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	<title>Comments on: The Christian Right’s Worldwide Anti-Gay Crusade</title>
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		<title>By: Annie Ladysmith</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/05/the-christian-right%e2%80%99s-worldwide-anti-gay-crusade/#comment-56967</link>
		<dc:creator>Annie Ladysmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 05:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It has been my steady observation that when a society has hit it&#039;s peak ( per capita wealth), and is tumbling headfirst into the pit of decay, there is an increase in homosexual behavior accompanied with a universal disregard for the child, and resulting in an epidemic of sexual child abuse by perverts of all makes and parties.  Condon this behavior AT YOUR OWN PERIL.

And what is this rubbish about Eurpeans and RUSSIANS?????
Like they know what to **** is going on in their shabby little huts, rubbing their hands together so as not to get frostbit!  Yeah! Let me hear what the ******* Russians have to say about ANYTHING!  

O! and Berkowitz, or whatever your name is, you can find some &#039;Christain&#039; to feed to the lions, it&#039;s all the rage, and there&#039;s plenty of feeble-minded ones to victimize, but in the end, that is what you are doing, finding a scapegoat to vilify, and thereby justify, your own little grubby, near-sighted belief-system.  You are a big Ashzenazi ZERO!  Why don&#039;t you move to Moscow I understand they do a lot of homo porn there, it&#039;ll be right up your alley.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It has been my steady observation that when a society has hit it&#8217;s peak ( per capita wealth), and is tumbling headfirst into the pit of decay, there is an increase in homosexual behavior accompanied with a universal disregard for the child, and resulting in an epidemic of sexual child abuse by perverts of all makes and parties.  Condon this behavior AT YOUR OWN PERIL.</p>
<p>And what is this rubbish about Eurpeans and RUSSIANS?????<br />
Like they know what to **** is going on in their shabby little huts, rubbing their hands together so as not to get frostbit!  Yeah! Let me hear what the ******* Russians have to say about ANYTHING!  </p>
<p>O! and Berkowitz, or whatever your name is, you can find some &#8216;Christain&#8217; to feed to the lions, it&#8217;s all the rage, and there&#8217;s plenty of feeble-minded ones to victimize, but in the end, that is what you are doing, finding a scapegoat to vilify, and thereby justify, your own little grubby, near-sighted belief-system.  You are a big Ashzenazi ZERO!  Why don&#8217;t you move to Moscow I understand they do a lot of homo porn there, it&#8217;ll be right up your alley.</p>
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		<title>By: Jose Nungaray</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/05/the-christian-right%e2%80%99s-worldwide-anti-gay-crusade/#comment-56952</link>
		<dc:creator>Jose Nungaray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jesus came to this planet to save the lost. The Faith belongs to him. The gospel is his good news, not  the church&#039;s. The job of  every true christian is to preach the good news of Jesus Christ. Jesus died,  not the church. Jesus saves , not the church. Jesus forgives not the church. Jesus is the living Son of God . He is the only and true Messiah. So, let the church preach and Jesus will come to the rescue. Obey His commanment, &quot;love one another with the love of God the Father&quot;.   Sincerely, Jose Nungaray</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jesus came to this planet to save the lost. The Faith belongs to him. The gospel is his good news, not  the church&#8217;s. The job of  every true christian is to preach the good news of Jesus Christ. Jesus died,  not the church. Jesus saves , not the church. Jesus forgives not the church. Jesus is the living Son of God . He is the only and true Messiah. So, let the church preach and Jesus will come to the rescue. Obey His commanment, &#8220;love one another with the love of God the Father&#8221;.   Sincerely, Jose Nungaray</p>
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		<title>By: cblood</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/05/the-christian-right%e2%80%99s-worldwide-anti-gay-crusade/#comment-46754</link>
		<dc:creator>cblood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 21:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah a lot of nazis were gay (mostly closeted) and so are a lot of high up republicans. kind of weird to think about. doesn&#039;t mean that homosexuality should be illegal or that christian groups should spend money sending anti-gay speakers to africa instead of for food and medicine for them.

hilter was also a health food nut. so what.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah a lot of nazis were gay (mostly closeted) and so are a lot of high up republicans. kind of weird to think about. doesn&#8217;t mean that homosexuality should be illegal or that christian groups should spend money sending anti-gay speakers to africa instead of for food and medicine for them.</p>
<p>hilter was also a health food nut. so what.</p>
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		<title>By: John J. Coghlan</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/05/the-christian-right%e2%80%99s-worldwide-anti-gay-crusade/#comment-45482</link>
		<dc:creator>John J. Coghlan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 04:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Homosexuals don&#039;t need to be cured, because they don&#039;t have a disease. Some forms of ignorance and bigotry are a disease, and they are contagious. The uneducated, and the young are the most susceptible. Children should be kept away from the Christian Fundamentalists, because these people are intent on robing them of their minds.

 They seem to have a need to put a face on evil so that they can rally together and defeat it. Yesterday the devil was Godless Communism that was intent on taking over the world. Today their new boggy man is the gays.   

