Comments on: Marseilles 1212

By: john andrews

john andrews — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 16:23:50 +0000

David,

You are, of course, right that we peasants have infinitely better access to information than our ancestors – but therein lies part of the problem: we are confronted by so much distraction and utterly useless information that it is all but impossible to filter out the useful bits. We are too deafened by the noise to hear the melody, too blinded by the wood to see the trees.

By: David

David — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 15:16:56 +0000

A major difference that can be drawn between the peasant society of 1212 A. D. and now (since we are drawing similes here and the lower class of the USA is made up of modern-day peasants by most measures) is that in 1212, peasants had no opportunities to learn about their world. They were denied the ability to think because of their day-to-day survival needs and were largely confined to serfdom under some baron or lord.

In the USA and mostly since about 1950, American peasants have had the opportunity to learn about their world, even if by self-teaching. Yet, tens of millions have not availed themselves of this wonderous chance, choosing instead to watch TV, wander the malls, or play with their gas-powered toys. (To be sure, many in the modern peasant class, howsoever you choose to define that, have acquired diplomas of various sorts. This has made little difference in preventing our current plight, hasn’t it? Perhaps the holders of these diplomas really didn’t learn much.)

I suggest that before we start to look for the bogeyman outside of ourselves that we look inside and find out why this has happened.

By: bozh

bozh — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 13:01:30 +0000

john andrews, yes
our enslavement or subjugation started with rise of shamanism. It was later fully developed and institutionalized by criminal-minded priests.
Pharoah, e.g., was raised to the status of a god.
as late as 18th century only patricians cld be priests. High priests were often high rulers. tnx

By: john andrews

john andrews — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 05:07:53 +0000

The existence of god (or gods), the base of most main religions, has never been proven.

Therefore those religions are all groundless.

The main purpose of all religion has always been to control people; possibly the most effective control device after weapons of war.

By: Barry99

Barry99 — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 01:01:08 +0000

To say nothing of the Jewish fanatics, the apparent inventors of monotheistic rage against the other. How unlucky to be born Palestinian in Palestine – several thousand years after one might have been unlucky enough to be born a Philistine in Philistia.

By: bozh

bozh — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 19:22:38 +0000

the cultists evaluate a planetary region as holy. But there is only one planet which cannot be subordinate to an impoverished/tiny region.
the ‘holy’ region comprises just 001% of the planet.
so, to make any sense at all, it is 99.99% of the planet wich shld be holy
and not troubled sliver of land.
actually, word “holy” is an sacerdotal invention. And if there is such category as “holy” then every human being and inch of land/sea is also holy.
but most priests are screwers and not improvers. So, the time has come to tell the priestly class to stop their vitiating labors.
we have enough problems without priestly inventions. tnx bozhidar balkas vancouver

By: rg the lg

rg the lg — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 18:55:23 +0000

Well said.

The children’s crusade … the response of capitalism to simple faith …

Don’t change much, does it?

RG the LG