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		<title>By: dk</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/obamas-new-world-order/#comment-43238</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 05:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>damn.michael k.you&#039;re right again.the imf does&#039;nt exist.the g-20 does&#039;nt exist.the obama admin.is&#039;nt funneling trillions of dollars to greedy ,corrupt banksters.you are brilliant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>damn.michael k.you&#8217;re right again.the imf does&#8217;nt exist.the g-20 does&#8217;nt exist.the obama admin.is&#8217;nt funneling trillions of dollars to greedy ,corrupt banksters.you are brilliant.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/obamas-new-world-order/#comment-43188</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 19:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes it should the question is will it happen in time.  98 months and we will probably pass a point that will be damn tuff to slow. It will happen very sure of that and in just a few months we have cap and trade that will not work and that will be hard to pass.  Then Copenhagen that so far doesn&#039;t look good.  Has the decision already been made?  Well things have a way of changing the big problem is time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes it should the question is will it happen in time.  98 months and we will probably pass a point that will be damn tuff to slow. It will happen very sure of that and in just a few months we have cap and trade that will not work and that will be hard to pass.  Then Copenhagen that so far doesn&#8217;t look good.  Has the decision already been made?  Well things have a way of changing the big problem is time.</p>
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		<title>By: phuque yew</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/obamas-new-world-order/#comment-43184</link>
		<dc:creator>phuque yew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 18:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Silly people, especially those proposing how to avoid this collapse or correct that deficiency: it&#039;s the whole economic and social system fabricated and propped by greed and its human disciples that&#039;s fatally flawed.  Capitalism is anathema to life on this planet.  Why argue or discuss whether or not it was planned this way, and what can be done to &quot;salvage&quot; the status quo, ongoing consumption of material for the benefit of wasteful, top-heavy corporations?   Capitalism is unsustainable for life on this planet, as it relies on ever-expanding resource availability and ever-expanding consumption -  neither supply nor demand are sustainable in a physically closed system, such as the one we live on and in.
By now we should all have guns and bombs, out looking for banksters and politicians.  No matter how much you reduce your personal impact on planetary ecology, the greedy gangsters of power will find you to take the land, the water, the trees, the animals, and your very soul to eke out one more minute of consumption and exploitation.  Anyone who really wants to change the world needs to start by removing the toxic individuals who live among us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Silly people, especially those proposing how to avoid this collapse or correct that deficiency: it&#8217;s the whole economic and social system fabricated and propped by greed and its human disciples that&#8217;s fatally flawed.  Capitalism is anathema to life on this planet.  Why argue or discuss whether or not it was planned this way, and what can be done to &#8220;salvage&#8221; the status quo, ongoing consumption of material for the benefit of wasteful, top-heavy corporations?   Capitalism is unsustainable for life on this planet, as it relies on ever-expanding resource availability and ever-expanding consumption &#8211;  neither supply nor demand are sustainable in a physically closed system, such as the one we live on and in.<br />
By now we should all have guns and bombs, out looking for banksters and politicians.  No matter how much you reduce your personal impact on planetary ecology, the greedy gangsters of power will find you to take the land, the water, the trees, the animals, and your very soul to eke out one more minute of consumption and exploitation.  Anyone who really wants to change the world needs to start by removing the toxic individuals who live among us.</p>
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		<title>By: Synic3</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/obamas-new-world-order/#comment-43180</link>
		<dc:creator>Synic3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 17:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deadbeat wrote:
&quot;It is time for Workers of the World to Unite in Solidarity. &quot;
____________________________________________________

