Israel’s Discriminatory Land Policies

Israel’s late 1947-1948 “War of Independence” took six months to create a new Jewish state, excluding Arabs to the greatest extent possible. To accomplish it, widespread war crimes and atrocities were committed as about 800,000 people were brutally uprooted, ethnically cleansed, or murdered in cold blood. In addition, 531 villages and 11 urban neighborhoods in Tel-Aviv, Haifa, Jerusalem and other cities were destroyed and erased except in the collective memories of their inhabitants and descendants who’ll always consider them their rightful homes.

Shortly after, laws were passed to legitimize the seizure and exclusive Jewish use of Palestinian land. The June 1948 Abandoned Areas Ordinance referred to “any area or place conquered by or surrendered to armed forces or deserted by all or part of its inhabitants.” It gave the Israeli government exclusive jurisdiction rights, including “expropriation and confiscation (authority over) movable and immovable property, within any abandoned area.” It meant displaced Palestinians were prohibited from returning and claiming their property that by law was no longer theirs.

The September 1948 Area of Jurisdiction and Powers Ordinance stated that “Any law applying to the whole of the State of Israel” applies as well “to the whole of the area including…any part of Palestine which the Minister of Defence has defined by proclamation as being held by the Defence Army of Israel.” It meant that Palestinians lost all rights and were subject to whatever laws Israel enacted.

In March 1950, the Absentees’ Property Law (ABL) defined an absentee as: “a person who, at any time during the period between (November 29, 1947) and (May 19, 1948) has ceased to exist (and no longer) was a legal owner of any property situated in the area of Israel….”

The ABL transfered property owner rights to a Custodian of Absentee Property. It made him liable to the real owner for the value, but prohibited the return of his land. Israeli law stole it to have Palestinians remaining in Israel relocated and declared “Absentees,” no longer rightful owners of their property.

In July 1950, The Development Authority (Transfer of Property) Law was a legal ploy to shield Israel from being accused of having confiscated abandoned Palestinian land and whatever was on it.

The Development Authority (DA) was established as an independent body to buy, sell, lease, exchange, repair, build, develop and/or cultivate seized property. Henceforth, only transactions between Jews or a Jewish entity were allowed. It was understood that “under no circumstances should the (expelled) Arabs return to Israel.”

In July 1960, Israel Lands Administration Law established an “Israel Lands Administration. (ILA)” At the same time, Israel’s Basic Law affirmed that “ownership of Israel Lands, being the lands in Israel of the State, the Development Authority or the Keren Kayemet Le-Israel (KKL – Jewish National Fund, JNF), shall not be transferred either by sale or in any other manner.” Lands were defined to mean “land, houses, buildings and any thing permanently fixed to land.”

On its web site, the ILA states that it controls 93% of Israeli land as “public domain; that is, either property of the state, the Jewish National Fund (JNF) or the Development Authority (DA).” The ILA “is the government agency responsible for managing this land which comprises 4,820,500 acres (19,508,000 dunams). ‘Ownership’ of real estate usually means leasing rights from the ILA for 49 or 98 years.”

ILA’s legal framework stems from “four cornerstones:”

  • the 1960 Basic Law: Israel Lands;
  • the 1960 Lands Law;
  • the 1960 Israel Land Administration; and
  • the 1960 “Covenant between the State of Israel and the World Zionist Organization (Jewish National Fund).”

The Israel Land Council (ILC) determines ILA policy. The Council chairman is the “Vice Prime Minister, Minister of Industry, Trade, Labor and Communications.”

The ILC is comprised of 22 members, 12 from government ministries and 10 representing the JNF.

ILA functions include:

  • assuring that national land use conforms with Israeli laws;
  • protecting and supervising state lands;
  • making them available for public use;
  • planning, developing and managing state land reserves;
  • initiating planning and development, including relocating existing occupants, meaning removing Palestinians to make way for Jews;
  • regulating and managing registration of state lands;
  • authorizing contracts and agreements with other parties; and
  • providing services to the general public.

ILA policy objectives include:

  • designating land areas for public and state requirements;
  • assuring the availability of land reserves for future needs;
  • preserving agricultural lands;
  • administering land use in accordance with the law; and
  • safeguarding state lands.

Overall, Israeli laws and ILA policy prohibit Arabs from buying, leasing or using land exclusively reserved for Jews. On May 21, 1997, Israel’s largest circulation newspaper, Yediot Ahronot, quoted Yassar Arafat saying: “Israel has always confiscated land from Arabs and dispossessed them of the property. The land always goes from Arabs to the Jews,” and he added that Palestinians who sell their land to Jews are traitors.

The Jewish National Fund (JNF)

In 1901, the Fifth Zionist Congress established it to “purchase, take on lease or in exchange, or otherwise acquire any lands, forests, rights of possession and other rights…for the purpose of settling Jews on (Palestinian) lands.” About 80% of the land was confiscated, not bought, from its rightful owners — expelled Palestinians in Israel’s “War of Independence.”

JNF calls itself “Caretakers of the land of Israel for over a century (and) a global environmental leader by planting 240 million trees, building over 200 reservoirs and dams, developing over 250,000 acres of land, creating more than 1000 parks, providing infrastructure for over 1000 communities, (and) bringing life to the Negev Desert” exclusively for Jews on stolen Palestinian lands.

JNF develops land. It doesn’t sell it, but it can lease it to Jews or any Jewish-controlled company, organization or entity. It holds these lands on behalf of “the Jewish People in perpetuity.” In addition, its Himnuta subsidiary is charged with “redeeming” West Bank Palestinian land. A 1961 agreement between the State and JNF arranged for the ILA to manage 93% of Israeli land for Jews alone.

In 1973, former Israeli scholar, critic, and lifelong human rights activist, Israel Shahak (1933-2001), wrote a paper titled, “What is the Meaning of the Jewish State” in which he said:

“The real situation in Israel is really very simple: Israel is not an ‘Israeli’ state, or a state of its citizens but it is a ‘Jewish state.’” With regard to land, “More than 90% of the inhabited areas of the State of Israel are under the rule of the Jewish National Fund regulations, under which non-Jews cannot rent or buy a house or flat, open a business, in short cannot live. This land is called in Hebrew ‘the land’ saved. The land which belongs to non-Jews is called unsaved not national (meaning Jewish) and by buying or confiscating it from a non-Jew by a Jew, the land is supposed to be ‘saved.’ ”

It’s only the beginning. Numerous privileges are afforded Jews alone that include:

  • not only the right to the land but to a mortgage or loan to finance it;
  • on confiscated West Bank land, “Jewish inhabitants enter into prepared houses, with water and electricity;” unconnected Arab villages are forbidden to use either; and
  • “A building project for the newly-married applies only for the Jewish newly-married and so forth; to be a Jew in a Jewish state is to be both a privileged being, and to be able to receive a lot of ‘easy’ money a non-Jew can not ever get.”


Adalah’s Challenge

As the Legal Center for Arab Minority Rights in Israel, Adalah petitioned the Israeli Supreme Court on October 13, 2004 “Challenging the Prohibition on Arab Citizens of Israel from Living on Jewish National Fund Land.” It demanded an end to this discriminatory policy and cited other civil rights petitions for the same purpose.

On August 15, 2004 in a letter to Adalah, the ILA acknowledged that “JNF land tenders are only open to Jews.” It said it supports the policy and “is bound to respect the objective of the JNF as detailed in the Covenant signed by the State of Israel and the JNF.”

JNF’s written response said it “is not the trustee of the general public in Israel. Its loyalty is given to the Jewish people in the Diaspora and in the state of Israel…The JNF, as the owner of the JNF land, does not have a duty to practice equality towards all citizens of the state.”

In a July 29, 2007 press release, Adalah referred to “a (July 18, 2007) racist bill entitled the ‘Jewish National Fund Law (JNFL)’” stipulating that JNF land is to be solely for Jews. It added a new provision to the 1960 ILA Law called “Management of the Jewish National Fund’s Lands” saying:

Despite whatever is stated in any law, leasing of Jewish National Fund’s lands for the purpose of the settlement of Jews on these lands will not be seen as improper discrimination.” Further, “For the purpose of every law, the association documents of the Jewish National Fund will be interpreted according to the judgment of the Jewish National Fund’s founders and from a nationalist-Zionist standpoint.

