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	<title>Comments on: Credit Where Credit Is Due: We&#8217;re Not Out of the Woods Yet</title>
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		<title>By: kalidas</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/05/credit-where-credit-is-due-were-not-out-of-the-woods-yet/#comment-46633</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 14:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Einstein also said... &quot;Imagination is more important than knowledge.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Einstein also said&#8230; &#8220;Imagination is more important than knowledge.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/05/credit-where-credit-is-due-were-not-out-of-the-woods-yet/#comment-46557</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 14:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And that&#039;s why I wrote; And for right now probably “Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler”. 

Probably 10,000 years for us to get better at the first part and unless we now make it as simple as possible, but not simpler we don&#039;t get to find out.  What we see now is moving forward and not willing to give up a thing sort of so as to survive.  Not to bright. We have to stop being such whimps and understand this is not going to be easy far from it.  What&#039;s coming if we try will make us all better in many way&#039;s and easy it will not be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And that&#8217;s why I wrote; And for right now probably “Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler”. </p>
<p>Probably 10,000 years for us to get better at the first part and unless we now make it as simple as possible, but not simpler we don&#8217;t get to find out.  What we see now is moving forward and not willing to give up a thing sort of so as to survive.  Not to bright. We have to stop being such whimps and understand this is not going to be easy far from it.  What&#8217;s coming if we try will make us all better in many way&#8217;s and easy it will not be.</p>
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		<title>By: Tennessee-Chavizta</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/05/credit-where-credit-is-due-were-not-out-of-the-woods-yet/#comment-46550</link>
		<dc:creator>Tennessee-Chavizta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 14:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MARIO BENEDETTI HAS DIED: ONE OF THE BEST SOCIALIST INTELLECTUALS OF THIS WORLD

http://www.webnewswire.com/node/454348

Venzeulean President Chavez joins world grief on Benedetti&#039;s death
Submitted by Business Desk on May 20, 2009 - 10:38 

The Government of the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela joins the grief that today overwhelms the entire world for the physical loss of our compatriot, poet, brother and friend Mario Benedetti. 

With great sadness, we wish to express our deepest words of solidarity to our brother country Uruguay and to the world over the painful passing on of a writer and poet whose life was committed to the humanity. His pen, ideas and merits, as a word defender, will remain forever in the memory of South American People. 

Men go beyond by their works and the good deeds on earth; in this regard, what we learned from him is endless, we learned, among many other things, “not to let our eyelids fall heavily as judgments.” This phrase summarizes his work, a man that lived defending his environment and deeply compromised with the reality of the peoples of our America. 

With prophetic words, he talked about fears and misfortunes and depicted horrible things, but he also defended, on time, the happiness and hopes that belonged to his people, trying to answer to the bright consciousness that was portrayed on his books as a subtle comprehension of the reality of common men and women, of our peoples. That is the legacy that transcends this life and gives us time for consolation. 

Ali Primera, another people’s singer, said wisely: “those who die for life can’t be called dead people,” that is why, we do not say Goodbye to Benedetti, we just say “so long” to a friend and a brother of the entire world that raised his “words” the same as a combat weapon, and made from his poems “songs of life and hopes.” He will be remembered this way. 

To his family, his friends and his loved ones our solidarity and the deepest feelings from who will always bring in his heart such a lovely person. We will honor him by reading his books with revolutionary passion and making the world conscious that “the South also exists.” 

Now, more than ever, Master, our mission is and will be “to defend happiness: defend it from fright and nightmares / from the neutral ones and the neutrons / from the sweet disgraces / and the darkened diagnostics.” 

Not a single minute of silence in the memory of Benedetti! Million of applauses and songs in honor of his exceptional life and works! 

