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		<title>By: B99</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/israel-pisses-on-britain-again/#comment-49858</link>
		<dc:creator>B99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bozh -

Actually, the US and other Western Countries do not quibble with the UN assignation of the WB &amp; G being illegally occupied.  The US has but once changed the terminology to &#039;disputed&#039;  but has not repeated that term again.  

The UN voted incorrectly to recognize Israel and admit it to the UN because it was controlled by the powers that emerged out of WWII - including socialist states.  But if these resolutions can be reversed then so too can all the resolutions favoring the Palestinians.

But yes, the UN is definitely obligated to impose sanctions on Israel - and demand it remove itself from the WB&amp; G and repatriate the refugees as it promised to gain admission to the UN.  And if sanctions do not work, the UN is obligated to step up the pressure up to and including military action.  Israel should be held to the same standard that Iraq was held for invading Kuwait. That would go a long way towards establishing true credibility to the UN.  But that cannot happen without US permission, perhaps when hell freezes over.  And I can&#039;t think of a UN force taking such action against a nuclear power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bozh -</p>
<p>Actually, the US and other Western Countries do not quibble with the UN assignation of the WB &amp; G being illegally occupied.  The US has but once changed the terminology to &#8216;disputed&#8217;  but has not repeated that term again.  </p>
<p>The UN voted incorrectly to recognize Israel and admit it to the UN because it was controlled by the powers that emerged out of WWII &#8211; including socialist states.  But if these resolutions can be reversed then so too can all the resolutions favoring the Palestinians.</p>
<p>But yes, the UN is definitely obligated to impose sanctions on Israel &#8211; and demand it remove itself from the WB&amp; G and repatriate the refugees as it promised to gain admission to the UN.  And if sanctions do not work, the UN is obligated to step up the pressure up to and including military action.  Israel should be held to the same standard that Iraq was held for invading Kuwait. That would go a long way towards establishing true credibility to the UN.  But that cannot happen without US permission, perhaps when hell freezes over.  And I can&#8217;t think of a UN force taking such action against a nuclear power.</p>
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		<title>By: B99</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/israel-pisses-on-britain-again/#comment-49851</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 20:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops, last paragraph of prior message is Mebosa&#039;s - forgot to delete it.</description>
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		<title>By: B99</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/israel-pisses-on-britain-again/#comment-49850</link>
		<dc:creator>B99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 20:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mebosa - The UN never declared Jerusalem an international city.  That was a UN General Assembly recommendation - part of a package of recommendations  rejected by the Palestinians as was their right.  And the issue was not raised again by the UN.  Then, beginning in late 1947 the Jews began their armed conquest of all of Palestine, eventually doing battle with King Abdallah&#039;s  forces on the West Bank after a period where they agreed not to attack each other.  The Jews - now Israeli Jews - conquered most of Jerusalem - the Jordanians retained East Jerusalem.

The Jews routinely blew up and bulldozed mosques, churches and shrines before, during, and after the 48/49 war.  Even today, Israel is building a Museum of  Tolerance over a Muslim cemetary in Jerusalem. Hows that for Orwellian irony?

To this day, Muslims do not have free access to the Temple Mount.  The Israeli military closes it arbitrarily.  The Temple Mount will not be free until the Occupation of Palestine ends.



everyone is free to visit israel including free access to all the holy sites in jerusalem.
when the un declared jerusalem an international city,the jordanian-palestinians took over the eastern bit and closed off and desecrated jewish and christian holy sites.
and the un did nothing
it is only since israel recovered the city in 1967 that the world has had free access to all the holy sites including muslim ones</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mebosa &#8211; The UN never declared Jerusalem an international city.  That was a UN General Assembly recommendation &#8211; part of a package of recommendations  rejected by the Palestinians as was their right.  And the issue was not raised again by the UN.  Then, beginning in late 1947 the Jews began their armed conquest of all of Palestine, eventually doing battle with King Abdallah&#8217;s  forces on the West Bank after a period where they agreed not to attack each other.  The Jews &#8211; now Israeli Jews &#8211; conquered most of Jerusalem &#8211; the Jordanians retained East Jerusalem.</p>
<p>The Jews routinely blew up and bulldozed mosques, churches and shrines before, during, and after the 48/49 war.  Even today, Israel is building a Museum of  Tolerance over a Muslim cemetary in Jerusalem. Hows that for Orwellian irony?</p>
<p>To this day, Muslims do not have free access to the Temple Mount.  The Israeli military closes it arbitrarily.  The Temple Mount will not be free until the Occupation of Palestine ends.</p>
<p>everyone is free to visit israel including free access to all the holy sites in jerusalem.<br />
when the un declared jerusalem an international city,the jordanian-palestinians took over the eastern bit and closed off and desecrated jewish and christian holy sites.<br />
and the un did nothing<br />
it is only since israel recovered the city in 1967 that the world has had free access to all the holy sites including muslim ones</p>
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		<title>By: Deadbeat</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/israel-pisses-on-britain-again/#comment-49849</link>
		<dc:creator>Deadbeat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 20:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dan e writes ...