The JNFL was introduced in the Knesset and passed its preliminary reading. In September 2007, Israel’s Supreme Court held a hearing on Adalah’s 2004 petition and approved a JNF and Attorney General proposal to delay further deliberation for three months. It stipulated that, during the interim period, Arabs could bid for JNF-controlled lands but that JNF would be compensated for Arab purchases by transferring other state lands to it.

Adalah’s General Director Attorney Hassan Jabareen and Attorney Suhad Bishara rejected the proposal because it left Israel’s discriminatory policy intact. In other words, newly seized land would replace Arab purchases, leaving them no better off than before. Adalah argued for ending Israel’s discriminatory policy, not tinkering with it around the edges and accomplishing nothing.

So far, it hasn’t happened. In addition, current law empowers the ILA further to restrict and prohibit Palestinian land development by:

  • putting large Arab areas under its control through the creation of regional councils;
  • enforcing rigid zoning restrictions for residential, agricultural, and industrial use; forbidding unlicensed construction, banning it on agricultural land, and stipulating where Jews and Arabs can live;
  • denying Palestinian areas room to expand while affording Jewish ones great latitude;
  • transferring public land adjacent to Arab communities to the JNF and mandating its use for Jews only;
  • declaring national priority town areas off-limits to Arabs;
  • delaying, restricting and prohibiting local development in Arab communities;
  • denying Palestinians representation on national planning committees; and
  • using forced evictions and home demolitions to make more areas available for Jews.

The Arab Association for Human Rights (HRA) and Ittijah (the Union of Arab NGOs) Position Regarding ILA Proposed Reform

HRA and Ittijah say the proposal “violates international law and universal values.” Prior to 1948, Jews controlled 6% of historic Palestine. It’s now 93% — an “unparalleled (situation) anywhere else in the world (under which) the State of Israel enjoys absolute control of the most significant resource….” Occupied Palestinians and millions of displaced refugees have suffered grievously. So have Israeli Arabs from discriminatory land distribution policies.

Until the mid-1990s, the ILA allocated land for just two Arab Nazareth and Umal-Fahm housing projects alone. Its approach emphasizes land redemption, meaning seizing it from its owners and transferring it to Jews.

The proposed law “attempts to remove the foundation for current and future claims to return to the homeland and to secure the land rights of Palestinian refugees, as well as (250,000) internal refugees (Israeli Arabs).” If passed, this law “effectively removes the future possibility of reaching a just solution to the” Israeli-Palestinian conflict. After 61 years, equitable land ownership resolution has yet to be achieved nor has Israel complied with international law. It prohibits the transfer of refugee land or other property and assets to the state or third parties.

Yet, the ILA does it anyway, and under the proposed law, urban land ownership will be transferred in a way that will disconnect the state “from the further residual ownership held in accordance with the contracts up to this point.” This process will entail “the complete and final negation of the rights of ownership of the Palestinian refugees to these properties” so that they’ll never be able to claim them again.

Fourth Geneva’s Article 147 specifically prohibits this by stating:

Grave breaches to which (the) preceding Article relates shall be those involving any of the following acts, if committed against persons or property protected by the present Convention:…taking of hostages and extensive destruction and appropriation of property, not justified by military necessity and carried out unlawfully and wantonly.

Various other international laws acknowledge the obligation of occupying powers to restore properties to their rightful owners and that failure to do so constitutes a serious lawless breach. HRA and Ittijah want expropriated property returned and internal refugees allowed back to their communities and land. A repressive Israel and dismissive world community stand in their way.

B’Tselem Calls Israeli Settlement Expansion “Un-natural Growth”

B’Tselem is the Israeli Information Center for Human Rights in the Occupied Territories. On July 7, it reported that Israel uses “natural growth” as fig leaf cover for its continued settlement expansion project. Internally last year, the population growth rate was 1.6%. It was 5.6% in West Bank settlements. Further, since Israel accepted the Road Map’s mandated freeze provision, its settler population expanded 37% in six years — from 211,400 to over 289,600, besides over 190,000 more in Arab East Jerusalem.

Netanyahu claims barring “natural growth” will tear apart families. Unmentioned is the continued theft of Palestinians lands, a grave violation of international law. Yet, Israel argues that, by law, it can’t reverse issued tenders after properties have been bought and construction begins. However, two 1992 High Court of Justice rulings disagreed. They held that the government could legally halt construction even after begun and that any losses incurred could be addressed in civil court. “The Israeli government has all the legal and administrative tools necessary to halt construction in the settlements.” Further, international laws are binding to signatories, and no state can legislate around them.

Israel does it anyway and plans continued settlement expansions on expropriated Palestinian lands. Interior Minister Eli Yishai threatened to use every resource possible to the maximum. The Ofra settlement is indicative. At least 58% of it was built on privately owned Palestinian land, now lost to make way for Jews. The same pattern holds throughout the West Bank and East Jerusalem. Palestinians are being removed to accommodate an expanding Jewish population on all land that Israel values, and under Netanyahu’s “natural growth” policy, it may accelerate faster than ever.

Stephen Lendman wrote How Wall Street Fleeces America: Privatized Banking, Government Collusion and Class War. Contact him at: lendmanstephen@sbcglobal.net. Also visit his blog site and listen to The Global Research News Hour on RepublicBroadcasting.org Mondays from 11AM-1PM US Central time for cutting-edge discussions with distinguished guests. All programs are archived for easy listening. Read other articles by Stephen.

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  1. B99 said on July 31st, 2009 at 12:16pm #

    Have just started the article and it starts out on the right note. Israel will have us believe it declared statehood in May of ’48 and the Arabs attacked. But Lendman makes it clear the war started in late 1947 (November, December), when the Israelis began their systematized massacres of Palestinian villagers, urbanites, and town dwellers.

  2. B99 said on July 31st, 2009 at 12:31pm #

    Lendman mentions the 250,000 internal Palestinian refugees – a usually overlooked group. These are displaced persons living in their own country – but forbidden to return to their family’s villages and homes. They are know in Israeli parlance as “present absentees.” Orwell would get it.

  3. B99 said on July 31st, 2009 at 12:38pm #

    One more comment. Netanyahu refers to ‘natural growth’ when referring to expanding Jewish settlements on the West Bank. As it is a finite peace of land, natural growth for Jews means unnatural diminishment of Palestinian land. How is that right?

  4. Max Shields said on July 31st, 2009 at 1:23pm #

    This is why there is not two-state solution. I’m not sure where the Israeli/Zionist frontier ultimately ends, but West Bank and Gaza are clearly in their claim.

    Land is the name of the imperial/colonialization game. Always has been. As I read this Lendman piece I wondered how US colonization laws mapped US expanision in the North American Continent link to Israel laws over the last 6 decades. Squatters’s rights and all.

  5. Max Shields said on July 31st, 2009 at 1:26pm #

    Imagine a people move in, set up a government, declare independence, write up a constitution, create legislation, laws that government where you live…once lived. Sounds like Israel? Sounds like the USA.

    Palestinians are simply the up-to-date version of Native Americans. Israeli historians will tell you they’ve taken the US empire model and transposed it to the Middle East.

    When was the last time the US actually gave back land they’d stolen to say…Mexico?

  6. bozh said on July 31st, 2009 at 1:49pm #

    yes, i agree.
    christo-talmoodniks always new that all of palestine wld be theirs.
    even churchill had encouraged european talmoodniks to take all of palestine.
    and as moshe dayan had said: you can leave. If you don’t you’ll live like dogs.
    ‘zionists’ may have nevertheless miscalculated in guessing that terrorism along murder wld suffice to get rid of pal’ns.
    they are still here.
    so, the next step is to expel or not expel. It cannot be done yet because of oil and oiless countries. tnx

  7. Ismail Zayid said on July 31st, 2009 at 2:36pm #

    Stephen Lrndman describes accurately the racist practices that Israel has conducted throughout its history against the indigenous people of Palestine, the Palestinian people. These practices are in complete compliance with the Zionist program, which can be described briefly as a racist expansionist colonial programme.