Deadbeat,

If you care about the American working class, which I am sure you do,
then what you wrote above is not in its interest.
It implies that the living standards of the American workers will have to decrease sharply  in order that  all working people allover the world
will have the same living standards and consequently the possibility
of solidarity and unity and hopefully not another cycle of competition, knowing the human nature the way it is!!
I think the solution for  the American working class is populism where
where capital and corporations are strictly  regulated and watched with eagle eyes and are not allowed to grow larger than certain zize.
The privately owned Federal Reserve System should be nationalized
and also oil,  gas , coal and logging should be nationalized too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deadbeat wrote:<br />
&#8220;It is time for Workers of the World to Unite in Solidarity. &#8221;<br />
____________________________________________________</p>
<p>Deadbeat,</p>
<p>If you care about the American working class, which I am sure you do,<br />
then what you wrote above is not in its interest.<br />
It implies that the living standards of the American workers will have to decrease sharply  in order that  all working people allover the world<br />
will have the same living standards and consequently the possibility<br />
of solidarity and unity and hopefully not another cycle of competition, knowing the human nature the way it is!!<br />
I think the solution for  the American working class is populism where<br />
where capital and corporations are strictly  regulated and watched with eagle eyes and are not allowed to grow larger than certain zize.<br />
The privately owned Federal Reserve System should be nationalized<br />
and also oil,  gas , coal and logging should be nationalized too.</p>
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		<title>By: bozh</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/obamas-new-world-order/#comment-43173</link>
		<dc:creator>bozh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 16:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think that using the label &quot;american capitalism&quot; i smuch better than using the word &quot;capitalism&quot;, and in whatever sense.
&quot;american capitalism&quot; at once sugests that at least a few aspects differ from UK , german, italian capiatalism.

perhaps one cld contemplate using the label &quot;americanism&quot;.  by this one knows americanism is not germanism, etc.

capitalism, i assert, does not exist in a vacuum; it involves people and all their doings, institutions, laws, classfulness; voracity for drugs/money/power/deceiving.
deceiving selves and others, that is.
and, of course, whenever we think of americanism and its  managers, we shld note that the americanism/its ruling class is the strongest ever; its strength exceeding the strength of almost all  former empires  by at least  thousandsfold or so.
what is rome, greece, persia, babylon? with their spears, tridends, archers, chariot, horses, torches, burnings, etc?
tnx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think that using the label &#8220;american capitalism&#8221; i smuch better than using the word &#8220;capitalism&#8221;, and in whatever sense.<br />
&#8220;american capitalism&#8221; at once sugests that at least a few aspects differ from UK , german, italian capiatalism.</p>
<p>perhaps one cld contemplate using the label &#8220;americanism&#8221;.  by this one knows americanism is not germanism, etc.</p>
<p>capitalism, i assert, does not exist in a vacuum; it involves people and all their doings, institutions, laws, classfulness; voracity for drugs/money/power/deceiving.<br />
deceiving selves and others, that is.<br />
and, of course, whenever we think of americanism and its  managers, we shld note that the americanism/its ruling class is the strongest ever; its strength exceeding the strength of almost all  former empires  by at least  thousandsfold or so.<br />
what is rome, greece, persia, babylon? with their spears, tridends, archers, chariot, horses, torches, burnings, etc?<br />
tnx</p>
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		<title>By: Max Shields</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/obamas-new-world-order/#comment-43168</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Shields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 15:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is, as bozh, is right in saying, necessary to make clear what the US economy really is. It is a mixed economy that has morphed into a corporate finance economy fueled by debt and massive consumption.

It is mixed in that the government/tax payers fund  much of the innovation that exists and is privatized when investers think they can make a fast buck on tax payers seeding the innovation.

Since the Savings and Loan debacle, then the Milken debacle, followed by Enron, and now the massive domino of derivatives, Ponsi Schemes gone wild, and sub-prime, the US government has nationalized bailouts but kept the ownership control private.

This is not &quot;capitalism&quot; in the sense of Adam Smith&#039;s capitalism or classical economics, but a hybred which is predatory, with tentacles throughout the world&#039;s global production.

The US &quot;economy&quot;, such as it is, is not a real economy. It is based on the financial sector. The role of a financial sector is to provide capital to labor and land/resources. Instead, we have a Ponsi scheme finance for finance sake &quot;economy&quot; that has no relationship to wealth in the classical sense; and a monetary system which holds the rest of the world hostage (which is way the US &quot;economy&quot; is too BIG to fail, even though by all calculations it is a FAILED economy).

Workers in the US are not like back in the &#039;30 and &#039;40s. They are basically so fragmented and un-identified and de-unionized, and un-laborized, and what is left is tied directly or indirectly to military spending, that it is a false argument to speak of a &quot;working class&quot; in America as if their is this Eugene Debs labor movement waiting to happen. There could be a massive movement waiting to happen but it is not clear who and from where it will come. It could be a fascistic movement.

