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		<title>By: angie</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/is-obama-even-more-dangerous-than-bush/#comment-44072</link>
		<dc:creator>angie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 19:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The disasters of the bush admistation?  1994  when NAFTA  was passed into law  the clinton administration was in the white house.  Our jobs have been leaving ever since going to other countries for cheaper labor.  So when we speak of disasters in administrations we can add bush but dont leave clinton out one of the main players in the economical crises plus one of the main players in the moral decay on this society.  Common sense should have kicked in by now NAFTA has destroyed our economy but book smart harvard educated people are absentent of common sense.  Companys can pay workers in mexico $2.00 an hour as oppossed to $15.00 an hour in the united states.  Did that ever cross clintons mind?   Will it ever cross obamas mind?  His first order of business was our economy,   but the first thing I heard was that he had overturned bush&#039;s ban on federal funded abortions,   why not NAFTA?  No one world government is on his mind,  read revalations rather you believe it or not the end is near and obama will lead us to our destruction.  He even had ministers so called men of god vote for him put his sign up in their yards to campainge for him, after he said that redicoulous bull shit!!!  &quot;I know you all think I was born in a manger but I wasnt I was born on the planet krypton and my father the great grizel has sent me to save the world&quot;   a presidental canidate for the united states of america should know how many states is in the union but this man got up there on a platform and said &quot; we have been to 57 states and have one more to go&quot;  America voted for him.  America still want to blame bush amd morals for america&#039;s destruction no deal it out to all at fault and no one is saying bush is innocent.  Im saying americans with our greed always looking to get something for nothing and suing over minor bullshit and we need disability reform along with welfare reform.  some of the ones drawing disability can work at doing something.  Im not talking about the ones truley disabled, but the ones that can run their mouth use their hands lay on their back and continue to have and raise kids Can  get a job and take a hell of a lot of the burden off tax payers.  Our government spends alot of money on a lot of stupid thing s and ideas.  If we are in an economic crises why do we continue to send our hard earned now hard to get tax dollars to other countries.   Mabie obama had a plan he wanted to bring up in that meating the one he cancelled to watch a tv show but america thought that   was so cute.  America would still be talking about mrs bush is she had touched or hugged the queen (Elizabeth)  You are not suppose to touch her america,  you are suppose to curtsee the queen.  but its ok america has the immoralist in office ,  Just what America wanted.  An Imoral nation where right is wrong and wrong is right!!     so lets please be fair to the administrations just because you have what you want doesnt mean he is good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The disasters of the bush admistation?  1994  when NAFTA  was passed into law  the clinton administration was in the white house.  Our jobs have been leaving ever since going to other countries for cheaper labor.  So when we speak of disasters in administrations we can add bush but dont leave clinton out one of the main players in the economical crises plus one of the main players in the moral decay on this society.  Common sense should have kicked in by now NAFTA has destroyed our economy but book smart harvard educated people are absentent of common sense.  Companys can pay workers in mexico $2.00 an hour as oppossed to $15.00 an hour in the united states.  Did that ever cross clintons mind?   Will it ever cross obamas mind?  His first order of business was our economy,   but the first thing I heard was that he had overturned bush&#8217;s ban on federal funded abortions,   why not NAFTA?  No one world government is on his mind,  read revalations rather you believe it or not the end is near and obama will lead us to our destruction.  He even had ministers so called men of god vote for him put his sign up in their yards to campainge for him, after he said that redicoulous bull shit!!!  &#8220;I know you all think I was born in a manger but I wasnt I was born on the planet krypton and my father the great grizel has sent me to save the world&#8221;   a presidental canidate for the united states of america should know how many states is in the union but this man got up there on a platform and said &#8221; we have been to 57 states and have one more to go&#8221;  America voted for him.  America still want to blame bush amd morals for america&#8217;s destruction no deal it out to all at fault and no one is saying bush is innocent.  Im saying americans with our greed always looking to get something for nothing and suing over minor bullshit and we need disability reform along with welfare reform.  some of the ones drawing disability can work at doing something.  Im not talking about the ones truley disabled, but the ones that can run their mouth use their hands lay on their back and continue to have and raise kids Can  get a job and take a hell of a lot of the burden off tax payers.  Our government spends alot of money on a lot of stupid thing s and ideas.  If we are in an economic crises why do we continue to send our hard earned now hard to get tax dollars to other countries.   Mabie obama had a plan he wanted to bring up in that meating the one he cancelled to watch a tv show but america thought that   was so cute.  America would still be talking about mrs bush is she had touched or hugged the queen (Elizabeth)  You are not suppose to touch her america,  you are suppose to curtsee the queen.  but its ok america has the immoralist in office ,  Just what America wanted.  An Imoral nation where right is wrong and wrong is right!!     so lets please be fair to the administrations just because you have what you want doesnt mean he is good.</p>
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		<title>By: spinpolitico</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/is-obama-even-more-dangerous-than-bush/#comment-42969</link>
		<dc:creator>spinpolitico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 04:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who Am I?

