Comments on: Torture? What Torture? We Need More Torture! http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/05/torture-what-torture-we-need-more-torture/ a radical newsletter in the struggle for peace and social justice Thu, 08 Dec 2011 15:07:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: kalidas http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/05/torture-what-torture-we-need-more-torture/#comment-47230 kalidas Mon, 01 Jun 2009 02:00:38 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=8437#comment-47230 Well Gary, it's the thought that counts... Well Gary, it’s the thought that counts…

]]> By: Wayne http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/05/torture-what-torture-we-need-more-torture/#comment-47172 Wayne Sat, 30 May 2009 18:15:03 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=8437#comment-47172 Have we learned nothing? The more of what ever you put into this world the more you get of it in the world. Why would you quote Chuang Tse and then infer violence? He and Lao Tsu believed in peace and being centered on the goodness inside man. Do you remember the quote "He who chooses to live by the sword will surely die by the sword"? Have we learned nothing? The more of what ever you put into this world the more you get of it in the world. Why would you quote Chuang Tse and then infer violence? He and Lao Tsu believed in peace and being centered on the goodness inside man.

Do you remember the quote “He who chooses to live by the sword will surely die by the sword”?

]]> By: mary http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/05/torture-what-torture-we-need-more-torture/#comment-47170 mary Sat, 30 May 2009 17:34:26 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=8437#comment-47170 Wow Gary your pen (or rather keyboard) is truly mightier than the sword. Powerful. Respect and awe. I am finding the witness statements from those who have been tortured more painful to read than looking at the photographs from behind a hand and find it difficult to understand how one human can do such things to another. Bush has just been speaking to a 'sympathetic audience' in Michigan condoning what has been done, just as Cheney did recently. http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/05/29/george.bush.speech/?iref=mpstoryview Mulga - Your Dr Mervyn Bendle from Townsville (any connection with Stepford?) seems to have a problem with people of a different skin colour judging from the titles of his articles. Just think that he is probably inseminating his ideas into the minds of the next generation of students whom he is employed to teach these subjects. •HI2013/3013/5013 History of Communication •CU2030/3030/5030 Science Fiction, Fantasy & Popular Culture http://www.jcu.edu.au/sass/staff/JCUPRD_016753.html I assume the dangerous stuff which you read is at this link - Don't help the Nazis http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25552777-7583,00.html Wow Gary your pen (or rather keyboard) is truly mightier than the sword. Powerful. Respect and awe.

I am finding the witness statements from those who have been tortured more painful to read than looking at the photographs from behind a hand and find it difficult to understand how one human can do such things to another. Bush has just been speaking to a ‘sympathetic audience’ in Michigan condoning what has been done, just as Cheney did recently.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/05/29/george.bush.speech/?iref=mpstoryview

Mulga – Your Dr Mervyn Bendle from Townsville (any connection with Stepford?) seems to have a problem with people of a different skin colour judging from the titles of his articles. Just think that he is probably inseminating his ideas into the minds of the next generation of students whom he is employed to teach these subjects.

•HI2013/3013/5013 History of Communication
•CU2030/3030/5030 Science Fiction, Fantasy & Popular Culture

http://www.jcu.edu.au/sass/staff/JCUPRD_016753.html

I assume the dangerous stuff which you read is at this link –
Don’t help the Nazis
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25552777-7583,00.html

