Comments on: Mobilizing with Pots and Pans to Reverse a Bloodless Coup http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/mobilizing-with-pots-and-pans-to-reverse-a-bloodless-coup/ a radical newsletter in the struggle for peace and social justice Thu, 08 Dec 2011 15:07:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Mulga Mumblebrain http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/mobilizing-with-pots-and-pans-to-reverse-a-bloodless-coup/#comment-42702 Mulga Mumblebrain Tue, 07 Apr 2009 03:46:19 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=7550#comment-42702 May I recommend 'Indispensable Enemies' by Walter Karp, a brilliant exposition of the history of Democratic and Republican complicity and collusion to serve the money power and keep the rabble in line. Capitalist democracy is the most completely self-contradicting expression in the English, or American, language. May I recommend ‘Indispensable Enemies’ by Walter Karp, a brilliant exposition of the history of Democratic and Republican complicity and collusion to serve the money power and keep the rabble in line. Capitalist democracy is the most completely self-contradicting expression in the English, or American, language.

]]> By: Don Hawkins http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/mobilizing-with-pots-and-pans-to-reverse-a-bloodless-coup/#comment-42638 Don Hawkins Mon, 06 Apr 2009 11:43:07 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=7550#comment-42638 A lie can run around the world before the truth can get it's boots on. James Watt Put your boots on and keep them on it will put us a little ahead of the game. The next year the game of lies will be in full gear so to speak. In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. --George Orwell The Greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge. --Stephen Hawking We know the truth, not only by the reason, but also by the heart.-- Blaise Pascal It took a lot of blood, sweat and tears to get to where we are today, but we have just begun. Today we begin in earnest the work of making sure that the world we leave our children is just a little bit better than the one we inhabit today. Barack Obama When do you think we should get started we are kind of out of time? See that question mark that is what my kid's see as they tell me just that kind of. When do you think we should get started. Many very smart people that you don't see on the Glenn Beck show are wondering the same thing this is not rocket science. Cap and trade will not work keep it simple. A lie can run around the world before the truth can get it’s boots on.
James Watt

Put your boots on and keep them on it will put us a little ahead of the game. The next year the game of lies will be in full gear so to speak.

In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. –George Orwell

The Greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge. –Stephen Hawking

We know the truth, not only by the reason, but also by the heart.– Blaise Pascal

It took a lot of blood, sweat and tears to get to where we are today, but we have just begun. Today we begin in earnest the work of making sure that the world we leave our children is just a little bit better than the one we inhabit today.
Barack Obama When do you think we should get started we are kind of out of time? See that question mark that is what my kid’s see as they tell me just that kind of. When do you think we should get started. Many very smart people that you don’t see on the Glenn Beck show are wondering the same thing this is not rocket science. Cap and trade will not work keep it simple.

]]> By: Don Hawkins http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/mobilizing-with-pots-and-pans-to-reverse-a-bloodless-coup/#comment-42635 Don Hawkins Mon, 06 Apr 2009 10:53:19 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=7550#comment-42635 Come senators, congressmen, please head the call Don't stand in the doorway, don't block up the hall For he that gets hurt will be her that has stalled The battle outside ragging will soon shake your windows And rattle your hall For the times, they are a changing Come mothers and fathers all over this land And don't criticize what you can't understand Your sons and your daughter are beyond your command Your old role is rapidly aging Please get out of the new one if you can't lend a hand For the times they are a changing Dylan Dylan wrote this a few years ago and seems to work even better in the twenty first. So for the people who are still in that old way of thinking your role is rapidly aging that would be rapidly changing. Don't criticize what you can't understand as it will only take you into the darkside not a fun place. Please get out of the new one if you can't lend a hand and lending a hand is not the lies that have worked for you so well have you looked around lately but the truth for the times they are a changing. The line, it is drawn, the curse, it is cast The slow one will later be fast And the present now will soon be the past The order is rapidly fading The first one now will later be last For the times, they are a changing Ok people let's watch our senators, congressmen we can see them and of course pay no attention to the man behind the curtain people with Alligator shoes and cash. Yes let's watch them play the game where nobody wins making plans for nobody. Cap and trade senators, congressmen by all means and nobody wins plans for nobody and remember the present now will soon be the past. Do it for the Gipper, what how about future generations? See that question mark well good people that is what the future generations see so far as they are a lot smarter than you think. Remember the present now will soon be the past and the darkside is not a fun place. Do it for the Gipper or Fox News where we see are highly intelligent leaders on the Glenn Beck show as he cries for humanity. Pot's and spoon's loud and clear the truth no more lies for the times they are a changing. Come senators, congressmen, please head the call
Don’t stand in the doorway, don’t block up the hall
For he that gets hurt will be her that has stalled
The battle outside ragging will soon shake your windows
And rattle your hall
For the times, they are a changing

