Comments on: Netanyahu Activates Ticking Time Bomb Despite U.S. Pressure to Halt Building at Karm al-Mufti http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/netanyahu-activates-ticking-time-bomb-despite-u-s-pressure-to-halt-building-at-karm-al-mufti/ a radical newsletter in the struggle for peace and social justice Thu, 08 Dec 2011 15:07:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Don Hawkins http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/netanyahu-activates-ticking-time-bomb-despite-u-s-pressure-to-halt-building-at-karm-al-mufti/#comment-50394 Don Hawkins Thu, 23 Jul 2009 11:10:47 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=9273#comment-50394 Oh I forgot for all of you so called leaders and Glenn we will buy your book and for those of you who have not written a book yet please do we will buy it. I have almost ten dollars in a jar. I have been saving or should I go shopping. Please tell me what to do. Oh I forgot for all of you so called leaders and Glenn we will buy your book and for those of you who have not written a book yet please do we will buy it. I have almost ten dollars in a jar. I have been saving or should I go shopping. Please tell me what to do.

]]> By: Don Hawkins http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/netanyahu-activates-ticking-time-bomb-despite-u-s-pressure-to-halt-building-at-karm-al-mufti/#comment-50393 Don Hawkins Thu, 23 Jul 2009 11:04:20 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=9273#comment-50393 Sent this to CNBC a few day's ago. Oh boy, Trust in government and Obama is headed South and the business sector is headed North. Oh goodie. Dick Morris was on Hannity last night and said Obama is down in the polls and now policy makers who have to get reelected are moving away from this administration. Yep things will be back to normal very soon. I think we all knew that Capitalism and the free market is the only answer. Don't think of the problems as being to big. From the East coast to the West coast in the valleys and the mountains in the towns and cities the board rooms of free market Capitalism are this very second hard at work using the wisdom they only have to bring us back to normal. Go for it people go for it we are depending on you and we KNOW you can do it. Don Read DV so called leaders. We love you we love you very very much. Sent this to CNBC a few day’s ago.
Oh boy,

Trust in government and Obama is headed South and the business sector is headed North. Oh goodie. Dick Morris was on Hannity last night and said Obama is down in the polls and now policy makers who have to get reelected are moving away from this administration. Yep things will be back to normal very soon. I think we all knew that Capitalism and the free market is the only answer. Don’t think of the problems as being to big. From the East coast to the West coast in the valleys and the mountains in the towns and cities the board rooms of free market Capitalism are this very second hard at work using the wisdom they only have to bring us back to normal. Go for it people go for it we are depending on you and we KNOW you can do it.

Don

Read DV so called leaders. We love you we love you very very much.

]]> By: Don Hawkins http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/netanyahu-activates-ticking-time-bomb-despite-u-s-pressure-to-halt-building-at-karm-al-mufti/#comment-50392 Don Hawkins Thu, 23 Jul 2009 10:55:28 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=9273#comment-50392 Mulga I couldn't have written it better myself. Mulga I couldn’t have written it better myself.

