WW II would never had occurred if not for the Versailles Treaty.

I totally agree WWII was stupid, if France had stood up to the Germans when they marched into the Saar none of this would have happened. That is how it goes when you fail to stand up to evil.

As for Poland, not being a country until 1919 I just wanted to point out that it was a country and an important one. Just because a country is conquered does not mean that it is gone. If that were the case then Europe would be German to this day. The poles never stopped being polish.

Another example is that there was no country of Ireland for almost 700 years yet Ireland is back and seems to be doing well,

Nothing you said contradicted what I said. Poland had not been a country since the 1700′s. When it was re-created in 1919 a huge amount of German territory along the Baltic coast was taken from Germany to give Poland access to the sea. This area became known as the “Polish Corridor” and separated one part of Germany from East Prussia (holding millions of Germans), the other part. The “Polish Corridor” held Danzig (now Gdansk) which was 90% German nestled within it.

No nation would tolerate that being done to them and Britain, France (and later the USA) did not come to Poland’s aid because they loved Poles. Their goal was to weaken or destroy Germany . At that time Germany was the leading nation in science and engineering with a military that could only be matched by an alliance of the other world powers.

If the allies loved Poland so much, they would have attacked the Soviet Union too. Instead they gave all of eastern Europe to the Soviet Union in 1945. I wonder what the USA would do if Mexico attacked to claim California, Arizona and a large part of Texas which were all a part of Mexico in the 1800′s. Germany has a far greater right to the lands taken from her (that held millions of Germans) than the US has to the land it stole. Many of those areas taken from Germany were German going back to the middle ages.

To sum up why World War II occurred I can cite my own family as an example. My mother was born in a city called Memel, which was a German city founded by the Teutonic Knights in the thirteenth century. Memel is east of Poland and was the eastern most city of the German empire. After WW I, Memel was taken from Germany and given to Lithuania. Not far from Memel is Konigsberg and the rest of east Prussia where my family also had a home. Lying between east Prussia and the rest of Germany was the “Polish Corridor”, the land taken from Germany and given to Poland in 1919. After WW I my family moved to a city called Brieg (now called Brzeg), on the other side of the “Polish Corridor”. The allies had already taken my familiy’s home in Memel, but after WW II the Soviet Union stole all of east Prussia and took the home my family had near Konigsberg ( I visited there last year July 2008). Brieg was taken by Poland (or given to Poland) at the end of WW II so my family lost the home my mother grew up in too. To sum it up, my family’s three homes that were all part of Germany were stolen and given to three different countries. Memel was given to Lithuania and renamed Klaipeda, Konigsberg and east Prussia was renamed Kaliningrad and taken by the Soviet Union, Brieg was given to Poland and renamed Brzeg.

To make sure the Germans never claimed these lands again (many of which were founded by Germans and whose families had lived there going back as far as the thirteenth century), the allies agreed that all Germans would be driven out of the eastern third of Germany. Fourteen million Germans were driven from there homes and forced to move west in the biggest migration of people in history (1945-1947). Millions were murdered on the way. This is similar to how Israel drove the Palestinians from their land, but on a much, much larger scale and the Israelis did not kill millions of civilians (as was done to the Germans).

Germany is in the unfortunate position of being in the center of Europe, bordered by many countries and at the same time it was a superpower. The allies did not care about justice.

By the way, as extremist as Hitler was, he did not even demand all of the stolen German territory back from Poland. He wanted Poland to remain a country. Poland would not give one inch and would not even give Danzig (90% German population) back to Germany. Read Patrick Buchanan’s “Churchill, Hitler and the Unnecessary War”.

From “Churchill, Hitler and the Unnecessary War” page 245 – “Hitler invited (Poland’s foreign minister) Beck to Berchtesgaden on January 5, 1939…. Hitler explained that if Danzig was returned, it could remain under Polish economic control. He impressed on Beck that a connection ‘with East Prussia was a vital matter for the Reich as the connection with the sea was for Poland.’”. Buchanan then quotes British historian Basil Liddel Hart who says “on Hitler’s part it was a remarkably moderate demand” Buchanan says quote “But, again Beck rebuffed Hitler. Hitler offered to guarantee Poland’s borders and accept permanent Polish control of the Corridor, if Beck would simply agree to the return of Danzig and the construction of a German rail and road route across the Corridor. Beck again refused” . Hitler was appeasing Poland and willing to give up the Polish Corridor to Poland. Hitler tried again a few days before before Germany attacked Poland in September 1939.