Come mothers and fathers all over this land
And don’t criticize what you can’t understand
Your sons and your daughter are beyond your command
Your old role is rapidly aging
Please get out of the new one if you can’t lend a hand
For the times they are a changing Dylan

Dylan wrote this a few years ago and seems to work even better in the twenty first. So for the people who are still in that old way of thinking your role is rapidly aging that would be rapidly changing. Don’t criticize what you can’t understand as it will only take you into the darkside not a fun place. Please get out of the new one if you can’t lend a hand and lending a hand is not the lies that have worked for you so well have you looked around lately but the truth for the times they are a changing.

The line, it is drawn, the curse, it is cast
The slow one will later be fast
And the present now will soon be the past
The order is rapidly fading
The first one now will later be last
For the times, they are a changing

Ok people let’s watch our senators, congressmen we can see them and of course pay no attention to the man behind the curtain people with Alligator shoes and cash. Yes let’s watch them play the game where nobody wins making plans for nobody. Cap and trade senators, congressmen by all means and nobody wins plans for nobody and remember the present now will soon be the past. Do it for the Gipper, what how about future generations? See that question mark well good people that is what the future generations see so far as they are a lot smarter than you think. Remember the present now will soon be the past and the darkside is not a fun place. Do it for the Gipper or Fox News where we see are highly intelligent leaders on the Glenn Beck show as he cries for humanity. Pot’s and spoon’s loud and clear the truth no more lies for the times they are a changing.

]]> By: Don Hawkins http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/mobilizing-with-pots-and-pans-to-reverse-a-bloodless-coup/#comment-42606 Don Hawkins Sun, 05 Apr 2009 21:56:03 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=7550#comment-42606 WASHINGTON (Reuters) - One Antarctic ice shelf has quickly vanished, another is disappearing and glaciers are melting faster than anyone thought due to climate change, U.S. and British government researchers reported on Friday. They said the Wordie Ice Shelf, which had been disintegrating since the 1960s, is gone and the northern part of the Larsen Ice Shelf no longer exists. More than 3,200 square miles (8,300 square km) have broken off from the Larsen shelf since 1986. Climate change is to blame, according to the report from the U.S. Geological Survey and the British Antarctic Survey, available at pubs.usgs.gov/imap/2600/B. "The rapid retreat of glaciers there demonstrates once again the profound effects our planet is already experiencing -- more rapidly than previously known -- as a consequence of climate change," U.S. Interior Secretary Ken Salazar said in a statement. "This continued and often significant glacier retreat is a wakeup call that change is happening ... and we need to be prepared," USGS glaciologist Jane Ferrigno, who led the Antarctica study, said in a statement. April 3, 2009 We need to be prepared. Pot's and spoons still time to slow the real fun stuff. No more lies we want the truth and we need to try. Cap and trade will not work the truth will. Do you really think the truth will not come out not this time. WASHINGTON (Reuters) – One Antarctic ice shelf has quickly vanished, another is disappearing and glaciers are melting faster than anyone thought due to climate change, U.S. and British government researchers reported on Friday.
They said the Wordie Ice Shelf, which had been disintegrating since the 1960s, is gone and the northern part of the Larsen Ice Shelf no longer exists. More than 3,200 square miles (8,300 square km) have broken off from the Larsen shelf since 1986.
Climate change is to blame, according to the report from the U.S. Geological Survey and the British Antarctic Survey, available at pubs.usgs.gov/imap/2600/B.
“The rapid retreat of glaciers there demonstrates once again the profound effects our planet is already experiencing — more rapidly than previously known — as a consequence of climate change,” U.S. Interior Secretary Ken Salazar said in a statement.
“This continued and often significant glacier retreat is a wakeup call that change is happening … and we need to be prepared,” USGS glaciologist Jane Ferrigno, who led the Antarctica study, said in a statement.
April 3, 2009

We need to be prepared. Pot’s and spoons still time to slow the real fun stuff. No more lies we want the truth and we need to try. Cap and trade will not work the truth will. Do you really think the truth will not come out not this time.

