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		<title>By: Synic3</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/06/worker-rights-no-balls-no-gains/#comment-48854</link>
		<dc:creator>Synic3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:25:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[lichen,

You said  it right,  I will not waste any more time with the likes of you. Probably you are a corporate agent, who under the guise of protecting illigal immigrants and defending the so called &quot;subclass&quot;,  are advocating
a policy, that will supply the coporate class with an endless supply of cheap and intimidated labor, and so will help to undermine labor unions and the labor bargaining position in this country and cosequently the working/middle class in this country.  
You didn&#039;t answer a single point of what I wrote.
You sound like a broken record.  Who gave you your script??!!
Did you really read what Brittainucus wrote and thought about  it??]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lichen,</p>
<p>You said  it right,  I will not waste any more time with the likes of you. Probably you are a corporate agent, who under the guise of protecting illigal immigrants and defending the so called &#8220;subclass&#8221;,  are advocating<br />
a policy, that will supply the coporate class with an endless supply of cheap and intimidated labor, and so will help to undermine labor unions and the labor bargaining position in this country and cosequently the working/middle class in this country.<br />
You didn&#8217;t answer a single point of what I wrote.<br />
You sound like a broken record.  Who gave you your script??!!<br />
Did you really read what Brittainucus wrote and thought about  it??</p>
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		<title>By: lichen</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/06/worker-rights-no-balls-no-gains/#comment-48835</link>
		<dc:creator>lichen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 00:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Synic, you are already wasting time, and wasting it with useless reactionary sentiments as opposed to supporting real solutions and the real problems--the lack of living wage jobs with good benefits for all in this country; in fact you&#039;ve said nothing even in support of labor except for attacking a subclass of people; which is unproductive and stupid.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Synic, you are already wasting time, and wasting it with useless reactionary sentiments as opposed to supporting real solutions and the real problems&#8211;the lack of living wage jobs with good benefits for all in this country; in fact you&#8217;ve said nothing even in support of labor except for attacking a subclass of people; which is unproductive and stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: Synic3</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/06/worker-rights-no-balls-no-gains/#comment-48817</link>
		<dc:creator>Synic3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 19:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don,

I agree with you 100%  that the deterioration of the environment, coupled with global warming is a very serious problem facing the world,
and a new approach is urgently needed.
With that said,  that is not a valid excuse to give the already existing jobs to illigal  immigrants and let them replace  working people here.
What good is that will do to the environment??!!
Until the new approach is found and implemented, do not give the
existing  and future  jobs to illigals,  and throw  working  people  here out of work.!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don,</p>
<p>I agree with you 100%  that the deterioration of the environment, coupled with global warming is a very serious problem facing the world,<br />
and a new approach is urgently needed.<br />
With that said,  that is not a valid excuse to give the already existing jobs to illigal  immigrants and let them replace  working people here.<br />
What good is that will do to the environment??!!<br />
Until the new approach is found and implemented, do not give the<br />
existing  and future  jobs to illigals,  and throw  working  people  here out of work.!!</p>
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		<title>By: Melissa</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/06/worker-rights-no-balls-no-gains/#comment-48807</link>
		<dc:creator>Melissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Exactly, Don.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly, Don.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/06/worker-rights-no-balls-no-gains/#comment-48796</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 12:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The people I work with in the fields who are from the South are hard working take good care of there kind&#039;s and have disciplined minds.  A side effect of working hard.  I guess I could write a million words here but will leave it at that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The people I work with in the fields who are from the South are hard working take good care of there kind&#8217;s and have disciplined minds.  A side effect of working hard.  I guess I could write a million words here but will leave it at that.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/06/worker-rights-no-balls-no-gains/#comment-48794</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 11:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last week, Delhi’s chief minister Sheila Dikshit admitted the Yumuna River, once the city’s life source, is so polluted with raw sewerage that it will be at least eight years before it can be revived. Its ‘water’ is black turning blue, but shimmers because of the vast number of dumped plastic bags. Its foul stench makes breathing difficult for passers-by.
The key to cleaning it lies in moving shack-dwellers from their illegal semi-permanent jugghi villages on the outskirts of the city who pour sewerage and waste into the river, but their members have become a powerful vote bank for corrupt politicians.  telegraph

