Comments on: Using a License to Practice Law to Facilitate Torture Should Result in Disbarment http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/05/using-a-license-to-practice-law-to-facilitate-torture-should-result-in-disbarment/ a radical newsletter in the struggle for peace and social justice Mon, 23 Nov 2009 06:04:29 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: atiya http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/05/using-a-license-to-practice-law-to-facilitate-torture-should-result-in-disbarment/#comment-46346 atiya Tue, 19 May 2009 19:48:45 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=8259#comment-46346 A very good article and I congratulate you for what you are doing. I'll go and have a look at your link. A very good article and I congratulate you for what you are doing. I’ll go and have a look at your link.

]]> By: bozh http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/05/using-a-license-to-practice-law-to-facilitate-torture-should-result-in-disbarment/#comment-46327 bozh Tue, 19 May 2009 16:17:18 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=8259#comment-46327 as deadbeat has pointed out, isn't debt a torture? I'd like to add that warfare is the greatest torture. Threats of warfare, occupations, etc., are next greatest evil acts. caveat! I am in no way suggesting that kevin zeese does not recognize these facts. however, i do wish that he looks at the world problems from a widest vista possible. Narrower or narrowest look wld be to find an odd individual guilty for systemic crimes. i am not saying that every fact or event must be taken into account. But, reading journalitsts' pieces, two of the most salient facts hardly ever are taken into account when attempting to elucidate people. and it takes only to omit one salient fact to present to unwary readers a fictitious realiy. Yes, folks, just omission of one fact can screw one's life. the facts most often excluded from consideration are a governnance and cults; commonly called religions. leave out just one of these facts, and one is at sea. Governance may be defined as a system of rule. A system of rule in US not only allows but demands that all tortures known to a person be perped. constitution is part of governance; the most esential part. And it does not say, Thou shall not wage a war but thou shall defend self! it doesn't say, Thou must obtain healthcare. so what is needed to stop all or most tortures is to rewrite constitution. if we cannot, then things continue on regardless what we do or say. the question arises, how can we stop any torture when the three major cults believe in inventions like mahdi, jesus, or moshiach? who will reward even the worst criminals. as issaiah said, No matter how great your sins are, they will be as wool. so with 3-4+ bn of people believing that their crimes against humanity will be cleansed and we being quiet about it, how can we stop any iniquity? tnx as deadbeat has pointed out, isn’t debt a torture? I’d like to add that warfare is the greatest torture. Threats of warfare, occupations, etc., are next greatest evil acts.
caveat! I am in no way suggesting that kevin zeese does not recognize these facts.

however, i do wish that he looks at the world problems from a widest vista possible. Narrower or narrowest look wld be to find an odd individual guilty for systemic crimes.
i am not saying that every fact or event must be taken into account. But, reading journalitsts’ pieces, two of the most salient facts hardly ever are taken into account when attempting to elucidate people.

and it takes only to omit one salient fact to present to unwary readers a fictitious realiy. Yes, folks, just omission of one fact can screw one’s life.
the facts most often excluded from consideration are a governnance and cults; commonly called religions.

leave out just one of these facts, and one is at sea. Governance may be defined as a system of rule. A system of rule in US not only allows but demands that all tortures known to a person be perped.

constitution is part of governance; the most esential part. And it does not say, Thou shall not wage a war but thou shall defend self!
it doesn’t say, Thou must obtain healthcare.

so what is needed to stop all or most tortures is to rewrite constitution.
if we cannot, then things continue on regardless what we do or say.
the question arises, how can we stop any torture when the three major cults believe in inventions like mahdi, jesus, or moshiach?
who will reward even the worst criminals.
as issaiah said, No matter how great your sins are, they will be as wool.
so with 3-4+ bn of people believing that their crimes against humanity will be cleansed and we being quiet about it, how can we stop any iniquity? tnx

]]> By: Kevin Zeese http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/05/using-a-license-to-practice-law-to-facilitate-torture-should-result-in-disbarment/#comment-46314 Kevin Zeese Tue, 19 May 2009 13:40:45 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=8259#comment-46314 I hope people will join efforts to do something about these issues. We are focusing on the torture issue through our anti-war group, VotersForPeace.US. This is just a phase of the campaign that we hope to grow but need your help to do so. And, economic issues are being dealt with on ProsperityAgenda.US. We recognize the economy only works for the elites and that has been true for decades. Debt is one example of that. A major focus right now is single payer health care. I was one of those arrested in front of Sen Baucus who is pushing the insurance company approach to health care. Get involved. I hope people will join efforts to do something about these issues.

We are focusing on the torture issue through our anti-war group, VotersForPeace.US. This is just a phase of the campaign that we hope to grow but need your help to do so.

And, economic issues are being dealt with on ProsperityAgenda.US. We recognize the economy only works for the elites and that has been true for decades. Debt is one example of that. A major focus right now is single payer health care. I was one of those arrested in front of Sen Baucus who is pushing the insurance company approach to health care.

Get involved.

]]> By: Deadbeat http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/05/using-a-license-to-practice-law-to-facilitate-torture-should-result-in-disbarment/#comment-46249 Deadbeat Tue, 19 May 2009 05:24:09 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=8259#comment-46249 Isn't debt a form a torture? Isn’t debt a form a torture?

]]> By: rosemarie jackowski http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/05/using-a-license-to-practice-law-to-facilitate-torture-should-result-in-disbarment/#comment-46214 rosemarie jackowski Mon, 18 May 2009 18:19:56 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=8259#comment-46214 Great article here. Yes, they should be disbarred - no question about that. Also the Psychologists and other medical personnel who participated in torture should also have their licenses lifted. "First do no harm". Why are these elitist professionals being allowed to by-pass the law? Indictments should follow. If ALL else fails - the very least that should happen is that they should be given "Pardons" by Obama. That would signal the rest of the world that we recognize that crimes have been committed. I am sure that Obama will not do that because of the involvement of the dems and political considerations. I believe that there is precedent for issuing a pardon without a trial or conviction? Great article here. Yes, they should be disbarred – no question about that.

Also the Psychologists and other medical personnel who participated in torture should also have their licenses lifted. “First do no harm”.

Why are these elitist professionals being allowed to by-pass the law? Indictments should follow.

If ALL else fails – the very least that should happen is that they should be given “Pardons” by Obama. That would signal the rest of the world that we recognize that crimes have been committed. I am sure that Obama will not do that because of the involvement of the dems and political considerations. I believe that there is precedent for issuing a pardon without a trial or conviction?

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