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		<title>By: B99</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/dangerous-untreated-west-bank-wastewater/#comment-50624</link>
		<dc:creator>B99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 18:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These rabbis were Syrian-Jews, I understand.  So imagine, as Mary suggests they were Muslim clerics - say, Syrian Muslim clerics.  And Syria is an ally of Iran.  Ah, the Iranian connection.  Bad people, bad country. bad religion - bomb them. And bomb Syria too.

I got lucky bringing up the Israeli organ trade just as their brethren in Brooklyn and Jersey are busted doing same.  A week later and my story is old hat.

And yes, Israel is pretty much a blight.  The hatred and paranoia towards non-Jews is so strong that they turn to the Torah for guidance - and the Torah tells them - go for it - it is no crime to drug or pilfer from the gentiles.  Israel - the &#039;Goniff State.&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These rabbis were Syrian-Jews, I understand.  So imagine, as Mary suggests they were Muslim clerics &#8211; say, Syrian Muslim clerics.  And Syria is an ally of Iran.  Ah, the Iranian connection.  Bad people, bad country. bad religion &#8211; bomb them. And bomb Syria too.</p>
<p>I got lucky bringing up the Israeli organ trade just as their brethren in Brooklyn and Jersey are busted doing same.  A week later and my story is old hat.</p>
<p>And yes, Israel is pretty much a blight.  The hatred and paranoia towards non-Jews is so strong that they turn to the Torah for guidance &#8211; and the Torah tells them &#8211; go for it &#8211; it is no crime to drug or pilfer from the gentiles.  Israel &#8211; the &#8216;Goniff State.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Mulga Mumblebrain</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/dangerous-untreated-west-bank-wastewater/#comment-50575</link>
		<dc:creator>Mulga Mumblebrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 22:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mary, we all know how the Zionists and their bought and paid for political stooges define &#039;anti-Semitism&#039;. That  it is present whenever  a goy hestitates for a second to sing Israel, or Judaism or any particular &#039;Chosen Person&#039;s&#039; praises, or dares express sympathy for the &#039;terrorwists&#039; in Gaza, or their &#039;suicide spawn&#039; as I recently saw one of the local Zionazis describe Gazan children. And haven&#039;t the shennanigans in Noo Joysey beautifully illustrated B99&#039;s observations concerning the Judaic organ trade. One of the malignant results of Israel establishing itself as a rogue state in absolute contempt of international law and the real &#039;international community&#039; of the Israeli detested UN General Assembly, is that Israel has become a centre of organised crime. From the blood diamond trade in Africa, to drug running, human trafficking, industrial espionage, money laundering and arms shipments to any group willing to pay, Israel is a centre of every type of malfeasance. And they have the easiest method for diverting attention from this organised crime wave. You guessed it-just start screeching &#039;Anti-Semite&#039; over and over again, until it all goes away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mary, we all know how the Zionists and their bought and paid for political stooges define &#8216;anti-Semitism&#8217;. That  it is present whenever  a goy hestitates for a second to sing Israel, or Judaism or any particular &#8216;Chosen Person&#8217;s&#8217; praises, or dares express sympathy for the &#8216;terrorwists&#8217; in Gaza, or their &#8216;suicide spawn&#8217; as I recently saw one of the local Zionazis describe Gazan children. And haven&#8217;t the shennanigans in Noo Joysey beautifully illustrated B99&#8242;s observations concerning the Judaic organ trade. One of the malignant results of Israel establishing itself as a rogue state in absolute contempt of international law and the real &#8216;international community&#8217; of the Israeli detested UN General Assembly, is that Israel has become a centre of organised crime. From the blood diamond trade in Africa, to drug running, human trafficking, industrial espionage, money laundering and arms shipments to any group willing to pay, Israel is a centre of every type of malfeasance. And they have the easiest method for diverting attention from this organised crime wave. You guessed it-just start screeching &#8216;Anti-Semite&#8217; over and over again, until it all goes away.</p>
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		<title>By: mary</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/dangerous-untreated-west-bank-wastewater/#comment-50568</link>
		<dc:creator>mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 21:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Off the current topic but here&#039;s an unpleasant story.  If these were Muslim clerics, the story would be all over our newspapers and  TV channels. There is no  mention of  it in the UK media.
 