nevertheless, we were until that time and the siege of vienna in late 17th century losing war after war and territory. Hungary entirely disappeared.
vienna nearly fell. It had been polish duke, sobiecki, who broke turkish siege of vienna.
from that time on we began to push turks out of europe. tnx

Iranian Kurds are openly helping Israel and US to undermine the region, especially in Iraq, Iran, Turkey and Syria and have turned north of Iraq into a spy network for decades and allowed Israeli to buy land in North of Iraq and like the Zionists have forced other groups such as Christians, Turkmen, Arabs out of sensitive area with oil reserves to claim is ‘Kurdish city’ where have been faced with strong opposition.
Israel hopes to break Iran into many non-Arab states to help her agenda, ‘the greater Israel’, bringing oil from north of Iraq, Kurdistan, to Israel to expand her influence in the region on expenses of others. We must know that NO STATE IN THE REGION INCLUDING GREECE AND TURKEY VOTED FOR PARTITION OF PALESTINE. The Kurds must change the course; otherwise they will go down the tube with their master, the Zionist racist and terrorists. ISRAEL HAS NO RIGHT TO EXIST.
You are right when you say Iran should use the same technique on her enemy and Iranians and Arabs must be united against the common enemies in the region. Iran is trying hard to achieve this goal but you should realize that majority of Arab head of States are in the pocket of Israel and the US. On the other hand majority of Arab people are supporting Iran, that’s why the reactionaries in Arab capital are working as servants with Israel and US against Hezbollah, Hamas, Palestinians, Syrians and recently Qatar to undermine Iran.
I am asking all countries who have been targeted for destabilization and control by the US, regardless of ethnic or religious background be united against the common enemy, the US and Israel. Iran and other country must do the same and work towards destabilization and partition of the United States and fund the dissidents to undermine these governments. We will witness in NO TIME the United States in pieces. For sure, half of the country will go back to legitimate owner, Mexico, and the rest to the indigenous population and those groups who want to cooperate with them.
Down with Zionism and imperialism, the enemy of humanity.

Background:
Poland is an ancient nation that was conceived near the middle of the 10th century. Its golden age occurred in the 16th century. During the following century, the strengthening of the gentry and internal disorders weakened the nation. In a series of agreements between 1772 and 1795, Russia, Prussia, and Austria partitioned Poland amongst themselves. Poland regained its independence in 1918 only to be overrun by Germany and the Soviet Union in World War II. It became a Soviet satellite state following the war, but its government was comparatively tolerant and progressive. Labor turmoil in 1980 led to the formation of the independent trade union “Solidarity” that over time became a political force and by 1990 had swept parliamentary elections and the presidency. A “shock therapy” program during the early 1990s enabled the country to transform its economy into one of the most robust in Central Europe, but Poland still faces the lingering challenges of high unemployment, underdeveloped and dilapidated infrastructure, and a poor rural underclass. Solidarity suffered a major defeat in the 2001 parliamentary elections when it failed to elect a single deputy to the lower house of Parliament, and the new leaders of the Solidarity Trade Union subsequently pledged to reduce the Trade Union’s political role. Poland joined NATO in 1999 and the European Union in 2004. With its transformation to a democratic, market-oriented country largely completed, Poland is an increasingly active member of Euro-Atlantic organizations.

In relation to the Kurds, they want a state of their own. Thats why, they are a problem for Turkey, Iraq and Iran. Playing an ethnic minority off against their countrymen during a war is an old strategy that can be very effective.

This is what was done during WW I and led directly to WW II. The countries of Czechoslovakia, Poland and Yugooslavia did not exist prior to WW I. They were created in 1919 at the Versailles treaty conference. Czechs live in the areas of Bohemia and Moravia that had always been part of Austria. During WW I the British were whipping up anti-Austrian sentiment. The “founder” of Czechoslovakia, Thomas Masyryk, an Austro-Hungarian empire citizen, was brought to London during WW I to work on the creation of the new state. The area that became Czechoslovakia (made up of Bohemia and Moravia) had always been part of Austria (going back to the middle ages and before) and also had millions of German speaking people in it. 3.5 million Sudeten Germans lived there.

Besides what was done to Austria, Germany, had a small Polish minority. The victorious allies used this as a excuse to take a huge part of Germany’s land away from her and give it to the new country of Poland that they created. These land grabs were done to reduce the military and economic strength of the German speaking world. This is what led to Adolf Hitler becoming Chancellor and then war in 1939, when Hitler became exasperated that Poland would not negotiate over the German speaking parts of Poland. Just a few days before Hitler attacked, he made his last request (or demand) that Poland discuss giving the city of Danzig (now known as Gdansk, a city with a population 90% German) back to Germany. If Germany had not been a superpower at the time, WW II would not have been a world war. It would have been a minor affair and over in a few months, similar to how NATO took Kosovo from Serbia a few years ago. Thats an area that always has been Serbian.