I was born in one country, raised in another. My father was born in 
another country. I was not his only child. He fathered several 
children with numerous women.

I became very close to my mother, as my father showed no interest in 
me. My mother died at an early age from cancer.
   
Later in life, questions arose over my real name.
  
My birth records were sketchy and no one was able to produce a  
legitimate, reliable birth certificate.
  
I grew up practicing one faith but converted to Christianity, as it 
was widely accepted in my country, but I practiced non-traditional 
beliefs &amp; didn&#039;t follow Christianity, except in the public eye under 
scrutiny.
  
I worked and lived among lower-class people as a young adult, 
disguising myself as someone who really cared about them.
  
That was before I decided it was time to get serious about my life and 
I embarked on a new career.

I wrote a book about my struggles growing up. It was clear to those 
who read my memoirs that I had difficulties accepting that my father 
abandoned me as a child.

I became active in local politics in my 30&#039;s then with help behind the 
scenes, I literally burst onto the scene as a candidate for national 
office in my 40s.

They said I had a golden tongue and could talk anyone into anything. 
That reinforced my conceit.
    
I had a virtually non-existent resume, little work history, and no 
experience in leading a single organization. Yet I was a powerful 
speaker and citizens were drawn to me as though I was a magnet and 
they were small roofing tacks.

I drew incredibly large crowds during my public appearances. This 
bolstered my ego.
   
At first, my political campaign focused on my country&#039;s foreign 
policy. I was very critical of my country in the last war and seized 
every opportunity to bash my country.
  
But what launched my rise to national prominence were my views on the  country&#039;s economy. I pretended to have a really good plan on how we  could do better and every poor person would be fed &amp; housed for free.
  
I knew which group was responsible for getting us into this mess. It 
was the free market, banks &amp; corporations. I decided to start making 
citizens hate them and if they were envious of others who did well, 
the plan was clinched tight.
   
I called mine &quot;A People&#039;s Campaign&quot; and that  sounded good to all  people.
   
I was the surprise candidate because I emerged from outside
the traditional  path of politics &amp; was able to gain widespread popular
support.

I knew that, if I merely offered the people &#039;hope&#039;,  together we could change  our country and the world.
 
So, I started to make my speeches sound like they were on
behalf of the  downtrodden, poor, ignorant to include &quot;persecuted
minorities&quot; . My true views were not widely known &amp; I
needed to keep them  unknown, until after I became my nation&#039;s leader.
   
I had to carefully guard reality, as anybody could have  easily found out what I  really believed, if they had simply read my writings and
examined those people  I associated with.
   
I&#039;m glad they didn&#039;t. Then I became the most  powerful man in the world. And the world learned the truth.