]]> By: Don Hawkins http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/mobilizing-with-pots-and-pans-to-reverse-a-bloodless-coup/#comment-42601 Don Hawkins Sun, 05 Apr 2009 18:56:03 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=7550#comment-42601 I know Bozh I know I know Bozh I know

]]> By: bozh http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/mobilizing-with-pots-and-pans-to-reverse-a-bloodless-coup/#comment-42596 bozh Sun, 05 Apr 2009 16:36:32 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=7550#comment-42596 as an aside, wife and i create more problems than we can solve [just like US]; nevertheless, we solve lotsof them. but we do often make mountains out of molehills and molehills out of mountains. just like world plutos- the modern feudal lords, barons, counts, earls, boyars, contessas, dames- who made afgh'n look like a mountain instead a molehill; while making mollhill out of global warming/warfare. as editors tell me in a 'dignified' way for a dignitary: that's democracy, mister! so it may be OK to fry in the sun democratically. tnx as an aside, wife and i create more problems than we can solve [just like US]; nevertheless, we solve lotsof them. but we do often make mountains out of molehills and molehills out of mountains.
just like world plutos- the modern feudal lords, barons, counts, earls, boyars, contessas, dames- who made afgh’n look like a mountain instead a molehill; while making mollhill out of global warming/warfare.
as editors tell me in a ‘dignified’ way for a dignitary: that’s democracy, mister! so it may be OK to fry in the sun democratically. tnx

]]> By: Don Hawkins http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/mobilizing-with-pots-and-pans-to-reverse-a-bloodless-coup/#comment-42586 Don Hawkins Sun, 05 Apr 2009 14:31:19 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=7550#comment-42586 I just walked the dog and it helps me think. Maybe the reason many of the people you see on TV or read on the Internet are kind of slaves to the system. Never mind that the system not all of it but a good part will take us all into the darkside in just a few years never mind that for a few. Some few have drivers to get them from place to place and without the system they would have to walk or drive themselves and work on there own car. Changing brakes is easy now a water pump on the new stuff is hard it's that whole lining up the dots that people find hard. A few have cooks not only to cook but shop for them again how could they ever cook for themselves or shop let alone shop at Wal Mart I can't go on. Oh yes you can. Can you imagine having to take a commercial flight instead of your own jet I can't go on. It looks like these trillions for the financial system is so they can keep doing all those things and never mind about going into the darkside in just a few years no never mind that. Listen to your leaders and watch your parking meters. The strange part is that these few know full well the problems we face but think it better they go out in style and let the next generation go into the darkside. That's not very nice. It looks like it is making them crazy in many way's kind of troubled minds in many way's but they do it anyway it's that whole slaves to the system. Just watch TV and tell me you don't see troubled minds and many of those troubled minds are telling people the masses they have troubled minds and if you do what we say you will be alright. I am confused now. A pot and a spoon calm at peace loud and clear lose the jet the driver the cook do your own shopping remember how to do real work? Class warfare yes it sure is. The push is on people from those few to not do what is needed and so far they are not winning but stopping any real progress. Remember the other side now day’s are a bit crazy I see it everyday on TV keep an eye on them they are not doing well. The pot and spoon could just help them to focus and get there mind off there troubles and just maybe my son and his can have a fighting chance. I just walked the dog and it helps me think. Maybe the reason many of the people you see on TV or read on the Internet are kind of slaves to the system. Never mind that the system not all of it but a good part will take us all into the darkside in just a few years never mind that for a few. Some few have drivers to get them from place to place and without the system they would have to walk or drive themselves and work on there own car. Changing brakes is easy now a water pump on the new stuff is hard it’s that whole lining up the dots that people find hard. A few have cooks not only to cook but shop for them again how could they ever cook for themselves or shop let alone shop at Wal Mart I can’t go on. Oh yes you can. Can you imagine having to take a commercial flight instead of your own jet I can’t go on. It looks like these trillions for the financial system is so they can keep doing all those things and never mind about going into the darkside in just a few years no never mind that. Listen to your leaders and watch your parking meters. The strange part is that these few know full well the problems we face but think it better they go out in style and let the next generation go into the darkside. That’s not very nice. It looks like it is making them crazy in many way’s kind of troubled minds in many way’s but they do it anyway it’s that whole slaves to the system. Just watch TV and tell me you don’t see troubled minds and many of those troubled minds are telling people the masses they have troubled minds and if you do what we say you will be alright. I am confused now. A pot and a spoon calm at peace loud and clear lose the jet the driver the cook do your own shopping remember how to do real work? Class warfare yes it sure is. The push is on people from those few to not do what is needed and so far they are not winning but stopping any real progress. Remember the other side now day’s are a bit crazy I see it everyday on TV keep an eye on them they are not doing well. The pot and spoon could just help them to focus and get there mind off there troubles and just maybe my son and his can have a fighting chance.

