Ordeal in Iran

Reflections on Roxana Saberi

Roxana Saberi, the Iranian-American journalist was the centre of worldwide attention after she was jailed in Iran. She was initially sentenced to six years in jail for ‘spying’, a charge she denied. The term was cut on appeal to a two-year suspended sentence. She only ended up serving four months, mainly due to international outcry over her case. Now that Saberi is out of the limelight, it is important to reflect on the instrumentalities of her ordeal. There are two key issues that should be analyzed; first, the media treatment of her case and second, the distinctiveness of her story. I will address these in order.

Media concentration in developed capitalist societies mean that news corporations have the power to single-handedly decide the news agenda: which event is considered news-worthy, what angle a story should take, who takes the victim or victimizer’s role, who is given a voice… with implications on how people perceive a particular issue.

One of the functions of modern media is the creation of consent for the actions of the state. While it is true that there is space for independent critical voices in the west, journalists share an unspoken consensus on the limits of discourse, often ideologically motivated. The ‘war on terror’ has exposed these processes more clearly:

Corporate news outlets uncritically adopt state discourse on the ‘war on terror’ – none has meaningfully challenged the party line. Words like ‘terrorist’, ’security threat’ or an ‘us’ vs ‘them’ discourse are commonly used in the media. While there is scrutiny of some aspects of the government’s ‘war on terror’, no media outlet vigorously challenges the core paradigm underpinning state action. Even journalists known to be ‘dissenters’, Robert Fisk is one such person, tend to reveal an inherent bias against the ‘other’, the outsiders who should always be perceived as ‘different’ and remain irremediably so (more about benevolent orientalists on a later article).

My point is that the media corporations are part of the parcel of the state’s war machinery. This is pungently illustrated in the case of Iran. As the allied forces begin preparations to decimate yet another sovereign nation on the pretext of their imperialist ambitions, the media has upgraded Iran to ‘news-worthiness’. While we only hear about countries like Nigeria when there is trouble flaring, Iran now became a daily news topic. Fox News for instance created an Iran section on its website. News headlines not only focus on Iran’s alleged ‘nuclear ambitions’ but cover also diverse aspects of Iranian society, politics, culture, and even private life.

There has been a process of re-discovery of Iran, a re-building of perceptions about a country in the eyes of the public. Iran is being reconstructed, re-imagined, and tailored. The Iranian people are being scrutinized, tokenised and instrumentalized. Once in a while, we hear reports of pleas for help from Iran, as if these calls were urging the [western] audience to ‘rescue’ the powerless Iranians. Put together, this ‘Iranization’ of the media is contributing to the building of perceptions about Iran. These images will eventually play into the legitimization of a new war.

Roxana Saberi’s case should be seen within this context. As pointed out by Glenn Greenwald, journalists demonstrated ‘virtually no objections’ to the arrest without charges or trials of journalists by the U.S., a practice which has been a ’staple’ of America’s ‘war on terror’. Al-Jazeera cameraman Sami al-Haj, for example, spent six years in Guananamo, with no charges leveraged against him or right for a fair trial. His case enjoyed very little media coverage, if any. Like al-Haj, other journalists continue imprisoned under U.S. custody, with no legal recourse. Yet, the plight of these journalists was not newsworthy enough. Even the BBC, known for its impartiality (not), made a public plea for Iran to allow access to the journalist – no pleas were forthcoming in regards to journalists imprisoned by Britain and its allies.

My second point in this critique of Roxana Saberi’s ordeal is to question the distinctiveness of her case. Only after Roxana Saberi’s release details of her arrest were made public, helping to put her case into perspective. She spent four months in a prison in Tehran, charged with spying, an act of treason in many, if not all countries. The problem was that during this whole saga, Saberi’s persona became more important than the evidence supporting Iran’s case against her.

It turns out that Saberi was arrested because she had obtained “classified documents”. As reported by the BBC, she secretly obtained a confidential Iranian report on the U.S. war in Iraq – a highly sensitive issue at the moment. According to her lawyer, Saleh Nikbakht, the report was prepared by a research center of the Iranian presidency (i.e., pretty high up). Saberi illegally seized the documents while working as a freelance translator for the Expediency Council, ‘a powerful body in Iran’s ruling clerical hierarchy’.

I am wondering what journalists do when in possession of “classified documents? Yes, you guessed it right, they make them public. Yet, Iran released her. To put this into perspective, I decided to research similar cases in the so-called ‘free world’ in order to find out what happens to those public workers who happen to seize ‘classified documents’. Here’s what I found:

  • Last year, the United States of America jailed for 10 years an Iraqi translator for keeping copies of ‘classified documents’ about the Iraqi insurgency. At least he had the decency of pleading guilty for his charges (not before a dose of torture, perhaps).
  • In 2005, Sandy Berger, a former Clinton aide pleaded guilty for ‘mistakenly’ taking ‘classified documents’ dealing with ‘terror threats’. Under a plea agreement, Berger was ordered to pay a $10 000 fine, surrender his security clearance for three years and cooperate with investigators. There was public outcry because he was not given a jail sentence!

These are only two of the many cases I found – a simple google search makes it clear that this case was not out of the ordinary. Because the protagonists of this staged saga were Iran and a U.S. citizen, this case was tokenized as proof of Iran inherent ‘evilness’ and was granted exceptional status.

My point is not to add or remove anything from Saberi’s plight – who may now follow a career as a well-paid speaker in neo-con circles – but to flag key issues, which will play in people’s minds when justifying the next war.

Ziyaad Lunat is an activist for the rights of Palestinians and of other oppressed peoples. He can be contacted at z.lunat [at] gmail.com. Read other articles by Ziyaad, or visit Ziyaad's website.

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  1. Michael Dawson said on May 22nd, 2009 at 10:37am #

    Nothing about this case justifies any war on Iran. But the guilt or innocence of Saberi is also utterly irrelevant. Iran’s legal system, like all instances of “Islamic law,” is a joke and illegitimate. Any legal system based on arbitrary, closed proceedings is not qualified to try anybody for anything.

  2. Al said on May 22nd, 2009 at 1:18pm #

    Any legal system based on arbitrary, closed proceedings is not qualified to try anybody for anything.

    Describes the American justice system to a T!

  3. RH2 said on May 22nd, 2009 at 1:36pm #

    I know nothing about this Saberi and do not intend to know anything about her. May be she has worked for FoxNews. I only know that if you are not a clregy man and oppose the Iranian regime, you will walk into a dark prison and will very probably not walk out. Nevertheless there is no justification for Imperial meddling in the name of democracy a la USA. Even the Palestinians, kind of Arabs and for whose rights the writer of this article works, are not traditionally friends of human rights. Like other Arabs they kill their own people. Nevertheless there is no justification for the implantation of Zionism in Palestine.

  4. Deadbeat said on May 22nd, 2009 at 1:50pm #

    Nevertheless there is no justification for Imperial meddling in the name of democracy a la USA.

    I agree with RH2 and that is the point of the article which the first two respondents miss. Clearly there is a double-standard being demonstrated here especially by the media regarding how the U.S. treat journalists they suspect of espionage and how the media used the Saberi incident to promote their aim of disparaging the Iranian government to help advance the Zionist agenda of attacking Iran.

