As unemployment hits 3m here in the UK (the true figure is more like 5m and rising) young kids are ‘joining up’ as there are no other jobs.

They are probably influenced by the stream of propaganda for this illegal and cruel war coming out of the trash newspapers (mostly Murdoch owned) and the terrestrial TV channels, the ZBC, ITV and Sky the latter also Murdoch owned.

On Thursday both 24 hr news channels, BBC and Sky, carried live coverage of Col Thorneloe’s funeral at the Guards Chapel with Prince Charles and his consort? the Duchess of Cornwall in attendance to add gravitas and recognition to the sad proceedings.

Yesterday Sky were broadcasting the funeral of 18 year old Trooper Joshua Hammond of the Tank Regiment live from Plymouth. His colleagues were in attendance and looked like children. An Irishman Enda Brady was doing the commentary and it was revolting. All buttons were being pushed to arouse the viewers’ ‘patriotism’. Bagpipes were played following a gun salute.

My paper, the Surrey Advertiser, a weekly in the Guardian group, has the front page headlined ‘Parents so proud of their son killed……’ and a whole page inside of photos and reports of the Princess of Wales Regiment marching through Guildford. I was not in the gawping crowd.

To date there have as many deaths of British military as there as days in the month. Three of them were 18 years old.

There is obvious MOD and No 10 involvement in this manipulative crapoganda. What a waste of lives. It should be NON Est Dulce et Decorum Pro Patria Mori unless in self defence.

You probably notice the connection of the monarchy in the names of some of the regiments and their attendance at these morbid ceremonies.

There is a weekly broadcast of the theatrical procession of identical hearses through a village called Wootton Bassett near to the RAF station where the mutiliated corpses are repatriated. None of the wounded and maimed who are probably on the flights are shown or even mentioned of course.

Right as always.

David,

Respect man, you’ve been there.

Joed,

I think you’re mistaken wishing for a leader. Leadership is grossly overrated. It’s also a bit of copout hoping for some enlightened soul to lead us to the promised land – it ducks responsibility for being your own change. Thing to do is… simply stop being a follower; read; argue peacefully with others – turn them round with the power of reason, or at least show them you’re not taken in. If you want to know how this could produce radical change visit my website. Free Democracy is a solution http://www.freedemocrats.co.uk.

Plus, the analogy between criminal gangs and the military is . . . weak. The military is, unfortunately, necessary. There really are nations and people out there who want to kill us. There really are nations (Russia, China) who want to replace us as the world’s greatest power. Do you really think they would be better than the U.S., even as flawed as the U.S. has been over the past eight or nine years?

There can be a lot of debate about foreign policy goals and strategy, but if you are really proposing to eliminate the military that defends us, then, well, I think you might want to read some history.

Morning,
Did you happen to read James Hansen’s new post. Here is a few words from that post.

The truth is, the climate course set by Waxman-Markey is a disaster course. It is an
exceedingly inefficient way to get a small reduction of emissions. It is less than worthless,
because it would delay by at least a decade or two the possibility of getting on a path that is
fundamentally sound from economic and climate preservation standpoints.
Officials in the Obama administration privately admit that the science demands much
more rapid emission cuts than Waxman-Markey would yield, but they say that their hands are
tied by a recalcitrant Congress. Is that so? Has President Obama provided direction or
guidelines for what he expects from Congress?

Al Gore probably has the strongest voice that the President would listen to, so assessment
on that front is useful. Last year Al called for rewiring America within 10 years – a national
electric grid with renewable energies and energy efficiency replacing 100 percent of coal use.
Now he supports Waxman-Markey, which locks in negligible movement in that direction –
indeed, the progress in that direction might be greater without Waxman-Markey, and surely
would be greater with a rising carbon price. Perhaps “100% carbon-free in 10 years” was only
meant as an idealistic goal to be abandoned. James Hansen

Again what Hansen wrote he was being nice. He did put a few clues in his witting and an ice free World was one of them. Now just on the off chance that the science is correct and what we now see with our own eye’s if you look Earth 2100 is on the way. If the climate bill is a disaster course and that can’t even get passed what are the chances a real try at this will happen about zero. I guess the thinking will change in a few years and then we could hear President Palin the planes are ready awaiting our order. 12 trillion to take out 35ppm oh well. Basically what we hear from most on bringing this system back to normal is let’s take the easy way out and then comes gated communities then bunkers or deep do do. I have to admit watching the stupidity on TV is nothing more than a waste of time. Last night on Glenn Beck he had a few words on climate change and many more not just him the push is on. Don’t worry what needs to be done will not happen as the low road will win the easy way out on the dot. Can you do that let your mind go out into space and look back at Earth. Try it what do you see?

Look again at that dot. That’s here. That’s home. That’s us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every “superstar”, every “supreme leader”, every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there — on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
Carl Sagan

Don

Read DV so called leaders you people are pathetic with your idealistic speech’s that is nothing more than illusion.

I wonder how many millionaire murderers have ever been executed. None?

You would serve yourself better if you remembered that posters on this board come from all walks of life and have many different experiences.

During my one and only tour in Viet Nam, I was formally disciplined and sent to the stockade three times. Why? For refusing to shoot those unarmed gook civilians.

Do you know what the MPs did to people who refused to shoot the little yellow people? They beat the shit out of them, that’s what. I acquired some nice new teeth courtesy of Uncle Sam. And my ribs have healed nicely, thank you, with but an infrequent twinge from the dampness.

And what about you, joed? Have you had your face rearranged lately for standing up to the government?

James Hansen New again an eye opener.

And as the economy continues to plunge southward and as Obama and the wealthy and powerful begin to feel the pressure and bullets from below, a war to save America from the godless foreigners will be needed for distraction.

And the Italian kid and the Black kid and the Hispanic kid will find themselves in basic training courtesy of the newly instated military draft, absolutely necessary, of course, to save America from those godless foreigners.

The undefined kid will already have made his mark, having gotten into the Marines early (assuming he hasn’t gotten his head blown off in some police action on the other side of the world or isn’t stuck in a closet in some VA facility in Alabama or Arkansas).

And the winners? Why, the bonus mongers at Goldman Sachs and the landed wealthy and the politicians that are so good at working the honor and duty and courage bit, of course.