]]> By: Mulga Mumblebrain http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/05/torture-what-torture-we-need-more-torture/#comment-47160 Mulga Mumblebrain Sat, 30 May 2009 09:31:16 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=8437#comment-47160 I've just finished reading an op-ed piece in Friday 29th's 'The Australian'. It may be difficult to find, as it appears to have been removed from the web-site, and I had to buy a copy of yesterday's paper from a newsagent. As I was reading through its brief few paragraphs I began experiencing that familiar sinking feeling one so often suffers as one is exposed to the extreme Rightwing hate-mongering that is so common in the media, particularly Murdoch's sewer. I would venture to say that, in my opinion, it was one of the vilest and most clearly deranged pieces I have yet seen in newspapers, although my infrequent masochistic excursions into the pages of Commentary and a local wannabe impersonator, Quadrant, once, if not still, (who knows?), a recipient of CIA largesse,have acquainted me, alas, with the style. The author was one Merv Bendle, a minor academic from a minor, provincial, university. Bendle has been quite vociferous in presenting his ideological wares over recent years, beginning with becoming one of 'The Australian's' plethora of pet Rightwing letter writers. I don't think it would be judged unfair by most disinterested readers if I was to say that, in my opinion, Bendle's shtick is fanatic devotion to the glory of 'Western Civilization', which has been nothing but a blessing for the earth and its people, and resolute hatred for all its 'enemies'. These, it seems to me, Bendle sees as principally the malign 'Leftist''enemy within', and the fanatic Islamist, ie any follower of Islam who does not follow orders from Washington and Tel Aviv. The gist of Bendle's memorable contribution was that the Nazi Judeocide was unique in all history. Moreover the attempt to compare any other genocide or atrocity to it was, in fact, an attempt to exculpate Nazism. Bendle asserted that all allegations of genocides by the West against indigenous everywhere were concoctions and inventions by vile Leftists, wicked enemies of Western civilizational magnificence. How he comes to see 'Leftists' as engaged in a project to resuscitate Nazism, only a student of the deranged psyche could, in my opinion, venture an explanation. Bendle was vociferous in his emphasis on historians of the dispossession of Aboriginal Australia, the ongoing destruction of its culture and sundry crimes like the generations of child-theft that devastated Aboriginal families. The Right in this country has mounted a ferocious and, in my opinion, utterly evil campaign to deny that these child removals ever happened, but you must recall that Australia, despite its pretensions to loveability is a deeply, deeply, racist country. In fact, at this very time, the bi-partisan policy of both major parties is the coerced assimilation of Aborigines into 'mainstream' Australian life, through a process of paternalistic and disempowering 'interventions' into Aboriginal communities, on the basis that these communities exhibit marked social pathology in drunkenness, violence and child abuse. These undoubted crises are never, however, blamed on centuries of dispossession, racism, contempt and disempowerment by the mainstream. No, and once again, as in every other Rightwing hate-fest in this country, Murdoch's cess-pool is to the fore, it is all blamed on the victims. It is the fault of Aboriginal culture, or traditional law, or the 'out-station' movement that saw Aborigines return to their ancestral lands or of white 'do-gooders'. The 'do-badders' are in the ascendancy, and an ongoing campaign of cultural genocide is being waged, with pitifully little resistance from the smug, complacent, 'main-stream'. In my opinion, there is a bitter irony in Bendle's Holocaust denying of all genocides but the Nazi Judeocide. One wonders what his position is on the extermination of the Roma, homosexuals, Jehovah's Witnesses let alone twenty million Soviet citizens. There is, I believe, in this peculiar, and to my mind, peculiarly distasteful obscenity, an element of Judeomania, for want of a better word. It seems to me that a certain type of extreme Rightwing, obviously religiously fanatic, Jew, and their accomplices and allies on the Gentile Right, literally see the Nazi Holocaust as the most significant event in history. While not for an instant underestimating its importance as one of the greatest crimes and tragedies of human history, I think that this elevation of the Judeocide to such an importance, let alone any doctrine that attempts to deny or diminish all the other similar atrocities in history, the slaughter of millions of indigenous by Western colonialists and imperialists the most obvious, is utterly pernicious. I cannot escape the conclusion that such a judgement is based on a calculus that sees Judaic lives as more valuable than those of North American natives, black Africans, Indian peasants and tribal people in South America, let alone Armenians. And such a mentality is, to my way of thinking, deeply wicked. Judaic lives are every bit as valuable as those of any other person, but not one jot more so, and the mass killing of Jews is not more worthy of remembrance than the mass murder of any other group. To make matters even worse, Judeofascists and their allies use the horrors of the Judeocide as an excuse for Israel's current crimes, and as a cudgel to bludgeon those who criticise those crimes. In my opinion that is moral insanity and a grave insult to the memory of the Judaic victims of Nazism. I’ve just finished reading an op-ed piece in Friday 29th’s ‘The Australian’. It may be difficult to find, as it appears to have been removed from the web-site, and I had to buy a copy of yesterday’s paper from a newsagent.
