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	<title>Comments on: Obama&#8217;s Cockeyed Optimism: &#8220;We are starting to see glimmers of hope across the economy.&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Tennessee-Chavizta</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/obamas-cockeyed-optimism-we-are-starting-to-see-glimmers-of-hope-across-the-economy/#comment-43902</link>
		<dc:creator>Tennessee-Chavizta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 15:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tales of the Tribe - PART 18

Revolt of the goyim 

full article at:
http://www.johnkaminski.info/pages/tales_of_the_tribe/18_revolt_of_the_goyim.htm.&quot; </description>
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<p>Revolt of the goyim </p>
<p>full article at:<br />
<a href="http://www.johnkaminski.info/pages/tales_of_the_tribe/18_revolt_of_the_goyim.htm." rel="nofollow">http://www.johnkaminski.info/pages/tales_of_the_tribe/18_revolt_of_the_goyim.htm.</a>&#8220;</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Sutton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Sutton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 14:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are unfortunately correct in your analysis of the flippant way the mainstream media believe the stock market is an indicator of general economic health and how that by having a wee rise in a few stocks or shares MUST signal everything is OK....idiots.

Recovery, don&#039;t make me laugh!! I am getting lambasted as a gloom and doom merchant by all I know when I say the US is on it&#039;s last legs and there will be food riots before Xmas...

Have you looked at the Alt-A loans even BO ? No ? they will make subprime look like a good deal in 12 months time. 

Have you looked at commercial and commercial property loans BO ? No ? Then Don&#039;t. Trust me on this one.

Have you looked at the amount of money borrowed by farmers in the last 10 years compared to the last 12 months BO ? No ? Really? There will be a lot of hungry mouths in December I can assure you....

P.S BO - The only green shoots I see are in all the new allotments and newly dug vegetable patches that are replacing lawns and gardens all over the country in preparation....</description>
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<p>Recovery, don&#8217;t make me laugh!! I am getting lambasted as a gloom and doom merchant by all I know when I say the US is on it&#8217;s last legs and there will be food riots before Xmas&#8230;</p>
<p>Have you looked at the Alt-A loans even BO ? No ? they will make subprime look like a good deal in 12 months time. </p>
<p>Have you looked at commercial and commercial property loans BO ? No ? Then Don&#8217;t. Trust me on this one.</p>
<p>Have you looked at the amount of money borrowed by farmers in the last 10 years compared to the last 12 months BO ? No ? Really? There will be a lot of hungry mouths in December I can assure you&#8230;.</p>
<p>P.S BO &#8211; The only green shoots I see are in all the new allotments and newly dug vegetable patches that are replacing lawns and gardens all over the country in preparation&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 09:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>belfasttelegraph.co.uk
1,500 farmers commit mass suicide in India
Wednesday, 15 April 2009 

Over 1,500 farmers in an Indian state committed suicide after being driven to debt by crop failure, it was reported today. 
The agricultural state of Chattisgarh was hit by falling water levels. 
&quot;The water level has gone down below 250 feet here. It used to be at 40 feet a few years ago,&quot; Shatrughan Sahu, a villager in one of the districts, told Down To Earth magazine 
&quot;Most of the farmers here are indebted and only God can save the ones who do not have a bore well.&quot; 
Mr Sahu lives in a district that recorded 206 farmer suicides last year. Police records for the district add that many deaths occur due to debt and economic distress. 
In another village nearby, Beturam Sahu, who owned two acres of land was among those who committed suicide. His crop is yet to be harvested, but his son Lakhnu left to take up a job as a manual labourer. 
His family must repay a debt of £400 and the crop this year is poor. 
&quot;The crop is so bad this year that we will not even be able to save any seeds,&quot; said Lakhnu&#039;s friend Santosh. &quot;There were no rains at all.&quot; 
&quot;That&#039;s why Lakhnu left even before harvesting the crop. There is nothing left to harvest in his land this time. He is worried how he will repay these loans.&quot; 
Bharatendu Prakash, from the Organic Farming Association of India, told the Press Association: &quot;Farmers&#039; suicides are increasing due to a vicious circle created by money lenders. They lure farmers to take money but when the crops fail, they are left with no option other than death.&quot; 
Mr Prakash added that the government ought to take up the cause of the poor farmers just as they fight for a strong economy. 
&quot;Development should be for all. The government blames us for being against development. Forest area is depleting and dams are constructed without proper planning. 
All this contributes to dipping water levels. Farmers should be taken into consideration when planning policies,&quot; he said. 

