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	<title>Comments on: Obama: Beyond Savior or Trickster</title>
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		<title>By: Eddie</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/obama-beyond-savior-or-trickster/#comment-44167</link>
		<dc:creator>Eddie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 23:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Martha and lichen said.  To the tenth power.</description>
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		<title>By: Tennessee-Chavizta</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/obama-beyond-savior-or-trickster/#comment-44096</link>
		<dc:creator>Tennessee-Chavizta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 03:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Max Shields: indeed, Obama is not even a state-capitalist.  If Obama would&#039;ve been at least a state-capitalist, he would&#039;ve nationalized some banks already, and some giant corporations of utility services, like electricity, communications, and other goods and services provider in this country.  And he would&#039;ve reformed the US oligarchical right-wing constituion.  

But Obama is leaving power very intact, there is not an economic and political power-shift in USA from the upper-classes to the middle classes and to the lower classes.

The thing is that in USA, people don&#039;t know about the importance of democratizing a nation, by reforming the constitution and by nationalizing private corporations.  So like you said, the poors of USA just see in Obama that he is black so he most be a socialist for the people, not a Wall Street capitalist like he really is.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Max Shields: indeed, Obama is not even a state-capitalist.  If Obama would&#8217;ve been at least a state-capitalist, he would&#8217;ve nationalized some banks already, and some giant corporations of utility services, like electricity, communications, and other goods and services provider in this country.  And he would&#8217;ve reformed the US oligarchical right-wing constituion.  </p>
<p>But Obama is leaving power very intact, there is not an economic and political power-shift in USA from the upper-classes to the middle classes and to the lower classes.</p>
<p>The thing is that in USA, people don&#8217;t know about the importance of democratizing a nation, by reforming the constitution and by nationalizing private corporations.  So like you said, the poors of USA just see in Obama that he is black so he most be a socialist for the people, not a Wall Street capitalist like he really is.</p>
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		<title>By: lichen</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/obama-beyond-savior-or-trickster/#comment-44088</link>
		<dc:creator>lichen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 01:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Norman Solomon; delegate and defender of a war criminal; ex-journalist.</description>
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		<title>By: kalidas</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/obama-beyond-savior-or-trickster/#comment-44080</link>
		<dc:creator>kalidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 21:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Journalism largely consists of saying &quot;Lord Jones is Dead&quot; to people who never knew that Lord Jones was alive.”

G. K. Chesterton</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Journalism largely consists of saying &#8220;Lord Jones is Dead&#8221; to people who never knew that Lord Jones was alive.”</p>
<p>G. K. Chesterton</p>
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		<title>By: Martha</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/obama-beyond-savior-or-trickster/#comment-44073</link>
		<dc:creator>Martha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 19:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Max, I don&#039;t believe he&#039;s sincere at all.  I see it as more fluff  from the Pleged Barack Obama Delegate to the 2008 Democratic National Convention.  I guess as long as he&#039;s fluffing, he&#039;s not able to work so hard to get Bonnie Faulkner taken off the air at KPFA though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Max, I don&#8217;t believe he&#8217;s sincere at all.  I see it as more fluff  from the Pleged Barack Obama Delegate to the 2008 Democratic National Convention.  I guess as long as he&#8217;s fluffing, he&#8217;s not able to work so hard to get Bonnie Faulkner taken off the air at KPFA though.</p>
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		<title>By: Max Shields</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/obama-beyond-savior-or-trickster/#comment-44066</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Shields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 18:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With all due respect Norman, while I think you are a sincere about your desire for peace over empire&#039;s endless war, I must say, Obama is doing exactly what he said he&#039;d do when you saw him as the savior.

The Dem Party didn&#039;t just become a corporate owned party nor has the politics of ingenuity just come into being. The great danger Obama poses is that he puts a faux progressive &quot;face&quot; to the doctrine of empire and endless war. That was always the concern people like Glenn Ford and many others who care more about the causes of justice than the political duopoly of Empire saw with the emergence of the first &quot;black&quot; president. There are still millions of African Americans who don&#039;t see past the superficiality of Obama&#039;s race to his neoliberal and even racist policies as he continues the GWB legacy.

We can&#039;t make excuses anymore, we need REAL CHANGE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With all due respect Norman, while I think you are a sincere about your desire for peace over empire&#8217;s endless war, I must say, Obama is doing exactly what he said he&#8217;d do when you saw him as the savior.</p>
<p>The Dem Party didn&#8217;t just become a corporate owned party nor has the politics of ingenuity just come into being. The great danger Obama poses is that he puts a faux progressive &#8220;face&#8221; to the doctrine of empire and endless war. That was always the concern people like Glenn Ford and many others who care more about the causes of justice than the political duopoly of Empire saw with the emergence of the first &#8220;black&#8221; president. There are still millions of African Americans who don&#8217;t see past the superficiality of Obama&#8217;s race to his neoliberal and even racist policies as he continues the GWB legacy.</p>
<p>We can&#8217;t make excuses anymore, we need REAL CHANGE.</p>
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		<title>By: voice of experience</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/obama-beyond-savior-or-trickster/#comment-44065</link>
		<dc:creator>voice of experience</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 17:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Norman Solomon is a fink with a cute haircut. He functions as the Collaborator&#039;s last line of defense, trying to keep your thinking within bounds, within parameters acceptable to the Zio-Imperialist Federal Reserve gangsters who own the Demock-rat Party. No matter how clear it is that Obama is just Bush with a Marketing Focus on a slightly different demographic, this fink tries to keep you jumping through all the same old hoops, playing those same old games set up for you by Histadrut-allied outfits like the &quot;Progressive Democrats of America&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Norman Solomon is a fink with a cute haircut. He functions as the Collaborator&#8217;s last line of defense, trying to keep your thinking within bounds, within parameters acceptable to the Zio-Imperialist Federal Reserve gangsters who own the Demock-rat Party. No matter how clear it is that Obama is just Bush with a Marketing Focus on a slightly different demographic, this fink tries to keep you jumping through all the same old hoops, playing those same old games set up for you by Histadrut-allied outfits like the &#8220;Progressive Democrats of America&#8221;.</p>
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