Comments on: Beyond Obama’s Rhetoric

By: Angie Tibbs

Angie Tibbs — Thu, 28 May 2009 03:48:10 +0000

I am relieved that someone is paying attention.

An excellent article, Mr. Petersen. It’s important that hypocrisy be noted and highlighted, and these comments by Obama give hypocrisy a new meaning. .

Meanwhile, the US client state, Israel, in its self-absorbed fashion, whines that Iran, which has no nuclear weapons, must be bombed. If any other country were threatening to bomb a neighour state (or any state), the US and the UN would be in an uproar. Sick double standards.

By: bozh

bozh — Wed, 27 May 2009 18:09:17 +0000

don,
the gangs, or the biggest and strongest one, that of US, just might be reckless enough to destroy much or all biota on our orb.
so, you are right about gangs not inheriting anything.
i left out global warming on purpose. It is to depressing and may turn the readers off?/!!
we want to leave some hope for future generations, who wld, if enlightened, know what needs to be done to end mental slavery. tnx

By: ron ridenour

ron ridenour — Wed, 27 May 2009 16:22:37 +0000

Kim,
Great analysis-commentary. I wish revealing US hypocrisy could reach out to the working class. Now in this time of global economic-planetary crisis is just the moment Marx saw as soil for revolutionary consciousness necessary for revolutionary (anti-capitalist) struggle.
Where the fuck is the working class?
Ron

By: Don Hawkins

Don Hawkins — Wed, 27 May 2009 13:38:02 +0000

US, methinks, cannot do it alone; it must have all or most gangs onside in order to possess the entire planet and inner/outer space. I fail to see how these gangs are going to posses anything. It seems to me you need a planet to live on a planet that can support life and for the Earth the home planet that is coming to an end and twenty years from now still life but life headed South to the happy hunting grounds and the life still here headed North if they can. It’s kind of easy to see. These gangs do they have a secret we don’t know about or some hidden knowledge unknown to us. I think not. These gangs seem to have gone to school and quit at the sixth grade and of course the people who went on to higher learning just keep saying to themselves as they scratch there heads there is something wrong with these people. So what do these gangs have the most of bullshit lot’s of bullshit. A magical place the Earth. Did I look at this in to simple of a way?

By: bozh

bozh — Wed, 27 May 2009 12:50:13 +0000

US, methinks, cannot do it alone; it must have all or most gangs onside in order to possess the entire planet and inner/outer space.
nations and empires have been ruled by gangsters; most and prhaps all are even today ruled by gangs.
most of these gangs are now united like never before. How they behave towards palestine, afpak, syria, iran, korea, iraq, sudan, somalia proves that the gangsters are united.

they don’t wage wars against one another any longer; they pick on small/weak lands and on dysfunctional empires; selves set up by other evil empires.
all gangs behave the same or similar; thus, US gang is no worse than the gang in india or france.
US gang’s crimes are the largest only because it is the largest and most powerful gang and not because its traits.

it also seems to me that gangs’ subjects behave same or similarly. In US, the gang obtains the greatest % of adherents only because US had used the best methodology to miseducate and disinform.
US pop had not yet gone thru a war to feel angst and pain as many other people have.
this is another + for amer model of persuasion. tnx bozhidar balkas, vancouver

By: Don Hawkins

Don Hawkins — Wed, 27 May 2009 11:35:29 +0000

It marginalises or destroys the co-operative, the generous, the empathic. Yes it does Mulga but not all of us. How it can be achieved without world war, is beyond me. Let’s say that a different way and that is the war the World the Earth is going to show us human’s. The ocean temperatures on this planet by Sept, Oct, Nov a tad bit warm. It is sad to watch this as still time to slow this down. Here in the States the next few months just more illusion not even a band aid just illusion. The climate change bill by the time it get’s out of the Senate if it does will be a joke a sick joke. Maybe the thinking is wait until we see major weather events then try probably the wrong approach even if that is the thinking. Let’s see what this summer and winter show us as this little problem is well underway. I was born on the planet Earth born on the planet Earth. So far with what we know hard to be born anyplace else. I have to admit sometimes I feel like I am from another World it helps a little.

By: Mulga Mumblebrain

Mulga Mumblebrain — Wed, 27 May 2009 07:48:46 +0000

The reason the US is such a great evil, incomparably the greatest in human history, is that its hereditary ruling class is insane and wicked, and the vast bulk of the US populace too dull, uninterested, brainwashed and stupified by layers of adipose gained through steady ingestion of junk food, to do anything about it. Any population that feels, as it is plain that the average chauvinistic and jingoistic ‘Joe Six-Pack’( not a reference, plainly, to abdominal musculature)that being ‘born in the USA’ confers some type of distinction, has lost the plot already. US malignancy possesses its peculiar character, I believe, because it is capitalist malevolence. Capitalism not only overthrows all pre-existing social structures, and undermines the very fabric of life-sustainability on the planet, but it also twists and distorts the human psyche and social relations. Capitalism favours the ruthless, greedy and unprincipled. It marginalises or destroys the co-operative, the generous, the empathic. An unnatural selection is at work, guaranteeing survival of the fittest, in capitalist terms. And those most fit for capitalism are the greedy, egotistical and those indifferent to the fate of others. In other words, the psychopaths. One need only read the descriptions of bloody-thirsty lynch-mobs, the massacres at My Lai, or the thriving market in ‘death-porn’ undertaken by US troops in Iraq and Afghanistan, utilising their technological superiority in video imaging to collect souvenirs of their victims’ decapitations and eviscerations, to know that this is a society besotted with death and killing. Apparently the US military see the increasing use of drones to prosecute the mass killing of civilians in Afghanistan and Pakistan as intimidating and certain to demoralise the ‘enemy’. On the other hand the victims, or their surviving relatives and neighbours, not having been rendered morally insane by market capitalism, see the drones as sign of American cowardice, and who can but concur?
North Korea has already been devastated and levelled once by the US thanatomaniacs, with millions killed. The Judeocide apparently allows Israel to arm itself with nuclear weapons, but on the other hand, the Koreans, not owning the US political and media systems, although suffering a comparable death-toll, and being little, yellow, untermenschen, enjoy no such right. The sooner the Yankee Moloch is brought low, the better for the rest of the planet, although how it can be achieved without world war, is beyond me.