   A little secret the same thing is happening in the States to our rivers crap into the rivers and all done in the name of growth.  Then of course CO 2 that you can&#039;t see and the reason we see these minor problems in India and now starting in China and the States. Corrupt politicians seems to be a Worldwide thing.   Its ‘water’ is black turning blue, but shimmers because of the vast number of dumped plastic bags. Its foul stench makes breathing difficult for passers-by.  Make things as simple as possible, but not simpler  Without that thinking it will be simple alright.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last week, Delhi’s chief minister Sheila Dikshit admitted the Yumuna River, once the city’s life source, is so polluted with raw sewerage that it will be at least eight years before it can be revived. Its ‘water’ is black turning blue, but shimmers because of the vast number of dumped plastic bags. Its foul stench makes breathing difficult for passers-by.<br />
The key to cleaning it lies in moving shack-dwellers from their illegal semi-permanent jugghi villages on the outskirts of the city who pour sewerage and waste into the river, but their members have become a powerful vote bank for corrupt politicians.  telegraph</p>
<p>   A little secret the same thing is happening in the States to our rivers crap into the rivers and all done in the name of growth.  Then of course CO 2 that you can&#8217;t see and the reason we see these minor problems in India and now starting in China and the States. Corrupt politicians seems to be a Worldwide thing.   Its ‘water’ is black turning blue, but shimmers because of the vast number of dumped plastic bags. Its foul stench makes breathing difficult for passers-by.  Make things as simple as possible, but not simpler  Without that thinking it will be simple alright.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/06/worker-rights-no-balls-no-gains/#comment-48793</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 11:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/deannelson/100001297/praying-for-rain-in-the-cauldron-of-climate-change/

Syn3 read this and what is now happening in India China is not far behind.  In the States the Southwest first then the mid west.  Good paying jobs is probably the wrong way to look at this.  More like save our ass.  This is the real deal and tuff day&#039;s ahead.  Read that web page and the man&#039;s thinking it put&#039;s it right there.  There is still time and happy horseshit is not the answer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/deannelson/100001297/praying-for-rain-in-the-cauldron-of-climate-change/" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/deannelson/100001297/praying-for-rain-in-the-cauldron-of-climate-change/</a></p>
<p>Syn3 read this and what is now happening in India China is not far behind.  In the States the Southwest first then the mid west.  Good paying jobs is probably the wrong way to look at this.  More like save our ass.  This is the real deal and tuff day&#8217;s ahead.  Read that web page and the man&#8217;s thinking it put&#8217;s it right there.  There is still time and happy horseshit is not the answer.</p>
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		<title>By: Synic3</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/06/worker-rights-no-balls-no-gains/#comment-48792</link>
		<dc:creator>Synic3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 11:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[lichen,

If you are failing to see,  that increasing the supply of workers to a 
diminishing supply of jobs, is increasing the problems of the working people  then I don&#039;t know what else to tell you.!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lichen,</p>
<p>If you are failing to see,  that increasing the supply of workers to a<br />
diminishing supply of jobs, is increasing the problems of the working people  then I don&#8217;t know what else to tell you.!!</p>
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		<title>By: Synic3</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/06/worker-rights-no-balls-no-gains/#comment-48790</link>
		<dc:creator>Synic3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 11:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[lichen,

