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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/getting-radicalized-slow-and-painful/#comment-50033</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 22:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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   Read &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.2theadvocate.com/news/politics/51067097.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; and the picture on the first page tell&#039;s a thousand words.

 Vitter said the bill faces opposition from most of the Senate’s 40 GOP members and some of the chamber’s 60 Democrats. Bills in the Senate need 60 votes to get around opponents and fatal delaying tactics.

  Of course remember a real try at this requires tax the carbon and return the money back to the people and what chance might that have with the powers that be and or nationalize energy.  to get around opponents and fatal delaying tactics in a few years millions then billions and that would be life forms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read <a href="http://www.2theadvocate.com/news/politics/51067097.html" rel="nofollow">this</a> and the picture on the first page tell&#8217;s a thousand words.</p>
<p> Vitter said the bill faces opposition from most of the Senate’s 40 GOP members and some of the chamber’s 60 Democrats. Bills in the Senate need 60 votes to get around opponents and fatal delaying tactics.</p>
<p>  Of course remember a real try at this requires tax the carbon and return the money back to the people and what chance might that have with the powers that be and or nationalize energy.  to get around opponents and fatal delaying tactics in a few years millions then billions and that would be life forms.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/getting-radicalized-slow-and-painful/#comment-49984</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 12:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>or what are your thoughts on war and peace?  Where are you going another cup of coffee it&#039;s on me.  You&#039;re going to the club wait come back the man in the corner is a genius and wanted to ask you a few more questions. The door opens the other way have a wonderful day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>or what are your thoughts on war and peace?  Where are you going another cup of coffee it&#8217;s on me.  You&#8217;re going to the club wait come back the man in the corner is a genius and wanted to ask you a few more questions. The door opens the other way have a wonderful day.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/getting-radicalized-slow-and-painful/#comment-49982</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 12:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When the truth is determined by the money and the power in the year 2009 and if that is what to be the story it seems means be like me and yes you will never get there but try anyway and I say good cup of coffee love the suit and have you read Steinbeck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When the truth is determined by the money and the power in the year 2009 and if that is what to be the story it seems means be like me and yes you will never get there but try anyway and I say good cup of coffee love the suit and have you read Steinbeck.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/getting-radicalized-slow-and-painful/#comment-49980</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 11:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess you can put me in the out group.  It took me many years to understand this mad mad mad World.  The so called in group of course wants me to be like them sort of and that voice in the back of my head tell&#039;s me insanity is not a good thing. The strange part is without the out group there would be no in group or the other way around. Calm at peace.  Good cup of coffee anyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess you can put me in the out group.  It took me many years to understand this mad mad mad World.  The so called in group of course wants me to be like them sort of and that voice in the back of my head tell&#8217;s me insanity is not a good thing. The strange part is without the out group there would be no in group or the other way around. Calm at peace.  Good cup of coffee anyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Esperanza Holford</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/getting-radicalized-slow-and-painful/#comment-49930</link>
		<dc:creator>Esperanza Holford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It has taken all of my 74 years to reach conclusions which probably are not shared by many people.  History has always fascinated me.  That doesn&#039;t mean I am an historian--a scholar I am not.  What I am is a curious person who starts one book and looks at bibliography and reads those and from there branches further.  Some of the most wonderful and well-researched historical books I have read are novels by exceptional authors.

Several books expanded my view of human nature and the world.  &quot;The Source&quot; by James Michener; Julian Huxley&#039;s books on Humanism; &quot;The Territorial Imperative&quot; by Robert Ardrey; &quot;The Maked Ape&quot; and &quot;The Human Zoo&quot; by Desmond Morris; &quot;Palel Blue Dot&quot; by Carl Sagan;  Thomas Paine&#039;s wonderful books.  One book led to another and then another until I had a clear picture of our humanity--what seems to be written in our DNA.

Basically, I have concluded that biologically, we are small tribal animals very much a part of a small group.  These are the &quot;in&quot; groups.  Everyone else is part of an &quot;out&quot; group.  Imagine this so inculcated it is writtenn in our DNA.

Technologically now, we are not only global, but universal.  Imagine this conflict--biology vs. technology.  Which is going to win?

So, I believe these  dynamics exist within our DNA--small tribe; in group/out group and within the group alpha&#039;s and omega&#039;s; the territorial imperative--and I began to understand  our history of constant wars; our greed for acquisition of territory and status ( money and wealth are only means to such ends).  

