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	<title>Comments on: Latino Politicians/Pastors Lead Fight Against Same-sex Marriage in New York</title>
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		<title>By: MTB</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/05/latino-politicianspastors-lead-fight-against-same-sex-marriage-in-new-york/#comment-47309</link>
		<dc:creator>MTB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 16:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rev. Diaz should consider the bible he preeches from by remembering before pulling the splinter from someone else&#039;s eye, he should first remove the log from his own.

The unwed hispanic birth rate is currently well out of control, and working in healthcare can tell you it&#039;s very common for an unwed teen having a baby not to have the father at her side, hearing either he&#039;s in prison or she wants nothing to do with him. 

The current welfare system is over burdened and the state budget is absolutely out of control, yet in his dilegence to bring the good word to his flock he&#039;s forgetting to handle the problems facing him daily.  The illeterate rate for hispanics is one of the highest in the country, and the birth rate is spiraling out of control.  

He wants to prevent my marriage, but he&#039;s doing nothing to decrease the current unwed mother population of his own flock, and screams for additional public assistance for those in poverty, which is fine, but take the steps to prevent additional children being born into the welfare system.  Take the steps to encourage marriage prior to pregnancy, and work to help reduce the number of people trapped in the welfare system through education and religious beliefs.  

Instead he points fingers at wealthy politicians and claims to be the poor mans advocate, yet as a Rev. he&#039;s doing little or nothing to make a strong difference in his own Hispance Community.  Below are current statistics: 

Hispanic women have the highest unmarried birthrate in the country—over three times that of whites and Asians, and nearly one and a half times that of black women, according to the Centers for Disease Control. Every 1,000 unmarried Hispanic women bore 92 children in 2003 (the latest year for which data exist), compared with 28 children for every 1,000 unmarried white women, 22 for every 1,000 unmarried Asian women, and 66 for every 1,000 unmarried black women. Forty-five percent of all Hispanic births occur outside of marriage, compared with 24 percent of white births and 15 percent of Asian births. Only the percentage of black out-of-wedlock births—68 percent—exceeds the Hispanic rate.  

These are national statistics gathered by the CDC, if he&#039;s so worried about marriage why is his flock so affected by unwed child births?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rev. Diaz should consider the bible he preeches from by remembering before pulling the splinter from someone else&#8217;s eye, he should first remove the log from his own.</p>
<p>The unwed hispanic birth rate is currently well out of control, and working in healthcare can tell you it&#8217;s very common for an unwed teen having a baby not to have the father at her side, hearing either he&#8217;s in prison or she wants nothing to do with him. </p>
<p>The current welfare system is over burdened and the state budget is absolutely out of control, yet in his dilegence to bring the good word to his flock he&#8217;s forgetting to handle the problems facing him daily.  The illeterate rate for hispanics is one of the highest in the country, and the birth rate is spiraling out of control.  </p>
<p>He wants to prevent my marriage, but he&#8217;s doing nothing to decrease the current unwed mother population of his own flock, and screams for additional public assistance for those in poverty, which is fine, but take the steps to prevent additional children being born into the welfare system.  Take the steps to encourage marriage prior to pregnancy, and work to help reduce the number of people trapped in the welfare system through education and religious beliefs.  </p>
<p>Instead he points fingers at wealthy politicians and claims to be the poor mans advocate, yet as a Rev. he&#8217;s doing little or nothing to make a strong difference in his own Hispance Community.  Below are current statistics: </p>
<p>Hispanic women have the highest unmarried birthrate in the country—over three times that of whites and Asians, and nearly one and a half times that of black women, according to the Centers for Disease Control. Every 1,000 unmarried Hispanic women bore 92 children in 2003 (the latest year for which data exist), compared with 28 children for every 1,000 unmarried white women, 22 for every 1,000 unmarried Asian women, and 66 for every 1,000 unmarried black women. Forty-five percent of all Hispanic births occur outside of marriage, compared with 24 percent of white births and 15 percent of Asian births. Only the percentage of black out-of-wedlock births—68 percent—exceeds the Hispanic rate.  </p>
<p>These are national statistics gathered by the CDC, if he&#8217;s so worried about marriage why is his flock so affected by unwed child births?</p>
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		<title>By: Jose</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/05/latino-politicianspastors-lead-fight-against-same-sex-marriage-in-new-york/#comment-46948</link>
		<dc:creator>Jose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 06:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(It&#039;s still legal - and always God-honoring - to air messages like the following. See Ezekiel 3:18-19. In light of government backing of raunchy behavior (such offenders were even executed in early America!), maybe the separation we really need is the &quot;separation of raunch and state&quot;!)