&quot;Farmers&#039; suicides are increasing due to a vicious circle created by money lenders. They lure farmers to take money but when the crops fail, they are left with no option other than death.&quot;

&quot;The crop is so bad this year that we will not even be able to save any seeds,&quot; said Lakhnu&#039;s friend Santosh. &quot;There were no rains at all.&quot;  &quot;There were no rains at all.&quot; 

    That&#039;s just India and China a few minor problems with climate, weather.  In the States getting bad not as bad as India or China yet but do we see a vicious circle created by money lenders?  You know this is America it&#039;s going up for ever and pay no attention to that small witting at the end where did I put that notary stamp has to be notarized.  Remember unemployment is a lagging indicator that is a fancy term used by economists.   BOOYAH</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>belfasttelegraph.co.uk<br />
1,500 farmers commit mass suicide in India<br />
Wednesday, 15 April 2009 </p>
<p>Over 1,500 farmers in an Indian state committed suicide after being driven to debt by crop failure, it was reported today.<br />
The agricultural state of Chattisgarh was hit by falling water levels.<br />
&#8220;The water level has gone down below 250 feet here. It used to be at 40 feet a few years ago,&#8221; Shatrughan Sahu, a villager in one of the districts, told Down To Earth magazine<br />
&#8220;Most of the farmers here are indebted and only God can save the ones who do not have a bore well.&#8221;<br />
Mr Sahu lives in a district that recorded 206 farmer suicides last year. Police records for the district add that many deaths occur due to debt and economic distress.<br />
In another village nearby, Beturam Sahu, who owned two acres of land was among those who committed suicide. His crop is yet to be harvested, but his son Lakhnu left to take up a job as a manual labourer.<br />
His family must repay a debt of £400 and the crop this year is poor.<br />
&#8220;The crop is so bad this year that we will not even be able to save any seeds,&#8221; said Lakhnu&#8217;s friend Santosh. &#8220;There were no rains at all.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;That&#8217;s why Lakhnu left even before harvesting the crop. There is nothing left to harvest in his land this time. He is worried how he will repay these loans.&#8221;<br />
Bharatendu Prakash, from the Organic Farming Association of India, told the Press Association: &#8220;Farmers&#8217; suicides are increasing due to a vicious circle created by money lenders. They lure farmers to take money but when the crops fail, they are left with no option other than death.&#8221;<br />
Mr Prakash added that the government ought to take up the cause of the poor farmers just as they fight for a strong economy.<br />
&#8220;Development should be for all. The government blames us for being against development. Forest area is depleting and dams are constructed without proper planning.<br />
All this contributes to dipping water levels. Farmers should be taken into consideration when planning policies,&#8221; he said. </p>
<p>&#8220;Farmers&#8217; suicides are increasing due to a vicious circle created by money lenders. They lure farmers to take money but when the crops fail, they are left with no option other than death.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;The crop is so bad this year that we will not even be able to save any seeds,&#8221; said Lakhnu&#8217;s friend Santosh. &#8220;There were no rains at all.&#8221;  &#8220;There were no rains at all.&#8221; </p>
<p>    That&#8217;s just India and China a few minor problems with climate, weather.  In the States getting bad not as bad as India or China yet but do we see a vicious circle created by money lenders?  You know this is America it&#8217;s going up for ever and pay no attention to that small witting at the end where did I put that notary stamp has to be notarized.  Remember unemployment is a lagging indicator that is a fancy term used by economists.   BOOYAH</p>
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		<title>By: Suthiano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suthiano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 07:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Rhymes With Waziristan?