http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/07/24/gilad-atzmon-time-to-talk-about-the-rise-of-jewish-crime/

Time to Talk about the Rise of Jewish Crime?
By Gilad Atzmon • Jul 24th 

&quot;I am what you call a matchmaker,&quot; Rosenbaum is quoted as saying at a July 13 meeting with the two undercover agents. 

&quot;I&#039;m doing this a long time,&quot; the complaint says Rosenbaum told the two agents. He then added: &quot;Let me explain to you one thing. It&#039;s illegal to buy or sell organs. … So you cannot buy it. What you do is, you&#039;re giving a compensation for the time.&quot;

As we learn from Liberal Democrat Shadow Home Secretary Chris Huhne that “Britain is setting a shameful new record in anti-Semitic incidents this year,” we also happen to be informed by every press outlet about the massive New Jersey Corruption Sweep:  A shocking tale of money-laundering and human organ trading led by a bunch of Rabbis.

The NY Times reports “It was replete with tales of the illegal sales of body parts; of furtive negotiations in diners, parking lots and boiler rooms”.  In an article titled the “Jewish Launderette” the Israeli Ynet takes it further  providing the juicy details. “The FBI raided synagogues and arrested a few Rabbis. One of those who are held in custody is Rabbi Yitzchak Levi Rosenbaum of Brooklyn who is suspected of trading in body parts. He is charged with a decade-long activity selling kidneys, exploiting both ill and poor donators. He would convince a donator to sell his kidney for $10.000. Rabbi Levi Rosenbaum would then sell the kidney to the needy for $160.000.”

I may raise the inevitable question here, can you imagine your local priest or Imam trading in ‘body parts’? Can you think of a Muslim cleric or a pastor trying to buy your kidney or sell you one in a ‘parking lot’ or in a &#039;diner’?
 
I do not think so.
 
Here is my suggestion to Liberal Democrat Shadow Home Secretary and everyone else who happens to be ‘concerned’ with the ‘rise of anti-Semitism’.
 