 *Who am I?*
  
    
  ADOLF HITLER</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who Am I?</p>
<p>I was born in one country, raised in another. My father was born in<br />
another country. I was not his only child. He fathered several<br />
children with numerous women.</p>
<p>I became very close to my mother, as my father showed no interest in<br />
me. My mother died at an early age from cancer.</p>
<p>Later in life, questions arose over my real name.</p>
<p>My birth records were sketchy and no one was able to produce a<br />
legitimate, reliable birth certificate.</p>
<p>I grew up practicing one faith but converted to Christianity, as it<br />
was widely accepted in my country, but I practiced non-traditional<br />
beliefs &amp; didn&#8217;t follow Christianity, except in the public eye under<br />
scrutiny.</p>
<p>I worked and lived among lower-class people as a young adult,<br />
disguising myself as someone who really cared about them.</p>
<p>That was before I decided it was time to get serious about my life and<br />
I embarked on a new career.</p>
<p>I wrote a book about my struggles growing up. It was clear to those<br />
who read my memoirs that I had difficulties accepting that my father<br />
abandoned me as a child.</p>
<p>I became active in local politics in my 30&#8217;s then with help behind the<br />
scenes, I literally burst onto the scene as a candidate for national<br />
office in my 40s.</p>
<p>They said I had a golden tongue and could talk anyone into anything.<br />
That reinforced my conceit.</p>
<p>I had a virtually non-existent resume, little work history, and no<br />
experience in leading a single organization. Yet I was a powerful<br />
speaker and citizens were drawn to me as though I was a magnet and<br />
they were small roofing tacks.</p>
<p>I drew incredibly large crowds during my public appearances. This<br />
bolstered my ego.</p>
<p>At first, my political campaign focused on my country&#8217;s foreign<br />
policy. I was very critical of my country in the last war and seized<br />
every opportunity to bash my country.</p>
<p>But what launched my rise to national prominence were my views on the  country&#8217;s economy. I pretended to have a really good plan on how we  could do better and every poor person would be fed &amp; housed for free.</p>
<p>I knew which group was responsible for getting us into this mess. It<br />
was the free market, banks &amp; corporations. I decided to start making<br />
citizens hate them and if they were envious of others who did well,<br />
the plan was clinched tight.</p>
<p>I called mine &#8220;A People&#8217;s Campaign&#8221; and that  sounded good to all  people.</p>
<p>I was the surprise candidate because I emerged from outside<br />
the traditional  path of politics &amp; was able to gain widespread popular<br />
support.</p>
<p>I knew that, if I merely offered the people &#8216;hope&#8217;,  together we could change  our country and the world.</p>
<p>So, I started to make my speeches sound like they were on<br />
behalf of the  downtrodden, poor, ignorant to include &#8220;persecuted<br />
minorities&#8221; . My true views were not widely known &amp; I<br />
needed to keep them  unknown, until after I became my nation&#8217;s leader.</p>
<p>I had to carefully guard reality, as anybody could have  easily found out what I  really believed, if they had simply read my writings and<br />
examined those people  I associated with.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad they didn&#8217;t. Then I became the most  powerful man in the world. And the world learned the truth.</p>
<p> *Who am I?*</p>
<p>  ADOLF HITLER</p>
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		<title>By: joed</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/is-obama-even-more-dangerous-than-bush/#comment-42959</link>
		<dc:creator>joed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 23:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>garrett, if i knew any more that what i suggested then you wouldn&#039;t have to ask me, i would be telling and doing it.  i guess this is why leaders can be sooo necessary.   perhaps a big big step would be for you guys to just admit you are in the FREE SPEACH ZONE at DissidentVoice and then see what happens from there.  as it is you may feel better after venting on DV or elsewhere but you guys are totally ineffectual.  like i said,  your words in the FREE SPEACH ZONE are worse than nothing,   
&quot;sacrifice and hardship are the keys to real change. words are worse than nothing because words make you feel that you are doing something to cause change. words are worse than nothing.&quot;
anyway, thank garrett for the opotunity to do some venting of my own.  keep up the good fight how ever you perceive it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>garrett, if i knew any more that what i suggested then you wouldn&#8217;t have to ask me, i would be telling and doing it.  i guess this is why leaders can be sooo necessary.   perhaps a big big step would be for you guys to just admit you are in the FREE SPEACH ZONE at DissidentVoice and then see what happens from there.  as it is you may feel better after venting on DV or elsewhere but you guys are totally ineffectual.  like i said,  your words in the FREE SPEACH ZONE are worse than nothing,<br />
&#8220;sacrifice and hardship are the keys to real change. words are worse than nothing because words make you feel that you are doing something to cause change. words are worse than nothing.&#8221;<br />
anyway, thank garrett for the opotunity to do some venting of my own.  keep up the good fight how ever you perceive it.</p>
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		<title>By: Garrett</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/is-obama-even-more-dangerous-than-bush/#comment-42958</link>
		<dc:creator>Garrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 23:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;i don’t know!&quot;

Then stop throwing around insults. Please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;i don’t know!&#8221;</p>
<p>Then stop throwing around insults. Please.</p>
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		<title>By: Garrett</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/is-obama-even-more-dangerous-than-bush/#comment-42957</link>
		<dc:creator>Garrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 23:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>joed,

You seem to be making an unfair assumption that those posting comments on this site aren&#039;t also working for peace, economic justice and sustainable communities. As if those things are mutually exclusive somehow.