But if we are to deal with the problem we shouldn&#039;t fantacize about what we&#039;ve got here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is, as bozh, is right in saying, necessary to make clear what the US economy really is. It is a mixed economy that has morphed into a corporate finance economy fueled by debt and massive consumption.</p>
<p>It is mixed in that the government/tax payers fund  much of the innovation that exists and is privatized when investers think they can make a fast buck on tax payers seeding the innovation.</p>
<p>Since the Savings and Loan debacle, then the Milken debacle, followed by Enron, and now the massive domino of derivatives, Ponsi Schemes gone wild, and sub-prime, the US government has nationalized bailouts but kept the ownership control private.</p>
<p>This is not &#8220;capitalism&#8221; in the sense of Adam Smith&#8217;s capitalism or classical economics, but a hybred which is predatory, with tentacles throughout the world&#8217;s global production.</p>
<p>The US &#8220;economy&#8221;, such as it is, is not a real economy. It is based on the financial sector. The role of a financial sector is to provide capital to labor and land/resources. Instead, we have a Ponsi scheme finance for finance sake &#8220;economy&#8221; that has no relationship to wealth in the classical sense; and a monetary system which holds the rest of the world hostage (which is way the US &#8220;economy&#8221; is too BIG to fail, even though by all calculations it is a FAILED economy).</p>
<p>Workers in the US are not like back in the &#8217;30 and &#8217;40s. They are basically so fragmented and un-identified and de-unionized, and un-laborized, and what is left is tied directly or indirectly to military spending, that it is a false argument to speak of a &#8220;working class&#8221; in America as if their is this Eugene Debs labor movement waiting to happen. There could be a massive movement waiting to happen but it is not clear who and from where it will come. It could be a fascistic movement.</p>
<p>But if we are to deal with the problem we shouldn&#8217;t fantacize about what we&#8217;ve got here.</p>
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		<title>By: bozh</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/obamas-new-world-order/#comment-43165</link>
		<dc:creator>bozh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 14:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>db,
by &quot;capitalism&quot;  i think  you mean to say that the US ruling class will do anything to defend US governance of which integral parts are: two or three or more tiers of jurisprudence, health care, classes,  &#039;education&#039; , interpretations of constitution; absolute obedience from cia, fbi, police, spy agencies, army, privatization of governance, education, etc.

so, i wld suggest that it may be clearer to use the term &quot;US governance&quot;  or &quot;US system&quot;  as both terms encompass all of their aspects which are inseparable from each other. tnx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>db,<br />
by &#8220;capitalism&#8221;  i think  you mean to say that the US ruling class will do anything to defend US governance of which integral parts are: two or three or more tiers of jurisprudence, health care, classes,  &#8216;education&#8217; , interpretations of constitution; absolute obedience from cia, fbi, police, spy agencies, army, privatization of governance, education, etc.</p>
<p>so, i wld suggest that it may be clearer to use the term &#8220;US governance&#8221;  or &#8220;US system&#8221;  as both terms encompass all of their aspects which are inseparable from each other. tnx</p>
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		<title>By: Deadbeat</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/obamas-new-world-order/#comment-43151</link>
		<dc:creator>Deadbeat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 07:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is missing from Lendman&#039;s article is any notion of the attack on Labor that created the wealth that finally ended up in the banks.   There has been a class war going on since the 1970 that flatten workers wages along with tremendous growth in productivity.   Because labor weakened position, the wealth it created didn&#039;t go to it but went to the capitalist class.  Thus to only focus on the activity of the banks ignores the class war against labor.  

In order for the working class to maintain a &quot;Western&quot; living standard it  borrowed the money it needed to maintain consumption.  Also since the ruling class was in a &quot;war&quot; against labor , using a term coined by bozh, &quot;the world plutos&quot; want to &quot;invest&quot; in the U.S. markets.  I don&#039;t necessarily agree that this is all about &quot;imperialism&quot;.  It is ALL about Capitalism.  Clearly the Icelandic &quot;plutos&quot; sold out Icelandic workers.

The question is why does the world plutos want to &quot;invest&quot; in the U.S.  The answer is simple -- the U.S. is the most Capitalistic nation on the planet and will do whatever it takes to protect and defend Capitalism (forget the Constitution).  This is why the world plutos are so willing to by U.S. Treasuries and why the U.S. Dollars contrary to the doom of the U.S. Dollar it strengthen against world currencies until the Fed announced in March that they are going to print dollars to purchase T-Bills at that point the dollar dipped.