By: Max Shields

Max Shields — Wed, 27 May 2009 02:13:26 +0000

RG the LG while you have idenitified the enemy, it begs the question: are we a species apart? Or are we simply a radical version of what happens when human drives are magnified?

We can’t escape from what we are, but we can find the best and continue toward the light…otherwise why, to quote Beckett, go on.

By: rg the lg

rg the lg — Wed, 27 May 2009 01:28:34 +0000

Of course Obama said what Obama said.
US would have it NO other way.
The crime of George the Wth was NOT in being bellicose … it was in sounding bellicose. We live in a hologram … in an unreal myth … not one that has been foist upon us … but rather one that US want to believe. US want to believe US are a peaceful nation … that US either go to war because US were lied to, or because US were forced to defend ourselves.
US believe that US pollute the planet because ‘industry’ does not provide an alternative.
THAT is NOT true. US have been a warlike nation back to our roots in Europe. WUS murdered Indians, US invaded Mexico, US enter other (usually small) countries when they do not do our bidding. US have always used our military as a tool of diplomacy.
US do not wish to believe that … US want to pretend US are the good guys.
US aren’t …
US get what US want … softer rhetoric, but the same bellicose policy.
I call myself a redneck with leftist tendencies … but I am not truly on the left … because the left actually thinks that US is about peace.
Bull.
The sins of Iran, of Cuba, of Venezuela is NOT that they have arms … but that they didn’t buy them from US. The sins of other nations is not that they are warlike, but that they do not do our bidding. As individuals, US like to pretend US are the good guys. US are not … US are militaristic … US believe that the role of government is to protect wealth (called property in the constitution) and thus that there is no difference between government and business. That was called fascism … and US are, thus fascists, but US don’t want to call ourselves that … US prefer to call ourselves small d democrats … believers in world peace … so long as it is according to our rules.
So, Obama is doing what US wants … the we of US … North Korea sinned not because it wanted nukes … but rather because it wanted nukes when US said they shouldn’t have them. As Bush said, and as Obama says, US are the deciders.

RG the LG

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To the didactic: yes, I used US instead of we … because, whether YOU want to believe it or not it is YOU that is part of the problem. That YOU coupled with I is thus: US.

By: beverly

beverly — Wed, 27 May 2009 00:19:51 +0000

Interesting. The US attacks Iraq based on lies about WMDs. It keeps trying to pick a fight with Iran based on more lies about Iran’s nuclear program. North Korea has nukes and has continued to test and launch nuclear weapons but the only thing the US dares do is to issue statements condemning NorthKorea. I guess the stars and stripes powers that be aren’t as foolhardy as I thought. North Korea doesn’t give a shit and it will go off on the US and anyone else who crosses them. Let’s hope the US “brain trust” keeps this in mind and limits US actions to simple imperialist trash talk. I don’t think North Korea is a country to f%*k with.

By: lichen

lichen — Tue, 26 May 2009 21:43:46 +0000

Yes, the US is a failed nation; a rogue state; an extreme threat to the rest of the world, and should have harsh sanctions imposed against it; should be forced to give up both its nuclear weapons and energy programs, release its political prisoners, abolish the CIA, and hand over war criminals such as the bushs, obamas, clintons, rices, powells, yoo’s and many others to international courts.

By: Rick Dune

Rick Dune — Tue, 26 May 2009 20:16:53 +0000

“North Korea’s actions endanger the people of Northeast Asia, they are a blatant violation of international law.” Huh? I can’t believe he said that with a straight face.

By: bozh

bozh — Tue, 26 May 2009 18:02:05 +0000

are nations gambling on their own security and peace of mind by not developing wmd? Or are they more cautious than that and, ergo, bought or manufactured one or two Ns; just in case s’mthing happens.
it wld be nice to know! But most lands are numb about it; they’d rather speak softly while holding a fat stick?
is that it?
one can bet on me that if i had been an iranian, afghani, japanese, venzuellan, i’d move even mountains let alone dug tunnels in order to acquire what works the best.
that, dear people, is the only language the US gangsters understand.
and if hebrews cld part the red sea [mind u, not yet dead sea or canaan]
i cld with help from my god even split the earth in at least three pieces.
israel wld be gone to a nebulous nebula; and US? Well, i love amers too much to boot them that far; may be i’d keep them! tnx balkas vancouver