  5. Shabnam said on May 22nd, 2009 at 5:52pm #

    Roxana Saberio is guilty as charged but due to intense fight between the “reformist” and the president Ahmadinejad’s camp and his supporter Ayatollah Seyed Ali Khamenei, I think, she was freed in order to silence international pressure which was coming from the western capitals and their phony organizations in name of “HUMAN RIGHTS” to ease the election process of 2009.
    Head of the powerful Expediency Council, Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani, is a very rich businessman who gained his wealth after the revolution through monopoly using his influence in the government. He has the Pistachio business. Iranian pistachio is very famous and is dear among Israelis who cannot stop eating Iranian pistachio. The US government was very angry with Israel who could not stop the entry of Iranian pistachio into the country yet Israel through his agents in the Congress has pushed many sanctions against Iran where American company are the main losers.
    One of Ahmadinejad’s premises was to get rid of corruption in the government and he meant RAFSANJANI. Rafsanjani was badly defeated by Ahmadinejad in the presidential race four years ago. Rafsanjani’s daughter also has been kicked out of the Parliament by Iranians vote number of years ago and her newspaper, on woman, was taken out. This family is not popular among Iranians only the rich, the phony ‘intellectuals’ who are cooperating with “the New Middle East” project. He has connection with center of powers outside the country. Mohammad Khatami, an impotent president, was popular among the reformists and attracted a lot of women to his camp, I guess his smile and long beautiful dresses with good tailoring did the magic, was not successful to implement his social reform policy who he had promised during his campaign but he carried out neoliberal’s economic REFORM meaning privatization according to instruction of the empire’s institutions such as the World Bank and International Monitory Fund causing wider gap between the poor and the rich. He lost many supporters. The ‘reformist’ policy of privatization was very attractive to rich Iranians including Rafsanjani and the west. Rafsanjani who is for ‘democracy’ free market style is working hard with the ‘reformist’ camp to unseat Ahmadinejad in the coming election. Khatami was president for two terms but he again entered the race last month but could not remain in the race long because he was not received well even by the ‘reformists.’ He knows he had no CHANCE to beat Ahmadinejad. Now, the reformists are lined up behind Mir Hossain Mosavi who has been absent from the Iranian politics for the past 20 years.
    Saberi told an appeals court that she obtained the confidential document two years ago while working as a freelance translator for the council. She had admitted to copying the report, she said she did not pass it to the Americans. The question is why is she interested in such a document? How can we trust her when she said she did not pass the document to Americans?
    Thus, Saberi’s case has damaged, I think, Iran’s image due to international politics and political rivalry in Iran, not because she was innocent. Her case was publicized by the Zionist media every day and organizations where are known connected to center of power and are associated with ‘velvet revolution’ and ‘regime change’ were active on her behalf. In addition, the president of the US, Secretary of States and the media outlet like NPR, Fox News, all connected to military and neocons had number of programs on her giving false information to Americans constructing public opinion against Iran at this critical moment. Therefore, she was released to remove some of the pressure due to campaign of lies and deception against Iran and the influence of Rafsanjani’s camp.
    Iran is a targeted country for balkanization and regime change, thus, the government has many reasons to be suspicious of ‘journalists’ and activists of “Human Rights.”

    http://www.emadbaghi.com/en/archives/000921.php

  6. Peter said on May 22nd, 2009 at 9:22pm #

    Its interesting that if I read so called reputable newspapers like The New York Times, The Financial Times, etc., you don’t read that Saberi obtained a classified document (at least I didn’t see it in any of the articles I read). If that information is provided, its worded in such a way that she still appears to be innocent.

    I saw a picture of Saberi after she was released. She had such a big smile on her face, she looked like she just won a trip to Disneyland. That doesn’t fit well with the way the western media likes to portray Iran (we are told its an ultra-religious country of fanatics and terrorists). Contrast Saberi’s picture with the pictures of the detainees at American run Gitmo where the men were tortured, sexually humiliated and God knows what else. Israel holds 10,000 prisoners including some children, but the western media apparently doesn’t think this is important, even though its known that Israel uses torture.

    The western media disgusts me. I think the internet is an outlet for information that the traditional media would never publish. You can also find a lot of garbage on the internet, but the same can be said of the traditional media.

    I hope to see Israel and the USA pay dearly for the constant lies and distortions these countries disseminate on a daily basis – and I’m an American.

  7. Andres Kargar said on May 22nd, 2009 at 11:40pm #

    Roxana Saberi: Pretty Guilty
    ……….
    Her lead defense attorney Mr. Abdolsamad Khorramshahi said that during the hearing, her client had “accepted that she had made a mistake and got access to documents she should not have.”

    The documents, coming from Iran’s Expediency Council, were apparently secret reports of aspects of Iraq under US occupation. She had admitted the offence during interrogations, which – according to her father – did not include torture, and had apologized for her act. She claimed that she had obtained the documents “out of curiosity.”

    Full text of this article at:

    http://www.presstv.com/classic/Detail.aspx?id=94636&sectionid=3510303

  8. Shabnam said on May 23rd, 2009 at 4:18am #

    Mr. Lunat: Thank you very much for this paper. I agree with your statement that “One of the functions of modern media is the creation of consent for the actions of the state.” Iran is the victim of campaign of lies and deception; therefore, it pushes the Iranian government to act accordingly to protect the interest of State against the Zionist enemy and its supporters, the west. The Zionist plan is balkanization and partition of Iran like Iraq to create non-Arab entities against Palestinian and Arab states. All of us should work together to wipe Zionism off the map.

    Israel is working and buying opportunists from the minority groups in Iran and elsewhere to establish ‘the greater Israel’. Israel also is working among Berbers of North Africa to create chaos to rearrange the map of the region according to her interest. The Kurds have aligned themselves with the Zionists and are trained by Mossad to carry out terrorist activities in Iran; as a result they have been identified as pawn of Zionism and imperialism in the Middle East.

    You are also correct about Sami Al Hajj, prisoner # 345, who has fallen a victim of the empire brutality that his case was not publicized by these phony ‘HUMAN RIGHTS’ organizations to protect their human rights, but they make a lot of noises to construct negative opinion against the targeted countries to fool people and smoothen the path for military action. Iranian activists are receiving hundred of awards each year to make their cases known to everyone on earth and have encouraged them to cooperate with the west against the their countries, to manufactured “leaders”, “philosophers”, “feminists” and many other agents to help the empire’s project to replace ‘undesired’ government with a puppet regime. No one trust these organizations including Human Rights Watch, freedom house, NED, Open society and thousand more where have been demanding Saberi’s freedom but not Al Hajj freedom in the past. These organizations function as a tool of the empire to re-arrange the map in the empire’s image. The following video presents the brutality of the established system and cooperation of the media and silence of the ‘Human Rights” organizations to benefit the empire.
    http://prisoner345.net

  9. Al said on May 23rd, 2009 at 8:59am #

    This silly bitch said she was singing the American National Anthem while in custody to keep her sprits up.

    Does she have no knowledge of Iranian history?

    The CIA was responsible for ousting a democratically elected government in Iran in 1953 because they wanted to nationalize thier oil fields which were owned by British Petroleum.

    So the USA, the greatest enemy of democracy & human rights on our planet, replaced a democratically elected government with that piece of dogshit, the shah, who was in turn overthrown by Khomeni, & Iran, a onetime democratic country became the Islamic Republic of Iran!

    & now we’re gonna nuke ‘em, because maybe they might have a nuclear bomb by the year 2019.

  10. kalidas said on May 23rd, 2009 at 11:34am #

    I wonder how much knowledge the body of Iranian people have of “Iranian” history.

  11. liz burbank said on May 23rd, 2009 at 6:58pm #

    Thanks for the excellent, urgently needed ‘reflections on roxana saberi’.
    The so-called u.s. left, passive as obama expands the u.s. geostrategic agenda, reveals itself to be anti-repub/Bush, not anti-capitalistimperialist . This, in u.s. conditions with no revolutionary leadership, reflects liberal imperialist zionist influence especially among class-race privileged sections, funded massively by the state & George Soros. U.S. soft power, projected via Soros’ empire as ‘human rights / development / democracy demands rigorous analysis and action by genuine anti-imperialist-zionists. Much important analysis and news of ’strategic non-violence’ is posted at
    http://www.burbankdigest.com/

    The only debate i’m aware of about Saberi is at Reza Fiyouzat’s
    http://revolutionaryflowerpot.blogspot.com/2009/05/saberi-is-free-how-about-others.html

    Hopefully DV will continue to expose this critical issue further!

