Yesterday the FBI announced the arrest of a cell of four people, surprisingly all Muslims, in a plot to blow up a synagogue in Riverdale, NY, and shoot down an aircraft with a Stinger missile.

According to reports, the FBI had been investigating this homegrown terror cell for a year, and when they were arrested they were sneaking around the outside of the synagogue planting the phony explosives that the FBI had sold them.

Can Suthiano find a way to blame this on the Zionists?

You continue to confuse the role of a bank with the role of a treasurer.

Why don’t you just have a talk with your high school economics teacher, who would be happy to explain certain basics to you. (He will explain to you that a guardian of a treasure refers to the bank in which the treasure is stored. He probably will explain the meaning of treasure, which is wealth — for example, money, jewels, or precious metals — that is stored somewhere.)

He might even give you a passing grade at the end of the semester.

obviously you’ve never read anything except for how to be a giant sophist.

“To say that you have your deposited your money in a certain bank does NOT mean that that bank is in control of your treasury.”

“It is a somewhat curious sequel to the attempt to set up a Catholic competitor to the Roths-childs that at the present time the latter are the guardians of the papal treasure” (http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?artid=445&letter=R&search=Rothschild).

Laser, you giant sophist, where do you see anything about making a deposit?

“Guardians of the papal treasure”.

The papal treasure (if you knew anything about the Vatican) REFERS TO ANY ASSETS OF THE VATICAN, WHICH ARE ENORMOUS AND UNDISCLOSED! WHY DO YOU THINK THE WRITER CHOSE TO WRITE ‘PAPAL TREASURE’ AS OPPOSED TO A DEPOSIT OF A CERTAIN AMOUNT?

In closing: “Lieberman: US to accept any Israeli policy decision” (http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1080097.html).

That’s enough for Laser, he won’t get any further responses from me.

Just to make sure once again, I checked the URL that you gave. I suspect that if you went there yourself, you did not understand what you read.

To say that you have your deposited your money in a certain bank does NOT mean that that bank is in control of your treasury.

do you think that the other people on DV have that little understnding of the written word?

To make this a living force and bring it to clear consciousness is perhaps the foremost task of education. Einstein

Ever now and then I watch this show on Fox called red eye to see just how far we have not come in consciousness or for the people I see on this show and there thinking unconsciousness. The last show I watched a guest said that it is to bad the kid’s today are being taught about climate change the lie and are being told they must sacrifice mankind our way of life for the natural World. The person who said that is a wall street person.

“It is a somewhat curious sequel to the attempt to set up a Catholic competitor to the Roths-childs that at the present time the latter are the guardians of the papal treasure” (http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?artid=445&letter=R&search=Rothschild)

It is not suprising, given my prounounced task, that I should come under attack.

Look at this sophist who attacks me with false accusations after I have made such a clear attempt to differentiate between the general and the specific.

I know the friends on DV are smart enough to see through such attack.

That is not true; nor is it written in the Jewish Encyclopedia.

What a surprise!!!

What does that do to the insidious conspiracy theories?

What does that do the charge that “some of my best friends are Jews and it’s just the Zionists that I despise”?

It is very reassuring to see that here on Dissident Voice we are working towards breaking away facades of separateness to reveal underlying unities.

Now we have to ask ‘what is zionism?’

I don’t think that question has simply an economic or political answer.

I believe there are deep-seeded religious, spiritual beliefs (and thus practices) at the core of these values.

I also believe that these values are not the ‘religious’ values held and practiced by the large body of people who make up the ‘Jewish community’.

The point here isn’t for me to tell you exactly what I believe, but rather for us to start thinking along these lines… After all PEOPLE ACT WITHIN THE PICTURE OF THE WORLD THAT THEY HOLD.

So I ask for everyone who’s interested to help in recreating this picture as accurately as possible. By understanding the picture the ‘zionists’ are acting within, we can predict future actions and easily see through rhetoric.

I will begin by pointing to the connection between the biggest banks and the Vatican. The Jewish Encyclopedia openly admits (boasts) that the Rothschild’s are in control of the Vatican treasury.

Why is this important? We can start understanding that the distinctions drawn between Jews and Catholics are meant to work at the lower levels to create tension and strife, but do not apply to the heads of these pyramids.

Again,

this is not me professing to know anything.

It is a open call to others on Dissident Voice to help in the pursuit should they think it worthwhile.

Re the “comments”: I wouldn’t go as far as “anti-Racist”’s claim that absolutely nothing “George Thomson” posted had any validity whatsoever, but I do continue to be of the opinion that his rant opens the door to characters like this “Laser”. George, like Andrew Winkler, offers a mix of true, possibly true, and completely fictional propositions, poisoning the well for anybody who may want to investigate any of the more possibly factual statements by making it appear to the less-sophisticated reader that people who hold views hostile to Zionism & Federal Reservism are probably just more crackpots & white supremacists like George & Andy.

BTW, is it just me or has Max’s thinking undergone a dramatic development over the past cpl yrs? I find myself increasingly impressed.
With regard to the identification of AIPAC and the “Financial Sector” as the two controlling elements, my own investigations indicate that the two are really just one, AIPAC being a political instrument of the “financial community” which just coincidentally happens to be controlled by US-based Jewish Zionists.