In the light of Israeli brutality, the conviction of gross swindler Madoff and the latest images of Rabbis being taken away by FBI agents, it is about time we stop discussing the rise of anti-Semitism and start to elaborate on the rise of Jewish Crime.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~There are live links in the original. The rise in anti-Semitism in the UK is being attributed to the recent Israeli offensive on Gaza, Operation Cast Lead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Off the current topic but here&#8217;s an unpleasant story.  If these were Muslim clerics, the story would be all over our newspapers and  TV channels. There is no  mention of  it in the UK media.</p>
<p><a href="http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/07/24/gilad-atzmon-time-to-talk-about-the-rise-of-jewish-crime/" rel="nofollow">http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/07/24/gilad-atzmon-time-to-talk-about-the-rise-of-jewish-crime/</a></p>
<p>Time to Talk about the Rise of Jewish Crime?<br />
By Gilad Atzmon • Jul 24th </p>
<p>&#8220;I am what you call a matchmaker,&#8221; Rosenbaum is quoted as saying at a July 13 meeting with the two undercover agents. </p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m doing this a long time,&#8221; the complaint says Rosenbaum told the two agents. He then added: &#8220;Let me explain to you one thing. It&#8217;s illegal to buy or sell organs. … So you cannot buy it. What you do is, you&#8217;re giving a compensation for the time.&#8221;</p>
<p>As we learn from Liberal Democrat Shadow Home Secretary Chris Huhne that “Britain is setting a shameful new record in anti-Semitic incidents this year,” we also happen to be informed by every press outlet about the massive New Jersey Corruption Sweep:  A shocking tale of money-laundering and human organ trading led by a bunch of Rabbis.</p>
<p>The NY Times reports “It was replete with tales of the illegal sales of body parts; of furtive negotiations in diners, parking lots and boiler rooms”.  In an article titled the “Jewish Launderette” the Israeli Ynet takes it further  providing the juicy details. “The FBI raided synagogues and arrested a few Rabbis. One of those who are held in custody is Rabbi Yitzchak Levi Rosenbaum of Brooklyn who is suspected of trading in body parts. He is charged with a decade-long activity selling kidneys, exploiting both ill and poor donators. He would convince a donator to sell his kidney for $10.000. Rabbi Levi Rosenbaum would then sell the kidney to the needy for $160.000.”</p>
<p>I may raise the inevitable question here, can you imagine your local priest or Imam trading in ‘body parts’? Can you think of a Muslim cleric or a pastor trying to buy your kidney or sell you one in a ‘parking lot’ or in a &#8216;diner’?</p>
<p>I do not think so.</p>
<p>Here is my suggestion to Liberal Democrat Shadow Home Secretary and everyone else who happens to be ‘concerned’ with the ‘rise of anti-Semitism’.</p>
<p>In the light of Israeli brutality, the conviction of gross swindler Madoff and the latest images of Rabbis being taken away by FBI agents, it is about time we stop discussing the rise of anti-Semitism and start to elaborate on the rise of Jewish Crime.<br />
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~There are live links in the original. The rise in anti-Semitism in the UK is being attributed to the recent Israeli offensive on Gaza, Operation Cast Lead.</p>
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		<title>By: B99</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/dangerous-untreated-west-bank-wastewater/#comment-50562</link>
		<dc:creator>B99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correction-  See the asterisks - *Israel* (not Egypt)

Jon – How astute of you to notice that I left 1973 out! But of course that was intentional. Egypt and Syria indeed started the ‘73 war – but it was not an attack on *Israel* but instead on Israeli-held positions in Israeli-OCCUPIED Egypt and Syria.

I stand by my accounting of the wars. And you KNOW Israel attacked Egypt outright in ‘56.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction-  See the asterisks &#8211; *Israel* (not Egypt)</p>
<p>Jon – How astute of you to notice that I left 1973 out! But of course that was intentional. Egypt and Syria indeed started the ‘73 war – but it was not an attack on *Israel* but instead on Israeli-held positions in Israeli-OCCUPIED Egypt and Syria.</p>
<p>I stand by my accounting of the wars. And you KNOW Israel attacked Egypt outright in ‘56.</p>
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		<title>By: B99</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/dangerous-untreated-west-bank-wastewater/#comment-50561</link>
		<dc:creator>B99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon - How astute of you to notice that I left 1973 out!  But of course that was intentional.  Egypt and Syria indeed started the &#039;73 war - but it was not an attack on Egypt but instead on Israeli-held positions in Israeli-OCCUPIED Egypt and Syria.

I stand by my accounting of the wars.  And you KNOW Israel attacked Egypt outright in &#039;56.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon &#8211; How astute of you to notice that I left 1973 out!  But of course that was intentional.  Egypt and Syria indeed started the &#8217;73 war &#8211; but it was not an attack on Egypt but instead on Israeli-held positions in Israeli-OCCUPIED Egypt and Syria.</p>
<p>I stand by my accounting of the wars.  And you KNOW Israel attacked Egypt outright in &#8217;56.</p>
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		<title>By: B99</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/dangerous-untreated-west-bank-wastewater/#comment-50560</link>
		<dc:creator>B99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon - No, the relationship between Revisionist Zionists and Mussolini&#039;s fascist Italy, between Rev Zions in Austria and that country&#039;s Nazis, and finally between the Rev Zions and Hitler&#039;s Germany - with which they were on such friendly terms they did business with them virtually up to the start of the War.