&lt;i&gt;but as long as we keep playing footsie with these “now you see them, now you don’t” Liberals such as Chomsky and pals, nothing will change.&lt;/i&gt;

The way to weed out these liberal zionist is for the Left to mount a serious campaign against ALL FORM of Racism (i.e. Zionism) especially in the United States.  Clearly there has been a shift as more people are starting to focus on Israel and its practices but there has to be greater focus on how Zionism has affected the U.S. political economy.  Confronting Zionism is probably the weakest link in the overall aspects of U.S. Imperialism because there are already foot-soldiers in this battle.  It&#039;s up to the Left to help organizes people of color who are ready allies in this battle.

The liberal Zionist especially reveal themselves when it comes to the issue of Racism especially when it comes to confronting Zionism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dan e writes &#8230;</p>
<p><i>but as long as we keep playing footsie with these “now you see them, now you don’t” Liberals such as Chomsky and pals, nothing will change.</i></p>
<p>The way to weed out these liberal zionist is for the Left to mount a serious campaign against ALL FORM of Racism (i.e. Zionism) especially in the United States.  Clearly there has been a shift as more people are starting to focus on Israel and its practices but there has to be greater focus on how Zionism has affected the U.S. political economy.  Confronting Zionism is probably the weakest link in the overall aspects of U.S. Imperialism because there are already foot-soldiers in this battle.  It&#8217;s up to the Left to help organizes people of color who are ready allies in this battle.</p>
<p>The liberal Zionist especially reveal themselves when it comes to the issue of Racism especially when it comes to confronting Zionism.</p>
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		<title>By: B99</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/israel-pisses-on-britain-again/#comment-49846</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 20:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Max - Obamabat??  Everytime we have a conversation you get hostile (actually you get hostile with most everyone) - and then step in a big Green Bucket of snot.  First, you tried to establish yourself as Mr Green on this site without knowing the slightest bit of history of the Greens in America.  In fact, you were dead wrong on their history - shall I review our exchange for you?   Then you tried to cover it up with half-baked throw-away comments such as denigrating Kirkpatrick Sale - as if that would equalize our arguments (to wit, that I was lying to say the Greens existed in the 1990s was balanced by the fact that Kirk Sale was not so important, anyway).

Then you put your other foot in the snot bucket with your DNA reference to Israelis/Zionists/Jews - which reference puts you in league with all those reactionairies and racists who think that Jews have different genetic propensities than the rest of us.  So you madly go over the record to count how many times I referred to Jews in my posts - only to find out that I use the term intentionally because it corresponds to using Palestinian.  But you had already fallen into the trap of not using the term Jews because not all Jews are Zionists.  As if all Palestinians, or for that matter, all of any group are one thing.