    liz

  12. Shabnam said on May 24th, 2009 at 4:18am #

    Not only Saberi is aligned with the enemy of Iran and the region but also the Kurds work closely with Israel and the United States against the interest of the people in the region including Iran. These pawns must be exposed, isolated and finally defeated. The Kurds receive military training by Mossad to carry out terrorist activities in Iran. The closet Zionists work closely with Kurds as Israel’s pawns, and hide Kurdish terrorism to benefit Israel, therefore, they never talk about Kurdish terrorism and their alliances with Zionism. Since the leadership of the ‘left’ in the Western countries is dominated by Zionist Jews who protect the ‘Jewish state’ by diverting attention from Zionism onto ‘imperialism’, Kurds as pawns of the Zionism are never discussed.

    http://www.infowars.com/us-anti-iran-groups-hold-secret-meeting/

    {Ten American military officers and leaders of four Kurdish terrorist groups attended the meeting in the Palace Hotel in Sulaimaniyah, northern Iraq, the website said. During the meeting, the Kurdish leaders called on the US officials to pursue the same policies, which led to fall of the Iraqi Baath regime, in a bid to overthrow the Iranian government.
    Kurdistan Democratic Party’s former Secretary Mostafa Hejri, had reportedly underlined cooperation with the US against Iran as a “necessity”, in a meeting he held with students of Arbil University last year. General Secretary of Komala terrorist group, Abdulah Mohtadi had also officially affirmed the need of monetary and arms support from the US.
    Mostafa Hejri, Abdulah Mohtadi, secretary-general of a faction of the Democratic Party of Iranian Kurdistan, Abdullah Hassanzadeh, and the general secretary of the Revolutionary Union of Kurdistan, Hussein Yazdanpanah were the four Kurdish leaders attending the meeting.}

    Down with the closet Zionists.

  13. reza said on May 25th, 2009 at 1:50am #

    Fantastic comments! (But for one) Unabashed innuendos, totally baseless accusations, most bizarre rationalizations, absolute lies … all holding hand, walking down the Boulevard of Ignorance, happily singing, Laaaaa di daaa!

    I do not wonder how Salem witch-hunts took place, but how it is not occurring openly today!

    Hey Al, why stop at: “This silly bitch said she was singing the American National Anthem …”?
    Hey, buddy, go all the way while you’re at it: Burn ‘the bitch’ at the stake!

    SHAME!

    As for facts, which clearly seem beside the point here, but hey, how ’bout just a little bit of it? The writer of this piece has clearly NOT done the required homework. I realize that for the assertion that Saberi was holding ‘Classified’ docs, a link to BBC is provided, but that’s another story …

    The true fact is this: “The authorities also said Saberi was in possession of a report from the Center for Strategic Studies, which is connected to the office of Iran’s president. But that report was determined to be UNCLASSIFIED.” (see: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=104104552)

    Anybody following Saberi’s case knows this.

  14. Deadbeat said on May 25th, 2009 at 4:10am #

    Since when is NPR credible?

  15. reza said on May 25th, 2009 at 6:39am #

    Deadbeat (or, should I call you Wisebeat?)

    NPR’s just one source. The point was that the fact has been reported. You know how to google?

    The fact that it was an UNCLASSIFIED doc, in fact, since you’re being such a wiseass about it, WAS REPORTED BY IRANIAN JUDICIARY SOURCES!!!!

  16. RH2 said on May 25th, 2009 at 1:35pm #

    And how credible do you think “Iranian Judiciary Sources” were? We are not doing case studies about Iranian judiciary here or defending the Iranian regime. We are mainly raising our voice against U.S. imperial meddling under the pretext of democracy.

  17. Shabnam said on May 25th, 2009 at 1:50pm #

    Reza (Fiyouzat) DID NOT UNDERSTAND the NPR report. This report reads:
    {Before Wednesday, what was known about the evidence Iranian authorities used to level charges against Saberi was this: She had copied a confidential document belonging to the Expediency Council, an agency of the Iranian government connected to the office of Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei, that concerned the U.S. war in Iraq.}

    This CONFIDENTIAL DOCUMENT was found on Saberi. The Expediency Council is headed by corrupt Rafsanjani who has given protection to Hussain Mossavian who was involved in nuclear talk under Mohammad Khatami and is accused of transferring confidential documents to the enemy of Iran. Mossavian is also close to Rafsanjani’s camp, no one has been able to convict him up to now but his case is still open for prosecution, hopefully, in the near future.
    Saberi’s service was used as a ‘freelance translator’ at the Expediency Council where is headed by Rafsanjani, supporter of free market American style, who protects Mossavian and is determined to unseat Ahmadinejad from the office. All signs so far show that Ahmadinejad will be elected AGAIN because people of Iran are fed up with the illegal pressure and double standard application of international law by the west favoring a terrorist and racist entity, Israel, and they will not abandon their legal right to enrichment where is under safeguard of the international body, the IAEA. Why should they? The United States and Israel must destroy their WMD, thousands of nuclear weapons in their Arsenal, and then talk about the LEGAL enrichment program of Iran where Iran has every single right to enrich under NPT. IAEA must immediately start inspection of Israel’s bomb making facilities and tell Israel to sign the NPT and then TO SHUT UP.

    The same NPR report is talking about ANOTHER REPORT from the Center for Strategic Studies where is connected to the Office of Iran’s president as unclassified. This center is totally different from The Expediency Council where is headed by Akbar Rafsanjani. They were two different reports from two different center of power. One was classified and the other was not. They were not the same.

    {The authorities also said Saberi was in possession of a report from the Center for Strategic Studies, which is connected to the office of Iran’s president. But that report was determined to be unclassified.}

    All cases are reviewed first at the Ministry of Intelligence and National Security. Then, they will send their judgment on each case to the Judiciary for final decision on that case. It was at the judiciary where Saberi’s sentence was changed for unknown reasons. The Ministry of Intelligence and National Security still believes she is guilty but they have no power over the case.
    Saberi is guilty as charged.

    http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-iran-journalist12-2009may12,0,3372344.story

  18. Peter said on May 25th, 2009 at 7:23pm #

    Some people think (I’m referring to Reza) that if they write with complete confidence and absolute authority on a subject they can convince others that they know what they are talking about.

    NPR first says “Before Wednesday, what was known about the evidence Iranian authorities used to level charges against Saberi was this: She had copied a confidential document belonging to the Expediency Council, an agency of the Iranian government connected to the office of Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei, that concerned the U.S. war in Iraq”.

    Then NPR says “The authorities also said Saberi was in possession of a report from the Center for Strategic Studies, which is connected to the office of Iran’s president. But that report was determined to be unclassified”.

    Apparently she had two documents on her. The first from the Expediency Council (confidential) and the second from the office of Iran’s President (unclassified). She obviously had something on her she should not have been holding – the confidential document. Based on that alone, I would have undoubtedly arrested her.

    Reza picks the sentences out that fit into his/her viewpoint and ignores the sentences that go against his viewpoint. He calls the BBC report that said she had a classified document “another story” and he just ignores the NPR report that said she had a “confidential” document on her.

    The NPR and BBC are both government funded (owned) broadcasters. NPR from the US government and BBC from Britain’s government. The US government has been threatening to attack Iran if it does not stop its nuclear program (which Iran says is for peaceful purposes only) and Great Britain has been backing the USA’s position. Despite this, both of these government run broadcasters said she had a classified or confidential document on her. These statements from NPR and BBC are obviously credible. Thats a rare thing when speaking of the western press in relation to the middle east.

    Yesterday the New York Times reported that Israel’s Netanyahu was very happy that he got President Obama to say that the USA would consider all options open (meaning a military attack on Iran) if the talks on Iran’s nuclear program fail. Given the known facts: 1) She had a classified document in her possession 2) she was traveling to Israel 3) She had a discussion with a Mr. Peterson who asked her to work for the CIA, I would have arrested her. Since I am opposed to the death penalty in general and Iran is not at war with Israel or the USA (yet, but both governments openly state the may attack Iran) I would not have killed her yet. But she would be not be released and would not be getting special treatment. She had the nerve to call a hunger strike. This traitor would be sitting in a filthy jail, receiving lousy food and questioned for hours every day. The hunger strike would have prompted me to stop giving her any meals for a week.

  19. mary said on May 26th, 2009 at 4:05am #

    I don’t think it has been mentioned yet but Ms Saberi also had a part on the making of an underground film ‘No One Knows About Persian Cats’ with her ‘fiance’ or romantic partner as an Israeli funded website called him.