Hugo Chávez Frías</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MARIO BENEDETTI HAS DIED: ONE OF THE BEST SOCIALIST INTELLECTUALS OF THIS WORLD</p>
<p><a href="http://www.webnewswire.com/node/454348" rel="nofollow">http://www.webnewswire.com/node/454348</a></p>
<p>Venzeulean President Chavez joins world grief on Benedetti&#8217;s death<br />
Submitted by Business Desk on May 20, 2009 &#8211; 10:38 </p>
<p>The Government of the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela joins the grief that today overwhelms the entire world for the physical loss of our compatriot, poet, brother and friend Mario Benedetti. </p>
<p>With great sadness, we wish to express our deepest words of solidarity to our brother country Uruguay and to the world over the painful passing on of a writer and poet whose life was committed to the humanity. His pen, ideas and merits, as a word defender, will remain forever in the memory of South American People. </p>
<p>Men go beyond by their works and the good deeds on earth; in this regard, what we learned from him is endless, we learned, among many other things, “not to let our eyelids fall heavily as judgments.” This phrase summarizes his work, a man that lived defending his environment and deeply compromised with the reality of the peoples of our America. </p>
<p>With prophetic words, he talked about fears and misfortunes and depicted horrible things, but he also defended, on time, the happiness and hopes that belonged to his people, trying to answer to the bright consciousness that was portrayed on his books as a subtle comprehension of the reality of common men and women, of our peoples. That is the legacy that transcends this life and gives us time for consolation. </p>
<p>Ali Primera, another people’s singer, said wisely: “those who die for life can’t be called dead people,” that is why, we do not say Goodbye to Benedetti, we just say “so long” to a friend and a brother of the entire world that raised his “words” the same as a combat weapon, and made from his poems “songs of life and hopes.” He will be remembered this way. </p>
<p>To his family, his friends and his loved ones our solidarity and the deepest feelings from who will always bring in his heart such a lovely person. We will honor him by reading his books with revolutionary passion and making the world conscious that “the South also exists.” </p>
<p>Now, more than ever, Master, our mission is and will be “to defend happiness: defend it from fright and nightmares / from the neutral ones and the neutrons / from the sweet disgraces / and the darkened diagnostics.” </p>
<p>Not a single minute of silence in the memory of Benedetti! Million of applauses and songs in honor of his exceptional life and works! </p>
<p>Hugo Chávez Frías</p>
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		<title>By: bozh</title>
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		<dc:creator>bozh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 13:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>don, 
thanks for einstein&#039;s insight. Some people- perhaps less than 0001% of world pop] express einstein&#039;s and et al insight so: To be is to be related.
That means i am related to that melting ice as well to one or more little girls of an eaon ago who  birthed babies.

at one time all the girls were as black as ebony. So, i say, viva la viagra and black people.
however, racists do not know they are related to anything except their &#039;holy&#039; constitution and their respective lands&#039;  &#039;greatness&#039; [read, please, brutal power] tnks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>don,<br />
thanks for einstein&#8217;s insight. Some people- perhaps less than 0001% of world pop] express einstein&#8217;s and et al insight so: To be is to be related.<br />
That means i am related to that melting ice as well to one or more little girls of an eaon ago who  birthed babies.</p>
<p>at one time all the girls were as black as ebony. So, i say, viva la viagra and black people.<br />
however, racists do not know they are related to anything except their &#8216;holy&#8217; constitution and their respective lands&#8217;  &#8216;greatness&#8217; [read, please, brutal power] tnks</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/05/credit-where-credit-is-due-were-not-out-of-the-woods-yet/#comment-46537</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 11:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I sent this to media this morning.  

 Morning,
   The climate change bill rolls on in the House and so does climate change in our house we call Earth.  Someone wrote that the republicans are expected to try to surgically remove the heart of the proposal that doesn&#039;t sound good.  I watched the republicans yesterday and they seemed very concerned about the people the little guy.  Key word here is seemed.  You gotta have heart.  What Einstein said and for the twenty first century could be helpful. &quot;Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler&quot;.  What we see so far is far far from that.  Cap and trade is a band aid and they know that and the bill is suppose to reduce emissions 17 percent by 2020 from 2005 levels.  Do you hear it wait there it is again the laughter of the God&#039;s.  Let&#039;s do the math a little figuring.  We are now putting 10,000 times the natural rate of CO 2 into the atmosphere measured back 600,000 years that should be enough for us human&#039;s and with half a brain and open eye&#039;s we see now today Worldwide what that means as a beginning.  Ok in 2020 here&#039;s where the figuring comes in 11 years we cut by 17% greenhouse gases.  At this point we are only putting back into the atmosphere the stuff that the Earth took out of the atmosphere in millions of years at 8,300 times the natural rate.  That&#039;s right economic downturn so let&#039;s be nice and take away a little so say 7,300 times the natural rate and of course could be a little cheating here and there so let&#039;s round it out to 8,000 times the natural rate.  &quot;Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler&quot;.  Tax the carbon return the money back to the people the little guy.  Oh that&#039;s right am mad as hell and not going to take it anymore as cities and towns fall apart. That tea party was helped along with the help of Fox and should give you a clue into you gotta have heart part.  The last few day&#039;s with the house committee we have seen active paranoiac thought, trying to systematize confusion and contribute to the total discrediting of the world of reality and not a very good job at that.  The problem itself will show us more this summer and next year funny how many seem to forget about that. 

