. “Particularly in the News of the World, this was a newsroom out of control Everyone who knows the News of the World, everybody knows this was going on. But it did no good to talk about it. One News of the World journalist said to me … it was dangerous to talk about it.”

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/jul/08/murdoch-papers-phone-hacking

Here is a little news on the news. So far it seems hush hush this news on the news.

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