It&#039;s all so simple, really, once you understand nature&#039;s dynamics, what drives us beyond even our own understanding.

I cannot agree with you more about this &quot;unhappy&quot; world.   Catholics often recite the words in &quot;Hail, Holy Queen&quot; to the Virgen Mary--&quot; to thee we cry, poor banished children of Eve; to thee we send up our sighs, mourning and weeping in this valley of tears.&quot;

Not only do humans fear--all living creatures run from death.  It&#039;s instinctual, isn&#039;t it?  So much more the human intellect acknowledges &quot;seeing death a necessary end  will come when it will come.&quot;  Yet, great pain of mind, soul, or body can overcome this fear!  This brings a question.  Why do humans strive to avoid life, finding escape in every type of substance imaginable?  Escape from fear and grief which plagues every living creature.  The struggle to survive in spite of all; the drive to propagate by hook or by crook.  These drive everything.

Enough about my philosophy.  I really enjoyed your article.  I live outside of Johnson City toward Fredericksburg,  so am not far from you in Austin.  I hope someday I might get to hear you speak.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It has taken all of my 74 years to reach conclusions which probably are not shared by many people.  History has always fascinated me.  That doesn&#8217;t mean I am an historian&#8211;a scholar I am not.  What I am is a curious person who starts one book and looks at bibliography and reads those and from there branches further.  Some of the most wonderful and well-researched historical books I have read are novels by exceptional authors.</p>
<p>Several books expanded my view of human nature and the world.  &#8220;The Source&#8221; by James Michener; Julian Huxley&#8217;s books on Humanism; &#8220;The Territorial Imperative&#8221; by Robert Ardrey; &#8220;The Maked Ape&#8221; and &#8220;The Human Zoo&#8221; by Desmond Morris; &#8220;Palel Blue Dot&#8221; by Carl Sagan;  Thomas Paine&#8217;s wonderful books.  One book led to another and then another until I had a clear picture of our humanity&#8211;what seems to be written in our DNA.</p>
<p>Basically, I have concluded that biologically, we are small tribal animals very much a part of a small group.  These are the &#8220;in&#8221; groups.  Everyone else is part of an &#8220;out&#8221; group.  Imagine this so inculcated it is writtenn in our DNA.</p>
<p>Technologically now, we are not only global, but universal.  Imagine this conflict&#8211;biology vs. technology.  Which is going to win?</p>
<p>So, I believe these  dynamics exist within our DNA&#8211;small tribe; in group/out group and within the group alpha&#8217;s and omega&#8217;s; the territorial imperative&#8211;and I began to understand  our history of constant wars; our greed for acquisition of territory and status ( money and wealth are only means to such ends).  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s all so simple, really, once you understand nature&#8217;s dynamics, what drives us beyond even our own understanding.</p>
<p>I cannot agree with you more about this &#8220;unhappy&#8221; world.   Catholics often recite the words in &#8220;Hail, Holy Queen&#8221; to the Virgen Mary&#8211;&#8221; to thee we cry, poor banished children of Eve; to thee we send up our sighs, mourning and weeping in this valley of tears.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not only do humans fear&#8211;all living creatures run from death.  It&#8217;s instinctual, isn&#8217;t it?  So much more the human intellect acknowledges &#8220;seeing death a necessary end  will come when it will come.&#8221;  Yet, great pain of mind, soul, or body can overcome this fear!  This brings a question.  Why do humans strive to avoid life, finding escape in every type of substance imaginable?  Escape from fear and grief which plagues every living creature.  The struggle to survive in spite of all; the drive to propagate by hook or by crook.  These drive everything.</p>
<p>Enough about my philosophy.  I really enjoyed your article.  I live outside of Johnson City toward Fredericksburg,  so am not far from you in Austin.  I hope someday I might get to hear you speak.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/getting-radicalized-slow-and-painful/#comment-49897</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:18:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again I sent this e-mail to CNBC this morning.     

 Morning,       

LONDON — An ugly scramble is brewing over the swine flu vaccine — and when it becomes available, Britain, the United States and other nations could find that the contracts they signed with pharmaceutical companies are easily broken.

Experts warn that during a global epidemic, which the world is in now, governments may be under tremendous pressure to protect their own citizens first before allowing companies to ship doses of vaccine out of the country.

That does not bode well for many nations, including the United States, which makes only 20 percent of the regular flu vaccines it uses, or Britain, where all of its flu vaccines are produced abroad.