I didn&#039;t say that all the problems of the average folks here in the US  is
attributed to illegal immigration,  but illigal immigration contribute
big part to it.
Of course off-shoring of jobs and the so called free trade,  and add to that the spread of automation contribute a bigger part toward it.
You ask me , what is your ideas about this and about that.??!! Well the
subject of the plight of the middle and working classes in this country
have been discussed here and all over,  so do you want to copy and  paste and waste your and my time?
If you are failing to



waste your time and my time!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lichen,</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t say that all the problems of the average folks here in the US  is<br />
attributed to illegal immigration,  but illigal immigration contribute<br />
big part to it.<br />
Of course off-shoring of jobs and the so called free trade,  and add to that the spread of automation contribute a bigger part toward it.<br />
You ask me , what is your ideas about this and about that.??!! Well the<br />
subject of the plight of the middle and working classes in this country<br />
have been discussed here and all over,  so do you want to copy and  paste and waste your and my time?<br />
If you are failing to</p>
<p>waste your time and my time!!</p>
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		<title>By: Synic3</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/06/worker-rights-no-balls-no-gains/#comment-48791</link>
		<dc:creator>Synic3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 11:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[lichen,

I didn&#039;t say that all the problems of the average folks here in the US  is
attributed to illegal immigration,  but illigal immigration contribute
big part to it.
Of course off-shoring of jobs and the so called free trade,  and add to that the spread of automation contribute a bigger part toward it.
You ask me , what is your ideas about this and about that.??!! Well the
subject of the plight of the middle and working classes in this country
have been discussed here and all over,  so do you want to copy and  paste and waste your and my time?
If you are failing to



waste your time and my time!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lichen,</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t say that all the problems of the average folks here in the US  is<br />
attributed to illegal immigration,  but illigal immigration contribute<br />
big part to it.<br />
Of course off-shoring of jobs and the so called free trade,  and add to that the spread of automation contribute a bigger part toward it.<br />
You ask me , what is your ideas about this and about that.??!! Well the<br />
subject of the plight of the middle and working classes in this country<br />
have been discussed here and all over,  so do you want to copy and  paste and waste your and my time?<br />
If you are failing to</p>
<p>waste your time and my time!!</p>
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		<title>By: lichen</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/06/worker-rights-no-balls-no-gains/#comment-48773</link>
		<dc:creator>lichen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 03:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You haven&#039;t answered my question; so where is your philosophy, where is your campaign, your shouting for everyone in this country to have a good living wage job with benefits inside a democratic workplace?  Getting rid of undocumented people will not give you that (there will still be a lack of industry in this country; still mass unemployment, still bad working conditions, still outsourcing, still trash in place of jobs) ; and in fact because you won&#039;t get rid of all undocumented people, the statements can only lead to racial tensions and hate.  But the original subject here was the southwest, not illinois or iowa and the pointless, ugly murder of animals.  

And actually, yes, your invective towards &quot;illegals&quot; is racist, and remains so whether you claim, laughably that they &quot;hurt black people first.&quot;  So where are your suggestions for making the US African American community invulnerable to supposed encroachment by our friends from central/south america?  You can consider yourself however you please, but this lou dobbs nonsense that undocumented immigration is the cause of anything (as opposed to nafta, free market policies, long-standing attacks on labor, and the lack of living wage jobs/full employment, as I have said) is ridiculous and not constructive, built on petty observations without context.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You haven&#8217;t answered my question; so where is your philosophy, where is your campaign, your shouting for everyone in this country to have a good living wage job with benefits inside a democratic workplace?  Getting rid of undocumented people will not give you that (there will still be a lack of industry in this country; still mass unemployment, still bad working conditions, still outsourcing, still trash in place of jobs) ; and in fact because you won&#8217;t get rid of all undocumented people, the statements can only lead to racial tensions and hate.  But the original subject here was the southwest, not illinois or iowa and the pointless, ugly murder of animals.  </p>
<p>And actually, yes, your invective towards &#8220;illegals&#8221; is racist, and remains so whether you claim, laughably that they &#8220;hurt black people first.&#8221;  So where are your suggestions for making the US African American community invulnerable to supposed encroachment by our friends from central/south america?  You can consider yourself however you please, but this lou dobbs nonsense that undocumented immigration is the cause of anything (as opposed to nafta, free market policies, long-standing attacks on labor, and the lack of living wage jobs/full employment, as I have said) is ridiculous and not constructive, built on petty observations without context.</p>
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		<title>By: Synic3</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/06/worker-rights-no-balls-no-gains/#comment-48771</link>
		<dc:creator>Synic3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 02:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To Don Hawkens,

It is not farm work I am talking about, but I am talking about good paying jobs in construction.