Canada is full of Obamacons.

In Ottawa, they even altered the famed delectable treat the ‘beaver tail’ to create the ‘Obama tail’.

When, in a 3rd year level course at the ‘respected’ University of Toronto, my professor (with a PHD!) began the course by talking about the ‘amazing Barack Obama’ and promising that we would be studying some of his speeches later in the year, I knew I was in the wrong place, that is if enlightenment was my goal.

I challenged the professor by bringing in genetics (because she also played a clip from Thank You For Smoking, which stars the handsome [no I’m not ‘gay’, you’re projecting] Aaron Eckhart). What role does genetics play in rhetoric? If you have a pretty face, and one that simultaneously triggers deep-seeded feelings of guilt in a large percentage of the population exactly when they are most discouraged with the alternative, does it really matter if you say anything more substantial than HOPE and CHANGE?

Of course I use rhetoric too; that is, there is a structure to the way my sentences flow.

.beginning the before end the give don’t I

Okay. So what? Am I talking because I am interested in philosophy [philo sophia, a love of wisdom?], or am I talking because it’s a, a job, a profession that brings in the cash?

Intent will keep coming up, so maybe you will be able to tell me mine by the end of this spiel. I certainly don’t expect you to take my professions of intent as truth. I don’t have to. I’m not afraid of analysis. This is another difference between rhetoricians (sophists) and myself that will continue to rear its head. Because of my rhetoric?

So let’s look at Obama and the Af-Pak war. We can study rhetoric and determine what is actually happening.?

On one side we have ‘glimmers of hope’, on the other we have more and more and more of the following:

“An anonymous intelligence official with long experience in Pakistan told McClatchy News that &quot;it&#039;s a disaster in the making on the scale of the Iranian revolution,&quot; and that &quot;the implications of this are disastrous for the U.S. The supply lines [from Karachi to U.S. military bases] in Kandahar and Kabul from the south and east will be cut, or at least they&#039;ll be less secure, and probably sooner rather than later. That will jeopardize the mission in Afghanistan, especially now that it&#039;s getting bigger.&quot;

Another Pentagon adviser speaking on condition of anonymity told McClatchy, &quot;The place is beyond redemption. I think Pakistan is moving toward a situation where the extremists control virtually all of the countryside and the government controls only the urban centers,&quot; he continued. &quot;If you look out 10 years, I think the government will be overrun by Islamic militants.&quot; The experts interviewed for the article insisted that their views weren&#039;t “worst case scenarios” but were &quot;realistic expectations&quot; for the coming months.

David Kilcullen, former military adviser to General Petraeus and a top expert on guerilla warfare, was recently quoted in the New York Times as saying, “within one to six months we could see the collapse of the Pakistani state,” creating a civil conflict that would “dwarf” current crises” (http://rawstory.com/news/2008/American_officials_predict_dangerous_insurgency_collapse_0418.html).

Even as I write a, ‘US Drone Strike Kills 8 Civilians In South Waziristan’ http://news.antiwar.com/2009/04/19/us-drone-strike-kills-up-to-eight-in-south-waziristan/.

But aren&#039;t Obama’s professed motives stability and fighting extremism?

Can we attempt to verify this information?

Run an ‘either or test’: either Obama is an absolute moron, totally ignorant of history, or his intentions differ from his professed motives.

Well we know that Obama is an Ivy Leaguer. So, he defiantly knows about the 1954 CIA instigated overthrow of the Iranian parliamentary system (the resulting ‘revolution’) and the ensuing buttressing of the brutal Shah. He is definitely familiar with the concept of ‘blow back’.

So ‘either&#039; seems ridiculous, and we’re left only with ‘or’.


Hey, Obama Man!

What&#039;s the sincere plan in South Waziristan?

