Nice article

Regarding FDR being a man of the people:
The people were going to burn the system down and he chose the best course he thought was available to keep revolt at bay.

Sometimes you crush people to make an example and when that doesn’t work you give back to them a portion of the bread they made and act like it was your generous idea. Huey Long was more valuable to the people than Lord Roosevelt, but he caught a bullet while some of his crazy ideas were being reluctantly co-opted.

I have not voted for a Democrat (or Republican) since the early 90s. I worked for Nader in 2004 and volunteered in my free time for Nader in 2008. If you go to VotersForPeace.US and look in the archives of article I wrote and we published you will see I told the truth about Obama and everything I predicted is now coming true.

I tried to engage Kat in discussing this but that led to a dead end and she just kept putting out inaccurate nonsense.

KZ

People who shamed themselves need to grasp that they can’t keep gas bagging. Maybe it works that way on TV but this isn’t Meet The Press and I don’t take people Kevin Zeese seriously anymore.

KZ

The habit of using these terms confuses and keeps us from any sort of meaningful discourse. Granted it’s a tough habit to break, but wherever and whenever possible refrain. We might find we actually discover first principle solutions to real problems instead of old ideologues farting around.

Actually, for what it is worth, as a pharmacy co-owner RG the LG is VERY active in desiring and working toward a system of universal health care. NOT some watered down single payer crap … but REAL health care for all! My problem with social benefits is that every time someone gets a little, then the fight goes out of us … compromise sets in and we end up getting screwed.

This is a very keen observation and why there are aspects of the “single payer” health care “movement” that really needs to be questioned. My concerned with the “movement” is that it smells more like Liberal reformism rather than something that could go further. Why stop only at single payer and not demand universal welfare.

For example if you are homeless what good is having “health care”? Why not include a demand for housing. And what about all the stress in life like debt? Why not demand debt relief for all? Relieving monetary stress will go a long way to improving health.

My concern is that the demand for “single payer” is really about “middle class” folks who fear going bankrupt. Well the poor really don’t have a stake in that since they are effectively “bankrupt”. It doesn’t seem to be that there is any really solidarity among the “single payer” advocates with the needs of the poor and dispossessed and deadbeats. It seems like the “single payer movement” is really bankruptcy protection for the middle class.

It that is the case, I can tell you that the politicians knows that the “single payer movement” has no real strength of numbers and therefore are fairly safe is coming up with half-assed solutions. It seems to me that had the advocate of single-payer did more outreach outside of their class interest perhaps they would get some aspects of single payer.

What I see is exactly what RG describes. And that is if single payer was achieved this movement would fizzle into nothingness and the ruling class would find ways to degrade they single payer system anyway. This is why a real movement much reach out and find solidarity with the whole of the working class — the poor, the dispossessed and the deadbeats.

You have not given any proof of political action on your part that is somehow superior to journalism; running a pharmacy and formulating a reactionary response to the idea of guaranteed healthcare is supposed to be better? I think not, and I’m glad there are articles here, because unlike you, I agree with their political stance.

RG the LG

I am simply saying, as best I can, that posting to this site is fine and dandy … but that is all it is. Just fine.

Until the masses rise up in righteous anger, nothing will change. The consensus types who argue that we operate consensually do so only insofar as we have very little choice politically. The progressives talk about how we continually make progress … and wiping out the Arawaks in a quest for gold was progressive if you mean that they were removed from the scene so plantations could be created … and then slaves imported from Africa. I suppose that is progress of a sort. Obliteration of the native americans, setting poor people against poor people (ever read Howard Fast, ‘Freedom Road’ … sure it isn’t history … but it is historical and much more descriptive of the post-civil war south than the crap you learned in school. Progress to get minerals out of the ground to support your progressive lifestyle means strip mining and environmental degradation … all in the name of progressives and jobs for poor people to fight over thus keeping salaries down … ) The left rants about what needs to be done … and then simply sits back and watches (apologies to Howard Zinn, et al) as the system adjusts to buy off the leaders … and thus quell the rebellion.

So, until you actually get off of your duff and man the barricades, the status quo is the way it is as we sit by, complicit, and let it happen.

Actually, for what it is worth, as a pharmacy co-owner RG the LG is VERY active in desiring and working toward a system of universal health care. NOT some watered down single payer crap … but REAL health care for all! My problem with social benefits is that every time someone gets a little, then the fight goes out of us … compromise sets in and we end up getting screwed. You may enjoy it, but I don’t. My problem with the Senate Bill … is that it will mean that small independent pharmacies will fall to the Wal-Marts and the Costcos and the other big box outfits because we can not afford to do all of the paperwork that the Senate Bill brings with it. $50,000 fees and massive amounts of paperwork are peanuts to a multi-million dollar operation … but a huge bite out of a small operators budget. (About 25% to be exact.) And yes, we could do it … but we’ll be freezing wages for our people, forced into putting them into the universal system … assuming they qualify … and eroding our personal income from about $50k per year to around 435k. What would you do? Here is another point … when you go into Wal-Mart, count the people behind the counter … usually three, maybe four if they are pretty busy. It takes us eight to twelve people because of all of the paperwork that the big boxes do collectively … and those clerical people with their state of the art machines can handle multiple times the volume we do … since they have economies of scale. Also, we carry about 100 customers (families) on credit and don’t collect a dime of interest on it. Let’s see Wally World do the same? What about Walgreen’s … or any of the others. You can get the meds by usurious credit card rates with them, but we take a different view.

So, while I rant against the stupidity I see on a site like this, I also walk the walk as I talk the talk.

If you have read FREEDOM ROAD, I see you as a Senator Holms …

Nuff said?

RG the LG

“..it is of incalculable importance that America, Australia, and Siberia should pass out of the hands of their red, black, and yellow aboriginal owners, and become the heritage of the dominant world races.” – teddy rossevelt.

Bureau of Corporations. As an arm of the newly created department, a Bureau of Corporations was established to find violations under the existing antitrust legislation. The Bureau began investigations into the activities of the meatpacking, oil, steel and tobacco industries, among others.

Antitrust Law Suits. Roosevelt instructed his attorney general, Philander C. Knox, to launch a series of lawsuits against what were deemed offensive business combinations. Such giants as J.P. Morgan’s Northern Securities Company, John D. Rockefeller’s Standard Oil Trust and James B. Duke’s tobacco trust were targets of the government’s attorneys. In all, forty-four suits were brought during Roosevelt’s administration.

so why in the hell would you call him a right wing loser?