    Reference is made acurately to the policies of the Jewish National Fund [JNF]. One of its many crimes was committed by building the infamy called Canada Park, around 1975. on the ruins of the three Palestinian villages, Imwas, Yalu and Beit Nuba [my own home town]. These villages, in the West Bank, were occupied in the war of aggression committed by Israel, on June 5, 1967. On June 6, these villages were systematically dynamited and bulldozed on the orders of Yitzhak Rabin, the chief of staff of the Israeli army at the time. Canada Park was created by JNF, using Canadian tax-deductible dollars, making Canada an accomplice to this war crime, as affirmed by the Israeli former Knesset Member, Uri Avnery. His testimony can be viewed in the CBC, Fifth Estate documentary, broadcat on Oct. 21, 1991. This documentary can be viewed at my website, listed above.

    This is only one of the many war crimes Israel contiues to commit against the Palestinian people. These crimes are confirmed by Stephen Lendman and many honourable Israeli historians like Professor Israel Shahak and Ilan Pappe, amongst many others.

  8. B99 said on July 31st, 2009 at 2:36pm #

    Max – Your ‘plan’ would do Palestinians out of a state just as was done to Native-Americans – waste their time until its all gone. You have no mechanism, no institutions behind you – paeans to bio-regionalism just won’t cut it. How will you operationalize your plan?

    At least Mexico IS a state – and Mexicans are taking back their stolen country with each passing day. Just as Palestinians can do over time.

  9. Max Shields said on July 31st, 2009 at 3:22pm #

    B99 are you unaware of the facts? Palestinians do not have a state and at this rate such a thing is really not what they want – a separate state which would never provide sovereignty; and Israel has absolutely no intention of providing this “state”.

    Mexico is a state, but the land the US took California, Texas, NM, Arizon are no long part of Mexico and Mexico exists as a quasi-state within the US sphere of “influence” keeping it eternally poor with a wealth of cheap labor.

    I’m not sure why you insist on an argument that is detached from reality. Read Lendman’s article. Israel is not negotiating, never will, never really has, but instead is grabbing more and more land, and creating “laws” to provide some kind of sovereign legalization of their thievery.

    What about this picture of the facts seems to allude you?

  10. Mulga Mumblebrain said on July 31st, 2009 at 3:43pm #

    So, dear Max, what is your prescription? Should the Palestinians just disappear, ‘go elsewhere’, prepare themselves for extermination? If our new blood-crazed golem, currently trying not to breath as it is the ‘Sabbat’, ruvy, and his ilk have their way, it will be the last. After all the massacre is a perennial feature of Judaic religion, from the ‘Passover’ massacre of the first-born, to the massacre of tens of thousands in Persia, to ‘avert a genocide’, commemorated at ‘Purim’ to all the massacres lovingly recorded in the Holy Torah of Canaanites, Midianites, Moabites, Jebusites etc, etc. While your average humane, decent Jew would have nothing to do with such outrages, it must be now obvious that their type is on the run in Israel, where the religious fundamentalist, would-be ‘genocidaires’ are just itching for a mega-Gaza, as a Final Solution to the Palestinian Problem. Just read dear ruvy, such a revelation!

  11. kalidas kalidas369@yahoo.com said on July 31st, 2009 at 5:52pm #

    Yes the US colonized North America, but who then in turn has colonized the US empire, economically?

  12. Max Shields said on July 31st, 2009 at 6:36pm #

    Mulga Mumblebrain,
    Two-states is not a solution. The solution is one region. It will not happen under the currentl conditions of asymmetrical power. It can only happen when Israel is diminished to the point whereby such a solution is inevitable. Israel has conquered the land. It will not simply give up what it plans to continue to take.

    That a proposed “two-state” solution makes sense in reality is a terrible joke, one Zionist would like to keep alive as they continue to grabe more and more land.

    60 years may seem like a long time, but it is really a blink. Israel has the seeds of its own destruction. It is true that unlike the Native Americans, Palesti nians have both grown in numbers, and resisted surrender. But Zionists don’t want to eliminate their most precious enemy…an enemy that breaths life into their existence.

    Two-states makes no sense if you look at the land mass currently called Israel, Gaza and West Bank. Ecologically it is just unfeasible to divide this land with two nations without creating a meaningless solution, one that is no better than what exists.

    Israel’s very existence is premised on enemies. It is a state by which war must always be there at the door. Palestinians are a perpetual enemy…regardless of what they do. They will be poked until they throw meaningless missiles which will be counteracted by disproportional military drones and merciless Israeli state terrorism…but Palestinians will never be destroyed…to do that would eliminate the threat which would destroy the Jewish State.

    The only solution, and how it will happen is impossible to know for sure, is the dissolution of the state of Israel, either through some kind of diminishment of overall capacity, ecological catastrophe, or some kind of implosion.

    What B99 seems to find so difficult is the fact that the solution is not a simple continuation of “peace negotiations” with a neat two-state outcome. That’s the nice, convenient way to solve this nasty problem. But it is a fairy tale. Israel negogiates under bad faith and there will never be a just or reasonable outcome for both parties. That is clear. Only a seismic change will alter the stale-mate.

  13. B99 said on July 31st, 2009 at 8:05pm #

    Max – 191 of the 192 states of the UN are on record repeatedly as in favor of establishing a Palestinian state, ALL 22 Arab states have made the offer of full recognition of Israel if they pull out of the WB. The World Court has ruled against Israel’s actions in occupied Palestine because their presence is illegal. The Geneva Conventions support the Palestinian position. Even the US considers it an occupation. Both Fatah and Hamas support the two-state solution. The Palestinian people have been polled for years as supporting the two-state solution. It’s the only game in town.

    What institutions do you have to support your view? There are none. There is only the absolute moral position that the Palestinian have been done gravely wrong. Everyone but the Zyonistas knows that. And living with the Arabs is the last thing on Earth they want to do – in fact, they are in the process of evicting their own Arab citizens.

    Our job as supporters of Palestine is to work towards getting the Palestinians the strongest position possible in getting what little remains of their country. It is not our job to stand on a soapbox for some principle that has no more chance of reality now or in the near future as proclaiming from that soapbox – “Workers of the world unite…” and thinking that ought to light a fire.

    Here’s the proper analogy. The lands that now belong to the US used to belong to Mexico, yet Mexico is a fully-sovereign state, same as any other full-fledged state in the world. In the meantime, Mexicans are re-taking the SW US little by little because their labor is essential. Mexicans (with other Latinos) will in a few short decades be the majority population in the US SW. Our job is to help Palestinians in whatever small or large way we can to get their state – a fully-sovereign state just like Mexico. I’m not kidding myself – it’s the Palestinians who always do the heavy lifting. The demographics and labor needs under capital are the same for Israel/Palestine as they are for US/Mexico. The struggle by Palestinians for justice does not end with getting their state. The struggle for Palestine may continue to the end of days.

    Dissolution of Israel by force? That’s genocide. And as I repeatedly point out – you and who else are going to do that? Like Stalin, when told the pope would disapprove, replied, “How many divisions does he have?”

    The only thing that eludes me is why a presumed materialist would insist on the application of magic to a real world problem of unfathomable proportions. The magnitude of the problem is only matched by your naivete on the matter.

  14. dino said on July 31st, 2009 at 11:53pm #

    What interesting me more then all is if the rioters in Iran know what the two gangster sisters prepare for them.I can believe that it is a natural revolt “for reforms” which catch these rioters when this happens now:”A senior source in Jerusalem said the American message to Israel in these talks was to “lower its profile” and refrain from “ranting and raving” about Iran in public until the international evaluation on Iran takes place at the end of September. “Until that date, we must give diplomacy a chance,” the official said.

    New sanctions would mainly aim to significantly curb Tehran’s ability to import refined petroleum products. Despite its huge crude oil reserves, Iran has only limited refining capacity, so it imports large quantities of refined products such as gasoline.

    Jones and his team reported that a bill by Senator Joe Lieberman to curb sales of refined oil products to Iran is almost complete, and 67 senators have already signed it”

  15. Max Shields said on August 1st, 2009 at 4:51am #

    “Dissolutiion of Israel by force?”