Suthiano</description>
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<p>Canada is full of Obamacons.</p>
<p>In Ottawa, they even altered the famed delectable treat the ‘beaver tail’ to create the ‘Obama tail’.</p>
<p>When, in a 3rd year level course at the ‘respected’ University of Toronto, my professor (with a PHD!) began the course by talking about the ‘amazing Barack Obama’ and promising that we would be studying some of his speeches later in the year, I knew I was in the wrong place, that is if enlightenment was my goal.</p>
<p>I challenged the professor by bringing in genetics (because she also played a clip from Thank You For Smoking, which stars the handsome [no I’m not ‘gay’, you’re projecting] Aaron Eckhart). What role does genetics play in rhetoric? If you have a pretty face, and one that simultaneously triggers deep-seeded feelings of guilt in a large percentage of the population exactly when they are most discouraged with the alternative, does it really matter if you say anything more substantial than HOPE and CHANGE?</p>
<p>Of course I use rhetoric too; that is, there is a structure to the way my sentences flow.</p>
<p>.beginning the before end the give don’t I</p>
<p>Okay. So what? Am I talking because I am interested in philosophy [philo sophia, a love of wisdom?], or am I talking because it’s a, a job, a profession that brings in the cash?</p>
<p>Intent will keep coming up, so maybe you will be able to tell me mine by the end of this spiel. I certainly don’t expect you to take my professions of intent as truth. I don’t have to. I’m not afraid of analysis. This is another difference between rhetoricians (sophists) and myself that will continue to rear its head. Because of my rhetoric?</p>
<p>So let’s look at Obama and the Af-Pak war. We can study rhetoric and determine what is actually happening.?</p>
<p>On one side we have ‘glimmers of hope’, on the other we have more and more and more of the following:</p>
<p>“An anonymous intelligence official with long experience in Pakistan told McClatchy News that &#8220;it&#8217;s a disaster in the making on the scale of the Iranian revolution,&#8221; and that &#8220;the implications of this are disastrous for the U.S. The supply lines [from Karachi to U.S. military bases] in Kandahar and Kabul from the south and east will be cut, or at least they&#8217;ll be less secure, and probably sooner rather than later. That will jeopardize the mission in Afghanistan, especially now that it&#8217;s getting bigger.&#8221;</p>
<p>Another Pentagon adviser speaking on condition of anonymity told McClatchy, &#8220;The place is beyond redemption. I think Pakistan is moving toward a situation where the extremists control virtually all of the countryside and the government controls only the urban centers,&#8221; he continued. &#8220;If you look out 10 years, I think the government will be overrun by Islamic militants.&#8221; The experts interviewed for the article insisted that their views weren&#8217;t “worst case scenarios” but were &#8220;realistic expectations&#8221; for the coming months.</p>
<p>David Kilcullen, former military adviser to General Petraeus and a top expert on guerilla warfare, was recently quoted in the New York Times as saying, “within one to six months we could see the collapse of the Pakistani state,” creating a civil conflict that would “dwarf” current crises” (<a href="http://rawstory.com/news/2008/American_officials_predict_dangerous_insurgency_collapse_0418.html)" rel="nofollow">http://rawstory.com/news/2008/American_officials_predict_dangerous_insurgency_collapse_0418.html)</a>.</p>
<p>Even as I write a, ‘US Drone Strike Kills 8 Civilians In South Waziristan’ <a href="http://news.antiwar.com/2009/04/19/us-drone-strike-kills-up-to-eight-in-south-waziristan/" rel="nofollow">http://news.antiwar.com/2009/04/19/us-drone-strike-kills-up-to-eight-in-south-waziristan/</a>.</p>
<p>But aren&#8217;t Obama’s professed motives stability and fighting extremism?</p>
<p>Can we attempt to verify this information?</p>
<p>Run an ‘either or test’: either Obama is an absolute moron, totally ignorant of history, or his intentions differ from his professed motives.</p>
<p>Well we know that Obama is an Ivy Leaguer. So, he defiantly knows about the 1954 CIA instigated overthrow of the Iranian parliamentary system (the resulting ‘revolution’) and the ensuing buttressing of the brutal Shah. He is definitely familiar with the concept of ‘blow back’.</p>
<p>So ‘either&#8217; seems ridiculous, and we’re left only with ‘or’.</p>
<p>Hey, Obama Man!</p>
<p>What&#8217;s the sincere plan in South Waziristan?</p>
<p>Suthiano</p>
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		<title>By: RH2</title>
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		<dc:creator>RH2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 19:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tennessee-Chavizta,

