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		<title>By: Laurel</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/president-obama-hypocrite-and-hater-on-single-payer-health-care/#comment-49625</link>
		<dc:creator>Laurel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 15:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We need a single payer system.  The health insurance companies are deciding our fate.  Let&#039;s relieve them of that chore, and quit paying premiums.  Then we can pay a reasonable tax for our single payer system.  Insurance companies put a lot of money into advertising and discrediting Michael Moore&#039;s movie, Sicko.  Watch Ed Schultz when he goes to Canada to check out how happy her citizens are with their health plan.  Don&#039;t be afraid of the  word socialism.  What the heck do you think Medicare is?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We need a single payer system.  The health insurance companies are deciding our fate.  Let&#8217;s relieve them of that chore, and quit paying premiums.  Then we can pay a reasonable tax for our single payer system.  Insurance companies put a lot of money into advertising and discrediting Michael Moore&#8217;s movie, Sicko.  Watch Ed Schultz when he goes to Canada to check out how happy her citizens are with their health plan.  Don&#8217;t be afraid of the  word socialism.  What the heck do you think Medicare is?</p>
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		<title>By: Mulga Mumblebrain</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/president-obama-hypocrite-and-hater-on-single-payer-health-care/#comment-42442</link>
		<dc:creator>Mulga Mumblebrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 08:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You Yanks are just going through the process of brutal disillusionment that the Poms endured after the election of Bliar in 1997. After pretending to be something else, Bliar soon revealed himself to be a true-blue Thatcherite, and even worse in the mass murder stakes than the &#039;Iron Alzheimic&#039; itself. And a secret &#039;God-Botherer&#039; as well. 
Here in Australia we have suffered a similar dawning of reality with the ersatz &#039;Labor&#039; regime of Kevin Rudd, another egotist, but with a prissy sanctimoniousness even Bliar lacks. Having succeeded the morally putrid and cynically mendacious Howard regime (whose cappo John Howard had to be surgically removed from George Bush&#039;s &#039;orifice of the fundament&#039; on retirement)Rudd keeps virtually all Howardite policy in place. He prefers joining in the massacre of Afghan women and children to that of Iraqi, but otherwise it is business as before. Total grovelling obeisance to Israel is a speciality, with much contempt for the Palestinians and support for Israel as they eviscerated Gazan children, and a manic scheme of extreme toadyish inventiveness, to attempt to arraign Ahmadinejad before the ICC for &#039;incitement to genocide&#039; over his non-existent calls to &#039;wipe Israel off the map&#039;. The total control of the local political and media worlds by the pro-Israel Lobby provokes great competition in arse-licking between the two Rightwing parties tolerated by the business Bosses of the country.
                  Now, alas, you poor Yanks are getting the treatment. The Obama phenomenon was pretty plainly fraudulent, at least to these cynical eyes, and US ruling elites no doubt hope to see a generation repelled by the betrayal, and be removed from the political process, an advantage of non-compulsory voting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You Yanks are just going through the process of brutal disillusionment that the Poms endured after the election of Bliar in 1997. After pretending to be something else, Bliar soon revealed himself to be a true-blue Thatcherite, and even worse in the mass murder stakes than the &#8216;Iron Alzheimic&#8217; itself. And a secret &#8216;God-Botherer&#8217; as well.<br />
Here in Australia we have suffered a similar dawning of reality with the ersatz &#8216;Labor&#8217; regime of Kevin Rudd, another egotist, but with a prissy sanctimoniousness even Bliar lacks. Having succeeded the morally putrid and cynically mendacious Howard regime (whose cappo John Howard had to be surgically removed from George Bush&#8217;s &#8216;orifice of the fundament&#8217; on retirement)Rudd keeps virtually all Howardite policy in place. He prefers joining in the massacre of Afghan women and children to that of Iraqi, but otherwise it is business as before. Total grovelling obeisance to Israel is a speciality, with much contempt for the Palestinians and support for Israel as they eviscerated Gazan children, and a manic scheme of extreme toadyish inventiveness, to attempt to arraign Ahmadinejad before the ICC for &#8216;incitement to genocide&#8217; over his non-existent calls to &#8216;wipe Israel off the map&#8217;. The total control of the local political and media worlds by the pro-Israel Lobby provokes great competition in arse-licking between the two Rightwing parties tolerated by the business Bosses of the country.<br />
                  Now, alas, you poor Yanks are getting the treatment. The Obama phenomenon was pretty plainly fraudulent, at least to these cynical eyes, and US ruling elites no doubt hope to see a generation repelled by the betrayal, and be removed from the political process, an advantage of non-compulsory voting.</p>
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		<title>By: jude</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/president-obama-hypocrite-and-hater-on-single-payer-health-care/#comment-42432</link>
		<dc:creator>jude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 04:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand that the health forum held March 6 - excluded those championing single payer; until protests begrudgingly allowed a rep at the table. 