    This is a CBS report. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/05/13/entertainment/filmfestivals/main5011326.shtml?source=RSSattr=Entertainment_5011326

    What was the purpose of making this film? To further discredit the Iranian state and to up the ante for Israel’s agenda? Or was it just some harmless fun. I think not.

  20. Shabnam said on May 26th, 2009 at 12:58pm #

    Mary: I am glad you have brought this up. I wanted to point this out but I did not know how much the reader of this site know about this issue or is interested in this subject. However, to me the important point is the connection of the Film director of this film, Bahman Ghobadi an Iranian Kurd, to center of Zionist power in the US and Europe. Roxana Saberi is child of Iranian Jew, her father and a Japanese mother. The Kurds are spying for Israel since early nineteen sixties and have turned the North of Iraq into a colony of Israel and are trying to do the same in Iran Kurdish area. All of Kurdistan was part of Iran until 1514 where Othman empire invaded Iran and occupied and annexed part of Kurdish region into his empire where was incorporated partly into Turkey and partly into Iraq later. Therefore, the Kurds are Iranian and Kurdish is part of Iranian language family. The British colonial, American imperialist and Zionists have all tried to construct ‘minority’ and ‘majority’ where ‘Persian’ is considered the enemy and the rest are ‘victims’ to create states similar to ‘Israel’ in the region through destabilization and partition. Israel is working on balkanization of the region for decades now to create non-Arab states to help her agendas in the region. Oded Yinon “Israel strategy in the 1980’s’ is a point in case where he believed for Israel to survive and expand, she must:
    1) Becomes a regional empire
    2) To break up countries in the region to create non-Arab states as ally

    Ghabadi, the film maker, has recently participated in a conference arranged by the enemy of Iran, European Union, with a phony subject, “Iranian Nationalities” where Federation, Iraqi style, designed by a Zionist Jew in Washington, Dennis Gelb, was presented as an answer to solve the problem of “nationalities” in Iran, to remind us the disaster in Iraq.
    Ghobadi is supported by Zionists such as SHARON STONE who is part of the US foreign policy propagandist group to help the Zionist and imperialist agenda in different part of the empire.
    Recently Sharon Stone and other Zionists like Whitney Houston and Brooke Shields came under fire for their cooperation with Lev Leviev, a Jewish-American billionaire to expose the fact that:

    {The diamond stores owned by Jewish-American billionaire Lev Leviev had to remove pictures of several actresses after they complained of being linked to a company that funds settlements in the Palestinian occupied territories, a statement issued by the pro-Palestinian human rights group Adalah- New York said.}

    Stone also sparked an international outcry with her remarks during a red carpet interview at the Cannes film festival.
    {I’m not happy about the way the Chinese are treating the Tibetans because I don’t think anyone should be unkind to anyone else,} she said.
    She is also involved in Tibet propaganda campaign like Darfur campaign. She also tries to improve Israel image with campaign of lies and deception. She was involved in funding a project to ‘help’ Israeli and Palestinian children 3 years ago:

    {Stone, who will celebrate her 48th birthday while in Israel, asked to host a 500 dollar-a-plate dinner party for the county’s leading businessmen; proceeds will go to funding the projects for Israeli and Palestinian children in education, culture and sports.}
    While in Israel, Stone told Peres:
    {I admire you, sir, so greatly, it’s beyond discussion or I would just sit here in a puddle of tears. That I can sit here beside you is my greatest achievement.}
    Bahman Ghobadi has later claimed that he was Roxana’s ‘fiancé’ but it was denied immediately by Saberi’s father. He attacked Ghobadi and said he is lying to buy himself fame using his daughter’s bleak situation.

    It is interesting that Bahman Ghobadi wrote an open letter on Roxana’s behalf that:
    {And now I am devastated, for it is because of me she has been subjected to these events.}
    I don’t know which part of himself he is referring to? Is it because of his relation with those who organize the conference in Europe? Or does he mean his close relation with Zionist personalities including Sharon Stone?
    Sharon Stone has had a recent visit to Tehran. This visit has been kept off the record to obscure Ghobadi’s relation with activist on behalf of the empire such as Stone. The following link shows Sharon Stone and Ghobadi standing next to each other.

    http://forums.iransportspress.com/showthread.php?t=49272

    Sharon Stone also promotes Ghobadi’s films and in 2007 a piece of news reads:
    {The films “Turtles Can Fly” and “Half Moon,” made by an Iranian director Bahman Ghobadi, will be presented in the first round of the Cinema Verite Film Festival in Monaco and Paris this October. Also Sharon Stone, a famous American actress will appear both at the conference and at the festival, where she will personally introduce Bahman Ghobadi’s films.}

    Roxana Saberi is GUILTY AS CHARGED. She is an agent of the west, so her case was publicized by all “Human Rights” organizations connected to empire ‘democracy’ manipulator such as NED, Freedom House, Journalist without borders ( RSF), which are part of the empire tool of manipulation to attract ignorant or opportunist individuals or groups as enablers to expand Zionism and imperialism interest. Michael Barker writes:

    {NED’s overt democracy manipulation was, and still is, highly influenced by the CIA, whose work has always been heavily intertwined with both USAID and liberal foundations. So given these links it is not surprising that the NED’s first president admitted that: “a lot of what we [the NED] do today was done covertly 25 years ago by the CIA.
    Freedom House’s work has always been closely entwined with that of the NED, and they acknowledge on their website that they are a “strong voice for a U.S. foreign policy that places the promotion of democracy at the forefront.” Freedom House was active in long-term involvement in destabilizing the Nicaraguan government throughout the 1980s receiving around US$1million from the NED to create an anti-Sandinista propaganda campaign.} He continues:
    One of Freedom House’s most ‘democratically’ connected trustees is their chairman Peter Ackerman, who along with his wife Joanne, is intimately involved with the work of the following key democracy manipulating organizations, the International Center on Nonviolent Conflict, the Albert Einstein Institution, the International Crisis Group, and the International Center for Journalists.
    Many phony Iranian ‘intellectuals’ are connected to NED through Freedom House.
    Reporters Without Borders (RSF) was set up in 1985 by Robert Ménard and since it’s founding it has seemingly worked tirelessly to support journalists all over the world in their efforts to promote press freedom. So who could fault an organization with such a progressive mission? It was only in 2005 that critics of RSF determined that their work was being funded by the NED.
    RSF obtained a single grant (worth $39,900) from the NED in 2005 to “strengthen free press and decrease press abuse in Eritrea, Zimbabwe, Somalia, and Côte d’Ivoire.” RSF openly displays this NED link on their website, where they also highlight the support they obtain from George Soros’s ‘democratic’ Open Society Institute and from the NED-funded Center for a Free Cuba. As Michael Barker writes:
    According to the NED, this grant (for an unspecified amount) was used to support RSF-Canada’s:
    “…work preparing the defense for the Zahra Kazemi case, the Canadian photo journalist who was beaten to death [in July 2003] by Iranian officials. The project’s aim was to promote public interest in this case in order to encourage the Canadian government to put pressure on the Iranian government so that justice can be served. Rights & Democracy contributed primarily to organizing discussions between Foreign Affairs and relevant organizations preparing a public awareness event and sending a human rights observer mission to attend the Zahra Kazemi trial in Iran.”
    This is important because Rights and Democracy is the Canadian version of the NED.
    Both Iranian journalists who have been supported by Rights and Democracy (Ganji and Kazemi) have also been recipients of the Canadian Journalists for Free Expression (CJFE) International Press Freedom Award, Ganji receiving it in 2000, and Kazemi in 2003. This ‘democratic’ link does not appear to be coincidental as “[o]ne of the principal activities of CJFE is the management of the world’s only freedom of expression clearinghouse, the International Freedom of Expression eXchange (IFEX).” This in turn is significant because, as Barker points out, demonstrates that 17 of IFEX’s 72 member organizations have received funding from either the NED, Rights and Democracy, or the Westminster Foundation (the British version of the NED). Finally it is also noteworthy that Ganji, Iranian was detained by the Iranian government for just over a year in April 2000 following his participation in a conference held at the Heinrich Böll Institute – a German ‘democracy promoting’ organization that has been credited as providing the inspiration for the creation of the NED.
    Today, nothing has kept untouched and all these phony ‘Human rights’ are part of the empire and Zionist operative system and no one should trust them or work with them otherwise they will be labeled as ‘spy.’ These ‘democracy’ promoters are very active among Iranian fools and give many reasons to Iranian government to take hard measures to fight back all these conspiracies for ‘regime change.’
    On the other hand, none of these ‘Human Rights’ connected to the CIA, or Soros’ democracy promotor organizations or ‘Journalist without Borders’ (RSF) were interested in the fate of other Journalists such as Sami al Hajj raises many questions on the impartiality of these organizations which have spread a lot of propaganda against Iran to help Saberi’s case in addition to the support of war mongers such as Obama and Hillary Clinton.