I do hope that the Americans will found a competitive third party for their good and the good of the world, a project which requires activists, money and media. The modest trial of Nadir has obviously failed. You write that the reality of poverty is waking up American people. Had it been much different years ago? Here in Europe we have been hearing things for years about conditions in the U.S.: hire and fire, getting 2 jobs a day, insufficient health care ... etc.</description>
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<p>I do hope that the Americans will found a competitive third party for their good and the good of the world, a project which requires activists, money and media. The modest trial of Nadir has obviously failed. You write that the reality of poverty is waking up American people. Had it been much different years ago? Here in Europe we have been hearing things for years about conditions in the U.S.: hire and fire, getting 2 jobs a day, insufficient health care &#8230; etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Tennessee-Chavizta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tennessee-Chavizta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 17:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THE REALITY OF POVERTY IS WAKING UP AMERICAN PEOPLE !!

even some friends and relatives of mine thought somehow politics wasn&#039;t relevant, and that there was some individualist alas Robinson Crusoe way to escape the poverty-hell in this world thru individualist solutions like e-bay, getting 2 jobs a day, etc.  And they thought that they could escape poverty divorced from politics (How wrong they were)!!

 And now they have been telling me that ebay business is going down, they are waking up to reality. They are telling me that USA needs a people&#039;s party (A thrid party) and they are not even too polisized, not even socialists nor republicans.

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<p>even some friends and relatives of mine thought somehow politics wasn&#8217;t relevant, and that there was some individualist alas Robinson Crusoe way to escape the poverty-hell in this world thru individualist solutions like e-bay, getting 2 jobs a day, etc.  And they thought that they could escape poverty divorced from politics (How wrong they were)!!</p>
<p> And now they have been telling me that ebay business is going down, they are waking up to reality. They are telling me that USA needs a people&#8217;s party (A thrid party) and they are not even too polisized, not even socialists nor republicans.</p>
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		<title>By: Tennessee-Chavizta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tennessee-Chavizta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 16:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I HATE POVERTY, AND I WISH I WAS RICHER.  HOWEVER THE ONLY WAY TO ESCAPE ECONOMIC LIMITATIONS AND POVERTY IS THRU POLITICS !!

i wish i was rich , everybody loves wealth and being comfortable, but the reality is that in this plutocratic-economic system only a few get a big piece of the economic pie. Individually we can&#039;t escape economic limitations tha americans are facing.   There is no anti-political solution to a human&#039;s problems.

The only solution is an electoral, political solution for every thing in this world.  I have learned that politics is the real tool that people have to fix their lifestyles. 

However only in 2012 we can do that (provided that there was a third people&#039;s party as an option)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I HATE POVERTY, AND I WISH I WAS RICHER.  HOWEVER THE ONLY WAY TO ESCAPE ECONOMIC LIMITATIONS AND POVERTY IS THRU POLITICS !!</p>
<p>i wish i was rich , everybody loves wealth and being comfortable, but the reality is that in this plutocratic-economic system only a few get a big piece of the economic pie. Individually we can&#8217;t escape economic limitations tha americans are facing.   There is no anti-political solution to a human&#8217;s problems.</p>
<p>The only solution is an electoral, political solution for every thing in this world.  I have learned that politics is the real tool that people have to fix their lifestyles. </p>
<p>However only in 2012 we can do that (provided that there was a third people&#8217;s party as an option)</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 16:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been cooking peanut&#039;s for two day&#039;s my son is selling them at the motorcycle races and just cooked chicken wings for dinner and then thought heck how about a little fair and balanced news so turned on Fox News.  Well first they did a little thing called liberal lies where certain school books Fox thinks are not true.  Something about FDR and the new deal was lies and Rockefeller was a good guy.  I wonder if Fox could would they burn these books?  Oh they give the phone number of the publisher of the books.  Then this lady came on I guess from the Fox financial  network and said that 8 States now have double digit unemployment but she said this is a lagging indicator and that is a fancy term used by economists.  Well golly gee you learn something everyday lagging indicator wow that is fancy alright.  Well I turned off the TV and my first thought was not so much fancy but;   