&quot;This isn&#039;t rocket science,&quot; said Michael Osterholm, director of the Center for Infectious Diseases Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota. &quot;If there is severe disease, countries will want to hang onto the vaccine for their own citizens.&quot;

Experts say politicians would not be able to withstand the pressure.

&quot;The consequences of shipping vaccine to another country when your own people don&#039;t have it would be devastating,&quot; added David Fedson, a retired vaccine industry executive.

About 70 percent of the world&#039;s existing flu vaccines are made in Europe, and only a handful of countries are self-sufficient in vaccines. The U.S. has limited flu vaccine facilities, and because factories can&#039;t be built overnight, there is no quick fix to boost vaccine supplies. 

    July 17 (Bloomberg) -- Britons were told not to panic over swine flu today after the nation’s most senior doctor said the health service is planning for 65,000 deaths from the disease, which has claimed 29 lives so far in the U.K.  (Bloomberg)

     It&#039;s the economy stupid.    and only a handful of countries are self-sufficient in vaccines. How about here in the States will we be told not to panic.  Is it not amazing that in this country you can buy a handy dandy whatever and half the kid&#039;s can&#039;t read.  Shark shark, Oh don&#039;t worry would you like to buy a T-shirt or what about a nice beach chair?  Oh look there goes the Governor&#039;s helicopter you see all is under control how about a nice ice cream bar?  The whole thing takes my breath away.  Anyway how is the dollar doing today is it behaving well?     

     PEOPLE OF EARTH WE ARE IN DEEP DO DO! 

      Glenn Beck was crying on his show last night then told people why he was crying.  Anyway how is the dollar doing today is it behaving well?  Glenn told me last night our very freedom is under attack. So that&#039;s what it is I knew something was a little off. 

  Don</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again I sent this e-mail to CNBC this morning.     </p>
<p> Morning,       </p>
<p>LONDON — An ugly scramble is brewing over the swine flu vaccine — and when it becomes available, Britain, the United States and other nations could find that the contracts they signed with pharmaceutical companies are easily broken.</p>
<p>Experts warn that during a global epidemic, which the world is in now, governments may be under tremendous pressure to protect their own citizens first before allowing companies to ship doses of vaccine out of the country.</p>
<p>That does not bode well for many nations, including the United States, which makes only 20 percent of the regular flu vaccines it uses, or Britain, where all of its flu vaccines are produced abroad.</p>
<p>&#8220;This isn&#8217;t rocket science,&#8221; said Michael Osterholm, director of the Center for Infectious Diseases Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota. &#8220;If there is severe disease, countries will want to hang onto the vaccine for their own citizens.&#8221;</p>
<p>Experts say politicians would not be able to withstand the pressure.</p>
<p>&#8220;The consequences of shipping vaccine to another country when your own people don&#8217;t have it would be devastating,&#8221; added David Fedson, a retired vaccine industry executive.</p>
<p>About 70 percent of the world&#8217;s existing flu vaccines are made in Europe, and only a handful of countries are self-sufficient in vaccines. The U.S. has limited flu vaccine facilities, and because factories can&#8217;t be built overnight, there is no quick fix to boost vaccine supplies. </p>
<p>    July 17 (Bloomberg) &#8212; Britons were told not to panic over swine flu today after the nation’s most senior doctor said the health service is planning for 65,000 deaths from the disease, which has claimed 29 lives so far in the U.K.  (Bloomberg)</p>
<p>     It&#8217;s the economy stupid.    and only a handful of countries are self-sufficient in vaccines. How about here in the States will we be told not to panic.  Is it not amazing that in this country you can buy a handy dandy whatever and half the kid&#8217;s can&#8217;t read.  Shark shark, Oh don&#8217;t worry would you like to buy a T-shirt or what about a nice beach chair?  Oh look there goes the Governor&#8217;s helicopter you see all is under control how about a nice ice cream bar?  The whole thing takes my breath away.  Anyway how is the dollar doing today is it behaving well?     </p>
<p>     PEOPLE OF EARTH WE ARE IN DEEP DO DO! </p>
<p>      Glenn Beck was crying on his show last night then told people why he was crying.  Anyway how is the dollar doing today is it behaving well?  Glenn told me last night our very freedom is under attack. So that&#8217;s what it is I knew something was a little off. </p>
<p>  Don</p>
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