  21. mebosa ritchie said on May 26th, 2009 at 2:30pm #

    why doesn’t dissident voice change its name to

    we are all anti-semites together.

    above is an article on iran-actually quite interesting.
    but all it provokes,like every article is a torrent of anti-semitic,anti-jewish,anti-israeli,anti-zionist abuse

    it’s like perverts using any excuse for paedophilia.

    it’s raining–must be the zionists fault
    my coffee’s cold—due to he israelis
    i am constipated—it’s the jews that are to blame

    shabnam,bozh,mary etc you are pathetic

  22. Peter said on May 26th, 2009 at 3:03pm #

    Shabnam,

    Thank you for pointing out that Roxana Saberi’s father is Jewish. It is amazing that I have to read this on this blog instead of a mainstream newspaper. While I don’t think its generally appropriate to identify someone’s ethnic or religious background in relation to politics, they’re are situations when a person’s ethnic background could be central to their way of thinking. This is obviously one of those cases.

    The most effective spies are people that are recruited to spy against their own country. There are various reasons someone will spy against their own country 1) they are willing to do it for money 2) they do it out of political conviction or 3) they sympathize with a foreign country because they are an ethnic minority.

    Miss Saberi falls into category three and unfortunately she has now made the entire Iranian Jewish community potential suspects. Unfortunately she has also given support to the centuries old feelings that Jews are outsiders in their own country and have dual loyalties. Miss Saberi has shown that her loyalties are with Israel. She is a traitor to her country of Iran.

    I find it amazing Iran released her. I would not have and if I had eventually released her one day, I guarantee you she would not have had a smile on her face as she did in this case when Iran let her go.

  23. bozh said on May 26th, 2009 at 3:40pm #

    mebosa, yes i am pathetic to all land robbers. It is an honor to me to be called that by childhunters! The more you call me names, the more it shows your desperation.
    it shld be noted that anyone who lives in the stolen land is extremely desperate.
    israel is a blot and shame that can and shld be be eliminated! tnx bozhidar vancouver

  24. Peter said on May 26th, 2009 at 8:31pm #

    Mebosa is used to being able to attacking countries at will, killing thousands of their citizens and stealing their land without criticism. Those days are coming to an end. The real racists are the Zionists and they are finally being recognized for what they are.

  25. reza said on May 26th, 2009 at 9:52pm #

    I will try one last time, just for those who are patient and are sincerely paying attention to the facts, which seem to have gotten lost here:

    Ahem … According to PUBLIC RECORDS, i.e., according to the records of the Iranian Government’s judiciary branch … (and PUBLIC RECORD means: it is a fact that can be looked up, just as much as the timing of this morning’s sunrise) … in other words, in the words of the very court that decided Saberi’s fate, and this is an IRANIAN court, meaning it is applying Iran’s laws supposedly, according to THEM, the documents that Saberi was holding were NOT classified. End of argument. Wether or not this or that news agency does report this fact is irrelevant.

    So, now … is the Iranian judiciary too an imperialist agency, then? I mean, c’mon! They just let a proven super spy, with these super top-secret documents she stole and kept on her for THREE YEARS and didn’t even feel the need to get rid of them or anything (that’s how cocky she was!); they just let this person simply take a walk, for Christ’s sake????!!!

    And while we’re on this … How about that Burmese political prisoner, Aung San Suu Kyi? I’m sure you all heard that Secretary of State Clinton has been calling for her immediate release from house- and all other kinds of arrest in Burma. Isn’t she just the right type for an imperialist agent too? I also heard Desmond Tutu calling for Aung San Suu Kyi’s release. Well, he must SURELY by an imperialist stooge!

    People who are paying attention and are sincere, surely can see where this false logic goes … (and here I am NOT talking to those ‘commenters’ who get paid by the word by some government to write bizarre fabrications about people).

  26. Shabnam said on May 27th, 2009 at 5:40am #

    Reza Feyouzat should come to this realization that things are not perfect anywhere. Roxana Saberi is guilty as charged, I think, but due to an influence she was set free. As I wrote earlier, the judgment of Mohseni-Ezhei, the director of the Ministry of Intelligence and National Security, is still the same believing in her guilt, but it was the Judiciary where the changes were made.
    We have seen similar cases in the United States where number of spies were set free due to influence of The Jewish lobby, AIPAC, not because they are innocent This case is related to Larry Franklin who has been convicted transferring classified documents to Israel under Bush administration to two Israeli agents, Rosen and Wiessman, from the AIPAC. Under Obama administration these charges against Israeli agents were dropped.
    http://www.counterpunch.org/roberts05072009.html

    As Paul Craig Roberts wrote:
    {The Israel Lobby apparently succeeded in convincing the Obama Justice (sic) Department that it is anti-semitic to accuse two Jewish AIPAC officials, Steven Rosen and Keith Weissman, of spying. The Israel Lobby succeeded in getting their trial delayed for four years, and now Attorney General Eric Holder has dropped charges. Yet, Larry Franklin, the DOD official accused of giving secret material to Rosen and Weissman, is serving 12 years and 7 months in prison.}

    Mr. Roberts will be even more surprised when he reads the following statement by Philip Giraldi in an article “Setting a Higher Standard for Making War” on May 26, 2009:

    {Israel runs an extremely aggressive espionage program inside the United States involving hundreds of operatives and agents, but the only Israeli spy to be arrested, charged, and imprisoned is Jonathan Pollard, and that was over 20 years ago. Even Larry Franklin, the Pentagon “Iran expert” who spied for Israel because he believed AIPAC would get him a better job on the National Security Council, is not actually in jail in spite of his 12-year sentence. He is reportedly free due to his service as a witness in the recently terminated AIPAC Steve Rosen-Keith Weissman espionage trial.}

    We don’t have a perfect world, do we? And we probably never get one, please wake up.

  27. mebosa ritchie said on May 27th, 2009 at 8:13am #

    for peter—relax and enjoy yourself

    A taste of Judea

    To celebrate the end of the harvest season, the wineries of the Judean Hill region are teaming up for month-long festivities in which they will offer an array of tourist attractions throughout the area.

    Stretching from the coastal plain to the foothills of the Jerusalem Mountains, the Judea region is home to a cluster of 25 boutique wineries, some of them the nation’s best. This is the most organized wine region in the country, with its own wine route and where the establishments are marketed as a group. However, most of the wineries are medium-to-small operations without established visitor centers, so the festival events are a great opportunity for both wine connoisseurs and would-be wine lovers to explore some of the area’s most spectacular gems.

    The charming setting and unique wine-growing conditions have earned the Judea region a reputation as one of the country’s fine wine-producing regions.

    The Judean wine route takes you on an adventure along hillsides and deep valleys with picturesque landscapes and panoramic vistas. This is one of the most scenic routes in the country where visitors can not only travel through forests and vineyards, but sip award-winning wines and enjoy country dining experiences.

    During the next three weekends, the different establishments in the area will present a variety of interesting events for the whole family: from horseback riding through the vineyards and bicycle and jeep trails across the hills, to lectures, movies and wine tastings at the different establishments. Festival guests will be able to learn about traditional and modern winemaking and meet the devoted winemakers and vintners of the region.