I don’t know enough about the problems between Kurds and Iranians, but I think Iran’s objective should be to incorporate them into Iranian society. If there are laws treating them as lesser citizens (as is often the case with minorities), these laws should be abolished.

I also think The Arabs and Iranians should work together, for God’s sake. Israel has 1.5 million Arabs living within the Israeli borders and these people should be used by Hezbollah, Iran and others opposed to Israel to create havoc in Israel. Imagine the protests that could be organized within Israel itself with 1.5 million Arabs living there.

http://www.reuters.com/article/vcCandidateFeed1/idUSN2727914320090527

I bet you, Bahman Ghobadi, the Iranian film director who claimed Saberi is his fiancé and Saberi’s father has denied it, will soon join the fun to promote his career on Iran’s expense. While he was at the Cannes Festival, he announced that he will not go back to Iran.
The United States and in general the West, through their TOOLS, “Human Rights” organizations support voices and works where can be used against a targeted country. Thus, Iranian film directors, writers, journalists and ‘philosophers’ have all received hundreds of AWARDS where most of the time is not ‘the work’ itself that is awarded rather its propaganda value is cherished to construct a ‘leader’ or ‘spokesperson.’ Tahmineh Miliani’s film, The Hidden Half, a cheap propaganda film with no artistic VALUE received few AWARDS from the Western centers for propaganda purposes to encourage Iranian film makers to make more propaganda films to reach the Western markets to boost their careers and helps their bank account.
The best Iranian film director after the revolution was Mohsen Makhmalbaf who was in Shah’s prison at the time of the revolution. He was set free by the people during the riots and has made number of good films. Since he was pro revolution and Iranian independence, his films were totally ignored by the West. He later turned against the government, but it was too late because the west has chosen Abbas Kiarostami as the face of Iranian Cinema. Later, Makhmalbaf left Iran and settled in France where I have heard he is very depressed. We all remember Jean Renoir, French film director, who made number of good films while in France but the best he produced when he became a US citizen and settled in the United States was a propaganda film against Nazi in World War II, “This land is mine”. He never made a film on French colonies to bring their disastrous situation to the public. He never criticized French barbaric treatment of Arabs in North Africa and elsewhere although he considered himself a ‘socialist’ and a member of the “popular front”, a coalition of communists and socialists who did nothing and everyone wanted to keep the colonies. Shame.
Saberi’s case was taken by DANIEL PIPES, a fifth column Zionist, to promote the propaganda campaign against Iran.

An Afghan who has spent over six years at the U.S. military’s Guantanamo Bay prison was only around 12-years-old when he was detained, not 16 or 17 as his official record says, an Afghan rights group said on Tuesday.
Interviews with the family of Mohammed Jawad, who like many poor Afghans does not know his exact age or birthday, showed he was probably not even a teenager when he was arrested in 2002, the Afghan Independent Human Rights Commission said.
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/LQ954166.htm

Why are they silent on this case?

A taste of Judea

To celebrate the end of the harvest season, the wineries of the Judean Hill region are teaming up for month-long festivities in which they will offer an array of tourist attractions throughout the area.

Stretching from the coastal plain to the foothills of the Jerusalem Mountains, the Judea region is home to a cluster of 25 boutique wineries, some of them the nation’s best. This is the most organized wine region in the country, with its own wine route and where the establishments are marketed as a group. However, most of the wineries are medium-to-small operations without established visitor centers, so the festival events are a great opportunity for both wine connoisseurs and would-be wine lovers to explore some of the area’s most spectacular gems.

The charming setting and unique wine-growing conditions have earned the Judea region a reputation as one of the country’s fine wine-producing regions.

The Judean wine route takes you on an adventure along hillsides and deep valleys with picturesque landscapes and panoramic vistas. This is one of the most scenic routes in the country where visitors can not only travel through forests and vineyards, but sip award-winning wines and enjoy country dining experiences.

During the next three weekends, the different establishments in the area will present a variety of interesting events for the whole family: from horseback riding through the vineyards and bicycle and jeep trails across the hills, to lectures, movies and wine tastings at the different establishments. Festival guests will be able to learn about traditional and modern winemaking and meet the devoted winemakers and vintners of the region.