]]> By: Mulga Mumblebrain http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/netanyahu-activates-ticking-time-bomb-despite-u-s-pressure-to-halt-building-at-karm-al-mufti/#comment-50388 Mulga Mumblebrain Thu, 23 Jul 2009 10:29:17 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=9273#comment-50388 Sean, I was impressed by a brief look at the ponerology website, by the concept of 'characterpaths', which I took to mean those not innately psychopathic, but who had had it 'thrust upon' them by the real pathocrats. I sometimes find it hard to distinguish between the two, but it does seem to me that psychopathy is, in a way, transmissible, like a disease of the soul. If your spiritual immune system is deficient, in that you haven't got the bottle to stand up to the manipulators and degraders, or are so brainwashed that you cannot tell your moral arse from your ethical elbow any longer, then you're likely to fall into bad ways, simply to get along. Anything for a quiet life. Resisting evil, when it is ubiquitous, all-powerful and paints itself as good, takes a lot of guts. To make matters worse, it's a losing struggle, as the pathocrats have things so tightly controlled that I have no expectation that they will be overthrown before they destroy humanity. Then, of course, despair becomes a seductive poison itself. I simply cannot believe people have learned so little from experience that they expected anything different from Obama. There is the two hundred plus years of absolute plutocratic rule in the US. Followed by the last thirty odd years of extreme reaction, the greatest transfer of wealth in human history to the fewest hands, while US median wages went nowhere. Then you have the betrayals of Clinton, Blair and, in Australia, Rudd, all of whom promised 'change' and delivered exactly the same, and then worse, of the policies, attitudes and ideology of their pretend 'adversaries'. Obama is right out of the same mould, although the rhetorical skills and the skin tone introduce novel elements. The system cannot be reformed. If it looked at all likely that a President or Prime Minister would reverse the tide of inequality and elite kleptomania, he or she would be eliminated, politically or, if needs be, physically. If the masses revolted, throwing off the lifetime of brainwashing and the incessant media indoctrination, then the public would be abolished- in other words an authoritarian regime would be installed to protect the real rulers. And all the while, at a time when humanity requires the greatest revolution of heads, hearts and souls in its history, the process of unnatural selection that is market capitalism, produces a ruling elite and an operating system ever more ruthless, ever more obsessed by gain and greed and ever more blind and indifferent to the fate of all others and everything else. Sean, I was impressed by a brief look at the ponerology website, by the concept of ‘characterpaths’, which I took to mean those not innately psychopathic, but who had had it ‘thrust upon’ them by the real pathocrats. I sometimes find it hard to distinguish between the two, but it does seem to me that psychopathy is, in a way, transmissible, like a disease of the soul. If your spiritual immune system is deficient, in that you haven’t got the bottle to stand up to the manipulators and degraders, or are so brainwashed that you cannot tell your moral arse from your ethical elbow any longer, then you’re likely to fall into bad ways, simply to get along. Anything for a quiet life. Resisting evil, when it is ubiquitous, all-powerful and paints itself as good, takes a lot of guts. To make matters worse, it’s a losing struggle, as the pathocrats have things so tightly controlled that I have no expectation that they will be overthrown before they destroy humanity. Then, of course, despair becomes a seductive poison itself.
I simply cannot believe people have learned so little from experience that they expected anything different from Obama. There is the two hundred plus years of absolute plutocratic rule in the US. Followed by the last thirty odd years of extreme reaction, the greatest transfer of wealth in human history to the fewest hands, while US median wages went nowhere. Then you have the betrayals of Clinton, Blair and, in Australia, Rudd, all of whom promised ‘change’ and delivered exactly the same, and then worse, of the policies, attitudes and ideology of their pretend ‘adversaries’. Obama is right out of the same mould, although the rhetorical skills and the skin tone introduce novel elements. The system cannot be reformed. If it looked at all likely that a President or Prime Minister would reverse the tide of inequality and elite kleptomania, he or she would be eliminated, politically or, if needs be, physically. If the masses revolted, throwing off the lifetime of brainwashing and the incessant media indoctrination, then the public would be abolished- in other words an authoritarian regime would be installed to protect the real rulers. And all the while, at a time when humanity requires the greatest revolution of heads, hearts and souls in its history, the process of unnatural selection that is market capitalism, produces a ruling elite and an operating system ever more ruthless, ever more obsessed by gain and greed and ever more blind and indifferent to the fate of all others and everything else.

]]> By: Sean O'Neil http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/netanyahu-activates-ticking-time-bomb-despite-u-s-pressure-to-halt-building-at-karm-al-mufti/#comment-50288 Sean O'Neil Tue, 21 Jul 2009 23:01:17 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=9273#comment-50288 Mulga Mumblebrain -- "After six months can there really still be people so deeply into denial that they do not recognise Obama’s modus operandi yet?" Yes indeed. All you have to do is visit one of these sites, and you will see the breadth and depth of denial... and it will astound you -- Daily Kos Digby's Hullabaloo Democratic Underground Huffington Post While there are cracks in the Donklebot Obamessiah facade, revealed by tepid criticism, most of the time people criticize Obama they do it in a way that makes it seem as though Obama's just stuck in a tough spot and forced to choose one evil or the other. This theme of Lesser Evils apparently is now the operating theme of all Democrats in America. Mulga Mumblebrain –

“After six months can there really still be people so deeply into denial that they do not recognise Obama’s modus operandi yet?”

Yes indeed. All you have to do is visit one of these sites, and you will see the breadth and depth of denial… and it will astound you –

Daily Kos
Digby’s Hullabaloo
Democratic Underground
Huffington Post

While there are cracks in the Donklebot Obamessiah facade, revealed by tepid criticism, most of the time people criticize Obama they do it in a way that makes it seem as though Obama’s just stuck in a tough spot and forced to choose one evil or the other.