    Highlights

    One of the festival highlights is the terroir (soil and climate) workshop conducted by Eran Pik, a winemaker at Tzora winery. The workshop will begin at the winery’s Shoresh vineyard where participants will walk between the different plots and learn about the topography of the vineyard, the soil and the climate, and how it affects the vine. From there the tour will continue to the winery at Kibbutz Tzora where participants will sample some of the estate’s produce accompanied by hors d’oeuvres.

    Other attractions include a morning tour of the Kibbutz Tzova vineyards and a visit to Tzova — the region’s youngest winery, followed by a grand brunch at the Tzova Hotel overlooking the Judean hills.

    Avi Yehuda, the vintner of Yehuda winery, will host a wine tasting at his small establishment at Moshav Shoresh. Yehuda will talk about the history of winemaking in the area, which dates back to biblical times, and about wines of the new world.

    At his winery in Moshav Messilat Zion, Yossi Katz invites the crowds to dance to the sounds of the Sixties and South American music.

    Area hotels, including Neveh Ilan, Yad Hashmona, Tzova, Shoresh, Ma’aleh Hahamisha and Neveh Shalom, are offering attractive deals for festival guests

  28. Shabnam said on May 27th, 2009 at 7:19pm #

    Where were the phony “Human Rights” organizations of the West when Mohammed Jawad, an Afghani, was taken to Guantanamo Bay prison in early 2003 at the age of 12 and he has remained there since? According to the latest news:

    An Afghan who has spent over six years at the U.S. military’s Guantanamo Bay prison was only around 12-years-old when he was detained, not 16 or 17 as his official record says, an Afghan rights group said on Tuesday.
    Interviews with the family of Mohammed Jawad, who like many poor Afghans does not know his exact age or birthday, showed he was probably not even a teenager when he was arrested in 2002, the Afghan Independent Human Rights Commission said.
    http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/LQ954166.htm

    Why are they silent on this case?

  29. Shabnam said on May 28th, 2009 at 5:20am #

    SABERI IS GUILTY AS CHARCHED.
    Roxana Saberi thanked Hillary Clinton, a Zionist puppet, in person as soon as she entered the United States for her propaganda campaign on her behalf. Shame on those who thinks she is an innocent little Miss North Dakota.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/vcCandidateFeed1/idUSN2727914320090527

    I bet you, Bahman Ghobadi, the Iranian film director who claimed Saberi is his fiancé and Saberi’s father has denied it, will soon join the fun to promote his career on Iran’s expense. While he was at the Cannes Festival, he announced that he will not go back to Iran.
    The United States and in general the West, through their TOOLS, “Human Rights” organizations support voices and works where can be used against a targeted country. Thus, Iranian film directors, writers, journalists and ‘philosophers’ have all received hundreds of AWARDS where most of the time is not ‘the work’ itself that is awarded rather its propaganda value is cherished to construct a ‘leader’ or ‘spokesperson.’ Tahmineh Miliani’s film, The Hidden Half, a cheap propaganda film with no artistic VALUE received few AWARDS from the Western centers for propaganda purposes to encourage Iranian film makers to make more propaganda films to reach the Western markets to boost their careers and helps their bank account.
    The best Iranian film director after the revolution was Mohsen Makhmalbaf who was in Shah’s prison at the time of the revolution. He was set free by the people during the riots and has made number of good films. Since he was pro revolution and Iranian independence, his films were totally ignored by the West. He later turned against the government, but it was too late because the west has chosen Abbas Kiarostami as the face of Iranian Cinema. Later, Makhmalbaf left Iran and settled in France where I have heard he is very depressed. We all remember Jean Renoir, French film director, who made number of good films while in France but the best he produced when he became a US citizen and settled in the United States was a propaganda film against Nazi in World War II, “This land is mine”. He never made a film on French colonies to bring their disastrous situation to the public. He never criticized French barbaric treatment of Arabs in North Africa and elsewhere although he considered himself a ‘socialist’ and a member of the “popular front”, a coalition of communists and socialists who did nothing and everyone wanted to keep the colonies. Shame.
    Saberi’s case was taken by DANIEL PIPES, a fifth column Zionist, to promote the propaganda campaign against Iran.

  30. Peter said on May 28th, 2009 at 6:34pm #

    I think Iran has a bigger problem than Roxana Saberi. Who gave her those documents? I have not read how she received the documents. There must be a spy within the Iranian government who gave her the documents. Journalists don’t have access to classified documents on their own.

    In relation to the Kurds, they want a state of their own. Thats why, they are a problem for Turkey, Iraq and Iran. Playing an ethnic minority off against their countrymen during a war is an old strategy that can be very effective.

    This is what was done during WW I and led directly to WW II. The countries of Czechoslovakia, Poland and Yugooslavia did not exist prior to WW I. They were created in 1919 at the Versailles treaty conference. Czechs live in the areas of Bohemia and Moravia that had always been part of Austria. During WW I the British were whipping up anti-Austrian sentiment. The “founder” of Czechoslovakia, Thomas Masyryk, an Austro-Hungarian empire citizen, was brought to London during WW I to work on the creation of the new state. The area that became Czechoslovakia (made up of Bohemia and Moravia) had always been part of Austria (going back to the middle ages and before) and also had millions of German speaking people in it. 3.5 million Sudeten Germans lived there.

    Besides what was done to Austria, Germany, had a small Polish minority. The victorious allies used this as a excuse to take a huge part of Germany’s land away from her and give it to the new country of Poland that they created. These land grabs were done to reduce the military and economic strength of the German speaking world. This is what led to Adolf Hitler becoming Chancellor and then war in 1939, when Hitler became exasperated that Poland would not negotiate over the German speaking parts of Poland. Just a few days before Hitler attacked, he made his last request (or demand) that Poland discuss giving the city of Danzig (now known as Gdansk, a city with a population 90% German) back to Germany. If Germany had not been a superpower at the time, WW II would not have been a world war. It would have been a minor affair and over in a few months, similar to how NATO took Kosovo from Serbia a few years ago. Thats an area that always has been Serbian.

    I don’t know enough about the problems between Kurds and Iranians, but I think Iran’s objective should be to incorporate them into Iranian society. If there are laws treating them as lesser citizens (as is often the case with minorities), these laws should be abolished.

    I also think The Arabs and Iranians should work together, for God’s sake. Israel has 1.5 million Arabs living within the Israeli borders and these people should be used by Hezbollah, Iran and others opposed to Israel to create havoc in Israel. Imagine the protests that could be organized within Israel itself with 1.5 million Arabs living there.

  31. Danny Ray said on May 29th, 2009 at 4:43am #

    Peter, I do not know where you get your “Facts” but here is the background on poland.

    Background:
    Poland is an ancient nation that was conceived near the middle of the 10th century. Its golden age occurred in the 16th century. During the following century, the strengthening of the gentry and internal disorders weakened the nation. In a series of agreements between 1772 and 1795, Russia, Prussia, and Austria partitioned Poland amongst themselves. Poland regained its independence in 1918 only to be overrun by Germany and the Soviet Union in World War II. It became a Soviet satellite state following the war, but its government was comparatively tolerant and progressive. Labor turmoil in 1980 led to the formation of the independent trade union “Solidarity” that over time became a political force and by 1990 had swept parliamentary elections and the presidency. A “shock therapy” program during the early 1990s enabled the country to transform its economy into one of the most robust in Central Europe, but Poland still faces the lingering challenges of high unemployment, underdeveloped and dilapidated infrastructure, and a poor rural underclass. Solidarity suffered a major defeat in the 2001 parliamentary elections when it failed to elect a single deputy to the lower house of Parliament, and the new leaders of the Solidarity Trade Union subsequently pledged to reduce the Trade Union’s political role. Poland joined NATO in 1999 and the European Union in 2004. With its transformation to a democratic, market-oriented country largely completed, Poland is an increasingly active member of Euro-Atlantic organizations.