I&#039;d say you&#039;d be better off on the Green campaign trail, but apparently your anger got the best of you there as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Max &#8211; Obamabat??  Everytime we have a conversation you get hostile (actually you get hostile with most everyone) &#8211; and then step in a big Green Bucket of snot.  First, you tried to establish yourself as Mr Green on this site without knowing the slightest bit of history of the Greens in America.  In fact, you were dead wrong on their history &#8211; shall I review our exchange for you?   Then you tried to cover it up with half-baked throw-away comments such as denigrating Kirkpatrick Sale &#8211; as if that would equalize our arguments (to wit, that I was lying to say the Greens existed in the 1990s was balanced by the fact that Kirk Sale was not so important, anyway).</p>
<p>Then you put your other foot in the snot bucket with your DNA reference to Israelis/Zionists/Jews &#8211; which reference puts you in league with all those reactionairies and racists who think that Jews have different genetic propensities than the rest of us.  So you madly go over the record to count how many times I referred to Jews in my posts &#8211; only to find out that I use the term intentionally because it corresponds to using Palestinian.  But you had already fallen into the trap of not using the term Jews because not all Jews are Zionists.  As if all Palestinians, or for that matter, all of any group are one thing.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d say you&#8217;d be better off on the Green campaign trail, but apparently your anger got the best of you there as well.</p>
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		<title>By: dan e</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/israel-pisses-on-britain-again/#comment-49844</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 19:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boycott Lesser-Evilism. Chomsky and his ilk, no matter what their academic or other achievements, are first of all Zio-Symps, i.e., friends of Zionized ne0-Imperialism. If you want to do something effective to oppose &quot;current US policy&quot;, to oppose these wars/occupations/colonialist state terrorism, you need to wean yourself from the notion that a person can be a Democratic Pty activist and still be a decent person. 
We can boycott, we can at great risk and sacrifice deliver a tiny smidge of humanitarian aid, we can engage in &quot;Progressive Activities&quot; 24/7 -- but as long as we keep playing footsie with these &quot;now you see them, now  you don&#039;t&quot; Liberals such as Chomsky and pals, nothing will change. 
Which isn&#039;t to say that we can&#039;t from time to time work for objectives that some Democrats may also support, at least verbally. But we have to be clear that such temporary tactical convergences are just that, and not get confused about who these Liberal Zionists really are, and what role they play in the overall scheme of things. They&#039;re really part &amp; parcel of the War Machine, just as much as Bush &amp; Cheney.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boycott Lesser-Evilism. Chomsky and his ilk, no matter what their academic or other achievements, are first of all Zio-Symps, i.e., friends of Zionized ne0-Imperialism. If you want to do something effective to oppose &#8220;current US policy&#8221;, to oppose these wars/occupations/colonialist state terrorism, you need to wean yourself from the notion that a person can be a Democratic Pty activist and still be a decent person.<br />
We can boycott, we can at great risk and sacrifice deliver a tiny smidge of humanitarian aid, we can engage in &#8220;Progressive Activities&#8221; 24/7 &#8212; but as long as we keep playing footsie with these &#8220;now you see them, now  you don&#8217;t&#8221; Liberals such as Chomsky and pals, nothing will change.<br />
Which isn&#8217;t to say that we can&#8217;t from time to time work for objectives that some Democrats may also support, at least verbally. But we have to be clear that such temporary tactical convergences are just that, and not get confused about who these Liberal Zionists really are, and what role they play in the overall scheme of things. They&#8217;re really part &amp; parcel of the War Machine, just as much as Bush &amp; Cheney.</p>
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		<title>By: mary</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/israel-pisses-on-britain-again/#comment-49835</link>
		<dc:creator>mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 18:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Boarish Emetic&#039; always has to have the last word and much good may it do him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Boarish Emetic&#8217; always has to have the last word and much good may it do him.</p>
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		<title>By: mebosa ritchie</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/israel-pisses-on-britain-again/#comment-49633</link>
		<dc:creator>mebosa ritchie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 18:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nosy,you must add microsoft,intel,motorola to your boycott list and don&#039;t forget to throw your cellphone away
it will make you feel warm inside that you&#039;re doing something</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nosy,you must add microsoft,intel,motorola to your boycott list and don&#8217;t forget to throw your cellphone away<br />
it will make you feel warm inside that you&#8217;re doing something</p>
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		<title>By: Noisy Tappet</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/israel-pisses-on-britain-again/#comment-49627</link>
		<dc:creator>Noisy Tappet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 16:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nokia&#039;s another one that goes on the boycott list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nokia&#8217;s another one that goes on the boycott list.</p>
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		<title>By: mebosa ritchie</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/israel-pisses-on-britain-again/#comment-49615</link>
		<dc:creator>mebosa ritchie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 12:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FOR MARY AND MUGLA   MORE GOOD NEWS

Israel crushes Russia in tennis history
Sensational. Incredible. Stunning. Amazing. 
Ram and Erlich celebrate a point against Safin and Kunitsyn on Saturday. 
It is difficult to find the words to describe the magnitude of Israel&#039;s historic 3-0 victory over Russia in the Davis Cup quarterfinals at the Nokia Arena in Tel Aviv on Friday and Saturday. 