To lichen,

So, when all the meat packing plants in Ilinois and Iowa are almost fully staffed by illegal immigrants,  you are calling that &quot; ALWAYS moved up and down between “mexico” and “us”&quot;.
When I object to that you accuse me of  waging a racist battle!!   For your own knowledge, the first victims of illegal immigration  are the black people.
I consider myself left of center, and I am baffled why people like you,
progressives or leftists or whatever, who are supposed to be the defenders of the working class against the exploitation and greed of the corporate class , are encouraging a policy that is deterimental to the working  people of this country, and is helping supplying the corporate class by an endless supply by cheap and intimidated labor.
Am I a racist if I want my fellow Americans  to have jobs with living wages, decent and safe working conditions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Don Hawkens,</p>
<p>It is not farm work I am talking about, but I am talking about good paying jobs in construction.</p>
<p>To lichen,</p>
<p>So, when all the meat packing plants in Ilinois and Iowa are almost fully staffed by illegal immigrants,  you are calling that &#8221; ALWAYS moved up and down between “mexico” and “us”&#8221;.<br />
When I object to that you accuse me of  waging a racist battle!!   For your own knowledge, the first victims of illegal immigration  are the black people.<br />
I consider myself left of center, and I am baffled why people like you,<br />
progressives or leftists or whatever, who are supposed to be the defenders of the working class against the exploitation and greed of the corporate class , are encouraging a policy that is deterimental to the working  people of this country, and is helping supplying the corporate class by an endless supply by cheap and intimidated labor.<br />
Am I a racist if I want my fellow Americans  to have jobs with living wages, decent and safe working conditions.</p>
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		<title>By: lichen</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/06/worker-rights-no-balls-no-gains/#comment-48766</link>
		<dc:creator>lichen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 00:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you want full employment with living wages at democratic cooperatives for all, then campaign for that; waging a racist battle against undocumented workers who are not a flood but ALWAYS moved up and down between &quot;mexico&quot; and &quot;us&quot; (far before that area was two seperate countries) does not take you to that, and it is petty to fight amongst your fellow people for a few stupid nafta-forged scraps.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want full employment with living wages at democratic cooperatives for all, then campaign for that; waging a racist battle against undocumented workers who are not a flood but ALWAYS moved up and down between &#8220;mexico&#8221; and &#8220;us&#8221; (far before that area was two seperate countries) does not take you to that, and it is petty to fight amongst your fellow people for a few stupid nafta-forged scraps.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/06/worker-rights-no-balls-no-gains/#comment-48764</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 23:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You do mean NOW a lot of unemployed texans will be very glad to work in such jobs.  Where I live farm country many people working side by side with people from Mexico Central America and the US.  It&#039;s hard hot work because at 61 I still do it.  The first time I worked in the fields was when I was eighteen the only guy in the field born in the US.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You do mean NOW a lot of unemployed texans will be very glad to work in such jobs.  Where I live farm country many people working side by side with people from Mexico Central America and the US.  It&#8217;s hard hot work because at 61 I still do it.  The first time I worked in the fields was when I was eighteen the only guy in the field born in the US.</p>
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		<title>By: Synic3</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/06/worker-rights-no-balls-no-gains/#comment-48763</link>
		<dc:creator>Synic3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 23:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Michael Dawson wrote:
&quot;Don, you’re responding to a guy who doesn’t have the brainpower, even after reading Joe Bageant, to think his way past the blame-the-immigrants ruse.&quot;
______________________________________________________