The positions the Revisionists took were a betrayal of Jews.  The Revisionists were ultranationalists of the same creed as the Nazis - it just never occurred to them that Hitler had other plans for them rather than just helping them to transport Jews to Palestine.  They woke up too late.  Not that Ben Gurion was much better. He preferred that Jewish children die rather than be sent anywhere other than Palestine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon &#8211; No, the relationship between Revisionist Zionists and Mussolini&#8217;s fascist Italy, between Rev Zions in Austria and that country&#8217;s Nazis, and finally between the Rev Zions and Hitler&#8217;s Germany &#8211; with which they were on such friendly terms they did business with them virtually up to the start of the War.</p>
<p>The positions the Revisionists took were a betrayal of Jews.  The Revisionists were ultranationalists of the same creed as the Nazis &#8211; it just never occurred to them that Hitler had other plans for them rather than just helping them to transport Jews to Palestine.  They woke up too late.  Not that Ben Gurion was much better. He preferred that Jewish children die rather than be sent anywhere other than Palestine.</p>
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		<title>By: jon s</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/dangerous-untreated-west-bank-wastewater/#comment-50557</link>
		<dc:creator>jon s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What &quot;relationship&quot;? What  are you talking about? The &quot;relationship&quot; between the murderers and a movement that was ineffective and helpless to prevent  the catastrophe? That just about sums it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What &#8220;relationship&#8221;? What  are you talking about? The &#8220;relationship&#8221; between the murderers and a movement that was ineffective and helpless to prevent  the catastrophe? That just about sums it up.</p>
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		<title>By: mary</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/dangerous-untreated-west-bank-wastewater/#comment-50552</link>
		<dc:creator>mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 18:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I notice that the issue of the relationships between the Zionists and the Nazis is bypassed/avoided/ignored.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I notice that the issue of the relationships between the Zionists and the Nazis is bypassed/avoided/ignored.</p>
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		<title>By: jon s</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/dangerous-untreated-west-bank-wastewater/#comment-50548</link>
		<dc:creator>jon s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 18:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>B99,
&quot;The Arabs never attacked Israel&quot; - who are you kidding?
I noticed that on your list you cleverly left out the Yom Kippur War of 1973, when Egypt and Syria launched a joint surprise attack. Even you couldn&#039;t claim otherwise.
The rest of your list reflects your typical one-sided , imbalanced approach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>B99,<br />
&#8220;The Arabs never attacked Israel&#8221; &#8211; who are you kidding?<br />
I noticed that on your list you cleverly left out the Yom Kippur War of 1973, when Egypt and Syria launched a joint surprise attack. Even you couldn&#8217;t claim otherwise.<br />
The rest of your list reflects your typical one-sided , imbalanced approach.</p>
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		<title>By: B99</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/dangerous-untreated-west-bank-wastewater/#comment-50532</link>
		<dc:creator>B99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 14:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the confirmation Mary.  Because I&#039;ve known this stuff so long I don&#039;t always know how I know it.  I&#039;m aware of the Schoenman book but I have yet to pick it up.  This will prompt me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the confirmation Mary.  Because I&#8217;ve known this stuff so long I don&#8217;t always know how I know it.  I&#8217;m aware of the Schoenman book but I have yet to pick it up.  This will prompt me.</p>
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		<title>By: mary</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/dangerous-untreated-west-bank-wastewater/#comment-50527</link>
		<dc:creator>mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 14:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am reinforcing what B99 wrote on 22nd July at 4pm about the connections of the Zionists to the Nazis.