Until Saturday Israel had never made it past the quarterfinals of the competition, and reached the last eight only once, 22 years ago when it lost to India in New Delhi. 

But this all changed over two days of outstanding tennis. 

After Harel Levy and Dudi Sela put the home side 2-0 up with superb performances in the opening singles matches on Friday, Andy Ram and Yoni Erlich finished the job off on Saturday, winning a nail biting five-setter against Marat Safin and Igor Kunitsyn. 

Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu phoned Israel Tennis Association CEO Moshe Haviv on Saturday night to congratulate him on the Davis Cup team&#039;s historic achievement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FOR MARY AND MUGLA   MORE GOOD NEWS</p>
<p>Israel crushes Russia in tennis history<br />
Sensational. Incredible. Stunning. Amazing.<br />
Ram and Erlich celebrate a point against Safin and Kunitsyn on Saturday.<br />
It is difficult to find the words to describe the magnitude of Israel&#8217;s historic 3-0 victory over Russia in the Davis Cup quarterfinals at the Nokia Arena in Tel Aviv on Friday and Saturday. </p>
<p>Until Saturday Israel had never made it past the quarterfinals of the competition, and reached the last eight only once, 22 years ago when it lost to India in New Delhi. </p>
<p>But this all changed over two days of outstanding tennis. </p>
<p>After Harel Levy and Dudi Sela put the home side 2-0 up with superb performances in the opening singles matches on Friday, Andy Ram and Yoni Erlich finished the job off on Saturday, winning a nail biting five-setter against Marat Safin and Igor Kunitsyn. </p>
<p>Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu phoned Israel Tennis Association CEO Moshe Haviv on Saturday night to congratulate him on the Davis Cup team&#8217;s historic achievement.</p>
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		<title>By: bozhidar balkas vancouver</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/israel-pisses-on-britain-again/#comment-49521</link>
		<dc:creator>bozhidar balkas vancouver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 13:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in last elections, nader had gotten ab. 650K votes. Wld he have received another  mn votes had the &#039;critics&#039; of US foreign policy urged people to vote for nader?
in next election  the [closet?] critics/leftists wld have a chance to correct historical ?blunder or willful laming of the Left in US.
if they do not, then we shld boycott them even now.
i have already sworn off many writers in DV and ICH. I had enough of that in MSM. I don&#039;t read MSM or watch CNN. I am not going to read anything by any asocialist. tnx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in last elections, nader had gotten ab. 650K votes. Wld he have received another  mn votes had the &#8216;critics&#8217; of US foreign policy urged people to vote for nader?<br />
in next election  the [closet?] critics/leftists wld have a chance to correct historical ?blunder or willful laming of the Left in US.<br />
if they do not, then we shld boycott them even now.<br />
i have already sworn off many writers in DV and ICH. I had enough of that in MSM. I don&#8217;t read MSM or watch CNN. I am not going to read anything by any asocialist. tnx</p>
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		<title>By: bozhidar balkas vancouver</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>using the word  &quot;influence&quot; , which  &#039;zionists&#039;  exert on US foreign policy [since when? 50&#039;s?] means that one can&#039;t ever obtain an exact picture of what is going on in US.
the word influence can be likened onto words like &quot;justice&quot;,  &quot;peace process&quot;,  &quot;security&quot;, &quot;terrorism&quot;  and many such lofty but misleading words.
such words are misleading because schooling, media, clero-political class had imbued thsese words with false symbolic values.
such words are used because they symbolize enormous number of events; resulting almost always  in chery picking/dropping  just one, two, or few events in order to lead people astray.
damn it! It always works! In italy, germany, and japan in &#039;39-45 period also.
and it takes  to drop only one salient fact to present a fictive reality and off we go accepting such strategems as honesty, truth, defense, etc. 
tnx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>using the word  &#8220;influence&#8221; , which  &#8216;zionists&#8217;  exert on US foreign policy [since when? 50's?] means that one can&#8217;t ever obtain an exact picture of what is going on in US.<br />
the word influence can be likened onto words like &#8220;justice&#8221;,  &#8220;peace process&#8221;,  &#8220;security&#8221;, &#8220;terrorism&#8221;  and many such lofty but misleading words.<br />
such words are misleading because schooling, media, clero-political class had imbued thsese words with false symbolic values.<br />
such words are used because they symbolize enormous number of events; resulting almost always  in chery picking/dropping  just one, two, or few events in order to lead people astray.<br />
damn it! It always works! In italy, germany, and japan in &#8216;39-45 period also.<br />
and it takes  to drop only one salient fact to present a fictive reality and off we go accepting such strategems as honesty, truth, defense, etc.<br />
tnx</p>
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		<title>By: mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 10:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As Bozh says  -  Recognition of israel [which does not as yet exist] amounts to rewarding enormous irgun, stern, and haganah crimes against humanities with a state.

