Comments on: NATO, SCO or PATO? http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/nato-sco-or-pato/ a radical newsletter in the struggle for peace and social justice Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:26:27 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Eric Walberg http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/nato-sco-or-pato/#comment-44213 Eric Walberg Fri, 24 Apr 2009 09:10:12 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=7880#comment-44213 >Russia has always wanted to be a member of NATO only for a few years under Yeltsin, the reviled sell-out. All indications from Putin's crew suggest they would like to see it dissolve. Sure the European quisling leaders (not the people, who also have no use for this club)want Russia to join them as helpmates to the US. The EU is a different matter, tho Russia joining it would water it down to such an extent it wouldn't have much meaning. >Russia has always wanted to be a member of NATO

only for a few years under Yeltsin, the reviled sell-out. All indications from Putin’s crew suggest they would like to see it dissolve. Sure the European quisling leaders (not the people, who also have no use for this club)want Russia to join them as helpmates to the US. The EU is a different matter, tho Russia joining it would water it down to such an extent it wouldn’t have much meaning.

]]> By: Michael Kenny http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/nato-sco-or-pato/#comment-44074 Michael Kenny Wed, 22 Apr 2009 19:27:06 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=7880#comment-44074 Russia has always wanted to be a member of NATO and the other European members have always wanted it in. As a matter of common sense, if NATO is supposed to defend European democracy, then Russia, Europe's largest democracy, has to be part of it. It was the US which rebuffed Russia, for which the European members took their revenge in regard to Georgia and Ukraine. I could see a big compromise, with Russia, Ukraine and Georgia joining NATO together and getting closer to, and ultimately joining, the EU. In the longer term, I could see the US and Canada withdrawing from NATO and setting up a new policing and safety organisation (marpol, regulating maritime and air traffic, rescue services, even piracy) for the North Atlantic itself, in concert with European countries from Russia to Portugal, which have relevant coastlines, and a similar organisation for the Pacific. Russia has always wanted to be a member of NATO and the other European members have always wanted it in. As a matter of common sense, if NATO is supposed to defend European democracy, then Russia, Europe’s largest democracy, has to be part of it. It was the US which rebuffed Russia, for which the European members took their revenge in regard to Georgia and Ukraine. I could see a big compromise, with Russia, Ukraine and Georgia joining NATO together and getting closer to, and ultimately joining, the EU. In the longer term, I could see the US and Canada withdrawing from NATO and setting up a new policing and safety organisation (marpol, regulating maritime and air traffic, rescue services, even piracy) for the North Atlantic itself, in concert with European countries from Russia to Portugal, which have relevant coastlines, and a similar organisation for the Pacific.

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