    Never said that. Simply saying that the course this is on is not a two state solution. There is nothing to compell that outcome. If there was it would have happened…given all the “institutional” support you say is behind it.

    This along with the fact that two states, regardless of UN resolutions (we could cite many such resolutions against Israel that have been meaningless), is not a sustainable outcome. You never deal with that.

    You simply ignore the ecological constraints that make this two-state worthless. There will not be a sovereign Palestinian state with it’s own chance at a robust economy and with, if desired, a military to protect its borders (not that this is an outcome I’d prefer since such militaries assume enemies real and fictional).

    As to Mexico, if you read what I last wrote, I think I’ve pretty well refuted what you’ve repeated. Mexico lost much of its land through US expansionism. That’s a fact. What’s left is a struggling plutocracy, ruled by elites for elites. Lopsided trade agreements that destroy Mexican farmers who must migrate (illegally) to the US to find work. This is the handy-work of the 500 pound guerilla to the North.

  16. Shabnam said on August 1st, 2009 at 5:04am #

    The rioters in Iran are mainly voices of ‘capital’ and its camp Rafsanjani-Khatami and their puppet Mousavi who want no obstacles against their consumption needs, culturally and socially and are trying to steal the wealth of Iranian nation, with US help, more than $500 billions. This is not a mass movement as some fools are trying to paint it like Reese Erlich who knows sh*t about Iran. He says ‘left’ who does not support voice of capital is reactionary. You deserve to publish your article along with CPD, US government front active among fools to create confusion and disunity to expand US influence around the world, in Zmag along with ‘public intellectual’ who has signed all the CPD petitions on Iran in addition to supporting stooges like Dabashi and Makhmalbaf and voices of many reactionaries associated with monarchists who have a slave/master relations with Israel.

    http://mrzine.monthlyreview.org/pouya300709.html

  17. B99 said on August 1st, 2009 at 7:14am #

    No Max, you have no mechanism whatsoever for the dissolution of Israel, except by force. That you think it can be done otherwise shows your unfamiliarity with the conflict.

    Like you say, 60 years is a bat of the eye – the forces aligned against the demise of the Palestinians are the ONLY thing keeping Israel from total mass murder – and it is these inexorable forces that have to eventually bear fruit – not some fanciful position with no institutional support. The will of the world is not meaningless, but requires more work on the part of Palestine’s supporters.

    Palestinians and their supporters have to be adamant about getting the whole panoply of rights and responsibilities that all sovereign nations have. (Yes, states have rights in the state system.) And the struggle is not over with statehood. There is the struggle for equality in a state of its citizens in Israel, full restitution for the refugees, among other struggles.

    No, Palestine’s economy will not be robust. Perhaps millions will be drawers of water for the Israeli economy. Perhaps Palestine will have to join Jordan in some sort of federation. But they will have their own real estate, and you should not deny them that.

    Mexico lost its land thru US expansionism – as Palestine lost its land to Israeli expansion. In this we agree – the situations are parallel, including the need for ‘foreign’ workers in the hegemon. The southwest US will be majority Latino as likely will major portions of Israel when it comes to terms with a Palestinian state.

    Regards Mexico being ruled by elites – so what. Did you think you were going to end capitalist relations with the one-state solution?

  18. B99 said on August 1st, 2009 at 7:17am #

    (correction) The southwest US will be majority Latino as likely will major portions of Israel BE PALESTINIAN when it comes to terms with a Palestinian state.

  19. Lloyd said on August 1st, 2009 at 7:54am #

    Tx, B99. Your comments remind me of me, to quoteth John Wayne. Dispelling the propaganda of AIPAC and militant Israel will never be too much, evidently. And I haven’t even started this article. Just came over from OEN and started reviewing the “Recent Discussion” for names I don’t recognize as Regulars….

    Max used to be my fave Regular, by the bye.

    When DV gets around to putting up today, I’m going to be looking for a piece on torture and/or a mother’s story about her son the Marine and John Phillip Walker Lindh, so I can put up the link to it in a comment.

    It’s a remarkable piece of “Ground Zero Journalism” which you might enjoy if you mosey over to OpEdNews. It’s still in the headlines there.

  20. Don Hawkins said on August 1st, 2009 at 8:34am #

    Lloyd are you trying to say we should go to OpEd news?

  21. Lloyd said on August 1st, 2009 at 9:15am #

    Actually, OEN could use “Intellectual” connected to its logo “Progressive-Tough-Liberal” and DV could use OEN’s software, which includes picture-posting.

    Yes, you should go to OpEdNews, Don, and at least check it out.

    Then you can work on The Big Three at DV while I work on Rob Kall at OEN, wise up, and merge.

  22. Lloyd said on August 1st, 2009 at 9:18am #

    By the bye, I’ve looked at this article a little closer. From a cursory overview, it looks like the author has found a bloody mangled corpse and is analyzing its cuticles.

  23. bozh said on August 1st, 2009 at 9:20am #

    i wonder whether the fate a state- for- ‘jews’- only hinges solely on US plutos?
    i conjecture that the fate of the state of ‘jews’ [of whatever size] depends also on world plutos.
    e.g., oiless plutos, methinks, cannot OK expulsion at this time. In decades or once energy needs are supplied by other sources than oil, world plutos wld look for buttered bread side and OK expulsion.

    however, at that time arab lands may possess wmd also.

    actually, i wld love to see all zionistic ‘jews’- and to whatever degree they are such- live in one country.
    but i wldn’t wish that for romas. I guess, romas are more pragmatic. They don’t want a country of their own in s.w. asia which they left s’mwhen/s’mhow. [were they chased away, i wonder?]
    now, that’s wisdom! But 70% of ‘jews’ do not want to live in one place with mad rabbis, haredim, lubavitches, reform, orthodox, and ultra ortodox.
    and add to this that one may hear muezzin hollering in the mornings and any sane, or even partly sane, person might go insane.
    so, some ‘jews’ are also sane or know on which side their bread is buttered. tnx

  24. B99 said on August 1st, 2009 at 9:51am #

    Roma are usually traced to South Asia – i.e., India.

  25. mary said on August 1st, 2009 at 1:17pm #

    Israeli soldiers kidnapped 312 Palestinians in July
    Saturday August 01, 2009 21:55 by Saed Bannoura – IMEMC & Agencies

    Palestinian researcher, Abdul-Nasser Farawna, stated Saturday that Israeli soldiers kidnapped 312 Palestinians, including dozens of teens, during the month of July.

    Farawna added that the soldiers kidnapped 3372 Palestinians since the beginning of this year, among them dozens of women and children.

    Most of the kidnapped residents are from the West Bank, while hundreds were kidnapped during the war of Gaza.

    Farawna also said that the Israeli Navy kidnapped dozens of Palestinian fishermen in Palestinian territorial waters in the Gaza Strip.

    Yet, the researcher stated that July witnessed the least incidents of kidnappings as in comparison to previous months.

    He also said that the Israeli army kidnaps Palestinians with the aim to harm different sectors of the society, including but not limited to harming the economy, social life, educational life, in addition to harming the health and psychological conditions of the residents by placing them under extreme conditions and torturing them during interrogation.

    Farawna added that there are hundreds of Palestinians who are still suffering from health and psychological issues due to the abuse and torture they were subjected to while imprisoned by Israel.

    News report author email saed at imemc dot org
    http://www.imemc.org/article/61263
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Soldiers burn agricultural lands in northern Gaza
    Saturday August 01, 2009 21:38 by IMEMC & Agencies

    The Ramattan news agency reported Saturday that Israeli soldiers burnt Palestinian agricultural lands belonging to two Palestinian residents, near the Eretz crossing, in the northern part of the Gaza Strip.

    Two Israeli military bulldozers uprooted the farmlands before the soldiers set the uprooted trees and lands of fire.

    Local sources reported that soldiers also fired rounds of live ammunition in different directions causing panic among the residents, no injuries were reported.