Michael,

If you think that flooding the labor market with illegal immigrants  has no effect on the wages and benefits and job opportunities  for US legal residents,  then I don&#039;t know what planet you  are living in.
I live in Texas,  and  it seems that always in  any construction site accident,  the victim is  always illegal immigrant ,  while a lot of unemployed texans will be very glad to work in such jobs.
Also,  you don&#039;t to distinguish between illegal immigrants and legal
immigrants and you just call all of them immigrants which is misleading.
Illigal immigration is encouraged by the ruling corporate class because it  provides an endless supply of cheap and intimidated labor that don&#039;t ask for much and get very little.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael Dawson wrote:<br />
&#8220;Don, you’re responding to a guy who doesn’t have the brainpower, even after reading Joe Bageant, to think his way past the blame-the-immigrants ruse.&#8221;<br />
______________________________________________________</p>
<p>Michael,</p>
<p>If you think that flooding the labor market with illegal immigrants  has no effect on the wages and benefits and job opportunities  for US legal residents,  then I don&#8217;t know what planet you  are living in.<br />
I live in Texas,  and  it seems that always in  any construction site accident,  the victim is  always illegal immigrant ,  while a lot of unemployed texans will be very glad to work in such jobs.<br />
Also,  you don&#8217;t to distinguish between illegal immigrants and legal<br />
immigrants and you just call all of them immigrants which is misleading.<br />
Illigal immigration is encouraged by the ruling corporate class because it  provides an endless supply of cheap and intimidated labor that don&#8217;t ask for much and get very little.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Dawson</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/06/worker-rights-no-balls-no-gains/#comment-48735</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Dawson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 17:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don, you&#039;re responding to a guy who doesn&#039;t have the brainpower, even after reading Joe Bageant, to think his way past the blame-the-immigrants ruse.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don, you&#8217;re responding to a guy who doesn&#8217;t have the brainpower, even after reading Joe Bageant, to think his way past the blame-the-immigrants ruse.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/06/worker-rights-no-balls-no-gains/#comment-48731</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 17:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brittancus I tried that once to call a policy maker and got some smart ass person  who seemed busy.  I  don&#039;t think it works.  Maybe some of them read DV just a thought.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brittancus I tried that once to call a policy maker and got some smart ass person  who seemed busy.  I  don&#8217;t think it works.  Maybe some of them read DV just a thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Brittancus</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/06/worker-rights-no-balls-no-gains/#comment-48729</link>
		<dc:creator>Brittancus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 16:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ONLY THE DECISION OF EVERY AMERICAN AND LEGAL RESIDENT, BY CONTACTING YOUR SENATOR OR REPRESENTATIVE WILL PUT A STOP TO AN 8th AMNESTY!

The 1986 Simpson/Mazzoli Immigration bill is--NOT BROKEN--is just has never been enforced. Sen.Ted Kennedy a liberal, would never have voted, assisted in drafting it 23 years ago, if it was broken?  NO! It&#039;s just another excuse to push through another path to citizenship--or AMNESTY.  Obama promised open door sessions, but the Democrat leadership allowed no press or even  Republicans to enter immigration reform discussion. President Obama promised transparency when it comes to all  major issues and  illegal immigration invasion is certainly a flash-point of major issues facing the taxpayer. It&#039;s completely beyond any comprehension that Washington, would look for votes to pass this so-called immigration reform, when there are 11 percent jobless Americans and legal residents in our nation?

Sen Chuck Schumer and the usual conspirators are trying to blind-side the American people with a new business illegal immigration extraction tool. Same as all the creations,  to pass another AMNESTY. Already his Sen. friend Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Janet Napolitano have crippled the American Worker, by denying E-Verify in the earlier Stimulus bill. That for a start would have made sure the estimated 300.000 illegal laborers, would not have been hired for infrastructure and construction jobs. Now we are supposed to trust them with their so-called path to citizenship. It&#039;s AMNESTY by any other word! It means the US worker gets the-rough-end-of-the pineapple again by our elected officials. 1. How do the hope to process 12 to 20 plus foreign nationals? ALL AT ONCE? What a laugh? 2. Probably the biggest enigma is OVERPOPULATION?

Once the process is rolling, do you think that the people waiting on the other side of the fence are going to go home. That&#039;s the biggest joke on the American worker, the US people?  Then what about absolutely insaneness of family unification? Millions more will enter the pipeline? They would eventually have to call  our troops back from Germany, Japan  and South  Korea--TO HOLD BACK THE STAMPEDE.  We cannot and should not  enter into any more AMNESTIES, as it will cause devastation on our open lands.