Quite. And the gangs that perpetrated those crimes  were the forerunners of  today&#039;s IDF as a friend has said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Bozh says  &#8211;  Recognition of israel [which does not as yet exist] amounts to rewarding enormous irgun, stern, and haganah crimes against humanities with a state.</p>
<p>Quite. And the gangs that perpetrated those crimes  were the forerunners of  today&#8217;s IDF as a friend has said.</p>
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		<title>By: Deadbeat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deadbeat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 03:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KL5 writes ...

&lt;i&gt;In my opinion Zionism is a part of a whole, namely U.S. Imperialism. I allow myself to remind you that the world is much larger than Israel and the Middle East. I am Against overzionizing the U.S. foreign policy. Thank you again.&lt;/i&gt;

The problem has NOT been the &quot;overzionizing&quot; but the UNDER-zionizing to outright deny any Zionism&#039;s influence of U.S. politics</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KL5 writes &#8230;</p>
<p><i>In my opinion Zionism is a part of a whole, namely U.S. Imperialism. I allow myself to remind you that the world is much larger than Israel and the Middle East. I am Against overzionizing the U.S. foreign policy. Thank you again.</i></p>
<p>The problem has NOT been the &#8220;overzionizing&#8221; but the UNDER-zionizing to outright deny any Zionism&#8217;s influence of U.S. politics</p>
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		<title>By: bozhidar balkas vancouver</title>
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		<dc:creator>bozhidar balkas vancouver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 00:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>michale d,
voting for either obama or mccain gives  political capital t0 either candidate or long-standing US foreign policy.
voting for nader was a vote against long-standing US policy of expansionism as well as for  own inheritance: healthcare, right to be informed, etc.
in fact, 98% of amers just last nov. disinherited selves of those two sane basic human rights.

chomsky is for one state nonsolution. Recognition of israel [which does not as yet exist] amounts to rewarding enormous  irgun, stern, and haganah crimes against humanities with a state.
i cannot an will never approbate those crimes. Nor will i ever approbate crimes of european evil empires for making those crimes possible.
further more chomsky shld hang his head in shame by urging amers to vote for  &quot;lesser evil&quot;.
which is becoming greater evil as i have predicted prior to O&#039;s selection.
It  amounted to telling people not to vote for healthcare, free education, and the right to be informed.
which means he is also afascist in addition to being a zionist. tnx 
caveat: u get only one more personal attack; thereafter, i do not read anything u write. And, that&#039;s not a political promise!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>michale d,<br />
voting for either obama or mccain gives  political capital t0 either candidate or long-standing US foreign policy.<br />
voting for nader was a vote against long-standing US policy of expansionism as well as for  own inheritance: healthcare, right to be informed, etc.<br />
in fact, 98% of amers just last nov. disinherited selves of those two sane basic human rights.</p>
<p>chomsky is for one state nonsolution. Recognition of israel [which does not as yet exist] amounts to rewarding enormous  irgun, stern, and haganah crimes against humanities with a state.<br />
i cannot an will never approbate those crimes. Nor will i ever approbate crimes of european evil empires for making those crimes possible.<br />
further more chomsky shld hang his head in shame by urging amers to vote for  &#8220;lesser evil&#8221;.<br />
which is becoming greater evil as i have predicted prior to O&#8217;s selection.<br />
It  amounted to telling people not to vote for healthcare, free education, and the right to be informed.<br />
which means he is also afascist in addition to being a zionist. tnx<br />
caveat: u get only one more personal attack; thereafter, i do not read anything u write. And, that&#8217;s not a political promise!!</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Dawson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Dawson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 22:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wasn&#039;t aware that Israel policy was up for any kind of debate in the last election, Bozh.  How do you imagine that it was?

As for Chomsky being a Zionism, that&#039;s just willful ignorance, if not slander.