  32. Shabnam said on May 29th, 2009 at 5:00am #

    Peter:
    You are right when you say “Iran has a bigger problem than Roxana Saberi.” Iran is a targeted country for balkanization. Jane Harman, a fifth column Zionist and Israel Firstar, at the latest AIPAC conference clearly said that we should destabilize and partition Iran. Israel is working among ‘minorities’ and give the Kurds military training for terrorist activity in Iran and neighboring countries. Kurds are considered as PAWNS of Israel and the US in the region. The Kurds in Iraq have been spying for Israel for decades, therefore, no one trust them. Iranians, regardless of ethnic background did work together to bring the Shah, US puppet, down. The Kurds considered imperialism number one enemy of Iran because the US supported the dictatorship of the Shah. After the revolution, however, Zionism entered into Iranian political discourse but not for Kurds and Azeri opportunists who have chosen to work with Zionism. The enemy of Iran is using DIVIDE AND CONQUE to bring down the country.
    All of Kurdistan was part of Iran until sixteen century. In 16th century, the Sultan of Ottoman Empire invaded Iran and occupied part of Kurdistan and Azerbaijan. They could not do much in Tabriz (Azerbaijan) but have established themselves in part of Kurdistan where is located in Iraq and Turkey today. Persian Empire ruled over vast territory, from India to Libya where covered Iraq, Palestine, Egypt, and more. Azerbaijan and Georgia was part of Persia as well. Georgia and part of Azerbaijan was taken from Iran by Russia in 18th century. Therefore, the enemy uses an old game to undermine Iran. They use illegal sanction to undermine the economy of the targeted country to bring unemployment and chaos and as result dissatisfaction. They exert a lot of illegal pressure, for example turn a non-issue area such as legal nuclear energy of Iran into a hot issue using the UN through carrots and sticks to bring others on board. They fund the opposition groups to introduce riot and civil disobedience. When Iran can not engage in a decent economic activity because of sanction then will be unemployment. Iran has educated labor force. Iranian women are highly educated and professional. Iran is not Pakistan with 30 percent literacy. Iran is not Afghanistan where has been divested by criminal west and their puppets, Saudis and Pakistan military elite. When the enemy funds the opposition then the government takes measure to fight back. Americans are funding and supporting, Jundullah, terrorist groups such as Iranian opposition in Sistan and Baluchestan, southeastern part of the country, where shares border with Pakistan and just yesterday a bomb blast killed more than 23 people and wounded more than 12o in Zahedan, capital of Sistan and Baluchestan province.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTt84I3bxF4&eurl=http://payvand.com/news/

    Iranian Kurds are openly helping Israel and US to undermine the region, especially in Iraq, Iran, Turkey and Syria and have turned north of Iraq into a spy network for decades and allowed Israeli to buy land in North of Iraq and like the Zionists have forced other groups such as Christians, Turkmen, Arabs out of sensitive area with oil reserves to claim is ‘Kurdish city’ where have been faced with strong opposition.
    Israel hopes to break Iran into many non-Arab states to help her agenda, ‘the greater Israel’, bringing oil from north of Iraq, Kurdistan, to Israel to expand her influence in the region on expenses of others. We must know that NO STATE IN THE REGION INCLUDING GREECE AND TURKEY VOTED FOR PARTITION OF PALESTINE. The Kurds must change the course; otherwise they will go down the tube with their master, the Zionist racist and terrorists. ISRAEL HAS NO RIGHT TO EXIST.
    You are right when you say Iran should use the same technique on her enemy and Iranians and Arabs must be united against the common enemies in the region. Iran is trying hard to achieve this goal but you should realize that majority of Arab head of States are in the pocket of Israel and the US. On the other hand majority of Arab people are supporting Iran, that’s why the reactionaries in Arab capital are working as servants with Israel and US against Hezbollah, Hamas, Palestinians, Syrians and recently Qatar to undermine Iran.
    I am asking all countries who have been targeted for destabilization and control by the US, regardless of ethnic or religious background be united against the common enemy, the US and Israel. Iran and other country must do the same and work towards destabilization and partition of the United States and fund the dissidents to undermine these governments. We will witness in NO TIME the United States in pieces. For sure, half of the country will go back to legitimate owner, Mexico, and the rest to the indigenous population and those groups who want to cooperate with them.
    Down with Zionism and imperialism, the enemy of humanity.

  33. Shabnam said on May 29th, 2009 at 5:21am #

    Peter:
    You are right when you say “Iran has a bigger problem than Roxana Saberi.” Iran is a targeted country for balkanization. Jane Harman, a fifth column Zionist and Israel Firstar, at the latest AIPAC conference clearly said that we should destabilize and partition Iran. Israel is working among ‘minorities’ and give the Kurds military training for terrorist activity in Iran and neighboring countries. Kurds are considered as PAWNS of Israel and the US in the region. The Kurds in Iraq have been spying for Israel for decades, therefore, no one trust them. Iranians, regardless of ethnic background did work together to bring the Shah, US puppet, down. The Kurds considered imperialism number one enemy of Iran because the US supported the dictatorship of the Shah. After the revolution, however, Zionism entered into Iranian political discourse but not for Kurds and Azeri opportunists who have chosen to work with Zionism. The enemy of Iran is using DIVIDE AND CONQUE to bring down the country.
    All of Kurdistan was part of Iran until sixteen century. In 16th century, the Sultan of Ottoman Empire invaded Iran and occupied part of Kurdistan and Azerbaijan. They could not do much in Tabriz (Azerbaijan) but have established themselves in part of Kurdistan where is located in Iraq and Turkey today. Persian Empire ruled over vast territory, from India to Libya where covered Iraq, Palestine, Egypt, and more. Azerbaijan and Georgia was part of Persia as well. Georgia and part of Azerbaijan was taken from Iran by Russia in 18th century. Therefore, the enemy uses an old game to undermine Iran. They use illegal sanction to undermine the economy of the targeted country to bring unemployment and chaos and as result dissatisfaction. They exert a lot of illegal pressure, for example turn a non-issue area such as legal nuclear energy of Iran into a hot issue using the UN through carrots and sticks to bring others on board. They fund the opposition groups to introduce riot and civil disobedience. When Iran can not engage in a decent economic activity because of sanction then will be unemployment. Iran has educated labor force. Iranian women are highly educated and professional. Iran is not Pakistan with 30 percent literacy. Iran is not Afghanistan where has been divested by criminal west and their puppets, Saudis and Pakistan military elite. When the enemy funds the opposition then the government takes measure to fight back. Americans are funding and supporting, Jundullah, terrorist groups such as Iranian opposition in Sistan and Baluchestan, southeastern part of the country, where shares border with Pakistan and just yesterday a bomb blast killed more than 23 people and wounded more than 12o in Zahedan, capital of Sistan and Baluchestan province.
    Iranian Kurds are openly helping Israel and US to undermine the region, especially in Iraq, Iran, Turkey and Syria and have turned north of Iraq into a spy network for decades and allowed Israeli to buy land in North of Iraq and like the Zionists have forced other groups such as Christians, Turkmen, Arabs out of sensitive area with oil reserves to claim is ‘Kurdish city’ where have been faced with strong opposition.
    Israel hopes to break Iran into many non-Arab states to help her agenda, ‘the greater Israel’, bringing oil from north of Iraq, Kurdistan, to Israel to expand her influence in the region on expenses of others. We must know that NO STATE IN THE REGION INCLUDING GREECE AND TURKEY VOTED FOR PARTITION OF PALESTINE. The Kurds must change the course; otherwise they will go down the tube with their master, the Zionist racist and terrorists. ISRAEL HAS NO RIGHT TO EXIST.
    You are right when you say Iran should use the same technique on her enemy and Iranians and Arabs must be united against the common enemies in the region. Iran is trying hard to achieve this goal but you should realize that majority of Arab head of States are in the pocket of Israel and the US. On the other hand majority of Arab people are supporting Iran, that’s why the reactionaries in Arab capital are working as servants with Israel and US against Hezbollah, Hamas, Palestinians, Syrians and recently Qatar to undermine Iran.
    I am asking all countries who have been targeted for destabilization and control by the US, regardless of ethnic or religious background be united against the common enemy, the US and Israel. Iran and other country must do the same and work towards destabilization and partition of the United States and fund the dissidents to undermine these governments. We will witness in NO TIME the United States in pieces. For sure, half of the country will go back to legitimate owner, Mexico, and the rest to the indigenous population and those groups who want to cooperate with them. Down with Zionism and imperialism.