This is from Ralph Schoenman&#039;s book  Hidden History of Zionism  
Chapter  6 - Zionism and the Jews
http://www.marxists.de/middleast/schoenman</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am reinforcing what B99 wrote on 22nd July at 4pm about the connections of the Zionists to the Nazis.</p>
<p>This is from Ralph Schoenman&#8217;s book  Hidden History of Zionism<br />
Chapter  6 &#8211; Zionism and the Jews<br />
<a href="http://www.marxists.de/middleast/schoenman" rel="nofollow">http://www.marxists.de/middleast/schoenman</a></p>
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		<title>By: Danny Ray</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/dangerous-untreated-west-bank-wastewater/#comment-50523</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 14:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW that can not be attributed to Uncle Joe There is no record of him actually saying that. it appeared in Pravda in 87</description>
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		<title>By: B99</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/dangerous-untreated-west-bank-wastewater/#comment-50521</link>
		<dc:creator>B99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 14:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah Danny Ray - that&#039;s a lot better than how I remembered it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah Danny Ray &#8211; that&#8217;s a lot better than how I remembered it.</p>
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		<title>By: Danny Ray</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/dangerous-untreated-west-bank-wastewater/#comment-50518</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 14:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>B99. It was  &quot;one death is a tragedy, a million is a statistic&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>B99. It was  &#8220;one death is a tragedy, a million is a statistic&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: B99</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/dangerous-untreated-west-bank-wastewater/#comment-50511</link>
		<dc:creator>B99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mulga - And I think it was Stalin who said &amp;  I&#039;ll paraphrase here:  A few deaths, it&#039;s murder, thousands of deaths, it&#039;s a statistic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mulga &#8211; And I think it was Stalin who said &amp;  I&#8217;ll paraphrase here:  A few deaths, it&#8217;s murder, thousands of deaths, it&#8217;s a statistic.</p>
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		<title>By: Mulga Mumblebrain</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/dangerous-untreated-west-bank-wastewater/#comment-50496</link>
		<dc:creator>Mulga Mumblebrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 09:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>B99, we all know how the Zionists operate. They are the masters and mistresses of the Big Lie. The prophet of the Big Lie, ironically enough, was Adolph Hitler (another nasty twist of history). He advised, in Mein Kampf I believe, that when telling a lie, for political advantage, it is best to tell a really big one. He believed that the average human was basically honest or saw honesty as something admirable (clearly not Zionists!)and that they would not believe that anyone could be so impudent, so audacious, as to tell such whoppers. As our Zionist betters are nothing if not audacious, impudent and arrogant. and as they believe that they are set above the rest of humanity (as their total contempt for the UN and international law makes plain)lying with gusto comes to them as naturally as breathing. I tender mebosa and jon s as evidence in support of this assertion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>B99, we all know how the Zionists operate. They are the masters and mistresses of the Big Lie. The prophet of the Big Lie, ironically enough, was Adolph Hitler (another nasty twist of history). He advised, in Mein Kampf I believe, that when telling a lie, for political advantage, it is best to tell a really big one. He believed that the average human was basically honest or saw honesty as something admirable (clearly not Zionists!)and that they would not believe that anyone could be so impudent, so audacious, as to tell such whoppers. As our Zionist betters are nothing if not audacious, impudent and arrogant. and as they believe that they are set above the rest of humanity (as their total contempt for the UN and international law makes plain)lying with gusto comes to them as naturally as breathing. I tender mebosa and jon s as evidence in support of this assertion.</p>
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		<title>By: mebosa ritchie</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/dangerous-untreated-west-bank-wastewater/#comment-50491</link>
		<dc:creator>mebosa ritchie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 06:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you care I can fill you in with a LOT more detail.

go on b99 fill us all in. it will give you something to do and you&#039;ll feel better getting it off your chest</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you care I can fill you in with a LOT more detail.</p>
<p>go on b99 fill us all in. it will give you something to do and you&#8217;ll feel better getting it off your chest</p>
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		<title>By: B99</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/dangerous-untreated-west-bank-wastewater/#comment-50480</link>
		<dc:creator>B99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 01:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mebosa - Constant attacks on Israel?  When was that?  Israel was so eager to attack its neighbors it started in the pre-state days with its ethnic cleansing campaign of 47 - 49, then continued small scale border attacks until its full-fledged attack on Egypt in 1956, then expanded its attack to all surrounding Arab states in 67, then conducted a War of Attrition on Egypt in 1970, then attacked Lebanon from 1979 to 1982 and continued its occupation of that country thereafter (while it had already occupied Egypt, Palestine and Syria), in the meantime it attacked Tunisia and Iraq, launched a full scale attacks and massacres on Lebanon again in 2006 and on Gaza ending earlier this year even as it continues to occupy the rest of Palestine, a large portion of Syria and a piece of Lebanon.  The Arabs have never attacked Israel.