Active paranoiac thought, through which it will be possible to systematize confusion and contribute to the total discrediting of the world of reality and nut&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been cooking peanut&#8217;s for two day&#8217;s my son is selling them at the motorcycle races and just cooked chicken wings for dinner and then thought heck how about a little fair and balanced news so turned on Fox News.  Well first they did a little thing called liberal lies where certain school books Fox thinks are not true.  Something about FDR and the new deal was lies and Rockefeller was a good guy.  I wonder if Fox could would they burn these books?  Oh they give the phone number of the publisher of the books.  Then this lady came on I guess from the Fox financial  network and said that 8 States now have double digit unemployment but she said this is a lagging indicator and that is a fancy term used by economists.  Well golly gee you learn something everyday lagging indicator wow that is fancy alright.  Well I turned off the TV and my first thought was not so much fancy but;   </p>
<p>Active paranoiac thought, through which it will be possible to systematize confusion and contribute to the total discrediting of the world of reality and nut&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 21:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By Ray Grigg, Courier-Islander April 17, 2009


If you are old enough to read and understand this, you will probably be safe from the worst effects of global climate change. If you are too young to read and understand this, your mid-life future may be less than comfortable. By the time today&#039;s young children reach middle age, the disruptive effects of global warming may be causing enough ecological imbalance to unsettle human populations and initiate significant political chaos. The children of today&#039;s children may be facing even more sobering prospects.

The latest information on global warming and climate change is a pall settling on everyone who considers the future, whether it be ecologies or the viability of human civilization we bequeath to our children and their children. Indeed, contemplating the forthcoming decades has become a disquieting exercise, with even the most promising of assessments now couched in qualified optimism. Even scientists want their predictions to be wrong.

Most politicians and most people still seem to be in denial, living mostly in a world of the present. They awake in the morning to a seemingly ordinary day, dress accordingly, then carry on as if everything were normal. But some very knowledgable scientists are looking intently at their climate models, checking and triple checking the accuracy of their data, then considering and re-considering their predictions.
From their perspective, to be frankly honest, the future looks sobering

   
Significant political chaos well, well let&#039;s watch the Senate the next two months and how they handle the end of the human race as we know it and see if we see any significant political chaos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By Ray Grigg, Courier-Islander April 17, 2009</p>
<p>If you are old enough to read and understand this, you will probably be safe from the worst effects of global climate change. If you are too young to read and understand this, your mid-life future may be less than comfortable. By the time today&#8217;s young children reach middle age, the disruptive effects of global warming may be causing enough ecological imbalance to unsettle human populations and initiate significant political chaos. The children of today&#8217;s children may be facing even more sobering prospects.</p>
<p>The latest information on global warming and climate change is a pall settling on everyone who considers the future, whether it be ecologies or the viability of human civilization we bequeath to our children and their children. Indeed, contemplating the forthcoming decades has become a disquieting exercise, with even the most promising of assessments now couched in qualified optimism. Even scientists want their predictions to be wrong.</p>
<p>Most politicians and most people still seem to be in denial, living mostly in a world of the present. They awake in the morning to a seemingly ordinary day, dress accordingly, then carry on as if everything were normal. But some very knowledgable scientists are looking intently at their climate models, checking and triple checking the accuracy of their data, then considering and re-considering their predictions.<br />
From their perspective, to be frankly honest, the future looks sobering</p>
<p>Significant political chaos well, well let&#8217;s watch the Senate the next two months and how they handle the end of the human race as we know it and see if we see any significant political chaos.</p>
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		<title>By: Deadbeat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deadbeat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 20:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Bernanke’s financial rescue plan is a disaster. He should have spent a little less time with Milton Friedman and a little more with Karl Marx. It was Marx who uncovered the root of all financial crises. He summed it up like this:

&lt;b&gt;    The ultimate reason for all real crises always remains the poverty and restricted consumption of the masses as opposed to the drive of capitalist production to develop the productive forces as though only the absolute consuming power of society constituted their limit.”4 &lt;/b&gt;

Bingo. Message to Bernanke: Workers need debt-relief and a raise in pay not bigger bailouts for chiseling fatcat banksters&lt;/i&gt;

Thanks Mike.  It is also a lesson that the Left needs to learn as well.  The tendency to ignore Marx appears to be rampant these days when in fact there needs to be an embrace of his teaching and understanding of how Capitalism truly functions. 

But IMO the most important aspect of Marx is the understanding of POWER and the need for working class solidarity.  Kudos Mike for quoting Marx and demonstrating the importance of his ideas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Bernanke’s financial rescue plan is a disaster. He should have spent a little less time with Milton Friedman and a little more with Karl Marx. It was Marx who uncovered the root of all financial crises. He summed it up like this:</p>
<p><b>    The ultimate reason for all real crises always remains the poverty and restricted consumption of the masses as opposed to the drive of capitalist production to develop the productive forces as though only the absolute consuming power of society constituted their limit.”4 </b></p>
<p>Bingo. Message to Bernanke: Workers need debt-relief and a raise in pay not bigger bailouts for chiseling fatcat banksters</i></p>
<p>Thanks Mike.  It is also a lesson that the Left needs to learn as well.  The tendency to ignore Marx appears to be rampant these days when in fact there needs to be an embrace of his teaching and understanding of how Capitalism truly functions. </p>
<p>But IMO the most important aspect of Marx is the understanding of POWER and the need for working class solidarity.  Kudos Mike for quoting Marx and demonstrating the importance of his ideas.</p>
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		<title>By: RH2</title>
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		<dc:creator>RH2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 20:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The term Wall Street seems to seduce some readers to bring the economic “optimism” of Obama with Jews. Wall Street is dominated by Jews. But are all those happy Latinos and Blacks, who tearfully brought the opportunist and eloquent slave Obama to the White House, Jews? Are the Condoleezza Rices and Colin Powells Jews? These two wretched examples of slavery descendants show us that slavery can lead to the opposite direction. The historic slaves Rice and Powell, who are supposed to be sensitive to oppression and humiliation, obviously deceived their descent and history by reproducing the aggressive language of Imperialism and representing the distorted world view of plutocracy and dominance. Now we have Obama to do the job. After all, economic “progress” is good for consumption and Imperialism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The term Wall Street seems to seduce some readers to bring the economic “optimism” of Obama with Jews. Wall Street is dominated by Jews. But are all those happy Latinos and Blacks, who tearfully brought the opportunist and eloquent slave Obama to the White House, Jews? Are the Condoleezza Rices and Colin Powells Jews? These two wretched examples of slavery descendants show us that slavery can lead to the opposite direction. The historic slaves Rice and Powell, who are supposed to be sensitive to oppression and humiliation, obviously deceived their descent and history by reproducing the aggressive language of Imperialism and representing the distorted world view of plutocracy and dominance. Now we have Obama to do the job. After all, economic “progress” is good for consumption and Imperialism.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 18:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The show Fast money on CNBC well they have these commercials for the show and I guess tell people the best way to invest and in my mind they tell you the best way to destroy a planet that is with what we know now knowledge.  The planet is called Earth and so far with what we know a unique planet that can support live so far.  At the end of there commercials they always&#039; say class dismissed like they are the teachers and I guess us the students.  Well first of all class is not dismissed rather hard to do in an expanding Universe. As far as them being the teachers well a little message from Yoda.  