As I was reading through its brief few paragraphs I began experiencing that familiar sinking feeling one so often suffers as one is exposed to the extreme Rightwing hate-mongering that is so common in the media, particularly Murdoch’s sewer. I would venture to say that, in my opinion, it was one of the vilest and most clearly deranged pieces I have yet seen in newspapers, although my infrequent masochistic excursions into the pages of Commentary and a local wannabe impersonator, Quadrant, once, if not still, (who knows?), a recipient of CIA largesse,have acquainted me, alas, with the style.
The author was one Merv Bendle, a minor academic from a minor, provincial, university. Bendle has been quite vociferous in presenting his ideological wares over recent years, beginning with becoming one of ‘The Australian’s’ plethora of pet Rightwing letter writers. I don’t think it would be judged unfair by most disinterested readers if I was to say that, in my opinion, Bendle’s shtick is fanatic devotion to the glory of ‘Western Civilization’, which has been nothing but a blessing for the earth and its people, and resolute hatred for all its ‘enemies’. These, it seems to me, Bendle sees as principally the malign ‘Leftist”enemy within’, and the fanatic Islamist, ie any follower of Islam who does not follow orders from Washington and Tel Aviv.
The gist of Bendle’s memorable contribution was that the Nazi Judeocide was unique in all history. Moreover the attempt to compare any other genocide or atrocity to it was, in fact, an attempt to exculpate Nazism. Bendle asserted that all allegations of genocides by the West against indigenous everywhere were concoctions and inventions by vile Leftists, wicked enemies of Western civilizational magnificence. How he comes to see ‘Leftists’ as engaged in a project to resuscitate Nazism, only a student of the deranged psyche could, in my opinion, venture an explanation. Bendle was vociferous in his emphasis on historians of the dispossession of Aboriginal Australia, the ongoing destruction of its culture and sundry crimes like the generations of child-theft that devastated Aboriginal families. The Right in this country has mounted a ferocious and, in my opinion, utterly evil campaign to deny that these child removals ever happened, but you must recall that Australia, despite its pretensions to loveability is a deeply, deeply, racist country. In fact, at this very time, the bi-partisan policy of both major parties is the coerced assimilation of Aborigines into ‘mainstream’ Australian life, through a process of paternalistic and disempowering ‘interventions’ into Aboriginal communities, on the basis that these communities exhibit marked social pathology in drunkenness, violence and child abuse. These undoubted crises are never, however, blamed on centuries of dispossession, racism, contempt and disempowerment by the mainstream. No, and once again, as in every other Rightwing hate-fest in this country, Murdoch’s cess-pool is to the fore, it is all blamed on the victims. It is the fault of Aboriginal culture, or traditional law, or the ‘out-station’ movement that saw Aborigines return to their ancestral lands or of white ‘do-gooders’. The ‘do-badders’ are in the ascendancy, and an ongoing campaign of cultural genocide is being waged, with pitifully little resistance from the smug, complacent, ‘main-stream’.
In my opinion, there is a bitter irony in Bendle’s Holocaust denying of all genocides but the Nazi Judeocide. One wonders what his position is on the extermination of the Roma, homosexuals, Jehovah’s Witnesses let alone twenty million Soviet citizens. There is, I believe, in this peculiar, and to my mind, peculiarly distasteful obscenity, an element of Judeomania, for want of a better word. It seems to me that a certain type of extreme Rightwing, obviously religiously fanatic, Jew, and their accomplices and allies on the Gentile Right, literally see the Nazi Holocaust as the most significant event in history. While not for an instant underestimating its importance as one of the greatest crimes and tragedies of human history, I think that this elevation of the Judeocide to such an importance, let alone any doctrine that attempts to deny or diminish all the other similar atrocities in history, the slaughter of millions of indigenous by Western colonialists and imperialists the most obvious, is utterly pernicious. I cannot escape the conclusion that such a judgement is based on a calculus that sees Judaic lives as more valuable than those of North American natives, black Africans, Indian peasants and tribal people in South America, let alone Armenians. And such a mentality is, to my way of thinking, deeply wicked. Judaic lives are every bit as valuable as those of any other person, but not one jot more so, and the mass killing of Jews is not more worthy of remembrance than the mass murder of any other group. To make matters even worse, Judeofascists and their allies use the horrors of the Judeocide as an excuse for Israel’s current crimes, and as a cudgel to bludgeon those who criticise those crimes. In my opinion that is moral insanity and a grave insult to the memory of the Judaic victims of Nazism.