  You can&#039;t talk to these people because their ramblings defy all logic. They go on, and on about subjects that they have no knowledge about. They think they know everything about sexuality from a few lines in the bible, and from the opinions of other uninformed people in their flock. They dismiss, or will not even look at mountains scientific studies and research which has been done over many years. If you try to show them this, they will float off into their little fantasy world. They will start cursing, condemning, chastising, and thumping on their little bible.  

 Homosexuality is a state of being for some people, not a membership in a  club. In proportion to the population, their are not any more gay people in the world than their ever were at any time in history. Their numbers are not going to increase at all, due to civil rights or marriage rights legislation. Pedophilia, and homosexuality are two different things. Modest sexual activity, celibacy, and promiscuity are human variables which exist in all groups of people. Recent revelations of Christian Fundamentalists leaders being caught with their pants down in brothels, and public men&#039;s rooms show that the faithful have their flings as well.

Love and respect for one another is what is important, not who we love or how we love. Exclusion, mistrust, and hate are not Christian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Homosexuals don&#8217;t need to be cured, because they don&#8217;t have a disease. Some forms of ignorance and bigotry are a disease, and they are contagious. The uneducated, and the young are the most susceptible. Children should be kept away from the Christian Fundamentalists, because these people are intent on robing them of their minds.</p>
<p> They seem to have a need to put a face on evil so that they can rally together and defeat it. Yesterday the devil was Godless Communism that was intent on taking over the world. Today their new boggy man is the gays.   </p>
<p>  You can&#8217;t talk to these people because their ramblings defy all logic. They go on, and on about subjects that they have no knowledge about. They think they know everything about sexuality from a few lines in the bible, and from the opinions of other uninformed people in their flock. They dismiss, or will not even look at mountains scientific studies and research which has been done over many years. If you try to show them this, they will float off into their little fantasy world. They will start cursing, condemning, chastising, and thumping on their little bible.  </p>
<p> Homosexuality is a state of being for some people, not a membership in a  club. In proportion to the population, their are not any more gay people in the world than their ever were at any time in history. Their numbers are not going to increase at all, due to civil rights or marriage rights legislation. Pedophilia, and homosexuality are two different things. Modest sexual activity, celibacy, and promiscuity are human variables which exist in all groups of people. Recent revelations of Christian Fundamentalists leaders being caught with their pants down in brothels, and public men&#8217;s rooms show that the faithful have their flings as well.</p>
<p>Love and respect for one another is what is important, not who we love or how we love. Exclusion, mistrust, and hate are not Christian.</p>
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		<title>By: earthling</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/05/the-christian-right%e2%80%99s-worldwide-anti-gay-crusade/#comment-45462</link>
		<dc:creator>earthling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 22:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Monkismo&#039;s words are truer than any revelation from any god.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Monkismo&#8217;s words are truer than any revelation from any god.</p>
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		<title>By: Monkismo</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/05/the-christian-right%e2%80%99s-worldwide-anti-gay-crusade/#comment-45326</link>
		<dc:creator>Monkismo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 07:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And your historical revisionism is an exercise in denial, like that of other Christian conservatives who call Hitler an atheist or an occultist, and link evolutionary theory to his atrocities. 

Hitler was an outspoken Christian who declared that he was doing God&#039;s work, even in reference to his genocide against the Jews, which was just the worst incarnation of the Christian anti-Semitism that had permeated European society for hundreds of years.  Nazi troops wore belt buckles that proclaimed &quot;Gott Mit Uns&quot; (God is With Us).  Hitler was photographed going to Church, praying, and meeting with church leaders.  High church officials were photographed giving the Nazi salute while wearing their vestal robes.   The truth must hurt, but it is what it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And your historical revisionism is an exercise in denial, like that of other Christian conservatives who call Hitler an atheist or an occultist, and link evolutionary theory to his atrocities. </p>
<p>Hitler was an outspoken Christian who declared that he was doing God&#8217;s work, even in reference to his genocide against the Jews, which was just the worst incarnation of the Christian anti-Semitism that had permeated European society for hundreds of years.  Nazi troops wore belt buckles that proclaimed &#8220;Gott Mit Uns&#8221; (God is With Us).  Hitler was photographed going to Church, praying, and meeting with church leaders.  High church officials were photographed giving the Nazi salute while wearing their vestal robes.   The truth must hurt, but it is what it is.</p>
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		<title>By: Monkismo</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/05/the-christian-right%e2%80%99s-worldwide-anti-gay-crusade/#comment-45325</link>
		<dc:creator>Monkismo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 07:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Lively--

Most of the child abuse that takes place is committed by self-proclaimed religious conservative heterosexuals like yourself.  Religious nonsense doesn&#039;t prevent the Southern Baptists from having the highest divorce rate in the country, nor does a high per capita rate of church attendance keep the poor from having half their children out of wedlock.  

The same Old Testament in the same Bible you base your bigotry on was also used to deny human rights to blacks and to deny rights to women.  Do you believe those forms of social progress were also wrong because they violated &quot;God&#039;s will&quot; as state in the &quot;revealed Word of God?&quot;  

The same Old Testament in the same Bible which you think gives you authority to judge homosexuality endorsed a man selling his own daughter into slavery and a believer killing his own family members for challenging his faith.  Are these moral tenets which you also believe should be forced on our society?  