Highlights

One of the festival highlights is the terroir (soil and climate) workshop conducted by Eran Pik, a winemaker at Tzora winery. The workshop will begin at the winery’s Shoresh vineyard where participants will walk between the different plots and learn about the topography of the vineyard, the soil and the climate, and how it affects the vine. From there the tour will continue to the winery at Kibbutz Tzora where participants will sample some of the estate’s produce accompanied by hors d’oeuvres.

Other attractions include a morning tour of the Kibbutz Tzova vineyards and a visit to Tzova — the region’s youngest winery, followed by a grand brunch at the Tzova Hotel overlooking the Judean hills.

Avi Yehuda, the vintner of Yehuda winery, will host a wine tasting at his small establishment at Moshav Shoresh. Yehuda will talk about the history of winemaking in the area, which dates back to biblical times, and about wines of the new world.

At his winery in Moshav Messilat Zion, Yossi Katz invites the crowds to dance to the sounds of the Sixties and South American music.

Area hotels, including Neveh Ilan, Yad Hashmona, Tzova, Shoresh, Ma’aleh Hahamisha and Neveh Shalom, are offering attractive deals for festival guests

As Paul Craig Roberts wrote:
{The Israel Lobby apparently succeeded in convincing the Obama Justice (sic) Department that it is anti-semitic to accuse two Jewish AIPAC officials, Steven Rosen and Keith Weissman, of spying. The Israel Lobby succeeded in getting their trial delayed for four years, and now Attorney General Eric Holder has dropped charges. Yet, Larry Franklin, the DOD official accused of giving secret material to Rosen and Weissman, is serving 12 years and 7 months in prison.}

Mr. Roberts will be even more surprised when he reads the following statement by Philip Giraldi in an article “Setting a Higher Standard for Making War” on May 26, 2009:

{Israel runs an extremely aggressive espionage program inside the United States involving hundreds of operatives and agents, but the only Israeli spy to be arrested, charged, and imprisoned is Jonathan Pollard, and that was over 20 years ago. Even Larry Franklin, the Pentagon “Iran expert” who spied for Israel because he believed AIPAC would get him a better job on the National Security Council, is not actually in jail in spite of his 12-year sentence. He is reportedly free due to his service as a witness in the recently terminated AIPAC Steve Rosen-Keith Weissman espionage trial.}

We don’t have a perfect world, do we? And we probably never get one, please wake up.

Ahem … According to PUBLIC RECORDS, i.e., according to the records of the Iranian Government’s judiciary branch … (and PUBLIC RECORD means: it is a fact that can be looked up, just as much as the timing of this morning’s sunrise) … in other words, in the words of the very court that decided Saberi’s fate, and this is an IRANIAN court, meaning it is applying Iran’s laws supposedly, according to THEM, the documents that Saberi was holding were NOT classified. End of argument. Wether or not this or that news agency does report this fact is irrelevant.

So, now … is the Iranian judiciary too an imperialist agency, then? I mean, c’mon! They just let a proven super spy, with these super top-secret documents she stole and kept on her for THREE YEARS and didn’t even feel the need to get rid of them or anything (that’s how cocky she was!); they just let this person simply take a walk, for Christ’s sake????!!!

And while we’re on this … How about that Burmese political prisoner, Aung San Suu Kyi? I’m sure you all heard that Secretary of State Clinton has been calling for her immediate release from house- and all other kinds of arrest in Burma. Isn’t she just the right type for an imperialist agent too? I also heard Desmond Tutu calling for Aung San Suu Kyi’s release. Well, he must SURELY by an imperialist stooge!

People who are paying attention and are sincere, surely can see where this false logic goes … (and here I am NOT talking to those ‘commenters’ who get paid by the word by some government to write bizarre fabrications about people).

Thank you for pointing out that Roxana Saberi’s father is Jewish. It is amazing that I have to read this on this blog instead of a mainstream newspaper. While I don’t think its generally appropriate to identify someone’s ethnic or religious background in relation to politics, they’re are situations when a person’s ethnic background could be central to their way of thinking. This is obviously one of those cases.

The most effective spies are people that are recruited to spy against their own country. There are various reasons someone will spy against their own country 1) they are willing to do it for money 2) they do it out of political conviction or 3) they sympathize with a foreign country because they are an ethnic minority.

Miss Saberi falls into category three and unfortunately she has now made the entire Iranian Jewish community potential suspects. Unfortunately she has also given support to the centuries old feelings that Jews are outsiders in their own country and have dual loyalties. Miss Saberi has shown that her loyalties are with Israel. She is a traitor to her country of Iran.

I find it amazing Iran released her. I would not have and if I had eventually released her one day, I guarantee you she would not have had a smile on her face as she did in this case when Iran let her go.