Comments on: What Happened To Air France Flight 447? http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/06/what-happened-to-air-france-flight-447/ a radical newsletter in the struggle for peace and social justice Sun, 22 Nov 2009 15:19:36 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Sandy http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/06/what-happened-to-air-france-flight-447/#comment-50722 Sandy Sun, 26 Jul 2009 18:30:57 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=8499#comment-50722 Just a thought, with the warming of airflow of air at near 500MPH the warming effects of air friction on the pitotubes whould be plus 100 degrees F. This probably not get the aircraft above freezeing. This couldrequire a Tittanic effert.. Just a thought, with the warming of airflow of air at near 500MPH the warming effects of air friction on the pitotubes whould be plus 100 degrees F. This probably not get the aircraft above freezeing. This couldrequire a Tittanic effert..

]]> By: Al http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/06/what-happened-to-air-france-flight-447/#comment-48767 Al Sun, 28 Jun 2009 01:10:38 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=8499#comment-48767 This is fucking bullshit. Also check out: Raytheon and the murders of: John F. Kennedy JR - Jul 16 1999 Mel Carnahan - Oct 17 2000 Paul Wellstone - Oct 25 2002 Michael Connell - Dec 19 2008 Beverly Eckert - Feb 12 2009 Killing them all in plane crashes the same exact way. These are big time agents for real change that are being killed. It's like a whitewashed 60's. The difference being that in the 60's at least they admitted that the people were assassinated JFK, RFK MLK, etc..... true the lone gunman bs is crap but at least they acknowledged a killer. In these the directed energy war against us they blame it all on the weather and mother nature. Funny thing is when we can control microwaves we are mothernature. This is fucking bullshit.
Also check out:
Raytheon and the murders of:
John F. Kennedy JR – Jul 16 1999
Mel Carnahan – Oct 17 2000
Paul Wellstone – Oct 25 2002
Michael Connell – Dec 19 2008
Beverly Eckert – Feb 12 2009

Killing them all in plane crashes the same exact way. These are big time agents for real change that are being killed. It’s like a whitewashed 60’s.
The difference being that in the 60’s at least they admitted that the people were assassinated JFK, RFK MLK, etc….. true the lone gunman bs is crap but at least they acknowledged a killer. In these the directed energy war against us they blame it all on the weather and mother nature. Funny thing is when we can control microwaves we are mothernature.

]]> By: mary http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/06/what-happened-to-air-france-flight-447/#comment-48336 mary Sat, 20 Jun 2009 06:20:56 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=8499#comment-48336 Flight AF 447 - These two further articles indicate that the tail fell off and that there is a likelihood of components of the fuselage made of composite materials having fractured. http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=14025 Ground the Airbus? William John Cox http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-brazil-crash18-2009jun18,0,7456334.story Flight AF 447 – These two further articles indicate that the tail fell off and that there is a likelihood of components of the fuselage made of composite materials having fractured.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=14025
Ground the Airbus?
William John Cox

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-brazil-crash18-2009jun18,0,7456334.story

]]> By: The diplomat http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/06/what-happened-to-air-france-flight-447/#comment-47975 The diplomat Mon, 15 Jun 2009 03:55:55 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=8499#comment-47975 I believe it was shot down by a navy or some other military post or arm. Most likely US. It was most likely shot down accidently through false identification but civil planes have an IFF signal (international friend or foe) but perhaps this was switched off or malfunctioned. The US has already shot down one airliner and sent another to its death -remember KAL-007. Except in that case no bodies or significant debris has ever been found. Perhaps a US sub shot 447 down. If it was shot down then why is the big question. If someone thought it was a threat then why was no effort of indentifying the plane used. Who was on the plane? The military would have weather data and could have picked a storm as the perfect cover. But can a 25 kilo missle completely blow up a jumbo? I believe it was shot down by a navy or some other military post or arm. Most likely US. It was most likely shot down accidently through false identification but civil planes have an IFF signal (international friend or foe) but perhaps this was switched off or malfunctioned. The US has already shot down one airliner and sent another to its death -remember KAL-007. Except in that case no bodies or significant debris has ever been found. Perhaps a US sub shot 447 down. If it was shot down then why is the big question. If someone thought it was a threat then why was no effort of indentifying the plane used. Who was on the plane? The military would have weather data and could have picked a storm as the perfect cover. But can a 25 kilo missle completely blow up a jumbo?