It&#039;s easy to say &quot;hit the streets.&quot;  What I want to hear/read are specific suggestions, which have a specific purpose that is attainable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>joed,</p>
<p>You seem to be making an unfair assumption that those posting comments on this site aren&#8217;t also working for peace, economic justice and sustainable communities. As if those things are mutually exclusive somehow.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s easy to say &#8220;hit the streets.&#8221;  What I want to hear/read are specific suggestions, which have a specific purpose that is attainable.</p>
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		<title>By: joed</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/is-obama-even-more-dangerous-than-bush/#comment-42955</link>
		<dc:creator>joed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 23:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>garrett,  i don&#039;t know!  get a bunch of people and walk onto the freeway and shut down the traffic for a few weeks.  those ladies that keep geting arrested with blood on their hands have the right idea.  but basically garrett,  i am just an old fat guy that has did my turn on the streets and in jail for disobeying the pigs so i guess that stuff dont matter any more and the pols and bankers can keep running the country and you guys get buy as best you can.  if your not doing anyhting illegal then what difference does it make if the govt listens to your phone calls and tracks your movements and knows what you gave your outside squeeze for xmas.  so what if your vote hasnt counted for 8+ yeasrs.  so fuckin&#039; what if bush/cheney/obama can murder millions and retire to the good life.  as long as you guys can speak freely in thre FREE SPEACH ZONE (aka DissidentVoice) then you sure wont be blamed for allowing your country govt to murder, murder, murder.  it wasn&#039;t you blokes, hell you guys were yelling and screaming (in the FREE SPEACH ZONE)  to try and make the killing stop.  it wasn&#039;t you, hell,  there is nothing you can do, nothing.  except maybe keep on whining and crying and complaining that somebody has taken over your country and you can do anything about it.
and thats about as specific as an old fat disabled Dissident can get.  but you know i did fuck with the pigs and they slobbered all over themselves trying to figure out what was going on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>garrett,  i don&#8217;t know!  get a bunch of people and walk onto the freeway and shut down the traffic for a few weeks.  those ladies that keep geting arrested with blood on their hands have the right idea.  but basically garrett,  i am just an old fat guy that has did my turn on the streets and in jail for disobeying the pigs so i guess that stuff dont matter any more and the pols and bankers can keep running the country and you guys get buy as best you can.  if your not doing anyhting illegal then what difference does it make if the govt listens to your phone calls and tracks your movements and knows what you gave your outside squeeze for xmas.  so what if your vote hasnt counted for 8+ yeasrs.  so fuckin&#8217; what if bush/cheney/obama can murder millions and retire to the good life.  as long as you guys can speak freely in thre FREE SPEACH ZONE (aka DissidentVoice) then you sure wont be blamed for allowing your country govt to murder, murder, murder.  it wasn&#8217;t you blokes, hell you guys were yelling and screaming (in the FREE SPEACH ZONE)  to try and make the killing stop.  it wasn&#8217;t you, hell,  there is nothing you can do, nothing.  except maybe keep on whining and crying and complaining that somebody has taken over your country and you can do anything about it.<br />
and thats about as specific as an old fat disabled Dissident can get.  but you know i did fuck with the pigs and they slobbered all over themselves trying to figure out what was going on.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/is-obama-even-more-dangerous-than-bush/#comment-42948</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 22:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see Fox News is going for it with this tea party rallies around the Country.  First if Fox news is behind this the man behind the curtain comes to mind.  I guess the whole thing is no new tax&#039;s.  So twentieth Century and will do nothing to solve the problems we all face that&#039;s all face.  At these rallies will they be yelling USA USA drill baby drill climate change is a hoax don&#039;t listen to scientists or these so called thinkers listen to us we know best after all we are number one in the ratings.  Fox News and truth solders on the march and I just listened to Glenn Beck on Fox forget Socialism Glenn say&#039;s we are moving into Fascism now. From what I understand he has good ratings now, strange.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see Fox News is going for it with this tea party rallies around the Country.  First if Fox news is behind this the man behind the curtain comes to mind.  I guess the whole thing is no new tax&#8217;s.  So twentieth Century and will do nothing to solve the problems we all face that&#8217;s all face.  At these rallies will they be yelling USA USA drill baby drill climate change is a hoax don&#8217;t listen to scientists or these so called thinkers listen to us we know best after all we are number one in the ratings.  Fox News and truth solders on the march and I just listened to Glenn Beck on Fox forget Socialism Glenn say&#8217;s we are moving into Fascism now. From what I understand he has good ratings now, strange.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/is-obama-even-more-dangerous-than-bush/#comment-42944</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 21:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two million people in front of the Capital with candles singing &quot;Tomorrow, tomorrow it&#039;s only a day away&quot;.  Calm at peace.  Of course a few speech&#039;s before the song.  I will put one name James Hansen would give a good one.  Who else?  There&#039;s that darn question mark again</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two million people in front of the Capital with candles singing &#8220;Tomorrow, tomorrow it&#8217;s only a day away&#8221;.  Calm at peace.  Of course a few speech&#8217;s before the song.  I will put one name James Hansen would give a good one.  Who else?  There&#8217;s that darn question mark again</p>
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		<title>By: Garrett</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/is-obama-even-more-dangerous-than-bush/#comment-42942</link>
		<dc:creator>Garrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 21:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was hoping you&#039;d offer some specific suggestions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was hoping you&#8217;d offer some specific suggestions.</p>
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		<title>By: joed</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/is-obama-even-more-dangerous-than-bush/#comment-42941</link>
		<dc:creator>joed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 21:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>... and, what would you kids do if  the govt closed down the comment sections of internet.  what would you do with all that energy.  well, i know you wouldn&#039;t hit the streets.  you would probably take up ping-pong  to get rid of your blog energy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; and, what would you kids do if  the govt closed down the comment sections of internet.  what would you do with all that energy.  well, i know you wouldn&#8217;t hit the streets.  you would probably take up ping-pong  to get rid of your blog energy.</p>
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		<title>By: joed</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/is-obama-even-more-dangerous-than-bush/#comment-42940</link>
		<dc:creator>joed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 21:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>garrett specifically; civil-disobedience.
why don&#039;t nobody ever ask about FREE SPEACH ZONE and internet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>garrett specifically; civil-disobedience.<br />
why don&#8217;t nobody ever ask about FREE SPEACH ZONE and internet.</p>
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		<title>By: Garrett</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/is-obama-even-more-dangerous-than-bush/#comment-42939</link>
		<dc:creator>Garrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 20:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>joed,