    News report author email saed at imemc dot org
    http://www.imemc.org/article/61262

  26. dan e said on August 1st, 2009 at 3:27pm #

    Well well, you never know. Never expected such an insightful and informed critic of “israel” & Zionism as B99 to wind up trying to sell that corny old snowjob known as the Two State Illusion. Come on man, you know as well as I do that the Zionazis will never compromise on their permanent goals in order to establish “peace”. Why should they? Force Majeure and the US Federal Reserve are all in their favor, that is in their pocket.
    The Zionist State will never go away until the Imperialist Order goes away. As long as the Zionist Power Configuration runs the US political process and the globalized economic order, “Israel”‘s interests will be priority No. 1 everywhere but on DV and a few other rogue sites/blogs.

    If you want to achieve justice for the Palestinians you have to target the whole capitalist colonial system. Which means taking on the US imperial state apparatus and defeating it lock stock and media.

    I don’t know why it’s so hard for all these “marxists” to admit the obvious, but all the empirical evidence says that the US financial system is run by the top echelon of the US “Jewish Community” (sic). And as we all know, the Financial Sector has the final say re what happens in a globalized capitalist/imperialist state structure.

    Put it another way, Capitalism has been hijacked by militarist militant Zionism; the symbiosis has created a monster without precedence in human history. So hold on to your hats fellas, here we go.

    Think things are bad now? Outrageous? Hehe, ain’t seen nothen yet:)

  27. kalidas said on August 1st, 2009 at 3:41pm #

    One thing for sure… we’ll all be getting the same amount of ice.

  28. Max Shields said on August 1st, 2009 at 3:48pm #

    So, B99, it’s all about a real estate? Give the beggers some real estate, maybe they’ll shut up… is that your solution B99?

    Justice doesn’t come with a caveat clause. The injustice is what is at the bottom of this problem, not simply a piece of land forcing Palestinians to arrange themselves for the convenience of the fully armed Israel parasite.

    But to even think that there is any real “hope” for such an outcome is ludicrous. It’s like the Wizard of Oz..pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. In this case it is the preditory state of Israel. It reminds me of the fable about the Scorpian (Israel) and the Frog (Palestinians).

    (Btw, I used the Mexico analogy to illustrate that the land stolen was never given back. Had the US expansionists invaded what we now call Mexico the outcome would have probably been the same, perhaps one or two more US states.)

  29. Deadbeat said on August 1st, 2009 at 5:29pm #

    dan e writes…

    I don’t know why it’s so hard for all these “marxists” to admit the obvious, [that] … Capitalism has been hijacked by militarist militant Zionism

    Because many of these so-called Marxist are unwilling to break from their Jewish identity. And when you consider that it is rather anti-Marxist since he was a major critic of religion. It is clearly a contradiction but it is also a problem with the white working class not relinquishing their “white” identity. Identity “crisis” is still a huge problem on the Left and yet another reason why solidarity is difficult to achieve. Foundation money started to notice this dynamic in the 1950′s and have funded these identity group organizations since.

    Yes, racism is a major component along with capitalism in the continuance of imperialism.

  30. Max Shields said on August 1st, 2009 at 5:38pm #

    Capitalism/Racism merely symptoms. Focus there and you don’t solve anything.

  31. Mulga Mumblebrain said on August 2nd, 2009 at 1:17am #

    mary, thanks for the figures on Israeli kidnapping. It reminds us that, first, Israel is a truly vicious, sadistic and remorseless terror state, and then that the Zionazis and, in particular, those goy insects in human form who work slavishly to promote their agenda, who whinge incessantly over the one Israeli prisoner-of-war, Shalit, are about as detestable as hypocrital scum come.
    That, of course, is Israel’s greatest effect on humanity. It is a beacon for racist, xenophobic and psychopathic swine everywhere. Just by becoming a bottom kisser for the Chosen ones and their apartheid horror state, every nasty creep who sees nothing wrong with barbecuing children with white phosphorus, or shooting a mother and her children for turning in the wrong direction, or emptying an entire magazine into a wounded 13 year old girl, to ‘confirm the kill’, gets to strut about and snarl abuse, like his masters, at anyone in the least peturbed by these displays of gratuitous cruelty.
    As we know, these kidnapped will be routinely tortured. As ever this is designed to terrorise and demoralise the imprisoned Palestinians, recruit informers and traitors and to slake the infinite cruelty of the ubermenschen, driven to psychotic rage by the untermenschen’s refusal to disappear. And to bring this bubbling cauldron of horror to the boil, the perpetrators are not only plotting even greater crimes, but, as ever, demanding that the world genuflect, nay protstrate itself, before their infinite goodness and ‘moral purity’.

  32. B99 said on August 2nd, 2009 at 5:28am #

    And so, what – history has come to an end? US holds this land in perpetuity? Just because Mexico’s land was not given back does not mean it is not changing drastically even as we speak in the direction of those who lost it. In fact, that is just what is happening.

    Anyway, you have nothing but your ideals as a solution to Palestine’s Israel problem. No mechanism, no institutional backing, no way to operationalize it, not even the support of the very people who would benefit by that. Just personal opinion bouncing off the walls of DV.

  33. B99 said on August 2nd, 2009 at 5:35am #

    Dan E – And I thought the problem for Palestine was one of mere global importance. Now I find out from you that the entire cosmos has to go down a black hole and out the other side for some semblance of justice to be achieved in Palestine.

  34. Don Hawkins said on August 2nd, 2009 at 5:49am #

    B99 in the middle East water h2o is going to start to be a very big problem. The cosmos will be just fine.

  35. bozh said on August 2nd, 2009 at 7:52am #

    if one marries a [wo]man, one marries also [un]known faults of that [wo]man. Or, soyuz is over, even if just one fault is discovered in the other person.
    if one is a “jew”, one espuses also “jewishness” with all its faults.
    but unlike hitching to s’mone whose faults one doesn’t know, faults of the essense “jewishness” [its lore, habits, cults, culture, insularity, sense of higher being, etcetc.] is well known by all observers.

    from this, i conclude, that no matter how strongly a ‘jew’ criticizes israel, the ‘jew’ in her/him does not, as far as i know, ever condemn talmud, mosheism, torah, or his-her jewishness.
    in other words, the root causes for plight of pal’ns, seem almost always or always bypassed.
    i’ll ask devil of mine whether i can consider this most diabolic? tnx

  36. mary said on August 2nd, 2009 at 7:56am #

    Israeli Settlements: Obama Should Know Better By Mairav Zonszein
    July 31, 2009

    Nefesh B’Nefesh (which means “Soul in Soul” in Hebrew) hand out blood money to North American arrivals at Ben Gurion International Airport.

    ‘When asked about whether Obama’s policy has hindered NBN’s operations, a staff member responded happily: “No, we are seeing a rise in numbers.” Settlement growth last year, at least, was up 69 percent. Of that amount, 39 percent of the new construction was built outside “consensus areas.” According to Peace Now, only 60 percent of growth in the settlements last year was “natural” (resulting from internal reproduction), while the remaining 40 percent was the result of immigration to settlements from Israel and abroad.’

    http://www.thenation.com/doc/20090817/zonzsein

  37. Max Shields said on August 2nd, 2009 at 9:24am #

    B99,

    “My ideals” is not the case I’m making. You are distracting from the logic and empiricism of what I’m contending regarding the “two-state solution”.

    As I’ve said the Palestinian people have overwhelmingly agreed in polls, when provided the option, that a single solution to the region is the most desireable. Who better than the people who live in these blood drenched lands know full well what the land/water/air can sustain?

    Just because the UN has a resolution (hundreds regularly go unheeded, unless the US/Israel go along with it) does not provide any institutional grounding of worth to the “two-state” option you keep meandering about.

    You can’t deal with the fact that there is no ecological feasibility to the two-state “solution”; nor that this is a pipe dream never meant to be achieved because the state in question – Israel – has no desire to make it so, in fact has just the opposite desire and policies, with the article on this post as a prime example. But you don’t see it or get it or both.

    This is not about “idealism”; it’s about dealing with reality. That Arab states (remember how there governments are headed, btw) would go along with a two-state “solution” is a simple game of placation that has been going on for decades. It’s a joke and you don’t get it!