This theme of Lesser Evils apparently is now the operating theme of all Democrats in America.

]]> By: opeluboy http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/netanyahu-activates-ticking-time-bomb-despite-u-s-pressure-to-halt-building-at-karm-al-mufti/#comment-50262 opeluboy Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:26:37 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=9273#comment-50262 MM, I have to disagree on one point. I don't think Obama will even make a speech about it. MM, I have to disagree on one point. I don’t think Obama will even make a speech about it.

]]> By: Mulga Mumblebrain http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/netanyahu-activates-ticking-time-bomb-despite-u-s-pressure-to-halt-building-at-karm-al-mufti/#comment-50198 Mulga Mumblebrain Tue, 21 Jul 2009 06:55:35 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=9273#comment-50198 Are we joking? The result of a Netanyahu versus Obama 'confrontation'...oops, I'm laughing so hard I'll have to re-adjust my surgical appliance..is as certain as the night following the day. Obama will pose and prattle, make a famous speech or two, full of high, soaring, rhetoric, be praised to the echo by the usual media propaganda suspects and the habitual suckers, then do what Rahm Emanuel tells him. That is, roll over, never forget that he is just an employee who can be brought low by the money power as surely as he was lifted up, and lecture the Palestinians to abjure violence. After six months can there really still be people so deeply into denial that they do not recognise Obama's modus operandi yet? Are we joking? The result of a Netanyahu versus Obama ‘confrontation’…oops, I’m laughing so hard I’ll have to re-adjust my surgical appliance..is as certain as the night following the day. Obama will pose and prattle, make a famous speech or two, full of high, soaring, rhetoric, be praised to the echo by the usual media propaganda suspects and the habitual suckers, then do what Rahm Emanuel tells him. That is, roll over, never forget that he is just an employee who can be brought low by the money power as surely as he was lifted up, and lecture the Palestinians to abjure violence. After six months can there really still be people so deeply into denial that they do not recognise Obama’s modus operandi yet?

]]> By: dan e http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/netanyahu-activates-ticking-time-bomb-despite-u-s-pressure-to-halt-building-at-karm-al-mufti/#comment-50166 dan e Mon, 20 Jul 2009 22:10:52 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=9273#comment-50166 more specifically: http://ziostreet.wordpress.com/ hold on to your hat, it'll curl your hair. more specifically: http://ziostreet.wordpress.com/

hold on to your hat, it’ll curl your hair.

]]> By: dan e http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/netanyahu-activates-ticking-time-bomb-despite-u-s-pressure-to-halt-building-at-karm-al-mufti/#comment-50165 dan e Mon, 20 Jul 2009 21:42:10 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=9273#comment-50165 stopmoskowitz.org also, "Z Street". (disclaimer: may be offensive to some, esp. sane people) stopmoskowitz.org

also, “Z Street”. (disclaimer: may be offensive to some, esp. sane people)

]]> By: bozh http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/netanyahu-activates-ticking-time-bomb-despite-u-s-pressure-to-halt-building-at-karm-al-mufti/#comment-50155 bozh Mon, 20 Jul 2009 16:34:54 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=9273#comment-50155 yes, establishment of an israeli or even a 'jewish' state must not happen yet! yes, establishment of an israeli or even a ‘jewish’ state must not happen yet!

]]> By: B99 http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/netanyahu-activates-ticking-time-bomb-despite-u-s-pressure-to-halt-building-at-karm-al-mufti/#comment-50153 B99 Mon, 20 Jul 2009 16:15:21 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=9273#comment-50153 There will likely be no confrontation between Obama and Netanyahu any time soon. Israel will stall until an election is in the works - be it US midterm, or Israeli, or even Palestinian. Only then, when the election results are in, will Israel re-size where things stand. And by then - we are heading for 2012 US presidential elections - time to stall some more (as the absorption of the WB into Israel continues.) Of course, by that time, Obama will want some sort of progress he can point to, so he'll likely be compromising right and left with Israel. There will likely be no confrontation between Obama and Netanyahu any time soon. Israel will stall until an election is in the works – be it US midterm, or Israeli, or even Palestinian. Only then, when the election results are in, will Israel re-size where things stand. And by then – we are heading for 2012 US presidential elections – time to stall some more (as the absorption of the WB into Israel continues.) Of course, by that time, Obama will want some sort of progress he can point to, so he’ll likely be compromising right and left with Israel.

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