Please be more specific. What exactly do you mean when you say &quot;hit the streets?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>joed,</p>
<p>Please be more specific. What exactly do you mean when you say &#8220;hit the streets?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: joed</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/is-obama-even-more-dangerous-than-bush/#comment-42938</link>
		<dc:creator>joed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 20:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well,  some one has to say it so here goes;  what goes on here at dv is nothing more than a FREE SPEACH ZONE that amerikan govt allows.
it is all just words isn&#039;t it.  sacrifice and hardship are the keys to real change.  words are worse than nothing because words make you feel that you are doing something to cause change.  words are worse than nothing.
hit the streets and hit&#039;em hard kids.  it&#039;s the only way now to get change, even in canada.  
bozh, i have followed your input here and elsewhere and i must say you are most enlightening.  most reasonable.  i do look forward to reading you more.
thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well,  some one has to say it so here goes;  what goes on here at dv is nothing more than a FREE SPEACH ZONE that amerikan govt allows.<br />
it is all just words isn&#8217;t it.  sacrifice and hardship are the keys to real change.  words are worse than nothing because words make you feel that you are doing something to cause change.  words are worse than nothing.<br />
hit the streets and hit&#8217;em hard kids.  it&#8217;s the only way now to get change, even in canada.<br />
bozh, i have followed your input here and elsewhere and i must say you are most enlightening.  most reasonable.  i do look forward to reading you more.<br />
thanks</p>
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		<title>By: bozh</title>
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		<dc:creator>bozh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 20:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>joed, i am not an american; i&#039;m a canadian. i support NDP.  we do marching and rallying against serial wars; unfortunately, the organizers have not been able to get the conservatives to protest.

people on the Right see us as leftitsts; thus promoting our politics but we do not talk about politics. at one time we had to oust an org. that kept complaining about us being silent about many issues.
eventually, we had to bar them from our meetings.