 I told my husband- well now the Democrats are in office/ people have waited these long years for medical care - if not now, then it&#039;ll be never. Reading this article - my God who can afford such costs especially in the midst of a DEPRESSION! President O has SIX doctors with him on this European jaunt...while here many doctors refuse those on Medicaid or Medicare. The &#039;news&#039; has shown people DYING on ER floors while waiting hours &amp; hours for treatment! 

A U.S.Congressman (C-Span) told of how they are afforded the choice of five different plans - free prescriptions - dental - eyeglasses and WE pay 72% of their premiums! Unlike the laid off worker, (losing his health care)  they take this coverage with them upon retirement/voted out of office! Thus Sen.Kennedy got immediate care (the best) - President Clinton had his by pass surgery thanks to us - Sen Specter had his cancer surgeries on us etc. 

Little wonder they care nothing about the &#039;herd&#039;. President Obama&#039;s supposed &#039;health coverage&#039; will see RATIONED care with some drone in a cubicle telling your doctor &#039;&quot;Sorry we don&#039;t cover MRI&#039;s or prostate testing et al&quot;. But then these bozos (politicians) are the same ones who feel $7.00 per day is plenty for food stamps (laid off workers) while they slop down all organic foods (private dining rooms) and $150.00 per lb Kobe beef!! God help us it&#039;s business as usual with the corporate hucksters (pharmaceuticals - HMOs - Insurance) calling the shots! 

Meantime trillions are being given out to the &#039;high rollers&#039; who have brought the nation to financial ruination! Forever War - sees the continuing BILLIONS per month (Iraq - Afghanistan) to keep the military industrial complex moneyed. Meantime we&#039;re informed (AHH) that we will be building schools, hospitals, infrastructure in 13th Century Afghanistan while our bridges - levees, damns collapse and a trip to the grocer breaks an axle!  We now have Obamavilles (Tent cities) springing up from Hawaii - Florida - California - Seattle etc --with those suffering the millions in job losses! 

The only secure jobs are political - with them getting obscene pensions (yearly cost of living included in them) and continual medical. I don&#039;t care what Michele Obama is wearing - or that they pay $10,000 per child on dance -music lessons. Property taxes are driving people from their homes, with rising water - electric - home heating oil. I feel sick - just sick. We waited so long for health care and we&#039;re not going to have it. What you will see is the great Die-Off! 

