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	<title>Comments on: American Civilians Don&#8217;t Fall Under Geneva Convention</title>
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		<title>By: R Hilton</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/american-civilians-dont-fall-under-geneva-convention/#comment-51068</link>
		<dc:creator>R Hilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 04:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll grant that &quot;the system&quot; could stand a fix up, as is true of every
system that has been polluted by government influnces as ours has. 

However,
the ONLY way to achieve egalitarian healthcare (or any service) is to lower the quality down to a level that all can afford it. Before you say that&#039;s ok, think about how it&#039;s the &quot;upper end&quot; which raises the bar of quality for all.

Also think about the fact that even if the standard of care is lowered down to the lowest denominator, the &quot;haves&quot; will still have the ability to do better. That&#039;s why rich Canadians come to the U.S. when egalitarian isn&#039;t good enough for them.

PS: Do you encourage your soccer kid to strive for an
egalitarian outcome on the soccer field?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll grant that &#8220;the system&#8221; could stand a fix up, as is true of every<br />
system that has been polluted by government influnces as ours has. </p>
<p>However,<br />
the ONLY way to achieve egalitarian healthcare (or any service) is to lower the quality down to a level that all can afford it. Before you say that&#8217;s ok, think about how it&#8217;s the &#8220;upper end&#8221; which raises the bar of quality for all.</p>
<p>Also think about the fact that even if the standard of care is lowered down to the lowest denominator, the &#8220;haves&#8221; will still have the ability to do better. That&#8217;s why rich Canadians come to the U.S. when egalitarian isn&#8217;t good enough for them.</p>
<p>PS: Do you encourage your soccer kid to strive for an<br />
egalitarian outcome on the soccer field?</p>
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		<title>By: Not So Bemused An Observer</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/american-civilians-dont-fall-under-geneva-convention/#comment-50219</link>
		<dc:creator>Not So Bemused An Observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The debate over health care in Congress focusses on two things: maintaining profits and lowering costs.  Where does this contradiction leave us?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The debate over health care in Congress focusses on two things: maintaining profits and lowering costs.  Where does this contradiction leave us?</p>
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		<title>By: Hue Longer</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/american-civilians-dont-fall-under-geneva-convention/#comment-50047</link>
		<dc:creator>Hue Longer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 07:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Obama admin is doing everything it can to NOT do anything about it...it&#039;s going to be difficult but even the elitist FDR had to give under obvious pressure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Obama admin is doing everything it can to NOT do anything about it&#8230;it&#8217;s going to be difficult but even the elitist FDR had to give under obvious pressure.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/american-civilians-dont-fall-under-geneva-convention/#comment-50044</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 05:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gee...what if governments would let people make enough money after paying taxes to pay for their own health, education, etc.?  I know, I know, some would not live responsible lives and as we all know there is big money for the government in the health business....besides it&#039;s just a great way of keeping people under control.....you know like in communist countries where they sent you for mental treatment or in socialist countires where they tell you your to old....go home and die.
Thas is what is coming to America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee&#8230;what if governments would let people make enough money after paying taxes to pay for their own health, education, etc.?  I know, I know, some would not live responsible lives and as we all know there is big money for the government in the health business&#8230;.besides it&#8217;s just a great way of keeping people under control&#8230;..you know like in communist countries where they sent you for mental treatment or in socialist countires where they tell you your to old&#8230;.go home and die.<br />
Thas is what is coming to America.</p>
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		<title>By: Annie</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/american-civilians-dont-fall-under-geneva-convention/#comment-49968</link>
		<dc:creator>Annie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 07:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very good article.  Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good article.  Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/american-civilians-dont-fall-under-geneva-convention/#comment-49961</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 02:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article.  But sadly, there are tons of stories of people being treated like low-class BY their insurance companies.  You can hate Michael Moore and Sicko, but when he asked people to email in their insurance horror stories to him, he got 25,000 emails in one week.

Real reform= single payer.  We need to stop being selfish looking only after ourselves, and start being American by helping each other out in times of need, regardless of your income, race, whatever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article.  But sadly, there are tons of stories of people being treated like low-class BY their insurance companies.  You can hate Michael Moore and Sicko, but when he asked people to email in their insurance horror stories to him, he got 25,000 emails in one week.</p>
<p>Real reform= single payer.  We need to stop being selfish looking only after ourselves, and start being American by helping each other out in times of need, regardless of your income, race, whatever.</p>
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		<title>By: Geo</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/american-civilians-dont-fall-under-geneva-convention/#comment-49951</link>
		<dc:creator>Geo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 23:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What if hundreds of uninsured sick or injured Americans began trekking tot he gates of the nearest army base demanding coverage under the Geneva convention?

Would be an interesting protest and great TV media attention getter.

Be pretty hard PR wise for the local military base to turn away masses of  local citizens in their neighborhoods who actual support the base&#039;s existence with tax dollars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What if hundreds of uninsured sick or injured Americans began trekking tot he gates of the nearest army base demanding coverage under the Geneva convention?</p>
<p>Would be an interesting protest and great TV media attention getter.</p>
<p>Be pretty hard PR wise for the local military base to turn away masses of  local citizens in their neighborhoods who actual support the base&#8217;s existence with tax dollars.</p>
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		<title>By: GeorgeWatts</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/american-civilians-dont-fall-under-geneva-convention/#comment-49928</link>
		<dc:creator>GeorgeWatts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only problem is that the Geneva Conventions didn&#039;t exist at the time of D-
Day.  Some people just do the right thing without being told.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only problem is that the Geneva Conventions didn&#8217;t exist at the time of D-<br />
Day.  Some people just do the right thing without being told.</p>
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		<title>By: rosemarie jackowski</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/american-civilians-dont-fall-under-geneva-convention/#comment-49927</link>
		<dc:creator>rosemarie jackowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil...the government in collusion with the insurance companies are responsible for 18,000 US deaths every year. It seems that &#039;they&#039; have declared war on us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil&#8230;the government in collusion with the insurance companies are responsible for 18,000 US deaths every year. It seems that &#8216;they&#8217; have declared war on us.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/american-civilians-dont-fall-under-geneva-convention/#comment-49924</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;the Obama administration is trying to do something about [the dysfunctional healthcare system] as you read these words.&lt;/i&gt;

Too bad that that &quot;something&quot; is to keep the unjust status quo intact, while trying to kill any chance at reform.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>the Obama administration is trying to do something about [the dysfunctional healthcare system] as you read these words.</i></p>
<p>Too bad that that &#8220;something&#8221; is to keep the unjust status quo intact, while trying to kill any chance at reform.</p>
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		<title>By: rosemarie jackowski</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/american-civilians-dont-fall-under-geneva-convention/#comment-49905</link>
		<dc:creator>rosemarie jackowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 14:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting article. 
If  US citizens declare war on the US government, they might be covered by the Geneva Convention. Is it time for the Revolution to start - on second thought, the US government has not conformed to international law for a long time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting article.<br />
If  US citizens declare war on the US government, they might be covered by the Geneva Convention. Is it time for the Revolution to start &#8211; on second thought, the US government has not conformed to international law for a long time.</p>
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