]]> By: Don Hawkins http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/mobilizing-with-pots-and-pans-to-reverse-a-bloodless-coup/#comment-42580 Don Hawkins Sun, 05 Apr 2009 12:32:14 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=7550#comment-42580 Oh there is a restructuring of the economy going on all right and not exactly to serve the people all the people but again just a few people. It's not going to work a little fly in the ointment called climate change. There's debt alright and this time we have a little debt to the Earth better known as the home planet. I have to admit it is driving many people crazy to know this and that is why we see what we see. It seems to be playing out in strange way's all we have to do is turn on the TV and watch many act like little kid's and I guess tell themselves everything is just fine and of course tell us the same thing. What's the main reason for this well I guess consumer confidence that's a wall street term. Now some really smart people that you don't see on TV say it is probably a very good idea to produce energy 100% of our energy from clean energy and do that within 10 years or things for human's will get very bad. The President we have now here in the States has a plan and not even close to the plan of the real smart people that you never see on TV. Consumer confidence. I wonder why the people on TV, TV is a business, the ones who talk like little kid's never put on the real smart people. There must be a reason for this and the answer escapes me at this moment. Now I watched this morning MSNBC and FOX and CNN and they are talking about the missile that North Korea just plunked into the ocean. Our President just talked and is going to mobilize the powers that be on planet Earth to fight this threat that all of humanity faces. There seems to be a lot of mobilization these day's. G-20 and that whole restructuring of the economy just happened. Hay were those people at the G-20 the real smart people they seemed smart and were dressed nice must be. Remember people we have pot's and spoon's and the truth on our side. The other side have a lie that is made to seem like the truth. Remember the other side now day's are a bit crazy I see it everyday on TV keep an eye on them they are not doing well. The pot and spoon could just help them to focus and get there mind off there troubles. Oh there is a restructuring of the economy going on all right and not exactly to serve the people all the people but again just a few people. It’s not going to work a little fly in the ointment called climate change. There’s debt alright and this time we have a little debt to the Earth better known as the home planet. I have to admit it is driving many people crazy to know this and that is why we see what we see. It seems to be playing out in strange way’s all we have to do is turn on the TV and watch many act like little kid’s and I guess tell themselves everything is just fine and of course tell us the same thing. What’s the main reason for this well I guess consumer confidence that’s a wall street term. Now some really smart people that you don’t see on TV say it is probably a very good idea to produce energy 100% of our energy from clean energy and do that within 10 years or things for human’s will get very bad. The President we have now here in the States has a plan and not even close to the plan of the real smart people that you never see on TV. Consumer confidence. I wonder why the people on TV, TV is a business, the ones who talk like little kid’s never put on the real smart people. There must be a reason for this and the answer escapes me at this moment. Now I watched this morning MSNBC and FOX and CNN and they are talking about the missile that North Korea just plunked into the ocean. Our President just talked and is going to mobilize the powers that be on planet Earth to fight this threat that all of humanity faces. There seems to be a lot of mobilization these day’s. G-20 and that whole restructuring of the economy just happened. Hay were those people at the G-20 the real smart people they seemed smart and were dressed nice must be. Remember people we have pot’s and spoon’s and the truth on our side. The other side have a lie that is made to seem like the truth. Remember the other side now day’s are a bit crazy I see it everyday on TV keep an eye on them they are not doing well. The pot and spoon could just help them to focus and get there mind off there troubles.

]]> By: Deadbeat http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/mobilizing-with-pots-and-pans-to-reverse-a-bloodless-coup/#comment-42558 Deadbeat Sun, 05 Apr 2009 00:35:29 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=7550#comment-42558 greybeard writes... <i>But first the American sheeple will have to wake up, object to being “shorn”, and pick up their pots and pans! We do not have a representative democracy, and never will, so long as Money interests can hide.</i> Polls show that the American people are fully aware that they are getting screwed. The problem is the LACK OF SOLIDARITY among the citizenry. Also notice that the ruling class is doing absolutely NOTHING to alleviate DEBT. Debt is the weapon that the working class has to overthrow. How are people for example go on a general strike when they have mortgages and consumer loans to pay off. Most American cannot afford to miss a paycheck. Therefore most American are behaving "rationally" to their debt bondage and other kinds of monetary bondage that suppresses their militancy. Via the courts debt bondage ATOMIZES American. What is needed is solidarity and the pooling of resources that can come to the aid of American that decide to default on their debt. Such defiance will force changes and would be an excellent response to the programs that are structured to rescue the private banks. People should be demanding total DEBT forgiveness and a restructuring of the economy to serve the people. Power to the people. greybeard writes…

But first the American sheeple will have to wake up, object to being “shorn”, and pick up their pots and pans! We do not have a representative democracy, and never will, so long as Money interests can hide.