In Luke 17 in the New Testament, Jesus said that one of the big &quot;signs&quot; that will happen shortly before His return to earth as Judge will be a repeat of the &quot;days of Lot&quot; (see Genesis 19 for details). So gays are actually helping to fulfill this same worldwide &quot;sign&quot; (and making the Bible even more believable!) and thus hurrying up the return of the Judge! They are accomplishing what many preachers haven&#039;t accomplished! Gays couldn&#039;t have accomplished this by just coming out of closets into bedrooms. Instead, they invented new architecture - you know, closets opening on to Main Streets where little kids would be able to watch naked men having sex with each other at festivals in places like San Francisco (where their underground saint - San Andreas - may soon get a big jolt out of what&#039;s going on over his head!). Thanks, gays, for figuring out how to bring back our resurrected Saviour even quicker!
 
     [If you would care to learn about the depraved human &quot;pigpen&quot; that regularly occurs in Nancy Pelosi&#039;s district in California, Google &quot;Zombietime&quot; and click on &quot;Up Your Alley Fair&quot; in the left column. And to think - horrors - that she is only two levels away from being President!]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(It&#8217;s still legal &#8211; and always God-honoring &#8211; to air messages like the following. See Ezekiel 3:18-19. In light of government backing of raunchy behavior (such offenders were even executed in early America!), maybe the separation we really need is the &#8220;separation of raunch and state&#8221;!)</p>
<p>In Luke 17 in the New Testament, Jesus said that one of the big &#8220;signs&#8221; that will happen shortly before His return to earth as Judge will be a repeat of the &#8220;days of Lot&#8221; (see Genesis 19 for details). So gays are actually helping to fulfill this same worldwide &#8220;sign&#8221; (and making the Bible even more believable!) and thus hurrying up the return of the Judge! They are accomplishing what many preachers haven&#8217;t accomplished! Gays couldn&#8217;t have accomplished this by just coming out of closets into bedrooms. Instead, they invented new architecture &#8211; you know, closets opening on to Main Streets where little kids would be able to watch naked men having sex with each other at festivals in places like San Francisco (where their underground saint &#8211; San Andreas &#8211; may soon get a big jolt out of what&#8217;s going on over his head!). Thanks, gays, for figuring out how to bring back our resurrected Saviour even quicker!</p>
<p>     [If you would care to learn about the depraved human "pigpen" that regularly occurs in Nancy Pelosi's district in California, Google "Zombietime" and click on "Up Your Alley Fair" in the left column. And to think - horrors - that she is only two levels away from being President!]</p>
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		<title>By: Lori</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/05/latino-politicianspastors-lead-fight-against-same-sex-marriage-in-new-york/#comment-46641</link>
		<dc:creator>Lori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 16:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff,