]]> By: Ken http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/06/what-happened-to-air-france-flight-447/#comment-47763 Ken Thu, 11 Jun 2009 16:40:50 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=8499#comment-47763 Cover up? Yes, I believe Airbus (big government owned corporation) started that on the first day when they tried to blame the pilot for the accident just like in the NY Airbus crash. The tail came off in flight on that one as well. Poor design? It's a good possibility, but how many and in what systems. Obviously the composite tail is a problem that Airbus refuses to address. To do so would be to admit a faulty design of the structure. Are the ADIRU and autopilot problems? Yes, There is no hiding those and that information is out there as well. How about lightening? That could be a problem due to the amount of composite material used in the airframe and how little we know about the Faraday effect on those airframes and wiring within. Airbus stands to lose the most if the real truth is discovered. I believe the big wigs over in France already have a good idea of what happened and have no genuine interest in finding the FDR and CVR's. I'm sure, in the unfortunate event, they are found, they are working on ways to shift the blame to the pilots or a specific component. In essence, they have been doing that already with the pitot probes changes on the fleet. On the issue of Flight 800, I believe it was hit by a missle from a NAVY ship. I believe it was an oops that was covered up. Boeing took it up the tail pipe on that one. As for Mario's comments, NUTS! Cover up? Yes, I believe Airbus (big government owned corporation) started that on the first day when they tried to blame the pilot for the accident just like in the NY Airbus crash. The tail came off in flight on that one as well. Poor design? It’s a good possibility, but how many and in what systems. Obviously the composite tail is a problem that Airbus refuses to address. To do so would be to admit a faulty design of the structure. Are the ADIRU and autopilot problems? Yes, There is no hiding those and that information is out there as well. How about lightening? That could be a problem due to the amount of composite material used in the airframe and how little we know about the Faraday effect on those airframes and wiring within. Airbus stands to lose the most if the real truth is discovered. I believe the big wigs over in France already have a good idea of what happened and have no genuine interest in finding the FDR and CVR’s. I’m sure, in the unfortunate event, they are found, they are working on ways to shift the blame to the pilots or a specific component. In essence, they have been doing that already with the pitot probes changes on the fleet.

On the issue of Flight 800, I believe it was hit by a missle from a NAVY ship. I believe it was an oops that was covered up. Boeing took it up the tail pipe on that one.

As for Mario’s comments, NUTS!

]]> By: Mario http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/06/what-happened-to-air-france-flight-447/#comment-47647 Mario Tue, 09 Jun 2009 06:04:52 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=8499#comment-47647 I have faith that the US Navy shot down flight 447 just as it did TWA flight 800, which as the author eroneously mentioned was a result of a mechanical malfunction. This explains why the US Navy has been so helpful in the rescue and retrieval. The Americans hope to recover the black box before anyone else does so the world does not discover they are behind the attrocity. The USA is behind almost all the world's disasters. The American people are full of blood lust. I have faith that the US Navy shot down flight 447 just as it did TWA flight 800, which as the author eroneously mentioned was a result of a mechanical malfunction. This explains why the US Navy has been so helpful in the rescue and retrieval. The Americans hope to recover the black box before anyone else does so the world does not discover they are behind the attrocity. The USA is behind almost all the world’s disasters. The American people are full of blood lust.

]]> By: Avenueoflight http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/06/what-happened-to-air-france-flight-447/#comment-47475 Avenueoflight Sat, 06 Jun 2009 14:27:36 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=8499#comment-47475 I would agree with the "WHO" was on board? Also, to continually keep "FEAR" instilled in the world's eyes as 9/11 did so perfectly. Fear, Fear, FEAR . When FEAR is present; DOUBT comes into play. You may do some digging(deep) into my site; as their global intentions are soon to be shown and the whole world is totally asleep and UNaware of the fast approaching soon massive genocide awaitng just around the corner, implementing their Novus Ordo Seclorum (back of the dollar bill). Placed there by Freemason's under the hand of the Jesuit Order under the Black Pope (Superior General of the Jesuit Order). Their bringing forth of the "GREAT CHASTISEMENT" and the DEpopulation of the planet declared on the Georgia Guidestones from (6.2 billion down to 5.5 million). The whole world is deceived. Soon the chip(mark) will be implemented; and without one you will not be able to buy or sell(eat, drink) etc.... I aaure you; this is no game here and most eternally serious as every person's soul is the prize. Think not, visit my site. All I state is documented there; using "THEIR" words as evidence against them . Lord Bless, Avenueoflight I would agree with the “WHO” was on board? Also, to continually keep “FEAR” instilled in the world’s eyes as 9/11 did so perfectly. Fear, Fear, FEAR
. When FEAR is present; DOUBT comes into play. You may do some digging(deep) into my site; as their global intentions are soon to be shown and the whole world is totally asleep and UNaware of the fast approaching soon massive genocide awaitng just around the corner, implementing their Novus Ordo Seclorum (back of the dollar bill). Placed there by Freemason’s under the hand of the Jesuit Order under the Black Pope (Superior General of the Jesuit Order).