Urban sprawl with all its ugly ramifications of clogged traffic, unavailability of potable water and a failing infrastructure and even worse--chronic poverty than we already have in the inner cities?  We cannot afford the costs that have been estimated to be around $2.5 trillion dollars, just to process whoever is here already--according to the Heritage Foundation. If these people want to come here, then they should return first, to their homelands and arrange all the processing from the other-side of our make-believe sealed border?  We are already supporting undesirables in our federal and state prison system that should be addressed.   Then their is the annual costs of  babies born here to illegal immigrant woman.  Only children of at least one citizen or naturalized American should be allowed instant citizenship, not an infant born of any illegal alien female? Immediately they can access every one of the 60 means tested benefits, for low income citizens.

Have you any idea of the price taxpayers will pay, for the hundreds of thousands of family members who can enter once sponsored under the family unification law? All the impoverished sick will descend on hospitals for dialysis and other acute illnesses, that will barrel the federal government into a financial crisis.

Only a very few of these people already here have a high school diploma, speak English or even understand our culture. The majority come here to work, not assimilate in the mainstream America like the immigrants of yesteryear. Billions of dollars are transfered to foreign banks each year, not into the nations treasuries to circulate throughout the population?

If our politicians just worked for the AMERICAN PEOPLE FOR A CHANGE and ignored the special interest lobby, they could enforce E-Verify on a national scale. Not voluntary but as a permanent application,  for every worker new and longterm hires. Without much money being spent for deportation, the E-Verify tool would overtime start to extract illegal labor by ATTRITION! Illegal families would pack their possessions and leaving our country, making room in the workplace. Because E-Verify has a near a hundred percent success rate and working, the pariah employers who hire cheap labor are trying to kill it with the help of their associates in Washington. No illegal alien worker would show his face at the Social Security office, where rehiring issues could be resolved. Public spirited US workers could inform a well funded ICE and inform of illegal activity in their work location,  for all those who seem to have something to hide.