If you want the truth, watch this lecture, in which Chomsky calls Zionism a bad idea:
http://mitworld.mit.edu/video/403</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wasn&#8217;t aware that Israel policy was up for any kind of debate in the last election, Bozh.  How do you imagine that it was?</p>
<p>As for Chomsky being a Zionism, that&#8217;s just willful ignorance, if not slander.</p>
<p>If you want the truth, watch this lecture, in which Chomsky calls Zionism a bad idea:<br />
<a href="http://mitworld.mit.edu/video/403" rel="nofollow">http://mitworld.mit.edu/video/403</a></p>
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		<title>By: bozhidar balkas vancouver</title>
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		<dc:creator>bozhidar balkas vancouver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 21:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a leftist to me is a person who demands that everone obtains healthcare and free higher education.
s/he&#039;s also for the right to be informed; which means that no private person can own knowledge which wld ensure that we all obtain also information and not disinformation.

a leftist cannot be  land robber. S/he wld condemn wars on a principle  and not on a rationalization, &#039;explanations&#039;, or expediency.
Chomsky approbates land robbery by israel but probably not land robbing by US. 
tnx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a leftist to me is a person who demands that everone obtains healthcare and free higher education.<br />
s/he&#8217;s also for the right to be informed; which means that no private person can own knowledge which wld ensure that we all obtain also information and not disinformation.</p>
<p>a leftist cannot be  land robber. S/he wld condemn wars on a principle  and not on a rationalization, &#8216;explanations&#8217;, or expediency.<br />
Chomsky approbates land robbery by israel but probably not land robbing by US.<br />
tnx</p>
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		<title>By: KL5</title>
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		<dc:creator>KL5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 20:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deadbeat,

Thank you for the explanation. I have no doubt that Chomsky is a Zionist and Zionists in the U.S. know about that. Had he not been a Zionist, he would have lost his tenure as a professor of linguistics years ago. But his political thinking has never interested me.

In my opinion Zionism is a part of a whole, namely U.S. Imperialism. I allow myself to remind you that the world is much larger than Israel and the Middle East. I am Against overzionizing the U.S. foreign policy. Thank you again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deadbeat,</p>
<p>Thank you for the explanation. I have no doubt that Chomsky is a Zionist and Zionists in the U.S. know about that. Had he not been a Zionist, he would have lost his tenure as a professor of linguistics years ago. But his political thinking has never interested me.</p>
<p>In my opinion Zionism is a part of a whole, namely U.S. Imperialism. I allow myself to remind you that the world is much larger than Israel and the Middle East. I am Against overzionizing the U.S. foreign policy. Thank you again.</p>
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		<title>By: Deadbeat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deadbeat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 20:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From James Petras latest article...

&lt;i&gt;The propaganda success of the US-orchestrated destabilization campaign even found an echo among broad sections of what passes for the US ‘left’ who ignored the massive, coordinated US financing of key Iranian groups and politicos engaged in the street protests. Neo-conservative, liberal and itinerant leftist ‘free-lance journalists’, like Reese Erlich, defended the destabilization effort from their own particular vantage point as ‘a popular democratic movement against electoral fraud.’&lt;/i&gt;

He too uses &lt;i&gt;Left&lt;/i&gt; in quotes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From James Petras latest article&#8230;</p>
<p><i>The propaganda success of the US-orchestrated destabilization campaign even found an echo among broad sections of what passes for the US ‘left’ who ignored the massive, coordinated US financing of key Iranian groups and politicos engaged in the street protests. Neo-conservative, liberal and itinerant leftist ‘free-lance journalists’, like Reese Erlich, defended the destabilization effort from their own particular vantage point as ‘a popular democratic movement against electoral fraud.’</i></p>
<p>He too uses <i>Left</i> in quotes.</p>
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		<title>By: Deadbeat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deadbeat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 20:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan E writes...
&lt;i&gt;If novice anti-Zionists assume that “Left” equals BAD, they will be deprived of the chance to make use of tools ...&lt;/i&gt;

I guess that is a valid point.  Unfortunately these &quot;Liberal Zionists&quot; are identified as the Left and they have badly weaken the Left.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan E writes&#8230;<br />
<i>If novice anti-Zionists assume that “Left” equals BAD, they will be deprived of the chance to make use of tools &#8230;</i></p>
<p>I guess that is a valid point.  Unfortunately these &#8220;Liberal Zionists&#8221; are identified as the Left and they have badly weaken the Left.</p>
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