I do hope Israel disappears - in the sense that it evolves into a state of all its citizens and gives up the racial oppression and Jews-only Apartheid laws. We can call it Palestein - what d&#039;ya say?  

I notice you don&#039;t refute my brief outline of a segment of Israeli/Palestine history.  If you care I can fill you in with a LOT more detail.

BTW - I&#039;m not a so-called &#039;self hating Jew.&#039;  I come from a line of people that have no history of oppression of Jews - and am not a Jew myself.  I just happened to grow up in NYC, the seat of Semitism and got the wise advice of an Egyptian to study the conflict.  Now there&#039;s nothing you can say that I can&#039;t refute with the truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mebosa &#8211; Constant attacks on Israel?  When was that?  Israel was so eager to attack its neighbors it started in the pre-state days with its ethnic cleansing campaign of 47 &#8211; 49, then continued small scale border attacks until its full-fledged attack on Egypt in 1956, then expanded its attack to all surrounding Arab states in 67, then conducted a War of Attrition on Egypt in 1970, then attacked Lebanon from 1979 to 1982 and continued its occupation of that country thereafter (while it had already occupied Egypt, Palestine and Syria), in the meantime it attacked Tunisia and Iraq, launched a full scale attacks and massacres on Lebanon again in 2006 and on Gaza ending earlier this year even as it continues to occupy the rest of Palestine, a large portion of Syria and a piece of Lebanon.  The Arabs have never attacked Israel.</p>
<p>I do hope Israel disappears &#8211; in the sense that it evolves into a state of all its citizens and gives up the racial oppression and Jews-only Apartheid laws. We can call it Palestein &#8211; what d&#8217;ya say?  </p>
<p>I notice you don&#8217;t refute my brief outline of a segment of Israeli/Palestine history.  If you care I can fill you in with a LOT more detail.</p>
<p>BTW &#8211; I&#8217;m not a so-called &#8216;self hating Jew.&#8217;  I come from a line of people that have no history of oppression of Jews &#8211; and am not a Jew myself.  I just happened to grow up in NYC, the seat of Semitism and got the wise advice of an Egyptian to study the conflict.  Now there&#8217;s nothing you can say that I can&#8217;t refute with the truth.</p>
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		<title>By: dan e</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/dangerous-untreated-west-bank-wastewater/#comment-50479</link>
		<dc:creator>dan e</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 00:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mulga,
Your description of conditions in Australia closely resembles what I&#039;ve observed here in Northern California. BTW thanks for your many perspicacious comments on this and other threads. 