Because the U.S. is willing to defend Capitalism the gov&#039;t has only one choice -- to further LOWER the standards of living of the working class.  Who cares whether the gov&#039;t deflates or inflates itself out of the current crisis or whether new regulation are imposed on the banks.  What matters is that Capital is defended at all cost and that can only occur by decreasing living standards and by increasing the level of exploitation on ALL workers.  Thus it is time for the citizens to see themselves as WORKERS and suppress the &quot;identity&quot; politics tendencies especially on the Left.  It is time for Workers of the World to Unite in Solidarity.  

Without a real working class analysis and explanation of how workers are ripped off from the value they produced EVERY DAY by Capitalism then that all of these &quot;technical&quot; explanations like that above will just be self-absorbing faux intellectualism that will end up alienating the working class and at worst misdirect them rather than be elucidating and inspiring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is missing from Lendman&#8217;s article is any notion of the attack on Labor that created the wealth that finally ended up in the banks.   There has been a class war going on since the 1970 that flatten workers wages along with tremendous growth in productivity.   Because labor weakened position, the wealth it created didn&#8217;t go to it but went to the capitalist class.  Thus to only focus on the activity of the banks ignores the class war against labor.  </p>
<p>In order for the working class to maintain a &#8220;Western&#8221; living standard it  borrowed the money it needed to maintain consumption.  Also since the ruling class was in a &#8220;war&#8221; against labor , using a term coined by bozh, &#8220;the world plutos&#8221; want to &#8220;invest&#8221; in the U.S. markets.  I don&#8217;t necessarily agree that this is all about &#8220;imperialism&#8221;.  It is ALL about Capitalism.  Clearly the Icelandic &#8220;plutos&#8221; sold out Icelandic workers.</p>
<p>The question is why does the world plutos want to &#8220;invest&#8221; in the U.S.  The answer is simple &#8212; the U.S. is the most Capitalistic nation on the planet and will do whatever it takes to protect and defend Capitalism (forget the Constitution).  This is why the world plutos are so willing to by U.S. Treasuries and why the U.S. Dollars contrary to the doom of the U.S. Dollar it strengthen against world currencies until the Fed announced in March that they are going to print dollars to purchase T-Bills at that point the dollar dipped.</p>
<p>Because the U.S. is willing to defend Capitalism the gov&#8217;t has only one choice &#8212; to further LOWER the standards of living of the working class.  Who cares whether the gov&#8217;t deflates or inflates itself out of the current crisis or whether new regulation are imposed on the banks.  What matters is that Capital is defended at all cost and that can only occur by decreasing living standards and by increasing the level of exploitation on ALL workers.  Thus it is time for the citizens to see themselves as WORKERS and suppress the &#8220;identity&#8221; politics tendencies especially on the Left.  It is time for Workers of the World to Unite in Solidarity.  </p>
<p>Without a real working class analysis and explanation of how workers are ripped off from the value they produced EVERY DAY by Capitalism then that all of these &#8220;technical&#8221; explanations like that above will just be self-absorbing faux intellectualism that will end up alienating the working class and at worst misdirect them rather than be elucidating and inspiring.</p>
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		<title>By: Synic3</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/obamas-new-world-order/#comment-43139</link>
		<dc:creator>Synic3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 02:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Michael Hudson wrote is very informative,  very correct and
very true. 
To those who are saying  &quot;ha another complex conspiracy theory&quot;, I say
there is nothing  comlex here.   What is complex about lending money
to people in need in amounts in excess of their ablility  pay it back,
then taking their properties , labor and resources as payment,  leaving
them poorer and worse off.
Nothing complex and it is very simple, but this basic fact is burried 
under tons of bullshit from the MSM  , &quot;think tanks&quot;  hacks and academia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Michael Hudson wrote is very informative,  very correct and<br />
very true.<br />
To those who are saying  &#8220;ha another complex conspiracy theory&#8221;, I say<br />
there is nothing  comlex here.   What is complex about lending money<br />
to people in need in amounts in excess of their ablility  pay it back,<br />
then taking their properties , labor and resources as payment,  leaving<br />
them poorer and worse off.<br />
Nothing complex and it is very simple, but this basic fact is burried<br />
under tons of bullshit from the MSM  , &#8220;think tanks&#8221;  hacks and academia.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/obamas-new-world-order/#comment-43103</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 15:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Obama administration might agree to auction only a portion of the emissions allowances granted at first under a cap-and-trade system to limit greenhouse gas pollution, White House science adviser John P. Holdren said yesterday, a move that would please electric utilities and manufacturers but could anger environmentalists.   OOPS

