Comments on: Spying in the UK: GCHQ Awards Lockheed Martin £200m Contract, Promises to “Master the Internet” http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/05/spying-in-the-uk-gchq-awards-lockheed-martin-200m-contract-promises-to-master-the-internet/ a radical newsletter in the struggle for peace and social justice Mon, 23 Nov 2009 01:40:38 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: simuvac http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/05/spying-in-the-uk-gchq-awards-lockheed-martin-200m-contract-promises-to-master-the-internet/#comment-45466 simuvac Fri, 08 May 2009 23:35:57 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=8092#comment-45466 Thanks, Tom. I hope you collect these columns in the form of a book soon. There's always such a dense configuration of research in your articles. At least someone is connecting the dots. Thanks, Tom. I hope you collect these columns in the form of a book soon. There’s always such a dense configuration of research in your articles. At least someone is connecting the dots.

]]> By: Tom Burghardt http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/05/spying-in-the-uk-gchq-awards-lockheed-martin-200m-contract-promises-to-master-the-internet/#comment-45452 Tom Burghardt Fri, 08 May 2009 20:54:12 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=8092#comment-45452 Thanks for the comments Michael, they're appreciated. As to the first part: Bamford makes this very point in The Shadow Factory, quoting Borges' Library of Babel for emphasis. The second part of you're comment is well-taken. I had in mind the 12 Pakistani students recently arrested in Manchester on bogus terror charges; no doubt their communications were monitored (though I can't prove it), so I left it at that, with a general rhetorical swipe at GCHQ. Your point is well-taken. Thanks for the comments Michael, they’re appreciated.

As to the first part: Bamford makes this very point in The Shadow Factory, quoting Borges’ Library of Babel for emphasis.

The second part of you’re comment is well-taken. I had in mind the 12 Pakistani students recently arrested in Manchester on bogus terror charges; no doubt their communications were monitored (though I can’t prove it), so I left it at that, with a general rhetorical swipe at GCHQ.

Your point is well-taken.

]]> By: Michael Kenny http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/05/spying-in-the-uk-gchq-awards-lockheed-martin-200m-contract-promises-to-master-the-internet/#comment-45440 Michael Kenny Fri, 08 May 2009 17:44:42 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=8092#comment-45440 The silver lining in all of this is that the intelligence services are buried under a mass of data that they could never hope to sift, even if they had the linguistic capacity to do so, which, most of the time, they don't. Thus, the greater the mass, the more ineffective the spying. Also, I wouldn't exaggerate the "countless" victims. There has been nothing at all in the British media about "victims", who would normally scream very loudly if they had something to scream about. The silver lining in all of this is that the intelligence services are buried under a mass of data that they could never hope to sift, even if they had the linguistic capacity to do so, which, most of the time, they don’t. Thus, the greater the mass, the more ineffective the spying. Also, I wouldn’t exaggerate the “countless” victims. There has been nothing at all in the British media about “victims”, who would normally scream very loudly if they had something to scream about.

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