    The only legitimate solution is a single territory, open to all people, populated first by Palestinians right to return. My contention is based on something that cannot be proven, but is intuited from a bit of history, that the fascistic state of Israel cannot be sustained. It’s premise is its own undoing and will dissolve. How, exactly, remains to be seen. Perhaps it is a hope of getting out of the dilemma; but the two-state will not lead to a peaceful resolve any more than Obama’s so-called “universal” (or whatever they’re calling it this week) health care
    will measureable change the care of the people who live in the US; nor will it lead the way to a single-payer. Somethings just cannot be done incrementally.
    As to Mexico, Texas is still Texas, USA, as are all the states west and north of it. Whether Mexicans and other latinos (remember many are not even Mexican) have migrated North to find jobs is hardly a change in the status quo. Those lands are in US possession and will remain so in perpetuity (as much as that term as any meaning in any situation on the planet).

    It is clearly the US model of expansionism, genocide, ethnic cleansing which has been employed by the Israeli/Zionists from day one. I’d be interested in seeing if there are parallels between the “land theft legalization” used by Israel’s land management, and those employed by the US government of the interior as it moved to grab more and more of the North American Continent. Understand how, not only European settlements were sanctioned but also the rail way system. All of this was not only about grabing land, but establishing a wealthy elite who rule to this day.

  38. B99 said on August 2nd, 2009 at 9:25am #

    Yes Don Hawkins – Middle East water issues was my first specialty – based on a line in Chomsky’s Fateful Triangle.

  39. Don Hawkins said on August 2nd, 2009 at 9:57am #

    West Bank Suffers Acute Water Shortages
    By Luis Ramirez
    Rafat, West Bank
    01 August 2009

    Israel and the Palestinian territories are suffering a fifth year of drought. Water shortages are especially acute in the West Bank, where an aquifer shared by Israelis and Palestinians is being depleted. The World Bank recently reported Israelis are receiving four times as much water per capita than West Bank Palestinians, a situation resulting from the breakdown of the peace process and the Palestinian Authority’s failure to build infrastructure.

    It is Wednesday at the home of the Mahmoud family in the village of Rafat, not far from Jerusalem. This is one of the few days of the week that water flows from the taps.

    Family members rush to take advantage of every precious drop before the afternoon, filling plastic jugs, oil drums, and pails with water for use by the 15 people who live in this home.

    Intifar Sabre Abu Hassan, one of the women of the family, says she knows the taps will run dry by the afternoon, and then stay dry for several days ahead. She hurries to knead the dough for the bread her family will eat all week.

    She says that on this day that they have water from the taps, her family bathes, does laundry, washes dishes, cooks, and flushes toilets. She says these are things a human needs to do.

    Resources overdrawn

    But the Mahmouds, like many other Palestinian families in the West Bank do not have access to much of the water in the ground beneath them.

    They live above the Mountain Aquifer, which the Palestinians share with Israel and its settlements in the West Bank.

    Gidon Bromberg is the Israeli director of the Friends of the Middle East, an environmental group that has long been monitoring use of the aquifer.

    “With five consecutive years of drought, the Mountain Aquifer has been terribly over-pumped,” said Bromberg. “In fact, all water resources in Israel and shared between Israel and Palestine, have been overdrawn. Israel takes the lion’s share of the Mountain Aquifer. Some 80 percent of the waters of the Mountain Aquifer go to Israel and only 20 percent go to Palestinians in the West Bank. And therefore, it’s also a source of animosity between the peoples.”

    Nearing catastrophe

    A World Bank report issued this year says the average Israeli gets four times as much water as the average Palestinian. It warns of a nearing catastrophe.

    For Intifar’s father, Mahmoud Abu Ibrahim, a farmer in his 80s whose crops depend on rainfall, the catastrophe is here.

    He stoops over some drying tomato plants in his field, pulling the dried stalks and leaves and tossing out shriveled up tomatoes that have fallen from the plants.

    He says there is no water. The soil is dry. All the tomatoes are spoiled. He says there is nothing to harvest.

    In the nearby village of Qattana, no water has been pumped for days.

    Adults and children come from kilometers away to line up with plastic jugs and soft drink bottles at a single tap that is connected to a spring.

    This 17-year-old boy says he spends long days carrying water back to his family’s home. He blames the Israelis for the shortage.

    He says he has to come here because there is no water, and he believes it is the Israelis’ fault.

    Israel itself is suffering from acute shortages and is carrying out a conservation campaign. However, signs of the shortage are much less visible in cities like Jerusalem, where taps have yet to go dry. Fountains in public places are flowing and sprinklers in public parks irrigate vast green lawns using tap water.

    Easing water shortages

    Israeli officials say one way they are trying to ease water shortages in the West Bank is by pushing a project – along with Jordan – to channel water from the Red Sea to the Dead Sea.

    Israeli Vice Prime Minister Silvan Shalom, who also serves as minister for regional development, told reporters recently the project to pump millions of cubic meters of saltwater uphill to the Palestinian territories also aims to save the Dead Sea from drying up, and boost tourism.

    “We would have, of course, desalinated water,” he said. “There is a lack of water in all the region, especially in Jordan and for the Palestinians.”

    But some warn the plan is environmentally risky and expensive. On the Palestinian side, management problems and other obstacles are holding up infrastructure projects.

    Environmentalist Gidon Bromberg says a joint Israeli-Palestinian water commission that was supposed to address water issues has not been doing its job.

    “The whole framework of the joint water committee, with the souring of the of peace process, became antagonistic,” he said. “Rather than being a mechanism of cooperation, of joint fact-finding, of assistance to one another, it became another focal point for animosity and a failure, really, to work together to solve the desperate needs of both peoples.”

    Water is one of the issues that are supposed to be dealt with in final status negotiations. With the peace process stalled, there is little hope for a quick solution.

    In the meantime, Intifar Sabre Mahmoud Abu Hassan and her family are doing their best to cope.

    She says her family is trying to be careful with water, and trying to economize and ration. She wonders what else they can do.

    For now, the Mahmoud family and others have no choice but to keep containers ready for the days when water does flow through the taps.

    a fifth year of drought a fifth year of drought

  40. mary said on August 2nd, 2009 at 11:57am #

    How terrifying for the 19 children to be confronted by the Israeli thugs in their black riot gear.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/8180413.stm
    Sunday, 2 August 2009 15:25 UK

    Palestinians evicted in Jerusalem

    Palestinian officials say the families lived in the houses for over 50 years (photo)

    Israeli police have evicted nine Palestinian families living in two houses in occupied East Jerusalem.

    Jewish settlers moved into the houses almost immediately. The US has urged Israel to abandon plans for a building project in the area.

    Israel has occupied East Jerusalem since 1967, a move not recognised by the international community.

    The evictions have been condemned by the United Nations, the Palestinians and also the UK government.

    The US said the evictions were not in keeping with Israel’s obligations under the so-called “road map” to resolve the Israel-Palestinian conflict.

    ‘Deplorable’

    The operation to evict the 53 Palestinians in the Sheikh Jarrah district of the city was carried out before dawn on Sunday by police clad in black riot gear.

    It followed a ruling by Israel’s Supreme Court that the land originally belonged to Jewish families. Israel wants to build a block of 20 apartments in the area.

    The police were clad in black riot gear (photo)

    The evictions were quickly condemned by the United Nations.

    “I deplore today’s totally unacceptable actions by Israel,” the UN Special Coordinator for the Middle East Peace Process, Robert H Serry said. “These actions are contrary to the provisions of the Geneva Conventions related to occupied territory.

    “These actions heighten tensions and undermine international efforts to create conditions for fruitful negotiations to achieve peace,” Mr Perry said.

    Palestinian negotiator Saed Erakat said: “Tonight, while these new settlers from abroad will be accommodating themselves and their belongings in these Palestinian houses, 19 newly homeless children will have nowhere to sleep.”

    Sovereignty ‘unquestionable’

    Israel considers a united Jerusalem to be the capital of the state of Israel.

    “Our sovereignty over it is unquestionable,” Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said last month.

    “We cannot accept the idea that Jews will not have the right to live and buy [homes] anywhere in Jerusalem.”

    The BBC’s Tim Franks in Jerusalem says the houses are in what is probably the most contested city on earth and the diplomatic ripples from the evictions will spread.