Polls show that the American people are fully aware that they are getting screwed. The problem is the LACK OF SOLIDARITY among the citizenry. Also notice that the ruling class is doing absolutely NOTHING to alleviate DEBT. Debt is the weapon that the working class has to overthrow.

How are people for example go on a general strike when they have mortgages and consumer loans to pay off. Most American cannot afford to miss a paycheck. Therefore most American are behaving “rationally” to their debt bondage and other kinds of monetary bondage that suppresses their militancy. Via the courts debt bondage ATOMIZES American.

What is needed is solidarity and the pooling of resources that can come to the aid of American that decide to default on their debt. Such defiance will force changes and would be an excellent response to the programs that are structured to rescue the private banks.

People should be demanding total DEBT forgiveness and a restructuring of the economy to serve the people.

Power to the people.

]]> By: greybeard http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/mobilizing-with-pots-and-pans-to-reverse-a-bloodless-coup/#comment-42548 greybeard Sat, 04 Apr 2009 22:13:32 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=7550#comment-42548 But first the American sheeple will have to wake up, object to being "shorn", and pick up their pots and pans! We do not have a representative democracy, and never will, so long as Money interests can hide. But first the American sheeple will have to wake up, object to being “shorn”, and pick up their pots and pans! We do not have a representative democracy, and never will, so long as Money interests can hide.

]]> By: Patty http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/mobilizing-with-pots-and-pans-to-reverse-a-bloodless-coup/#comment-42545 Patty Sat, 04 Apr 2009 21:04:56 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=7550#comment-42545 WELL DONE. I'm thinking about the largest pot in my kitchen and the largest spoon. I'm thinking at the very least of being in Los Angeles April 6. Thank you for your scholarship. WELL DONE. I’m thinking about the largest pot in my kitchen and the largest spoon. I’m thinking at the very least of being in Los Angeles April 6. Thank you for your scholarship.

]]> By: Don Hawkins http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/mobilizing-with-pots-and-pans-to-reverse-a-bloodless-coup/#comment-42540 Don Hawkins Sat, 04 Apr 2009 19:08:40 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=7550#comment-42540 Pot's and pan's then let them know you can care a tune then pot's and pan's again. I have a feeling there will be more song's on the way. New people. It's in view Amber cascades all over today Then we walk on a crooked catwalk Only to be delayed Bubbles of blue burst into two Eaten up by the incoming tide Of the new Then we call to the man who walks on the water We talk of a plan to stop all the slaughter in view It's in view Granite charades are played in the rain Till we fall through a sand castle window To avoid the pain Summer canoe paddles up to you 'Cause it's time for another beer run Or something that's equally true Then we call to the man who walks on the water We talk of a plan to stop all the slaughter in view Then we call to the man who walks on the water We talk of a plan to stop all the slaughter in view It's in view Pot’s and pan’s then let them know you can care a tune then pot’s and pan’s again. I have a feeling there will be more song’s on the way. New people. It’s in view

Amber cascades all over today
Then we walk on a crooked catwalk
Only to be delayed
Bubbles of blue burst into two
Eaten up by the incoming tide
Of the new

Then we call to the man who walks on the water
We talk of a plan to stop all the slaughter in view
It’s in view

Granite charades are played in the rain
Till we fall through a sand castle window
To avoid the pain
Summer canoe paddles up to you
‘Cause it’s time for another beer run
Or something that’s equally true

Then we call to the man who walks on the water
We talk of a plan to stop all the slaughter in view

Then we call to the man who walks on the water
We talk of a plan to stop all the slaughter in view
It’s in view

]]> By: Don Hawkins http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/mobilizing-with-pots-and-pans-to-reverse-a-bloodless-coup/#comment-42530 Don Hawkins Sat, 04 Apr 2009 17:19:27 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=7550#comment-42530 pots and pans good idea. pots and pans good idea.

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