Since finding myself publically labelled an &quot;anti-Semite&quot; back in the 1980&#039;s, I&#039;ve made it a personal project to try to understand the thinking and emotions of &quot;Israel-friendly&quot; Jews as well as those of &quot;anti-war&quot; US &quot;progressives&quot;, a number of whom have come around to expressing opposition to the worst Zionist &quot;excesses&quot; but have not been able to fully acknowledge the fundamental evil nature of the Zionist settler-colonial racist state.
I&#039;m struck by the fact that even many US Jews who are extremely critical of Israel and Zionism are unable to free themselves from feeling somehow closer emotionally to Zionist Jews than to &quot;outsiders&quot; who express anti-Zionist views. 
There was an extremely interesting article on the &quot;Mondoweiss&quot; blog the other day. I&#039;d like to recommend it to all DV readers, or better yet, to the editors?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mulga,<br />
Your description of conditions in Australia closely resembles what I&#8217;ve observed here in Northern California. BTW thanks for your many perspicacious comments on this and other threads. </p>
<p>Since finding myself publically labelled an &#8220;anti-Semite&#8221; back in the 1980&#8242;s, I&#8217;ve made it a personal project to try to understand the thinking and emotions of &#8220;Israel-friendly&#8221; Jews as well as those of &#8220;anti-war&#8221; US &#8220;progressives&#8221;, a number of whom have come around to expressing opposition to the worst Zionist &#8220;excesses&#8221; but have not been able to fully acknowledge the fundamental evil nature of the Zionist settler-colonial racist state.<br />
I&#8217;m struck by the fact that even many US Jews who are extremely critical of Israel and Zionism are unable to free themselves from feeling somehow closer emotionally to Zionist Jews than to &#8220;outsiders&#8221; who express anti-Zionist views.<br />
There was an extremely interesting article on the &#8220;Mondoweiss&#8221; blog the other day. I&#8217;d like to recommend it to all DV readers, or better yet, to the editors?</p>
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		<title>By: Mulga Mumblebrain</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/dangerous-untreated-west-bank-wastewater/#comment-50475</link>
		<dc:creator>Mulga Mumblebrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 23:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think mebosa illustrates nicely the manner in which evil re-inforces itself, through group hysteria, incessant brainwashing and the constant purging of those with a human conscience. The Jews in general, and the Israeli Jews in particular, have long been ostracising those members of their tribe who dare tell the truth concerning the Nakbah or Israel&#039;s subsequent barbarous behaviour. Through their unparalleled money power, and hence media and political power, they have also been relentlessly indoctrinating and brainwashing Western publics into their ethos of absolute hatred of Islam, Arabs and the Palestinians in particular. Here in Australia, the opinion pages have been biased to a laughable extent for years, but these days it is absolutely forbidden that the Palestinian point of view be presented. Absolutely. On the other hand the opinion pages are often polluted by the vilest Zionist propaganda, spreading not only long refuted untruths, but the foulest racist animadversions, all presented with that characteristic hair-raising arrogance we know so well.
 A veritable cavalcade of Moslem haters visits the country, nearly all sponsored by local Zionist groups. Hatemongering is a local Zionist cottage industry, pursued with fanatic determination. Without a question one of the foci of hatemongering in the world today is the Zionist Lobby, and it is particularly dangerous given its Messianic enthusiasm, its money power and its absolutist rejection of the humanity, and the human rights, of its victims. In a way Zionism outdoes Nazism in both its durability, and in its global reach, the manner in which it is succeeding in poisoning the relations between the West and the Moslem world, not to forget its leading role in anti-Chinese agitation, now rising to a fever pitch of bellicosity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think mebosa illustrates nicely the manner in which evil re-inforces itself, through group hysteria, incessant brainwashing and the constant purging of those with a human conscience. The Jews in general, and the Israeli Jews in particular, have long been ostracising those members of their tribe who dare tell the truth concerning the Nakbah or Israel&#8217;s subsequent barbarous behaviour. Through their unparalleled money power, and hence media and political power, they have also been relentlessly indoctrinating and brainwashing Western publics into their ethos of absolute hatred of Islam, Arabs and the Palestinians in particular. Here in Australia, the opinion pages have been biased to a laughable extent for years, but these days it is absolutely forbidden that the Palestinian point of view be presented. Absolutely. On the other hand the opinion pages are often polluted by the vilest Zionist propaganda, spreading not only long refuted untruths, but the foulest racist animadversions, all presented with that characteristic hair-raising arrogance we know so well.<br />
 A veritable cavalcade of Moslem haters visits the country, nearly all sponsored by local Zionist groups. Hatemongering is a local Zionist cottage industry, pursued with fanatic determination. Without a question one of the foci of hatemongering in the world today is the Zionist Lobby, and it is particularly dangerous given its Messianic enthusiasm, its money power and its absolutist rejection of the humanity, and the human rights, of its victims. In a way Zionism outdoes Nazism in both its durability, and in its global reach, the manner in which it is succeeding in poisoning the relations between the West and the Moslem world, not to forget its leading role in anti-Chinese agitation, now rising to a fever pitch of bellicosity.</p>
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