    The UK joined in the condemnation of the evictions. “These actions are incompatible with the Israeli professed desire for peace,” the British Consulate in East Jerusalem said. “We urge Israel not to allow the extremists to set the agenda.”

    There are an estimated 250,000 Palestinians living in East Jerusalem and 200,000 Jews.

  41. bozh said on August 2nd, 2009 at 12:26pm #

    we do not know of any conqueror who expelled mass of people.
    Even americans have seldom expelled red people; most of them were slain or died of imported diseases.
    thus apaches still live in arizona. Other tribes, of what was left of them, still inhabit ancestral lands.
    bulgars and hungarians have not expelled conquered slavs. Franks have not expelled gauls. Lombrads, croats, auatrians, czechs, slovaks, norewegians, et al have not expelled indigenous pops.
    conquests or migrations often resulted in either indigenes assimilating newcomers or vice versa.
    In hungary, magyars have assimilated moravians while in bulgaria, bulgars were assimilated by slavs who retained their langauge.

    lombards, gauls, franks , moravians have lost their languages but most germanic peoples have not.
    historians do not report of mass murder by newcomers in any region of europe.

    ‘jews’ are an anomaly in this regard; thus, we wld be criminal to reward them for their behavior.
    the win-win situation is for two peoples to live together.
    those that can’t or won’t live with pal’ns wld leave anyway. The people that wld leave wld be mostly nonshemitic voelken.
    tnx

  42. dan e said on August 2nd, 2009 at 3:02pm #

    B99, with all due respect, do you really think it possible to reach an agreement with the Zionazis which will provide a just solution to the plight of the Palestinians?

    An end to the current system of power relationships in the ME is not possible without a major shift in the balance of global military, financial and media/propaganda/psyops power.

    To envision a real social revolution, in which the current power structure is dismantled and replaced by another more attuned to real human needs is of course a tall order, but such a vision does not equal “the entire cosmos going down a black hole and out the other”.

    So let’s not exaggerate the problem, but let’s not minimize it either. Let’s face the facts: as long as the current bunch is running things there will be no justice for the Palestinians, the Native Americans, or anybody else who has something these ZioImperialists want.

    Even if you insist on doubting that “US Imperialism” is now being run primarily by and for the richest of the Zionazi Superich, even if you think that the “goyish” element still dominates the capitalist ruling class, what reason have you to hope said goyish Militarist-Fascists will force the Jewish State to agree to anything resembling “a just peace”?’ The evidence of the last sixty-odd years says the whole concept of a negotiated settlement with these fanatic zionists is a pipe dream.

    At some pt you have to wise up & stop buying into these pipedreams. It may be unpleasant to look reality straight in the eye, but that’s a necessary first step in the process of finding a way to deal with it.

    BTW, Max ol’ buddy, what is it that Racism & Capitalism are a “symptom” of? Thanks:)

  43. mebosa ritchie said on August 2nd, 2009 at 3:51pm #

    High Court Evicts Arab Squatters in Jerusalem

    mary–the REAL TRUE story as opposed to bbc lies
    you probably pfere the lies because you’re used to that

    High Court Evicts Arab Squatters in Jerusalem

    Two Arab families were evicted from Jewish-owned homes in the Shimon HaTzaddik neighborhood of Jerusalem on Sunday morning. The evictions took place following a Supreme Court ruling in which the court found in favor of Jewish families who claimed ownership of homes in the area.

    The evictions took place without unusual disturbances, police said.

    The Arab families claimed that they owned the houses in which they lived. Jewish families argued that they were the legal owners of the homes, and that the Arabs had squatted there illegally in an attempt to wrest control of the property from its rightful owners.

    The Arab families presented documents that appeared to show Arab ownership of the homes dating back to the Ottoman period. However, the court found that the documents had been forged, and that the documents presented by the Jewish plaintiffs were legitimate.

    The neighborhood in question is located near the 2,000-year-old gravesite of the sage Shimon HaTzaddik. The neighborhood was founded in the first half of the 20th century by Jewish families, but fell under Jordanian rule following the 1948 War of Independence and was quickly populated by Jordanian Arabs.

    Since the reunification of Jerusalem under Israeli rule in 1967, a number of Jewish families have moved back into the area. Their arrival has been greeted with hostility from local Arabs and from the Palestinian Authority, which has demanded control over the neighborhood as part of a future Arab capital city in Jerusalem.

    Jewish activists have fought several legal battles in recent years regarding properties in Jerusalem and in Shimon HaTzaddik in particular. Activists say they are undeterred by the difficulties of regaining control of Jewish property, and plan to continue their efforts to reestablish a Jewish presence in historic Jerusalem neighborhoods.

  44. Max Shields said on August 2nd, 2009 at 5:00pm #

    dan e looks like we have some common ground regarding the Israel/Palestinian dilemma.

    I would ask that you define what you mean by racism and why it persists.

    Capitalism is just a word for an economic system that’s gone berserk.

    Thank you in advance for your response.

  45. Don Hawkins said on August 2nd, 2009 at 5:17pm #

    Capitalism is just a word for an economic system that’s gone berserk.

    Thank’s Max berserk great way to put it.

  46. Mulga Mumblebrain said on August 3rd, 2009 at 2:30am #

    Cherished mebosa golem-while I don’t for a second take your version of events as the truth, having been exposed to more lies, more arrogant dissembling and more hypocrisy from Zionazis than any other group I have ever encountered, your trademark excuse-making raises at least two questions. If Jewish property rights from 1948 are so sacrosanct why are Palestinian property rights from that era, the rights of the hundreds of thousands of the ethnically cleansed, the descendants of inhabitants of the region for centuries, worth nothing.? Why does Israel, in arrogant and contemptuous refusal to obey international law, refuse to allow their return? I know the real reason, that you see your tribe as the centre of all existence, with ‘rights’ that trump those of all the non-Judaic ‘two-legged animals’, but here’s a chance to be inventive. Make up a new self-serving exculpation for Judaic brutality and racist contempt.
    As to the ‘sage’ Shimon HaTzaddik I imagine if he really was a ‘sage’ that he would regard racist supremacists with disdain or horror. If he was just some sort of antique Judaic supremacist, and would approve of such brutal racism, then he’s no sage. What’s more, the area now known as Jerusalem has been occupied by human beings for ten thousand years, in settled existence, and tens of thousands more as nomads. Why precisely, does the existence of one Jew, two thousand years ago, trump the human rights of the living descendants of all those other countless generations who have inhabited this land?

  47. Don Hawkins said on August 3rd, 2009 at 5:06am #

    And it is that hate and not over coming our instincts with reason that will not work out well. We human’s seem to have no problem with hate instinct and reason a little harder. Simple thought don’t you think.

  48. jon s said on August 3rd, 2009 at 6:28am #

    Mebosa,
    The expulsion of Palestinian families seems to be a grave injustice, and furthermore the recognition of property claims from before 1948 is a boomerang: if you accept pre-1948 Jewish claims, the Palestinians will be all too happy to prove their pre-1948 property claims, and you’re opening the door for the “Right of Return” .

  49. mebosa ritchie said on August 3rd, 2009 at 8:16am #

    jon s–some background;these were jewish captured by the arabs in 1948 and subsequently retaken by the israelis in 1967
    if, god forbid,the arabs won any war against israel they would not go through any court to obtain property;they would just slaughter the occupants—their words not mine

    the homes were owned by Jews dating back to the late 19th century, and were abandoned during a spate of Arab attacks in the area in the 1920s and ’30s.
    the Jordanian government took control of these plots under the Enemy Property Law during its rule from 1948 to 1967.

    In 1956, 28 Palestinian families who had been receiving refugee assistance from UNRWA were selected to benefit from a relief project, in which they forfeited their refugee aid and moved into homes built on “formerly Jewish property leased by the Custodian of Enemy Property to the Ministry of Development.

    The agreement stipulated that the ownership of the homes was to be put in the families’ names – a step that never took place.

    In 1972, two Israeli organizations – the Sephardic Community Committee and the Knesset Yisrael Committee – began notifying the residents that they owed rent, and initiated a process with the Israel Lands Administration to register the land in their names, also based on 19th-century Ottoman-era documents.