The only defense of this monstrous absurdity that I have heard is “well, you are right, it’s
no good, but the train has left the station”. If the train has left, it had better be derailed soon or
the planet, and all of us, will be in deep do-do.  James Hansen

   A 3C rise in temperature is deep do do trust me on this one. 

http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/images/daily_images/N_timeseries.png

  New ice melts faster than old ice.  The talk with some is now we can get the oil and gas up there and forgetting that food and water will be a bit of a problem at that point as it is now and who say&#039;s this the big boy&#039;s key word boy&#039;s and trying to systematize confusion and contribute to the total discrediting of the world of reality and not a very good job at that and I have to admit are making progress with the confusion part. It is working sort of.  Why can&#039;t we all just get along? 

Albert Einstein
A human being is a part of a whole, called by us &#039;universe&#039;, a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feelings as something separated from the rest... a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest to us. Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty.

    And for right now probably  &quot;Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler&quot;.    

 Don

    Read DV big boy&#039;s?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sent this to media this morning.  </p>
<p> Morning,<br />
   The climate change bill rolls on in the House and so does climate change in our house we call Earth.  Someone wrote that the republicans are expected to try to surgically remove the heart of the proposal that doesn&#8217;t sound good.  I watched the republicans yesterday and they seemed very concerned about the people the little guy.  Key word here is seemed.  You gotta have heart.  What Einstein said and for the twenty first century could be helpful. &#8220;Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler&#8221;.  What we see so far is far far from that.  Cap and trade is a band aid and they know that and the bill is suppose to reduce emissions 17 percent by 2020 from 2005 levels.  Do you hear it wait there it is again the laughter of the God&#8217;s.  Let&#8217;s do the math a little figuring.  We are now putting 10,000 times the natural rate of CO 2 into the atmosphere measured back 600,000 years that should be enough for us human&#8217;s and with half a brain and open eye&#8217;s we see now today Worldwide what that means as a beginning.  Ok in 2020 here&#8217;s where the figuring comes in 11 years we cut by 17% greenhouse gases.  At this point we are only putting back into the atmosphere the stuff that the Earth took out of the atmosphere in millions of years at 8,300 times the natural rate.  That&#8217;s right economic downturn so let&#8217;s be nice and take away a little so say 7,300 times the natural rate and of course could be a little cheating here and there so let&#8217;s round it out to 8,000 times the natural rate.  &#8220;Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler&#8221;.  Tax the carbon return the money back to the people the little guy.  Oh that&#8217;s right am mad as hell and not going to take it anymore as cities and towns fall apart. That tea party was helped along with the help of Fox and should give you a clue into you gotta have heart part.  The last few day&#8217;s with the house committee we have seen active paranoiac thought, trying to systematize confusion and contribute to the total discrediting of the world of reality and not a very good job at that.  The problem itself will show us more this summer and next year funny how many seem to forget about that. </p>
<p>The only defense of this monstrous absurdity that I have heard is “well, you are right, it’s<br />
no good, but the train has left the station”. If the train has left, it had better be derailed soon or<br />
the planet, and all of us, will be in deep do-do.  James Hansen</p>
<p>   A 3C rise in temperature is deep do do trust me on this one. </p>
<p><a href="http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/images/daily_images/N_timeseries.png" rel="nofollow">http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/images/daily_images/N_timeseries.png</a></p>
<p>  New ice melts faster than old ice.  The talk with some is now we can get the oil and gas up there and forgetting that food and water will be a bit of a problem at that point as it is now and who say&#8217;s this the big boy&#8217;s key word boy&#8217;s and trying to systematize confusion and contribute to the total discrediting of the world of reality and not a very good job at that and I have to admit are making progress with the confusion part. It is working sort of.  Why can&#8217;t we all just get along? </p>
<p>Albert Einstein<br />
A human being is a part of a whole, called by us &#8216;universe&#8217;, a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feelings as something separated from the rest&#8230; a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest to us. Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty.</p>
<p>    And for right now probably  &#8220;Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler&#8221;.    </p>
<p> Don</p>
<p>    Read DV big boy&#8217;s?</p>
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