Their bringing forth of the “GREAT CHASTISEMENT” and the DEpopulation of the planet declared on the Georgia Guidestones from (6.2 billion down to 5.5 million). The whole world is deceived.
Soon the chip(mark) will be implemented; and without one you will not be able to buy or sell(eat, drink) etc…. I aaure you; this is no game here and most eternally serious as every person’s soul is the prize.
Think not, visit my site. All I state is documented there; using “THEIR” words as evidence against them .
Lord Bless, Avenueoflight

]]> By: denk http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/06/what-happened-to-air-france-flight-447/#comment-47461 denk Sat, 06 Jun 2009 02:00:37 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=8499#comment-47461 danny ray, i must work on my english for better communication i still cant figure out the grammer part lol danny ray,

i must work on my english for better communication
i still cant figure out the grammer part lol

]]> By: Danny Ray http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/06/what-happened-to-air-france-flight-447/#comment-47460 Danny Ray Sat, 06 Jun 2009 01:56:10 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=8499#comment-47460 I did not mean that to be sarcastic. you my friend may have all the slack you need. your english is far better than my chinese. :-) I did not mean that to be sarcastic. you my friend may have all the slack you need. your english is far better than my chinese. :-)

]]> By: denk http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/06/what-happened-to-air-france-flight-447/#comment-47456 denk Sat, 06 Jun 2009 00:33:19 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=8499#comment-47456 Danny Ray **I am so very sorry, I misunderstood your use of the word. normal usage of the term Generation as in war ships or aircraft means the next in the design or class. or the step in design before the one curently in use.** not need to be sacarstic, i already said i used the wrong word. cut some slack for a chinaman's english eh ? **, Carriers are for power projection and they has never been part of th peoples republic’s game plan.** this we can agree on. Danny Ray
**I am so very sorry, I misunderstood your use of the word. normal usage of the term Generation as in war ships or aircraft means the next in the design or class. or the step in design before the one curently in use.**

not need to be sacarstic, i already said i used the wrong word.
cut some slack for a chinaman’s english eh ?

**, Carriers are for power projection and they has never been part of th peoples republic’s game plan.**

this we can agree on.

]]> By: eduardo http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/06/what-happened-to-air-france-flight-447/#comment-47448 eduardo Fri, 05 Jun 2009 21:49:03 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=8499#comment-47448 The Chinese Academy of Sciences (CAS) has confirmed that Xiao Xiang, one of their associate research fellow of its institute of Engineering Thermophysics, was onboard Air France flight 447 that crashed into the Atlantic Ocean on June 1, 2009. Beneficiaries of one of the Chinese passengers onboard Air France Flight 447 may get 9.6 million yuan (US$1.4 million) in insurance, the largest amount ever paid to an individual in China. http://www.chinapost.com.tw/china/national-news/2009/06/05/210954/Chinese-passenger.htm The Chinese Academy of Sciences (CAS) has confirmed that Xiao Xiang, one of their associate research fellow of its institute of Engineering Thermophysics, was onboard Air France flight 447 that crashed into the Atlantic Ocean on June 1, 2009.

Beneficiaries of one of the Chinese passengers onboard Air France Flight 447 may get 9.6 million yuan (US$1.4 million) in insurance, the largest amount ever paid to an individual in China.

http://www.chinapost.com.tw/china/national-news/2009/06/05/210954/Chinese-passenger.htm

]]> By: Danny Ray http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/06/what-happened-to-air-france-flight-447/#comment-47447 Danny Ray Fri, 05 Jun 2009 21:45:42 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=8499#comment-47447 Should be "That has never." Should be “That has never.”

]]> By: Danny Ray http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/06/what-happened-to-air-france-flight-447/#comment-47446 Danny Ray Fri, 05 Jun 2009 21:44:21 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=8499#comment-47446 I am so very sorry, I misunderstood your use of the word. normal usage of the term Generation as in war ships or aircraft means the next in the design or class. or the step in design before the one curently in use. I did a little research amoung friends who are in the know about such things, China has no carriers at this time and do not seem to be ready to build one. They may perhaps be building something similar to out Marine landing ships. however they would need to adopt V-Stol aircraft The Russians have one which I am sure they would sell. The problem is China don't need a carrier, Carriers are for power projection and they has never been part of th peoples republic's game plan. I am so very sorry, I misunderstood your use of the word. normal usage of the term Generation as in war ships or aircraft means the next in the design or class. or the step in design before the one curently in use.

I did a little research amoung friends who are in the know about such things, China has no carriers at this time and do not seem to be ready to build one. They may perhaps be building something similar to out Marine landing ships. however they would need to adopt V-Stol aircraft
The Russians have one which I am sure they would sell.