    In 1982, the two committees brought a lawsuit against 23 families for rent delinquency.

    the lawyer representing the Palestinians, did not contest the legitimacy of the committees’ ownership claims, and instead arrived at a court-ordered settlement – a binding agreement that can be appealed only if proven to be based on false grounds The years since have resulted in a slew of legal battles between the two sides, now culminating in the eviction of neighborhood residents

  50. dan e said on August 3rd, 2009 at 12:08pm #

    Sorry, Max, the definition of capitalism you offer is inadequate, too simplistic, and not really descriptive.

    I asked you not for a definition of capitalism or of racism, but to describe what it is that you describe them as a “symptom” of. It would seem that you have in mind some more fundamental reality, such as the division of society into classes which occurred shortly after humans began to cultivate cereal crops, and was well advanced by the time irrigation was introduced. Or maybe the fact that in presentday society, Production is social but Appropriation of said product is Individual? I’m just speculating, really have no idea what you have in mind, maybe it’s something completely different? Yes?

  51. dan e said on August 3rd, 2009 at 12:08pm #

    Sorry, Max, the definition of capitalism you offer is inadequate, too simplistic, and not really descriptive.

    I asked you not for a definition of capitalism or of racism, but to describe what it is that you describe them as a “symptom” of. It would seem that you have in mind some more fundamental reality, such as the division of society into classes which occurred shortly after humans began to cultivate cereal crops, and was well advanced by the time irrigation was introduced. Or maybe the fact that in presentday society, Production is social but Appropriation of said product is Individual? I’m just speculating, really have no idea what you have in mind, maybe it’s something completely different? Yes?

  52. Max Shields said on August 3rd, 2009 at 1:07pm #

    dan e,
    How I described Capitalism was to bring it to what is its essence. If you read the works of Adam Smith and David Ricardo who do not see what we have today.

    Ricardo, in particular, would wrote extensively about the need to capture rent from use of natural resources. Had that prescription been established within the our economics it would have saved us from much of the wealth concentration and created a level “playing field” from one generation to another.

    Many things contributed to the berserk economic system that presides as the dominate force in the world. But it is this ability to privatize the commons, and corporate person-hood (none of which comes from either Smith or Ricardo), that has sent this from A to Z. Industrialization was the tipping point; at which time we (collectively) said to hell with future generations, it’s all about ME. So, we went full bore with non-renewable fossile fuel with no care whatsoever for anyone but ourselves. This whole society is nothing without fossile. So as it ends, and must, what then? That is not the result of capitalism, but of a pathology that is a blend of a corporate elite and a political system that feeds off of that wealth produced by that elite.

    But we, individually, gave it all over…all our power….any concern for the land…became concern about credit (debt) and machinery (industrialization) as we plowed and raped the earth with total abandonment. That is not capitalism, though capitalism has taken on this grotesque, nihilistic form.

    As far as racism, frankly I don’t know what it really is, at least not today. Is it the fact that by all indicators people of color generally fair much worse than those who are white. Not really. That to is a symptom. Is it simply a legacy of slavery; of Jim Crow? If so what does that mean? It is a vicious cycle without end or can we create a path away from it?

    It’s easy to talk about slavery (though that is not exclusive to Africans) and one can see the demonizaiton of others to create a power structure (such as Vietnamese/US or Palistinians/Israel); but is that what we’re talking about in the US when we use the word racism?

    I think MLK did ulimately put his finger on it. He understood the machinery of war/classism and that it with the concentration of wealth created a prolonged dichotomy of “race” an invention to communicate a collective difference for the means of control and domination. But why is it sustained today?

  53. Melissa said on August 3rd, 2009 at 1:21pm #

    It is sustained today because speaking, teaching and writing about “racism” is its own industry. It is a thought-crime to stand in the middle, refusing to take a side . . . to take up the approved terms, slogans and buzzwords.

    Max, I agree that MLK put his finger on it: classism and imperialism/war. That is what scares us so much, that we can’t just wear the platitudes and sympathies, that we will have to shake up our own comfort, identity, only system we recognize, to really get to the root. I feel too much time and energy is WASTED on the planted diversions. Thank you for pursuing the conversation to root cause analysis.

    Peace,
    Melissa

  54. jon s said on August 4th, 2009 at 12:39am #

    Mebosa,
    The point is that Palestinian families are being evicted, to make way for Israeli settlers, who will now make life miserable for their “neighbors”.
    I’m sure the Palestinians would be delighted to open all pre-1948 property claims, and you know what that would mean.

  55. mary said on August 4th, 2009 at 1:47am #

    Even children are arrested in this latest act by the occupying terror force.

    http://palsolidarity.org/2009/08/7939

    Take action against suppression of Palestinian non-violent resistance in Bil’in
    Posted on: August 3, 2009t

    Bil’in demonstrates against ongoing night raids and arrests.
    3 August 2009

    At around 3am on Monday morning, a large military force wearing combat paint and masks invaded the West Bank village of Bil’in. Israeli soldiers raided several homes, arresting 2 Palestinian children, 5 Palestinian adults including Mohammad Khatib of the Bil’in Popular Committee Against the Wall and Settlements. The home of another member of the Popular Committee was raided, but soldiers could not arrest him because he was not present at home.

    Also arrested were the three brothers Khaled Shawkat Abd-Alrazic al-Khateeb (age 23), Mustafa Shawkat Abd-Alrazic al-Khateeb (age18), and Mohammed Show gut Abd-Alrazic al-Khateeb (age 16); Abdullah Ahmad Yassen (age 18); Abdullah Mohammed Ali Yassen (age 16); Issa Mahmoud Issa Abu Rahma (age 40); This brings to 19 the number of Biliner’s currently in custody.

    Monday’s raid is another in a series of many that Israeli forces have carried out in Bil’in since June 29 June 2009, Israeli forces have arrested 25 people (most are under 18). Israeli forces have been using interrogation techniques to pressure the arrested youth to give statements against Bil’in community leaders.

    Abdullah Abu Rahme, coordinator of the popular committee stated, “Mohmmad Khatib and Adib Abu Rahme along with other leaders of the Palestinian popular struggle are being targeted because the mobilize Palestinians to resist non- violently. The fact is that the Apartheid Wall and the settlements built on Palestinian land are illegal under international law, in the case of our village even the biased Israeli court declared the route illegal. Yet Israel is prosecuting us as criminals because we struggle nonviolently for our freedom.”

  56. mebosa ritchie said on August 4th, 2009 at 3:14am #

    jon,don’t fall in to the trap of using jew hate speak like settlers.
    they are israeli citizens who happened to move in at the request of the legal owners
    pre 48 land in israel,as far as most arabs are concerned belongs,in its entirety to arabs

  57. mebosa ritchie said on August 4th, 2009 at 3:19am #

    hamas–the caring side of the palestinians

    Hamas blocks 50 from leaving Strip
    50 Palestinians who were supposed to cross into Israel from the Gaza Strip Tuesday, mostly in order to receive medical treatment in israel, were repelled by Hamas security forces at the Beit Hameches Junction just west of the Erez Crossing. In the north-eastern Gaza Strip.

    Hamas operatives blocked off the road and prevented the Palestinians from reaching the crossing with Israel.

    Israeli officials said the Hamas blockade was likely part of paranoia by the terror group that Fatah officials were disguised as sick people who required treatment in Israeli hospitals, in an effort to sneak out of Gaza to attend the Fatah conference which was due to open in Bethlehem Tuesday morning.

    Hamas men at the junction ordered the people who arrived to return to the Interior Ministry in Gaza City and have their permits to leave the Strip reissued.

  58. jon s said on August 4th, 2009 at 3:43am #

    Mebosa,
    The settlements are illegal, all of them, and will have to be removed in the context of any possible peace agreement. I don’t see how using the term “settlers” is wrong in any way.
    You don’t seem to get my point : it’s not a good idea for Israel to recognize pre-1948 property rights.

  59. pete thommes said on September 30th, 2009 at 9:36pm #

    i do not for one minute believe israel wants peace . that would upset their plan to take over the whole middle east. what have we come to in america . all this talk about human rights in china , russia etc. who gives a rat ass about some arab who just want,s to live the way he has the last 10,00 years. ah america what have you come to.