AS illegal immigration is such a far reaching issue and contains so many traumatic relevant problems that effects all of us, there just isn&#039;t enough room to itemize everything that could be an irreversible impact on our daily lives?  Read the answers at some of these websites  including  NUMBERSUSA,  JUDICIAL WATCH,  CAPSWEB,  UNIPAC, AMERICANPATROL. and of course contacting your Senator and Congressman]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ONLY THE DECISION OF EVERY AMERICAN AND LEGAL RESIDENT, BY CONTACTING YOUR SENATOR OR REPRESENTATIVE WILL PUT A STOP TO AN 8th AMNESTY!</p>
<p>The 1986 Simpson/Mazzoli Immigration bill is&#8211;NOT BROKEN&#8211;is just has never been enforced. Sen.Ted Kennedy a liberal, would never have voted, assisted in drafting it 23 years ago, if it was broken?  NO! It&#8217;s just another excuse to push through another path to citizenship&#8211;or AMNESTY.  Obama promised open door sessions, but the Democrat leadership allowed no press or even  Republicans to enter immigration reform discussion. President Obama promised transparency when it comes to all  major issues and  illegal immigration invasion is certainly a flash-point of major issues facing the taxpayer. It&#8217;s completely beyond any comprehension that Washington, would look for votes to pass this so-called immigration reform, when there are 11 percent jobless Americans and legal residents in our nation?</p>
<p>Sen Chuck Schumer and the usual conspirators are trying to blind-side the American people with a new business illegal immigration extraction tool. Same as all the creations,  to pass another AMNESTY. Already his Sen. friend Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Janet Napolitano have crippled the American Worker, by denying E-Verify in the earlier Stimulus bill. That for a start would have made sure the estimated 300.000 illegal laborers, would not have been hired for infrastructure and construction jobs. Now we are supposed to trust them with their so-called path to citizenship. It&#8217;s AMNESTY by any other word! It means the US worker gets the-rough-end-of-the pineapple again by our elected officials. 1. How do the hope to process 12 to 20 plus foreign nationals? ALL AT ONCE? What a laugh? 2. Probably the biggest enigma is OVERPOPULATION?</p>
<p>Once the process is rolling, do you think that the people waiting on the other side of the fence are going to go home. That&#8217;s the biggest joke on the American worker, the US people?  Then what about absolutely insaneness of family unification? Millions more will enter the pipeline? They would eventually have to call  our troops back from Germany, Japan  and South  Korea&#8211;TO HOLD BACK THE STAMPEDE.  We cannot and should not  enter into any more AMNESTIES, as it will cause devastation on our open lands.</p>
<p>Urban sprawl with all its ugly ramifications of clogged traffic, unavailability of potable water and a failing infrastructure and even worse&#8211;chronic poverty than we already have in the inner cities?  We cannot afford the costs that have been estimated to be around $2.5 trillion dollars, just to process whoever is here already&#8211;according to the Heritage Foundation. If these people want to come here, then they should return first, to their homelands and arrange all the processing from the other-side of our make-believe sealed border?  We are already supporting undesirables in our federal and state prison system that should be addressed.   Then their is the annual costs of  babies born here to illegal immigrant woman.  Only children of at least one citizen or naturalized American should be allowed instant citizenship, not an infant born of any illegal alien female? Immediately they can access every one of the 60 means tested benefits, for low income citizens.</p>
<p>Have you any idea of the price taxpayers will pay, for the hundreds of thousands of family members who can enter once sponsored under the family unification law? All the impoverished sick will descend on hospitals for dialysis and other acute illnesses, that will barrel the federal government into a financial crisis.</p>
<p>Only a very few of these people already here have a high school diploma, speak English or even understand our culture. The majority come here to work, not assimilate in the mainstream America like the immigrants of yesteryear. Billions of dollars are transfered to foreign banks each year, not into the nations treasuries to circulate throughout the population?</p>
<p>If our politicians just worked for the AMERICAN PEOPLE FOR A CHANGE and ignored the special interest lobby, they could enforce E-Verify on a national scale. Not voluntary but as a permanent application,  for every worker new and longterm hires. Without much money being spent for deportation, the E-Verify tool would overtime start to extract illegal labor by ATTRITION! Illegal families would pack their possessions and leaving our country, making room in the workplace. Because E-Verify has a near a hundred percent success rate and working, the pariah employers who hire cheap labor are trying to kill it with the help of their associates in Washington. No illegal alien worker would show his face at the Social Security office, where rehiring issues could be resolved. Public spirited US workers could inform a well funded ICE and inform of illegal activity in their work location,  for all those who seem to have something to hide.</p>
<p>AS illegal immigration is such a far reaching issue and contains so many traumatic relevant problems that effects all of us, there just isn&#8217;t enough room to itemize everything that could be an irreversible impact on our daily lives?  Read the answers at some of these websites  including  NUMBERSUSA,  JUDICIAL WATCH,  CAPSWEB,  UNIPAC, AMERICANPATROL. and of course contacting your Senator and Congressman</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/06/worker-rights-no-balls-no-gains/#comment-48728</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 16:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Joe it looks like some are way ahead of this little game.  Texas or some are thinking about leaving the Union.  Now with the climate change bill a joke we could hear more of that although it will problem not pass in the Senate the forth graders.  On Fox news channel remember the tea party yes they are out front on this one.  No more tax&#039;s for the little people, right.  There seems to be a number of agendas all working in different directions.  Remember the Earth is also moving in one direction. I wonder will all these different directions meet?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe it looks like some are way ahead of this little game.  Texas or some are thinking about leaving the Union.  Now with the climate change bill a joke we could hear more of that although it will problem not pass in the Senate the forth graders.  On Fox news channel remember the tea party yes they are out front on this one.  No more tax&#8217;s for the little people, right.  There seems to be a number of agendas all working in different directions.  Remember the Earth is also moving in one direction. I wonder will all these different directions meet?</p>
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