  Does the Obama administration understand how serious climate change is and that we are all out of time, yes. So why more band-aids cap and trade is business as usually does little to solve the problem and now maybe a watered down bill could pass?  My best guess is the problem is to big for them and in college no class was offered on this subject.  There are people who could help but will never be asked at least so far why is that and these people act so tuff.  Why do I keep bring up cap and trade because in the course of human events this is a big one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Obama administration might agree to auction only a portion of the emissions allowances granted at first under a cap-and-trade system to limit greenhouse gas pollution, White House science adviser John P. Holdren said yesterday, a move that would please electric utilities and manufacturers but could anger environmentalists.   OOPS</p>
<p>  Does the Obama administration understand how serious climate change is and that we are all out of time, yes. So why more band-aids cap and trade is business as usually does little to solve the problem and now maybe a watered down bill could pass?  My best guess is the problem is to big for them and in college no class was offered on this subject.  There are people who could help but will never be asked at least so far why is that and these people act so tuff.  Why do I keep bring up cap and trade because in the course of human events this is a big one.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/obamas-new-world-order/#comment-43088</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 12:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last night on CNN someone said that Somalia doesn&#039;t have a functioning government. My first thought was kind of like the United States.  For me to watch in the States these so called leaders is amazing sort of.  They seem to be consumed by there petty differences.  Petty yes petty when compared to the real problems that face us all.  I am sure climate change and just how serious it really is could have something to do with that.  Do they all know how serious it is, yes and some have made the decision to not try and the ones who do want to try are still using band-aids.  It&#039;s big very big and they have never had to deal with such a problem.  I guess the thinking has always&#039; been bigger, faster, stronger more is better and to do what is needed requires a little change in that thinking.  Right now they seem to be fighting over the money as always&#039; and a better way to put it is they are fighting over the debt.  There is this one debt that we all must bring back to about 350ppm or lower or the rest is academic.  About ten years ago the problem was still up in the air so to speak not anymore and moving much faster than first thought.  Now it is all playing out in strange way&#039;s very strange way&#039;s.  For a few pitting one side against the other is there answer and crazy talk is how they do that.  Illusion of knowledge and it works sort of the problem is still there just put off until tomorrow. Tomorrow tomorrow it&#039;s only a day away.  Putting these problems off for there kid&#039;s and there kind&#039;s is pathetic and they should be ashamed of themselves but they all act so tuff. Mr. President your rocket is ready waiting on your order sir.  What is today Sunday?  Let&#039;s sing.

Then we call to the man who walks on the water
We talk of a plan to stop all the slaughter in view
It’s in view

Granite charades are played in the rain
Till we fall through a sand castle window
To avoid the pain
Summer canoe paddles up to you
‘Cause it’s time for another beer run
Or something that’s equally true

Then we call to the man who walks on the water
We talk of a plan to stop all the slaughter in view

Then we call to the man who walks on the water
We talk of a plan to stop all the slaughter in view
It’s in view