in the main we oppose solving int&#039;l disputes by warfare. we also support indigenous people and a few other matters. tnx  
 


 
our platform is very narrow one: we support indigenous people, health care. we are against  &#039;solving&#039;  int&#039;l disputes by wars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>joed, i am not an american; i&#8217;m a canadian. i support NDP.  we do marching and rallying against serial wars; unfortunately, the organizers have not been able to get the conservatives to protest.</p>
<p>people on the Right see us as leftitsts; thus promoting our politics but we do not talk about politics. at one time we had to oust an org. that kept complaining about us being silent about many issues.<br />
eventually, we had to bar them from our meetings.</p>
<p>in the main we oppose solving int&#8217;l disputes by warfare. we also support indigenous people and a few other matters. tnx  </p>
<p>our platform is very narrow one: we support indigenous people, health care. we are against  &#8217;solving&#8217;  int&#8217;l disputes by wars.</p>
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		<title>By: Vi</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/is-obama-even-more-dangerous-than-bush/#comment-42925</link>
		<dc:creator>Vi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 17:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the whole bankruptcy thing got ruled out when they allowed Lehman Brothers to go under and a Tsunami resulted....
so I am reluctantly hoping the current strategy is more effective and am expecting an &quot;FDIC like&quot; method of legally seizing financial institutions in the future...to end these &quot;bailouts&quot;, basically corporate welfare,  which have been going on for decades.

I personally blame the Bush administration for refusing to protect home owners who began going under a full three years ago...if that had been addressed it might have headed off the worst of this mess
but we were not his constituents....he was running an Oligarchy

I think Obama is trying to be the president of a Republic....
and as in any good divorce ....I expect no group will be 100% happy but I hope all will get what they most need...
 
I believe the perp walks are ahead...
just because Obama is keeping these gluttons afloat now doesn&#039;t mean they will be immune later...unfortunately much of the disaster came from laws that were repealed...
so we&#039;ll have to see if any of these moral criminals can actually be legally prosecuted..
if being a soulless bastard were a crime much of the human race would probably be behind bars, not just wealthy CEOs...

I guess I&#039;m more pragmatic...I&#039;ve changed systems (quite small systems) in my time...and I know it takes time...inertia is a B*&amp;%h....it&#039;s hard to get humans to change direction...

and Obama is no over lord...he&#039;s got to get congress, lefties and righties (all of which have fed upon juicy pork for 8 years), on board...Dems are fighting cost cutting in the military budget DEMS!!!!!....he&#039;s got  a big mess...
 
Dissenting voices, left and right, are essential to a free nation
but I hope the left doesn&#039;t make the same mistake as the right...
much of this country is still centrist...and they live here too...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the whole bankruptcy thing got ruled out when they allowed Lehman Brothers to go under and a Tsunami resulted&#8230;.<br />
so I am reluctantly hoping the current strategy is more effective and am expecting an &#8220;FDIC like&#8221; method of legally seizing financial institutions in the future&#8230;to end these &#8220;bailouts&#8221;, basically corporate welfare,  which have been going on for decades.</p>
<p>I personally blame the Bush administration for refusing to protect home owners who began going under a full three years ago&#8230;if that had been addressed it might have headed off the worst of this mess<br />
but we were not his constituents&#8230;.he was running an Oligarchy</p>
<p>I think Obama is trying to be the president of a Republic&#8230;.<br />
and as in any good divorce &#8230;.I expect no group will be 100% happy but I hope all will get what they most need&#8230;</p>
<p>I believe the perp walks are ahead&#8230;<br />
just because Obama is keeping these gluttons afloat now doesn&#8217;t mean they will be immune later&#8230;unfortunately much of the disaster came from laws that were repealed&#8230;<br />
so we&#8217;ll have to see if any of these moral criminals can actually be legally prosecuted..<br />
if being a soulless bastard were a crime much of the human race would probably be behind bars, not just wealthy CEOs&#8230;</p>
<p>I guess I&#8217;m more pragmatic&#8230;I&#8217;ve changed systems (quite small systems) in my time&#8230;and I know it takes time&#8230;inertia is a B*&amp;%h&#8230;.it&#8217;s hard to get humans to change direction&#8230;</p>
<p>and Obama is no over lord&#8230;he&#8217;s got to get congress, lefties and righties (all of which have fed upon juicy pork for 8 years), on board&#8230;Dems are fighting cost cutting in the military budget DEMS!!!!!&#8230;.he&#8217;s got  a big mess&#8230;</p>
<p>Dissenting voices, left and right, are essential to a free nation<br />
but I hope the left doesn&#8217;t make the same mistake as the right&#8230;<br />
much of this country is still centrist&#8230;and they live here too&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Max Shields</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/is-obama-even-more-dangerous-than-bush/#comment-42924</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Shields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 16:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>joed, with all due respect, who is &quot;you guys&quot;? That and the &quot;doll face&quot; (unless you&#039;re into that kind of shit) Obama talk is just so fuck&#039;n beside the point. 