Lenni Brenner estimated in his “Jews in America Today” that somewhere between 20 & 30% of US invested capital was owned by Zionist Jews. Of course it is impossible to verify his calculations, but it seems unlikely given events of the decades since that the Zionist share of the Wall St pie has shrunk significantly. Whatever the facts are, it seems clear that behind all the US Zionist shenanigans must lie a big pot of do-re-mi.
Just how big is a question to pose to our “left economist” and “left Sociologist” friends. Alas, there seems to be a general reluctance to consider such matters, even among pro-Palestine analysts.
I have my own opinions about the cause of this reluctance, but not being a mindreader I will refrain from further speculation:)

You begin by delineating the folly of the foolish; or, rather, by allowing Barbara Kay to reveal it for herself. Just what is this pervasive notion of “balance” in the realm of ideas? How has the notion been corrupted by the “balancing” of “factoids” and half-truths against the actual facts of people suffering the loss of their land, their water, their food, their living, their democratic rights?

Next, you move into rich Orwellian territory. Your apt citation of Orwell shows just how prescient he could be about our modern times. It is worth repeating–and we may hear the echoes of our 20th Century tyrants thudding their steel boots in the background just as we hear our 21st Century prevaricators whipping up the radio frequencies now: “[T]here is now a widespread tendency to argue that one can only defend democracy by totalitarian methods. If one loves democracy, the argument runs, one must crush its enemies by no matter what means. And who are its enemies? It always appears that they are not only those who attack it openly and consciously, but those who ‘objectively’ endanger it by spreading mistaken doctrines. In other words, defending democracy involves destroying all independence of thought.”

Last, you move into Einsteinian perspectives, exhorting us to view the quest for truth from the highest moral grounds–defining who we are, and who we can be, as humans. A bravissimo performance!

I am completely convinced that the gov’t is owned by two factions, financial sector and AIPAC. I would have said corporte, but there are exceptions such as the auto industry.

It has become more evident. Something at this point that cannot be denied — not even by Chomsky one would hope. WRT the auto industry, it is all about busting the union and driving down working class living standards. Capitalism and Zionism which is the basis of “neo-conservatism” has a tight grip on the U.S. political economy.

And in 1944, 1,684 Jews were permitted to enter from Bergen- Belsen as part of the Rudolf Kastner-Adolf Eichmann deal.

When Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey was granted an audience with Ahmadinejad last year, the feminist politician, eager not to offend, donned a head-scarf.

The Swiss Foreign Ministry explains that Berne has a “long-term strategic rationale” for its actions. Some of that rationale was already on display during World War II, in Switzerland’s erratic policies toward Jewish asylum seekers.

When it appeared that Germany would win the war, Switzerland, for the most part, kept Jewish refugees out; but when it appeared the Allies might win, the Swiss reversed course. In the final weeks of the war, they even demanded that the Nazis stop deportations altogether.

Back in 1938, when Berlin was ascendant, the Swiss requested that Germany and Austria mark the passports of their Jewish citizens with a “J” so that Berne could distinguish between “genuine political refugees” and fleeing Jews. A Swiss police captain named Paul Gruninger who allowed thousands of Jews to cross the border illegally was thrown off the force.

But when it suited Swiss “rationale,” Jews were allowed in – from the Netherlands and Belgium in 1941; from Italy in 1943. And in 1944, 1,684 Jews were permitted to enter from Bergen Belen as part of the Rudolf Kastler-Adolf Eichmann deal.

We “all know” that the Jews run the world. But you are claiming that they “run” only half of the world.

It sounds as though Max is getting soft. Maybe he has a Jewish girlfriend??

And I am pleased that Max is usingthe profanity that he learned yesterday in intermediate school. It makes him so much more charming. But what would his Jewish girlfriend say?

Keep on truckìn, bro,
Ron Ridenour

The power structure is bought and owned, and even a slight sway this way or that will bring down the so-called “mightiest”. It seems this strangle hold is stronger now than ever before.

Spitzer was perhaps the best AG in the country, praticularly when it came to the shysters on Wall Street, and he was politically destroyed in an instant even after he had gained incredible support in NY and became the Governor. His replacement, who was suppose to be a progressive, has sworn allegiance to AIPAC and Israel and it’s murderous ways.

As much as I find our corporate owned President an empty suit with a mouth, even his slightest of overtures toward the Palestinians (so-called moderate ones, whatever that means) is being touted by Israeli “intelligence” as endangering the state of Israel. Such maddness makes attempts at critical thinking a joke.

We have a president who kisses APAIC’s collective ass, and ensures the continued flow of arms and billions to the Zionist state, boycotts international talks on racism at APAIC/Zionists’ demand and twists the arms of “allies” to do the same, and he (Obama) is endangering Israel????

And this asshole, laser, posts endlessly on Dissident Voices his vile comments. We know him. He is on the news in one form or another. Must we have his shit posted over and over and over and over on this “critical thinking” blog.

To respond to laser is to be complicit with his and the Zionist agenda.

This is the one and only post that I will ever refer to “him/her” comments or “name” again. I would implore others to do likewise. Stop feeding hate and murder!!!

I know the George to whom you referred

I even made mention of a possible error in logic that you found in what George had to say (Specifically and off point, you made a claim saying he suggested that Zionists were around during a time that included pre-Zionist but nonetheless Jewish converts—He didn’t actually say Zionists did this but that converts who later became Zionists did).

I found fault with much of what he said but am again asking that YOU stick with the matter at hand. Does George’s take render you incapable of addressing the topic? I too like to point out flaws in reasoning and my problems with you and George aside (viable as discussion on their own- no matter how off they may be), let’s get to the meat. What is your take on the article concerning Kay and the media removed from George?

The difference between what he wrote and what the others wrote has no real significance. The diatribes do not become any more factual when the author replaces “Jews” with “Zionists.”

Martin Luther King was aware of that before many of you were even born.

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