]]> By: Carlyle Moulton http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/05/torture-what-torture-we-need-more-torture/#comment-47156 Carlyle Moulton Sat, 30 May 2009 05:38:41 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=8437#comment-47156 Why ever did we stop hanging witches and burning heretics? The problem is those stupid people who think human rights should be extended to those members of homo sapiens sapiens , such as niggers, camel jockeys and poor people that are obstacles for the interests of Gods True Children. What decent people really need are death squads, torture gulags and a lot of genocide to deal with God's Step Children. Death squads, now! Death squads, now! Death squads, now! What we want is death squads now! Genocide now! Genocide now! Genocide now! What we need is some genocide now! Why ever did we stop hanging witches and burning heretics?

The problem is those stupid people who think human rights should be extended to those members of homo sapiens sapiens , such as niggers, camel jockeys and poor people that are obstacles for the interests of Gods True Children.

What decent people really need are death squads, torture gulags and a lot of genocide to deal with God’s Step Children.

Death squads, now!
Death squads, now!
Death squads, now!
What we want is death squads now!

Genocide now!
Genocide now!
Genocide now!
What we need is some genocide now!

]]> By: Tennessee-Chavizta http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/05/torture-what-torture-we-need-more-torture/#comment-47151 Tennessee-Chavizta Sat, 30 May 2009 02:43:59 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=8437#comment-47151 Mulga: Your comments are very smart right on the point about US politics. You should post your comments in a blogger. Mulga: Your comments are very smart right on the point about US politics. You should post your comments in a blogger.

]]> By: lichen http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/05/torture-what-torture-we-need-more-torture/#comment-47147 lichen Sat, 30 May 2009 00:28:43 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=8437#comment-47147 Yes, the will to torture comes from people who have been tortured themselves, often in childhood. Such as in Texas, the number one military-recruited state in the country, where children are still paddled at school and treated with equal disrespect, torture, and hatred at home, where boys have genitals mutilated as infants, and no one protects them from rampant bullying. When they are sent off to revenge themselves upon the bodies of middle easterners, that is exactly what they do. Yes, the will to torture comes from people who have been tortured themselves, often in childhood. Such as in Texas, the number one military-recruited state in the country, where children are still paddled at school and treated with equal disrespect, torture, and hatred at home, where boys have genitals mutilated as infants, and no one protects them from rampant bullying. When they are sent off to revenge themselves upon the bodies of middle easterners, that is exactly what they do.