As a straight and happily married man myself, I think the reason gay marriage and homosexuality are so threatening to the religious right is that they prove that marriage can be about love between two equals, instead of the loveless business arrangements and breeding agreements that many religious marriages are.  It reveals the empty marriages of gold-diggers and misogynists for what they are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Lively&#8211;</p>
<p>Most of the child abuse that takes place is committed by self-proclaimed religious conservative heterosexuals like yourself.  Religious nonsense doesn&#8217;t prevent the Southern Baptists from having the highest divorce rate in the country, nor does a high per capita rate of church attendance keep the poor from having half their children out of wedlock.  </p>
<p>The same Old Testament in the same Bible you base your bigotry on was also used to deny human rights to blacks and to deny rights to women.  Do you believe those forms of social progress were also wrong because they violated &#8220;God&#8217;s will&#8221; as state in the &#8220;revealed Word of God?&#8221;  </p>
<p>The same Old Testament in the same Bible which you think gives you authority to judge homosexuality endorsed a man selling his own daughter into slavery and a believer killing his own family members for challenging his faith.  Are these moral tenets which you also believe should be forced on our society?  </p>
<p>As a straight and happily married man myself, I think the reason gay marriage and homosexuality are so threatening to the religious right is that they prove that marriage can be about love between two equals, instead of the loveless business arrangements and breeding agreements that many religious marriages are.  It reveals the empty marriages of gold-diggers and misogynists for what they are.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Lively</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/05/the-christian-right%e2%80%99s-worldwide-anti-gay-crusade/#comment-45301</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Lively</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 00:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is Scott Lively.  I won&#039;t address the several inaccuracies I spotted skimming through this piece.  My only point is this: if The Pink Swastika is so filled with &quot;easily provable false defamations&quot; why won&#039;t the SPLC, or any other apologists for the &quot;gay&quot; agenda debate me on the topic?  I&#039;ve offered a standing challenge to publicly debate the allegations of the book since the first edition was published in 1995.  They won&#039;t because they can&#039;t counter the weight and magnitude of my documentation: more than 25% of which is from &quot;gay&quot; writers and historians and most of the rest from unimpeachable mainsteam sources, including many who lived through the Nazi era and several who knew Hitler and his homosexual buddies personally.  

Btw, the book, which is co-authored by Orthodox Jewish researcher Kevin Abrams,  says very little about the Holocaust, none of it &quot;revisionist.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is Scott Lively.  I won&#8217;t address the several inaccuracies I spotted skimming through this piece.  My only point is this: if The Pink Swastika is so filled with &#8220;easily provable false defamations&#8221; why won&#8217;t the SPLC, or any other apologists for the &#8220;gay&#8221; agenda debate me on the topic?  I&#8217;ve offered a standing challenge to publicly debate the allegations of the book since the first edition was published in 1995.  They won&#8217;t because they can&#8217;t counter the weight and magnitude of my documentation: more than 25% of which is from &#8220;gay&#8221; writers and historians and most of the rest from unimpeachable mainsteam sources, including many who lived through the Nazi era and several who knew Hitler and his homosexual buddies personally.  </p>
<p>Btw, the book, which is co-authored by Orthodox Jewish researcher Kevin Abrams,  says very little about the Holocaust, none of it &#8220;revisionist.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Yanaar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yanaar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 23:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, they&#039;ve got a big job.  Homosexuality is here to stay, and that these folks want legal unions is pretty darn clear.  I don&#039;t think they&#039;re going to &quot;just go away&quot; to suit the Christian right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, they&#8217;ve got a big job.  Homosexuality is here to stay, and that these folks want legal unions is pretty darn clear.  I don&#8217;t think they&#8217;re going to &#8220;just go away&#8221; to suit the Christian right.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Kenny</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/05/the-christian-right%e2%80%99s-worldwide-anti-gay-crusade/#comment-45281</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Kenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 18:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People in Europe don&#039;t foam and froth about sex like Americans do and, indeed, Europeans generally regard Americans as sex-obsessed maniacs. That probably was what amused the Novosibirsk audience: the absurdity of this solemn-faced American huffing and puffing about such a ridiculous subject. Essentially, they were laughing at Lively! And, of course, the more he talks about &quot;Russian-speaking countries&quot;, the more people will laugh at him.

Don&#039;t lose sight, either, of the fact that all these countries are members of the Council of Europe and, as such, parties to the European Convention on Human Rights and subject to the compulsory jurisdiction of the European Court of Human Rights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People in Europe don&#8217;t foam and froth about sex like Americans do and, indeed, Europeans generally regard Americans as sex-obsessed maniacs. That probably was what amused the Novosibirsk audience: the absurdity of this solemn-faced American huffing and puffing about such a ridiculous subject. Essentially, they were laughing at Lively! And, of course, the more he talks about &#8220;Russian-speaking countries&#8221;, the more people will laugh at him.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t lose sight, either, of the fact that all these countries are members of the Council of Europe and, as such, parties to the European Convention on Human Rights and subject to the compulsory jurisdiction of the European Court of Human Rights.</p>
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