The problem is China don’t need a carrier, Carriers are for power projection and they has never been part of th peoples republic’s game plan.

]]> By: denk http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/06/what-happened-to-air-france-flight-447/#comment-47438 denk Fri, 05 Jun 2009 17:44:19 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=8499#comment-47438 danny ray, i know china hasnt got a carrier yet, may be i should say china's first aircraft carrier. and this guy is the top man for both carrier and submarine project. as for me hating usa, may be you should ask why the WORLD hates usa instead tinyurl.com/5mezy fyi, cia did try to kill chou enlai once tinyurl.com/y9aqhy tinyurl.com/lvkxby danny ray,
i know china hasnt got a carrier yet,
may be i should say china’s first aircraft carrier.
and this guy is the top man for both carrier and submarine project.

as for me hating usa, may be you should ask why the WORLD hates usa instead
tinyurl.com/5mezy

fyi, cia did try to kill chou enlai once
tinyurl.com/y9aqhy
tinyurl.com/lvkxby

]]> By: Danny Ray http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/06/what-happened-to-air-france-flight-447/#comment-47436 Danny Ray Fri, 05 Jun 2009 17:26:28 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=8499#comment-47436 Denk, China don't have a nuclear aircraft carrier so there is no next generation nuke carrier, as for nuke subs they just build copies of Russian Boats, You can check it out at jane's if you wish. I know how bad you hate America and want to blame it for all the bad in the world but sometimes shit just falls apart. As the Gentleman just above you and brian so well put it. Denk, China don’t have a nuclear aircraft carrier so there is no next generation nuke carrier, as for nuke subs they just build copies of Russian Boats, You can check it out at jane’s if you wish. I know how bad you hate America and want to blame it for all the bad in the world but sometimes shit just falls apart. As the Gentleman just above you and brian so well put it.

]]> By: denk http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/06/what-happened-to-air-france-flight-447/#comment-47433 denk Fri, 05 Jun 2009 15:56:07 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=8499#comment-47433 on board were 9 chinese engineers, one of them the pivotal designer of china's next generation nuclear aircraft carrier and nuclear submarine program. he just completed an exchange programe with his brazil counterpart, conerning brazil's nuclear submarine project. on board were 9 chinese engineers, one of them the pivotal designer of china’s next generation nuclear aircraft carrier and nuclear submarine program.
he just completed an exchange programe with his brazil counterpart, conerning brazil’s nuclear submarine project.

]]> By: Brian http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/06/what-happened-to-air-france-flight-447/#comment-47392 Brian Thu, 04 Jun 2009 13:14:46 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=8499#comment-47392 Garcia has a history of writing articles on behalf of America's ruling class. He is a member of the anti-conspiracy propagandists regarding the 9-11 crime Garcia has a history of writing articles on behalf of America’s ruling class. He is a member of the anti-conspiracy propagandists regarding the 9-11 crime

]]> By: Pancho http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/06/what-happened-to-air-france-flight-447/#comment-47390 Pancho Thu, 04 Jun 2009 12:50:50 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=8499#comment-47390 It isn't political as the man stated above unless it is a preparation for the coming conspiracy theory. Who on board 'had to be killed' and for what reason? Perhaps we are all so accustomed to flying and bitching about the warm beer and cheap wine that we have forgotten the miracle that occurs every time we safely land half-way round the shrinking planet. Accidental death and explosions still do sometimes happen, even when we are daily reminded that the overwhelming number of 'normal' explosions and drone murders are committed by our dear government. It isn’t political as the man stated above unless it is a preparation for the coming conspiracy theory. Who on board ‘had to be killed’ and for what reason? Perhaps we are all so accustomed to flying and bitching about the warm beer and cheap wine that we have forgotten the miracle that occurs every time we safely land half-way round the shrinking planet.

Accidental death and explosions still do sometimes happen, even when we are daily reminded that the overwhelming number of ‘normal’ explosions and drone murders are committed by our dear government.

]]> By: joed http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/06/what-happened-to-air-france-flight-447/#comment-47364 joed Wed, 03 Jun 2009 21:47:21 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=8499#comment-47364 one of mr. garcia's articles. http://www.counterpunch.org/garcia06022008.html one of mr. garcia’s articles.
http://www.counterpunch.org/garcia06022008.html

]]> By: joed http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/06/what-happened-to-air-france-flight-447/#comment-47363 joed Wed, 03 Jun 2009 21:34:15 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=8499#comment-47363 mr. garcia is perhaps one of the few true dissidents you will read on dissident voice. go to his site and find out--or don't. you would probably just be in the way when the shit hits the fan for real. mr. garcia is perhaps one of the few true dissidents you will read on dissident voice. go to his site and find out–or don’t. you would probably just be in the way when the shit hits the fan for real.

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