  34. bozh said on May 29th, 2009 at 5:40am #

    according to slavs, drang nach osten [urge to settle east] brought germans to slav lands.
    Austria became an empire during ottoman incursions. Nations such as magyars, slovenes, croats, wallachs willingly entered the empire so as to put greater resistance to turkish advances.

    nevertheless, we were until that time and the siege of vienna in late 17th century losing war after war and territory. Hungary entirely disappeared.
    vienna nearly fell. It had been polish duke, sobiecki, who broke turkish siege of vienna.
    from that time on we began to push turks out of europe. tnx

  35. Danny Ray said on May 29th, 2009 at 6:35am #

    exactly right Bozh, Pan Jan and the Hussria saved europe.

  36. Shabnam said on May 29th, 2009 at 6:39am #

    Now it is you, the US, who are in our regions. The United States with an engineered enemy is in the Central Asia, the Middle East and Africa. Israel and the US are deeply involved in destabilization and partition of the regional states of Sudan, Somali, Morocco, Lebanon, Iran, Syria, Palestine, Iraq, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Egypt and many others. They must get lost from our region. The US is responsible for the recent massacre of more than 140 Afghani civilians in one attack and American war criminals are trying to transfer their own responsibility for this massacre to ‘Taliban’ whom they created and used them fully for their agenda where thousands of innocent Afghanis were killed.
    Obama’s’ military administration is training more killers and rapists in name of soldiers to be sent to targeted area to kill more Muslim children then accuse ‘Taliban’ or non existence ‘Al Qaeda’ for it.
    The Liar Obama is still using ‘Bin Laden’ who was killed in 2001 to support the United States’ crimes against humanity in the region to keep the fools in check to sell them that to massacre Muslims are necessary to keep you safe so you can continue with your meager existence to buy more garbage at the mall to support the broken economy to help the rich to keep me in office so everyone is happy on expense of others. You are stupid NOT us.

  37. Peter said on May 29th, 2009 at 9:24am #

    Danny,

    Nothing you said contradicted what I said. Poland had not been a country since the 1700’s. When it was re-created in 1919 a huge amount of German territory along the Baltic coast was taken from Germany to give Poland access to the sea. This area became known as the “Polish Corridor” and separated one part of Germany from East Prussia (holding millions of Germans), the other part. The “Polish Corridor” held Danzig (now Gdansk) which was 90% German nestled within it.

    No nation would tolerate that being done to them and Britain, France (and later the USA) did not come to Poland’s aid because they loved Poles. Their goal was to weaken or destroy Germany . At that time Germany was the leading nation in science and engineering with a military that could only be matched by an alliance of the other world powers.

    If the allies loved Poland so much, they would have attacked the Soviet Union too. Instead they gave all of eastern Europe to the Soviet Union in 1945. I wonder what the USA would do if Mexico attacked to claim California, Arizona and a large part of Texas which were all a part of Mexico in the 1800’s. Germany has a far greater right to the lands taken from her (that held millions of Germans) than the US has to the land it stole. Many of those areas taken from Germany were German going back to the middle ages.

    To sum up why World War II occurred I can cite my own family as an example. My mother was born in a city called Memel, which was a German city founded by the Teutonic Knights in the thirteenth century. Memel is east of Poland and was the eastern most city of the German empire. After WW I, Memel was taken from Germany and given to Lithuania. Not far from Memel is Konigsberg and the rest of east Prussia where my family also had a home. Lying between east Prussia and the rest of Germany was the “Polish Corridor”, the land taken from Germany and given to Poland in 1919. After WW I my family moved to a city called Brieg (now called Brzeg), on the other side of the “Polish Corridor”. The allies had already taken my familiy’s home in Memel, but after WW II the Soviet Union stole all of east Prussia and took the home my family had near Konigsberg ( I visited there last year July 2008). Brieg was taken by Poland (or given to Poland) at the end of WW II so my family lost the home my mother grew up in too. To sum it up, my family’s three homes that were all part of Germany were stolen and given to three different countries. Memel was given to Lithuania and renamed Klaipeda, Konigsberg and east Prussia was renamed Kaliningrad and taken by the Soviet Union, Brieg was given to Poland and renamed Brzeg.

    To make sure the Germans never claimed these lands again (many of which were founded by Germans and whose families had lived there going back as far as the thirteenth century), the allies agreed that all Germans would be driven out of the eastern third of Germany. Fourteen million Germans were driven from there homes and forced to move west in the biggest migration of people in history (1945-1947). Millions were murdered on the way. This is similar to how Israel drove the Palestinians from their land, but on a much, much larger scale and the Israelis did not kill millions of civilians (as was done to the Germans).

    Germany is in the unfortunate position of being in the center of Europe, bordered by many countries and at the same time it was a superpower. The allies did not care about justice.

    By the way, as extremist as Hitler was, he did not even demand all of the stolen German territory back from Poland. He wanted Poland to remain a country. Poland would not give one inch and would not even give Danzig (90% German population) back to Germany. Read Patrick Buchanan’s “Churchill, Hitler and the Unnecessary War”.

    From “Churchill, Hitler and the Unnecessary War” page 245 – “Hitler invited (Poland’s foreign minister) Beck to Berchtesgaden on January 5, 1939…. Hitler explained that if Danzig was returned, it could remain under Polish economic control. He impressed on Beck that a connection ‘with East Prussia was a vital matter for the Reich as the connection with the sea was for Poland.’”. Buchanan then quotes British historian Basil Liddel Hart who says “on Hitler’s part it was a remarkably moderate demand” Buchanan says quote “But, again Beck rebuffed Hitler. Hitler offered to guarantee Poland’s borders and accept permanent Polish control of the Corridor, if Beck would simply agree to the return of Danzig and the construction of a German rail and road route across the Corridor. Beck again refused” . Hitler was appeasing Poland and willing to give up the Polish Corridor to Poland. Hitler tried again a few days before before Germany attacked Poland in September 1939.

  38. Danny Ray said on May 29th, 2009 at 9:58am #

    Yes, Yes I know Hitler only wanted peace, you know the old gag, A piece of Poland, a piece of France a piece of Holland and so on.

    I totally agree WWII was stupid, if France had stood up to the Germans when they marched into the Saar none of this would have happened. That is how it goes when you fail to stand up to evil.

    As for Poland, not being a country until 1919 I just wanted to point out that it was a country and an important one. Just because a country is conquered does not mean that it is gone. If that were the case then Europe would be German to this day. The poles never stopped being polish.

    Another example is that there was no country of Ireland for almost 700 years yet Ireland is back and seems to be doing well,

  39. Peter said on May 29th, 2009 at 10:39am #

    Actually it was France that declared war on Germany. Germany did not ask anything of France, although it certainly had a right ask for Alsace-Lorraine back (also taken from Germany in 1919). Most of the people in Alsace-Lorraine have names like Schweitzer and Gutenberg and speak German to this day. At least they didn’t drive the Germans from there homes in Alsace.

    WW II would never had occurred if not for the Versailles Treaty.

  40. Peter said on May 29th, 2009 at 10:46am #

    Saar was (and is today) still German territory, with only Germans living there. That shows you how the allies tried to dominate Germany, even telling Germans where they were allowed to station there own troops in there own territory.

  41. bozh said on May 29th, 2009 at 12:32pm #

    in the four-century war against ottoman expansion i forgot to also give credit to ukrainians, czechs, slovaks, rumanians, serbs, albanians, bulgars, germans, austrians, and greeks for ousting turks out of almost all europe and not just wallachs, slovenes, magyars, and croatians.
    having said that not all of these nations suffered the same losses in pop.
    it seems croats have suffered the most. Many croats were captured and taken away as servants.tnx bozhidar balkas vancouver

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