 And remember unalloyed economic power people you talk of a plan to stop all the slaughter and you talk and you talk and you talk.  By all means keep fighting using your illusion of knowledge it makes great TV at least for awhile longer and what do you think build more wall&#039;s yes more wall&#039;s that will do the trick.  It’s in view???  There&#039;s that darn question mark again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last night on CNN someone said that Somalia doesn&#8217;t have a functioning government. My first thought was kind of like the United States.  For me to watch in the States these so called leaders is amazing sort of.  They seem to be consumed by there petty differences.  Petty yes petty when compared to the real problems that face us all.  I am sure climate change and just how serious it really is could have something to do with that.  Do they all know how serious it is, yes and some have made the decision to not try and the ones who do want to try are still using band-aids.  It&#8217;s big very big and they have never had to deal with such a problem.  I guess the thinking has always&#8217; been bigger, faster, stronger more is better and to do what is needed requires a little change in that thinking.  Right now they seem to be fighting over the money as always&#8217; and a better way to put it is they are fighting over the debt.  There is this one debt that we all must bring back to about 350ppm or lower or the rest is academic.  About ten years ago the problem was still up in the air so to speak not anymore and moving much faster than first thought.  Now it is all playing out in strange way&#8217;s very strange way&#8217;s.  For a few pitting one side against the other is there answer and crazy talk is how they do that.  Illusion of knowledge and it works sort of the problem is still there just put off until tomorrow. Tomorrow tomorrow it&#8217;s only a day away.  Putting these problems off for there kid&#8217;s and there kind&#8217;s is pathetic and they should be ashamed of themselves but they all act so tuff. Mr. President your rocket is ready waiting on your order sir.  What is today Sunday?  Let&#8217;s sing.</p>
<p>Then we call to the man who walks on the water<br />
We talk of a plan to stop all the slaughter in view<br />
It’s in view</p>
<p>Granite charades are played in the rain<br />
Till we fall through a sand castle window<br />
To avoid the pain<br />
Summer canoe paddles up to you<br />
‘Cause it’s time for another beer run<br />
Or something that’s equally true</p>
<p>Then we call to the man who walks on the water<br />
We talk of a plan to stop all the slaughter in view</p>
<p>Then we call to the man who walks on the water<br />
We talk of a plan to stop all the slaughter in view<br />
It’s in view</p>
<p> And remember unalloyed economic power people you talk of a plan to stop all the slaughter and you talk and you talk and you talk.  By all means keep fighting using your illusion of knowledge it makes great TV at least for awhile longer and what do you think build more wall&#8217;s yes more wall&#8217;s that will do the trick.  It’s in view???  There&#8217;s that darn question mark again.</p>
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		<title>By: Trevor</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/obamas-new-world-order/#comment-43072</link>
		<dc:creator>Trevor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 06:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regardless of whether it was a planned conspiracy or merely the next stage that a financial elite must pursue as capitalism degenerates, it does seem to be exactly what is happening. 

The only ones in an economic collapse who never suffer are the bond holders. We can all be impoverished, starving and dying. The infrastructure can be in abject decay.  But by God the rich bond holders MUST be paid no matter the cost to people and society.  We don&#039;t want the bond holders to suffer. Why,  if the bond holders suffer, they might not &quot;help&quot; us with more loans in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regardless of whether it was a planned conspiracy or merely the next stage that a financial elite must pursue as capitalism degenerates, it does seem to be exactly what is happening. </p>
<p>The only ones in an economic collapse who never suffer are the bond holders. We can all be impoverished, starving and dying. The infrastructure can be in abject decay.  But by God the rich bond holders MUST be paid no matter the cost to people and society.  We don&#8217;t want the bond holders to suffer. Why,  if the bond holders suffer, they might not &#8220;help&#8221; us with more loans in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/obamas-new-world-order/#comment-43039</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 21:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I watch these people on TV they seem like a militant bunch and just not to bright.  Granted there illusion of knowledge is some of the best but still that just an illusion.  Oh you just don&#039;t like rich people no I don&#039;t like people who are destroying this planet for life so they can live in an optical delusion of conscience ness.  Ticker symbol GS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I watch these people on TV they seem like a militant bunch and just not to bright.  Granted there illusion of knowledge is some of the best but still that just an illusion.  Oh you just don&#8217;t like rich people no I don&#8217;t like people who are destroying this planet for life so they can live in an optical delusion of conscience ness.  Ticker symbol GS.</p>
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		<title>By: Max Shields</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/obamas-new-world-order/#comment-43037</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Shields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 20:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Hudson has advised, insisted, is to take all resources and nationalize, keep them in the public domain which would have averted, in the case of the former Soviet Union, the crushing destruction of millions of Russians lives with the extreme concentration of wealth (ownership of all those resources) in the hands of a few Kleptocrats.

Interestingly Gorbachev was became a proponent of (what I&#039;ll call the) Hudson&#039;s program; but to no avail. I understand that Putin also has found merit in it. 

Yelstin was the West&#039;s puppet for the use of this radical capitalistic predatory shock therapy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Hudson has advised, insisted, is to take all resources and nationalize, keep them in the public domain which would have averted, in the case of the former Soviet Union, the crushing destruction of millions of Russians lives with the extreme concentration of wealth (ownership of all those resources) in the hands of a few Kleptocrats.</p>
<p>Interestingly Gorbachev was became a proponent of (what I&#8217;ll call the) Hudson&#8217;s program; but to no avail. I understand that Putin also has found merit in it. </p>
<p>Yelstin was the West&#8217;s puppet for the use of this radical capitalistic predatory shock therapy.</p>
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		<title>By: Max Shields</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/obamas-new-world-order/#comment-43035</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Shields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 20:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find the article very instructive not because of some  &quot;conspiratorial&quot; text or subtext, but just because there is a system (very humanly created) predatory nature which results in the case of Island and others.