Not ALL black and brown are anti-gay.  Your lumping us all together as if have a hive mentality is a function the very racism you think happened &quot;a few decades ago.&quot;  I am black and pro-marriage and proud of it.  I&#039;m also religious.  There are plenty of white evangelicals running around spewing their hateful, homophobic views, but I doubt you label ALL white as anti-gay, because of the actions of a few.  The majority of the country is still white.  The majority of resistance to gay marriage in this country comes from whites.   Stop scapegoating black and brown people, who apparently once again are the cause of society&#039;s evils.  In spite of the fact, that it is a black governor who has once again introduced the gay marriage law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff,</p>
<p>Not ALL black and brown are anti-gay.  Your lumping us all together as if have a hive mentality is a function the very racism you think happened &#8220;a few decades ago.&#8221;  I am black and pro-marriage and proud of it.  I&#8217;m also religious.  There are plenty of white evangelicals running around spewing their hateful, homophobic views, but I doubt you label ALL white as anti-gay, because of the actions of a few.  The majority of the country is still white.  The majority of resistance to gay marriage in this country comes from whites.   Stop scapegoating black and brown people, who apparently once again are the cause of society&#8217;s evils.  In spite of the fact, that it is a black governor who has once again introduced the gay marriage law.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/05/latino-politicianspastors-lead-fight-against-same-sex-marriage-in-new-york/#comment-46598</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 01:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The disgusting part is that the main people opposing this are the same people who were opprssed a few decades ago.  It is really truly appalling the level of bigotry by the same people who were targets of the bigotry.  Honestly, this truly makes me wonder if blacks even remember the fact that a few decades ago they were not allowed to marry whites.  It&#039;s unbelieveable.  I am a person of compassion but this hatred almost wants me to wish that blacks were oppressed again.  Maybe they would re-think their opposition to this and remember where they came from.  Think about it!  It really is truly astonishing to mee!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The disgusting part is that the main people opposing this are the same people who were opprssed a few decades ago.  It is really truly appalling the level of bigotry by the same people who were targets of the bigotry.  Honestly, this truly makes me wonder if blacks even remember the fact that a few decades ago they were not allowed to marry whites.  It&#8217;s unbelieveable.  I am a person of compassion but this hatred almost wants me to wish that blacks were oppressed again.  Maybe they would re-think their opposition to this and remember where they came from.  Think about it!  It really is truly astonishing to mee!</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/05/latino-politicianspastors-lead-fight-against-same-sex-marriage-in-new-york/#comment-46515</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 05:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t use children for these ads, they don&#039;t know.... t</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t use children for these ads, they don&#8217;t know&#8230;. t</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/05/latino-politicianspastors-lead-fight-against-same-sex-marriage-in-new-york/#comment-46514</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 05:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This are civil Rights not Religious ceremonies, thousands of people get fired from jobs because their sexual orientation, some of them get kill or never being able to get a jot... Keep your own marriage from Divorce... Goverments who go to war and kill people to me that is a sin.. Not love between one and another.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This are civil Rights not Religious ceremonies, thousands of people get fired from jobs because their sexual orientation, some of them get kill or never being able to get a jot&#8230; Keep your own marriage from Divorce&#8230; Goverments who go to war and kill people to me that is a sin.. Not love between one and another&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/05/latino-politicianspastors-lead-fight-against-same-sex-marriage-in-new-york/#comment-46489</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 01:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The rally against same-sex marriage in NYC is the perfect example on how most lazy people are also religious. These are the type of people that are too lazy to think on their own, and leaves the thinking to their pastors, and just goes with whatever their pastors say. Senator Rev. Diaz is nothing but a political/religious hypocrite. For Diaz to claim that Gov. Paterson is disrespecting religion is ridiculous, since Diaz is already on his second marriage. Whatever happened to &quot;til death do us part&quot;? When you get divorced, you are not respecting your original vows, therefore disrespecting the sanctity of marriage. I guess for Rev. Diaz, marriage is only important when it is convenient for himself. He is what I call a fake Christian - he uses his religion for his own means, and not to truly follow the Lord&#039;s teachings, which includes respect, helping and caring for others, acceptance, and love. He uses religion to garner power for himself, and enslave the minds of people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The rally against same-sex marriage in NYC is the perfect example on how most lazy people are also religious. These are the type of people that are too lazy to think on their own, and leaves the thinking to their pastors, and just goes with whatever their pastors say. Senator Rev. Diaz is nothing but a political/religious hypocrite. For Diaz to claim that Gov. Paterson is disrespecting religion is ridiculous, since Diaz is already on his second marriage. Whatever happened to &#8220;til death do us part&#8221;? When you get divorced, you are not respecting your original vows, therefore disrespecting the sanctity of marriage. I guess for Rev. Diaz, marriage is only important when it is convenient for himself. He is what I call a fake Christian &#8211; he uses his religion for his own means, and not to truly follow the Lord&#8217;s teachings, which includes respect, helping and caring for others, acceptance, and love. He uses religion to garner power for himself, and enslave the minds of people.</p>
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		<title>By: lichen</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/05/latino-politicianspastors-lead-fight-against-same-sex-marriage-in-new-york/#comment-46466</link>
		<dc:creator>lichen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 21:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rabbi Yehuda, you most certainly are a bigot, and I hope that your stupid schools do fail and you&#039;re forced to realize that plenty of gay people, unfortunately, do believe in your pathetic religion(s).  Furthermore, mutilating the genitals of young boys is a serious crime which should be banned immediately and permanently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rabbi Yehuda, you most certainly are a bigot, and I hope that your stupid schools do fail and you&#8217;re forced to realize that plenty of gay people, unfortunately, do believe in your pathetic religion(s).  Furthermore, mutilating the genitals of young boys is a serious crime which should be banned immediately and permanently.</p>
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		<title>By: Marco Luxe</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/05/latino-politicianspastors-lead-fight-against-same-sex-marriage-in-new-york/#comment-46451</link>
		<dc:creator>Marco Luxe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 18:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is sadly ironic that latino leaders have joined the anti-gay fight because the case name first overturning state racial marriage classifications :  Perez v. Lippold [Cal, 1948]  Are the formerly oppressed always destined to oppress others?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is sadly ironic that latino leaders have joined the anti-gay fight because the case name first overturning state racial marriage classifications :  Perez v. Lippold [Cal, 1948]  Are the formerly oppressed always destined to oppress others?</p>
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		<title>By: Cornet Mustich</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/05/latino-politicianspastors-lead-fight-against-same-sex-marriage-in-new-york/#comment-46444</link>
		<dc:creator>Cornet Mustich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 16:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good column Bill!

And kudos to New England, Iowa, and DC.

Onward..

Cheers, Joe Mustich, Justice of the Peace,
Washington CT USA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good column Bill!</p>
<p>And kudos to New England, Iowa, and DC.</p>
<p>Onward..</p>
<p>Cheers, Joe Mustich, Justice of the Peace,<br />
Washington CT USA</p>
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