Only the rich will receive care. Have you ever witnessed a senior crying at the prescription counter in a generic mega drug store (they don&#039;t care) because they can&#039;t AFFORD their medicine? I have. But then we pay 4 to 6 times what other countries pay. I had a spinal canal tumor. I so wanted to take the physical therapy for my legs (numb) - I can&#039;t afford it. Please wake up - there is no Messiah - it&#039;s not &#039;change we can believe in&#039; but CHAINS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand that the health forum held March 6 &#8211; excluded those championing single payer; until protests begrudgingly allowed a rep at the table. </p>
<p> I told my husband- well now the Democrats are in office/ people have waited these long years for medical care &#8211; if not now, then it&#8217;ll be never. Reading this article &#8211; my God who can afford such costs especially in the midst of a DEPRESSION! President O has SIX doctors with him on this European jaunt&#8230;while here many doctors refuse those on Medicaid or Medicare. The &#8216;news&#8217; has shown people DYING on ER floors while waiting hours &amp; hours for treatment! </p>
<p>A U.S.Congressman (C-Span) told of how they are afforded the choice of five different plans &#8211; free prescriptions &#8211; dental &#8211; eyeglasses and WE pay 72% of their premiums! Unlike the laid off worker, (losing his health care)  they take this coverage with them upon retirement/voted out of office! Thus Sen.Kennedy got immediate care (the best) &#8211; President Clinton had his by pass surgery thanks to us &#8211; Sen Specter had his cancer surgeries on us etc. </p>
<p>Little wonder they care nothing about the &#8216;herd&#8217;. President Obama&#8217;s supposed &#8216;health coverage&#8217; will see RATIONED care with some drone in a cubicle telling your doctor &#8216;&#8221;Sorry we don&#8217;t cover MRI&#8217;s or prostate testing et al&#8221;. But then these bozos (politicians) are the same ones who feel $7.00 per day is plenty for food stamps (laid off workers) while they slop down all organic foods (private dining rooms) and $150.00 per lb Kobe beef!! God help us it&#8217;s business as usual with the corporate hucksters (pharmaceuticals &#8211; HMOs &#8211; Insurance) calling the shots! </p>
<p>Meantime trillions are being given out to the &#8216;high rollers&#8217; who have brought the nation to financial ruination! Forever War &#8211; sees the continuing BILLIONS per month (Iraq &#8211; Afghanistan) to keep the military industrial complex moneyed. Meantime we&#8217;re informed (AHH) that we will be building schools, hospitals, infrastructure in 13th Century Afghanistan while our bridges &#8211; levees, damns collapse and a trip to the grocer breaks an axle!  We now have Obamavilles (Tent cities) springing up from Hawaii &#8211; Florida &#8211; California &#8211; Seattle etc &#8211;with those suffering the millions in job losses! </p>
<p>The only secure jobs are political &#8211; with them getting obscene pensions (yearly cost of living included in them) and continual medical. I don&#8217;t care what Michele Obama is wearing &#8211; or that they pay $10,000 per child on dance -music lessons. Property taxes are driving people from their homes, with rising water &#8211; electric &#8211; home heating oil. I feel sick &#8211; just sick. We waited so long for health care and we&#8217;re not going to have it. What you will see is the great Die-Off! </p>
<p>Only the rich will receive care. Have you ever witnessed a senior crying at the prescription counter in a generic mega drug store (they don&#8217;t care) because they can&#8217;t AFFORD their medicine? I have. But then we pay 4 to 6 times what other countries pay. I had a spinal canal tumor. I so wanted to take the physical therapy for my legs (numb) &#8211; I can&#8217;t afford it. Please wake up &#8211; there is no Messiah &#8211; it&#8217;s not &#8216;change we can believe in&#8217; but CHAINS.</p>
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		<title>By: rsgrady</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/president-obama-hypocrite-and-hater-on-single-payer-health-care/#comment-42420</link>
		<dc:creator>rsgrady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 23:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The catchy title of this article intrigued me to read it.  I am totally baffled by the author&#039;s position.  Obama never campaigned on a single payer platform so it should be no surprise that he has  continued not to &quot;campaign&quot; on it now that he is in office.  I was a little disappointed that the author did not make a case for a single payer system, other than to say, he wanted it.  Kind of reminds me of my kid when he asks for a brownie.   Too bad, I&#039;m not an advocated for single payer, but was willing to read, listen and learn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The catchy title of this article intrigued me to read it.  I am totally baffled by the author&#8217;s position.  Obama never campaigned on a single payer platform so it should be no surprise that he has  continued not to &#8220;campaign&#8221; on it now that he is in office.  I was a little disappointed that the author did not make a case for a single payer system, other than to say, he wanted it.  Kind of reminds me of my kid when he asks for a brownie.   Too bad, I&#8217;m not an advocated for single payer, but was willing to read, listen and learn.</p>
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		<title>By: lichen</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/president-obama-hypocrite-and-hater-on-single-payer-health-care/#comment-42388</link>
		<dc:creator>lichen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 02:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Single payer healthcare only requires the government to pay the bill; they don&#039;t &quot;manage&quot; anything, Kaelieh.  