]]> By: Mulga Mumblebrain http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/05/torture-what-torture-we-need-more-torture/#comment-47145 Mulga Mumblebrain Fri, 29 May 2009 23:11:52 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=8437#comment-47145 The mentality behind torture has nothing whatsoever to do with obtaining information. The 'ticking-bomb' excuse, manufactured by the Zionazi lie factory to justify decades of mass, brutal, torture of tens of thousands of Palestinians, is, of course, utter rubbish. There is absolutely no way in which to know whether information gathered under torture is true, or is just what the torturers want to hear, given up to end the torment. After all Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, after being water-boarded 183 times in one month, confessed to every crime since the Ripper murders. Israel, being the world leader in torture, particularly of Arabs, lent their expertise in sexually humiliating and degrading torture to their Yankee stooges in Iraq. There have been numerous examples of the US torturing people to death in the War of Terror, but this is, after all, the country that practised 'pump and dump' in the thousands of cases, in Vietnam. As most organisations concerned with attempting to rehabilitate torture victims make plain, torture is useless for gaining information. It is used to terrorise a subject population, to recruit informers and traitors and to satisfy the sadistic urges of psychopaths. In all these fields Israel stands unique in the world in the field. Not just does it practise mass torture, not only has it become the leading source of propaganda justifying torture, of untermenschen only, naturally, but its apologists are constantly on the alert to vilify and abuse those who point out this evil record. The logic of the 'ticking-bomb' argument to justify torture could just as easily be used to justify torturing a victim's relatives, neighbours or friends if their tongues have not been sufficiently loosened by being tortured themselves. This sort of behaviour is of course the easier for those who see their lives and those of potential victims, as vastly more important than those of the torture victims. And who can deny that within Israel there are those, particularly within the military and political elite who feel just that way? After all the callous and brutal assaults on Lebanon and Gaza were clearly the work of creatures who have no inhibitions in killing civilians including children. One need only think of the abomination, one of many, confirmed by Israeli troops themselves, of the Gazan mother and her two children, cut down in the coldest of cold blood, for walking in the wrong direction when directed by Israeli troops. That no-one has been, and never will be, held to account for this Hitlerite crime, says all one needs to know about the reality of Israeli brutality, and no amount of abuse and accusations of 'anti-Semitism', that all purpose smear to silence all criticism, will change that truth. The mentality behind torture has nothing whatsoever to do with obtaining information. The ‘ticking-bomb’ excuse, manufactured by the Zionazi lie factory to justify decades of mass, brutal, torture of tens of thousands of Palestinians, is, of course, utter rubbish. There is absolutely no way in which to know whether information gathered under torture is true, or is just what the torturers want to hear, given up to end the torment. After all Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, after being water-boarded 183 times in one month, confessed to every crime since the Ripper murders. Israel, being the world leader in torture, particularly of Arabs, lent their expertise in sexually humiliating and degrading torture to their Yankee stooges in Iraq. There have been numerous examples of the US torturing people to death in the War of Terror, but this is, after all, the country that practised ‘pump and dump’ in the thousands of cases, in Vietnam.
As most organisations concerned with attempting to rehabilitate torture victims make plain, torture is useless for gaining information. It is used to terrorise a subject population, to recruit informers and traitors and to satisfy the sadistic urges of psychopaths. In all these fields Israel stands unique in the world in the field. Not just does it practise mass torture, not only has it become the leading source of propaganda justifying torture, of untermenschen only, naturally, but its apologists are constantly on the alert to vilify and abuse those who point out this evil record. The logic of the ‘ticking-bomb’ argument to justify torture could just as easily be used to justify torturing a victim’s relatives, neighbours or friends if their tongues have not been sufficiently loosened by being tortured themselves. This sort of behaviour is of course the easier for those who see their lives and those of potential victims, as vastly more important than those of the torture victims. And who can deny that within Israel there are those, particularly within the military and political elite who feel just that way? After all the callous and brutal assaults on Lebanon and Gaza were clearly the work of creatures who have no inhibitions in killing civilians including children. One need only think of the abomination, one of many, confirmed by Israeli troops themselves, of the Gazan mother and her two children, cut down in the coldest of cold blood, for walking in the wrong direction when directed by Israeli troops. That no-one has been, and never will be, held to account for this Hitlerite crime, says all one needs to know about the reality of Israeli brutality, and no amount of abuse and accusations of ‘anti-Semitism’, that all purpose smear to silence all criticism, will change that truth.

]]> By: bozh http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/05/torture-what-torture-we-need-more-torture/#comment-47144 bozh Fri, 29 May 2009 23:10:44 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=8437#comment-47144 Errol, i shld have said that arabs drove the two planes thru the two towers at, what?, 2/3 of the height of the towers. Which may or may have not brought the towers to the ground. To tell you the truth, i am baffled about that atrocity. I am not taking sides because i am very unknowlegable about what dose it take to bring the towers dwn completely. but thanks for your observation Errol, i shld have said that arabs drove the two planes thru the two towers at, what?, 2/3 of the height of the towers.
Which may or may have not brought the towers to the ground. To tell you the truth, i am baffled about that atrocity. I am not taking sides because i am very unknowlegable about what dose it take to bring the towers dwn completely.
but thanks for your observation

]]> By: Erroll http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/05/torture-what-torture-we-need-more-torture/#comment-47143 Erroll Fri, 29 May 2009 22:47:23 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=8437#comment-47143 Actually bozh the facts point out more and more that contrary to what many people believe 19 crazed Arabs from the Middle East did not attack this country. The facts, as books written by respected journalists such as David Ray Griffin, Webster Tarpley, and Barrie Zwicker demonstrate, lean more in the direction of a false-flag operation performed by the Bush administration. At the very least, unlike the 9/11 Commission, an independent body, conducting an open and honest investigation, needs to be organized in order to find out the truth as to what happened on Sept. 11, 2001. Actually bozh the facts point out more and more that contrary to what many people believe 19 crazed Arabs from the Middle East did not attack this country. The facts, as books written by respected journalists such as David Ray Griffin, Webster Tarpley, and Barrie Zwicker demonstrate, lean more in the direction of a false-flag operation performed by the Bush administration. At the very least, unlike the 9/11 Commission, an independent body, conducting an open and honest investigation, needs to be organized in order to find out the truth as to what happened on Sept. 11, 2001.