I don&#039;t know that the intent of the so-called &quot;economic shock doctrine&quot; is done to destroy, say, the collapsed Soviet Union, but to actually do the opposite with benefit to the West. It doesn&#039;t work, but it serves a purpose, and one that works for various actors and they thrive within the trade system we&#039;ve come to call neoliberalism.

These actors work for their own benefits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find the article very instructive not because of some  &#8220;conspiratorial&#8221; text or subtext, but just because there is a system (very humanly created) predatory nature which results in the case of Island and others.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know that the intent of the so-called &#8220;economic shock doctrine&#8221; is done to destroy, say, the collapsed Soviet Union, but to actually do the opposite with benefit to the West. It doesn&#8217;t work, but it serves a purpose, and one that works for various actors and they thrive within the trade system we&#8217;ve come to call neoliberalism.</p>
<p>These actors work for their own benefits.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/obamas-new-world-order/#comment-43033</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 20:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why doesn&#039;t everybody make everything so hard.  A lot of money must be created compound interest is one very good way and pretty much anyway way they can so they only a few can siphon the cream off the top.  The system now with what we know will destroy the Earth for most live forms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why doesn&#8217;t everybody make everything so hard.  A lot of money must be created compound interest is one very good way and pretty much anyway way they can so they only a few can siphon the cream off the top.  The system now with what we know will destroy the Earth for most live forms.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/obamas-new-world-order/#comment-43029</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me suggest that it is well nigh impossible for any group to construct such a complex conspiracy as the author has here suggested.

I offer instead a series of short-term decisions meant to stave off calamity by the finance industry and the taking of short-term advantages by opportunists with no real thought to the long-term results.

I think this is much more in keeping with the poor decision-making abilities of leaders of complex systems and much better reflects the historical record of human efforts.

People just aren&#039;t that smart!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me suggest that it is well nigh impossible for any group to construct such a complex conspiracy as the author has here suggested.</p>
<p>I offer instead a series of short-term decisions meant to stave off calamity by the finance industry and the taking of short-term advantages by opportunists with no real thought to the long-term results.</p>
<p>I think this is much more in keeping with the poor decision-making abilities of leaders of complex systems and much better reflects the historical record of human efforts.</p>
<p>People just aren&#8217;t that smart!</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/obamas-new-world-order/#comment-43027</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The system is total corrupt and will destroy this planet for most live forms how&#039;s that for a conspiracy theory?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The system is total corrupt and will destroy this planet for most live forms how&#8217;s that for a conspiracy theory?</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Lendman</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/obamas-new-world-order/#comment-43026</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Lendman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hudson has advised various countries like Iceland. Problem is they didn&#039;t take his advice - like what he wrote in his mini-book length article. He&#039;s pleading with them to throw the bums out, predator banks, that is, Wall Street ones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hudson has advised various countries like Iceland. Problem is they didn&#8217;t take his advice &#8211; like what he wrote in his mini-book length article. He&#8217;s pleading with them to throw the bums out, predator banks, that is, Wall Street ones.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Kenny</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/obamas-new-world-order/#comment-43024</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Kenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The global economic crisis was no accident.&quot; Oh God, not another conspiracy theory! This time the Protocols of the Elders of Wall Street!  Alexander Cockburn once proposed a test for conspiracy theories: they&#039;re not credible if the plan is too complex (something always goes wrong) or too many people have to be in on the secret (somebody always blabs). This one fails on both counts!

As for Michael Hudson, he no longer reminds us that he is a former adviser to the Government of Latvia. I&#039;m not surprised! If that country is in a mess now, doesn&#039;t that mean that he gave it very bad advice? And if his advice was so bad then, why is it suddenly credible now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The global economic crisis was no accident.&#8221; Oh God, not another conspiracy theory! This time the Protocols of the Elders of Wall Street!  Alexander Cockburn once proposed a test for conspiracy theories: they&#8217;re not credible if the plan is too complex (something always goes wrong) or too many people have to be in on the secret (somebody always blabs). This one fails on both counts!</p>
<p>As for Michael Hudson, he no longer reminds us that he is a former adviser to the Government of Latvia. I&#8217;m not surprised! If that country is in a mess now, doesn&#8217;t that mean that he gave it very bad advice? And if his advice was so bad then, why is it suddenly credible now?</p>
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