&quot;You must unlearn what you have learned.&quot; &quot;Once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny, consume you it will...&quot;
  
&quot;You will know (the good from the bad) when you are calm, at peace. Passive. Use the Force for knowledge and defense, never for attack. &quot; 

BOOYAH</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The show Fast money on CNBC well they have these commercials for the show and I guess tell people the best way to invest and in my mind they tell you the best way to destroy a planet that is with what we know now knowledge.  The planet is called Earth and so far with what we know a unique planet that can support live so far.  At the end of there commercials they always&#8217; say class dismissed like they are the teachers and I guess us the students.  Well first of all class is not dismissed rather hard to do in an expanding Universe. As far as them being the teachers well a little message from Yoda.  </p>
<p>&#8220;You must unlearn what you have learned.&#8221; &#8220;Once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny, consume you it will&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;You will know (the good from the bad) when you are calm, at peace. Passive. Use the Force for knowledge and defense, never for attack. &#8221; </p>
<p>BOOYAH</p>
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		<title>By: RH2</title>
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		<dc:creator>RH2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 18:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael Kenny,

I find your conclusion far –fetched. In my opinion Zionists are one of the most dangerous threats to the moral hygiene of mankind. At the same time I consider it to be exaggerated, even a misleading propaganda to ascribe Zionists abilities beyond all limits. Zionists are nothing but ordinary mortals. The real evil on our planet is U.S. Imperialism. Zionists serving Israel simply find a good host in the U.S.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael Kenny,</p>
<p>I find your conclusion far –fetched. In my opinion Zionists are one of the most dangerous threats to the moral hygiene of mankind. At the same time I consider it to be exaggerated, even a misleading propaganda to ascribe Zionists abilities beyond all limits. Zionists are nothing but ordinary mortals. The real evil on our planet is U.S. Imperialism. Zionists serving Israel simply find a good host in the U.S.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/obamas-cockeyed-optimism-we-are-starting-to-see-glimmers-of-hope-across-the-economy/#comment-43709</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 18:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Booyah! 
Slang term from the early 1990s meaning roughly  &quot;IN YOUR FACE!&quot; . 

    Somehow I think much better we in there face than them in our face.  Still time not much we need to start now.  Think boots and kind of a war.  They have this secret hand shake on fast money or is that a Wall Street secret hand shake?  We have the truth and knowledge oh yes we do.  &quot;Booyah</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Booyah!<br />
Slang term from the early 1990s meaning roughly  &#8220;IN YOUR FACE!&#8221; . </p>
<p>    Somehow I think much better we in there face than them in our face.  Still time not much we need to start now.  Think boots and kind of a war.  They have this secret hand shake on fast money or is that a Wall Street secret hand shake?  We have the truth and knowledge oh yes we do.  &#8220;Booyah</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Kenny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Kenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 17:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this has more to do with Israel than economics and is linked to George Mitchell&#039;s current trip to the Middle East. Israel&#039;s existence is entirely dependcent on American brute force, so the Lobby has to hype the idea that American power is still intact and, indeed, recovering. The purpose is to bamboozle the Palestinians into agreeing to a two-state solution on Israel&#039;s terms before they realise that if they just sit tight, they can have a one-state solution on their terms and bamboozle Europe into sending soldiers to force the Palestinians to accept the Israeli solution once they realise they&#039;ve been conned! I doubt if either the Palestinians or Europe can be conned at this stage, but it just shows how desperate the Israelis are and just how much the Lobby has hijacked the US political system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this has more to do with Israel than economics and is linked to George Mitchell&#8217;s current trip to the Middle East. Israel&#8217;s existence is entirely dependcent on American brute force, so the Lobby has to hype the idea that American power is still intact and, indeed, recovering. The purpose is to bamboozle the Palestinians into agreeing to a two-state solution on Israel&#8217;s terms before they realise that if they just sit tight, they can have a one-state solution on their terms and bamboozle Europe into sending soldiers to force the Palestinians to accept the Israeli solution once they realise they&#8217;ve been conned! I doubt if either the Palestinians or Europe can be conned at this stage, but it just shows how desperate the Israelis are and just how much the Lobby has hijacked the US political system.</p>
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