]]> By: bozh http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/05/torture-what-torture-we-need-more-torture/#comment-47142 bozh Fri, 29 May 2009 22:25:29 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=8437#comment-47142 torturing alien [non]fighters does not bode well for US soldiers. It is probable that only a few afghans eve heard of osama let alone knew about the plot to bring dwn the towers. facts point out that it was arabs who carried out the atrocity and not any iraqi or afghani. the attack on america was the stupidest thing to do. I had no value of whatever kind. As matter of fact, it hurt mostly children. And if that was what these criminals wanted, then double shame on them. tnx torturing alien [non]fighters does not bode well for US soldiers. It is probable that only a few afghans eve heard of osama let alone knew about the plot to bring dwn the towers.

facts point out that it was arabs who carried out the atrocity and not any iraqi or afghani.
the attack on america was the stupidest thing to do. I had no value of whatever kind. As matter of fact, it hurt mostly children. And if that was what these criminals wanted, then double shame on them. tnx

]]> By: David http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/05/torture-what-torture-we-need-more-torture/#comment-47139 David Fri, 29 May 2009 21:15:08 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=8437#comment-47139 Nothin' 'bout witches? If there's evil in this great God-fearin' land of ours, it's caused by the black hearts of them witches, leadin' us good folk astray and such. I say give 'em a quick trial and then burn 'em! Everybody who votes guilty gets a free six-pack after the roastin'. Who's first? Nothin’ ’bout witches?

If there’s evil in this great God-fearin’ land of ours, it’s caused by the black hearts of them witches, leadin’ us good folk astray and such.

I say give ‘em a quick trial and then burn ‘em!

Everybody who votes guilty gets a free six-pack after the roastin’.

Who’s first?

]]> By: HR http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/05/torture-what-torture-we-need-more-torture/#comment-47137 HR Fri, 29 May 2009 20:14:16 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=8437#comment-47137 The sad thing is, though the article is sarcastic, the reality is that millions here support what it describes. After all, it aint like torture is something new here in the land of the ignorant, home of the bullies. The sad thing is, though the article is sarcastic, the reality is that millions here support what it describes. After all, it aint like torture is something new here in the land of the ignorant, home of the bullies.

]]> By: rg the lg http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/05/torture-what-torture-we-need-more-torture/#comment-47123 rg the lg Fri, 29 May 2009 17:04:54 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=8437#comment-47123 Ah Gary ... Did reality strike? No? You mean you are being sarcastic? A sarcastic poet fer gawd's sake. Sadly, here in the cesspool of life, there are actually people who would take action on each and every one of your tongue-in-cheek suggestions. I can hear it now from some of our local pulpits: "Gary Corseri said ... " Power, influence ... that you now may have amongst the very people you do not wish to empower. Such is ... life. I enjoy sarcasm. RG the LG Ah Gary …

Did reality strike?

No? You mean you are being sarcastic? A sarcastic poet fer gawd’s sake.

Sadly, here in the cesspool of life, there are actually people who would take action on each and every one of your tongue-in-cheek suggestions. I can hear it now from some of our local pulpits: “Gary Corseri said … ” Power, influence … that you now may have amongst the very people you do not wish to empower.

Such is … life.

I enjoy sarcasm.

RG the LG

]]> By: Erroll http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/05/torture-what-torture-we-need-more-torture/#comment-47121 Erroll Fri, 29 May 2009 16:33:04 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=8437#comment-47121 A good person to think of torturing would be Dick Cheney. Perhaps someone highly skilled in these methods could get Cheney to disclose what actually happened on Sept. 11, 2001 as so many Americans [and especially liberals] have been so quick to accept the government's version of what supposedly occurred on 9/11/01. A good person to think of torturing would be Dick Cheney. Perhaps someone highly skilled in these methods could get Cheney to disclose what actually happened on Sept. 11, 2001 as so many Americans [and especially liberals] have been so quick to accept the government’s version of what supposedly occurred on 9/11/01.

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