It looks as if the special powers of rich washington (and the capitals of many &quot;states&quot;) scum have ensured that we will not have single-payer healthcare, but will instead be locked into a bogus everyone-buyer plan that will not work but will, like the wars, be almost impossible to change to single-payer afterwards because people will become more cynical and the white house will insist on &#039;staying the course.&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Single payer healthcare only requires the government to pay the bill; they don&#8217;t &#8220;manage&#8221; anything, Kaelieh.  </p>
<p>It looks as if the special powers of rich washington (and the capitals of many &#8220;states&#8221;) scum have ensured that we will not have single-payer healthcare, but will instead be locked into a bogus everyone-buyer plan that will not work but will, like the wars, be almost impossible to change to single-payer afterwards because people will become more cynical and the white house will insist on &#8216;staying the course.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Kaelieh</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/president-obama-hypocrite-and-hater-on-single-payer-health-care/#comment-42384</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaelieh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 00:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To hell with Washington, let&#039;s just go to our states to provide universal healthcare. The federal government can&#039;t manage squat, let alone 330 million people.

11 states do not allow medical underwriting when a resident applies for an insurance policy, which for people with pre-existing conditions is golden. But for the 39 states that don&#039;t, people blessed with pre-existing conditions and like never go to the doctor benefit from medical underwriting by getting lower premiums. People with HIV, diabetes, epilepsy, etc get totally screwed by it. Eleven states don&#039;t approve of the practice and thirty-nine either think it&#039;s not their place or don&#039;t think it&#039;s a problem.

I know Switzerland requires their residents to have health insurance, but I don&#039;t know if it works for them or is a total flop like Mass.

Plus, I don&#039;t know about y&#039;all but I am so opposed to electronic medical records. There is no way those records would stay private.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To hell with Washington, let&#8217;s just go to our states to provide universal healthcare. The federal government can&#8217;t manage squat, let alone 330 million people.</p>
<p>11 states do not allow medical underwriting when a resident applies for an insurance policy, which for people with pre-existing conditions is golden. But for the 39 states that don&#8217;t, people blessed with pre-existing conditions and like never go to the doctor benefit from medical underwriting by getting lower premiums. People with HIV, diabetes, epilepsy, etc get totally screwed by it. Eleven states don&#8217;t approve of the practice and thirty-nine either think it&#8217;s not their place or don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a problem.</p>
<p>I know Switzerland requires their residents to have health insurance, but I don&#8217;t know if it works for them or is a total flop like Mass.</p>
<p>Plus, I don&#8217;t know about y&#8217;all but I am so opposed to electronic medical records. There is no way those records would stay private.</p>
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		<title>By: Monkismo</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/president-obama-hypocrite-and-hater-on-single-payer-health-care/#comment-42369</link>
		<dc:creator>Monkismo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 20:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We can&#039;t provide affordable health coverage--which, aside from improving the quality of people&#039;s lives, would give them greater freedom in choosing where and for whom to work--because it would cost jobs in the insurance industry.  

We can&#039;t cut military spending because it would cost thousands of jobs at military contractors and in the military itself.  

And yet both major parties continue to view an expanding population AND an expanding economy as non-negotiable conditions, even though these forces are mutually exclusive in themselves, and almost guarantee a diminishing standard of living for everyone.  

We are whistling through the f-ing graveyard, and Obama&#039;s calling the tune....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We can&#8217;t provide affordable health coverage&#8211;which, aside from improving the quality of people&#8217;s lives, would give them greater freedom in choosing where and for whom to work&#8211;because it would cost jobs in the insurance industry.  </p>
<p>We can&#8217;t cut military spending because it would cost thousands of jobs at military contractors and in the military itself.  </p>
<p>And yet both major parties continue to view an expanding population AND an expanding economy as non-negotiable conditions, even though these forces are mutually exclusive in themselves, and almost guarantee a diminishing standard of living for everyone.  </p>
<p>We are whistling through the f-ing graveyard, and Obama&#8217;s calling the tune&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: pontesisto</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/president-obama-hypocrite-and-hater-on-single-payer-health-care/#comment-42365</link>
		<dc:creator>pontesisto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 19:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you want to help pressure Congress for Single Payer Health Care please join our voting bloc at:  

http://www.votingbloc.org/Health_Bloc.php

If we stand together on this issue we can make it happen!</description>
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<p>If we stand together on this issue we can make it happen!</p>
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