But to more serious matters, I agree with bozh, it is not a &quot;left&quot; that needs solidarity, it is a movement with clear values and dynamic attractors that need to connect and build, and connect and  build.

I completely agree that solidarity is lacking, but &quot;you guys&quot; isn&#039;t going to make that happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>joed, with all due respect, who is &#8220;you guys&#8221;? That and the &#8220;doll face&#8221; (unless you&#8217;re into that kind of shit) Obama talk is just so fuck&#8217;n beside the point. </p>
<p>But to more serious matters, I agree with bozh, it is not a &#8220;left&#8221; that needs solidarity, it is a movement with clear values and dynamic attractors that need to connect and build, and connect and  build.</p>
<p>I completely agree that solidarity is lacking, but &#8220;you guys&#8221; isn&#8217;t going to make that happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Gregory Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gregory Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can not understand the stimulus bail out to help any thing more than the banks, big 3 vehicle makers, wall street and more bigger gov.
The change of tax on taxes etc... has slowly creeped up on every American, The US dollar doesnt go as far as it use to/buy what it use to.
If the stimulus bill is going to stimulate our economy wouldnt they divide it up and send it to every legal tax paying American that has been ripped off by over taxing in the first place.
In turn the the tax payer gets the money and pays off bank loans, vehicles, buys new vehicles, the money has to be spent buying American made products when possible, its to be spent in America, it cant be saved it all has to be spent with in short amount of time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can not understand the stimulus bail out to help any thing more than the banks, big 3 vehicle makers, wall street and more bigger gov.<br />
The change of tax on taxes etc&#8230; has slowly creeped up on every American, The US dollar doesnt go as far as it use to/buy what it use to.<br />
If the stimulus bill is going to stimulate our economy wouldnt they divide it up and send it to every legal tax paying American that has been ripped off by over taxing in the first place.<br />
In turn the the tax payer gets the money and pays off bank loans, vehicles, buys new vehicles, the money has to be spent buying American made products when possible, its to be spent in America, it cant be saved it all has to be spent with in short amount of time.</p>
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		<title>By: joed</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/is-obama-even-more-dangerous-than-bush/#comment-42919</link>
		<dc:creator>joed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bozh
in respect and admiration
what you guys need is some balls!  you need to hit the streets and hit&#039;em hard.  that is the only way real change will ever come about.  obama is one of the bad guys only he is good lookin&#039;.  he belongs in prison with bush/cheney etal.  the murder of palestinians,  pakis, iraqis, afghanis, etc. goes on and on.  wont you guys please make it stop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bozh<br />
in respect and admiration<br />
what you guys need is some balls!  you need to hit the streets and hit&#8217;em hard.  that is the only way real change will ever come about.  obama is one of the bad guys only he is good lookin&#8217;.  he belongs in prison with bush/cheney etal.  the murder of palestinians,  pakis, iraqis, afghanis, etc. goes on and on.  wont you guys please make it stop.</p>
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		<title>By: bozh</title>
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		<dc:creator>bozh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 13:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>deadbeat,
in respect,
we need more than the Left and its solidarity, we also need the Right and its solidarity for free higher education/healthcare, more freedom, and end to serial wars/killers.

let us be one people and not center, left, right, libertarians, greens, et al.
we probably need to get at least 90% usans to vigourously ask or demand the FOUR  pillars or staffs of life. tnx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>deadbeat,<br />
in respect,<br />
we need more than the Left and its solidarity, we also need the Right and its solidarity for free higher education/healthcare, more freedom, and end to serial wars/killers.</p>
<p>let us be one people and not center, left, right, libertarians, greens, et al.<br />
we probably need to get at least 90% usans to vigourously ask or demand the FOUR  pillars or staffs of life. tnx</p>
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		<title>By: Deadbeat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deadbeat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 04:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Max writes...

&lt;i&gt;That’s what we’re working with DB. Yes, there are some real progressives with ahead on their shoulder out there, but they’re a tiny minority as far as the so-called “working” class. It takes trauma to change this picture. We are embarking on just such a picture.&lt;/i&gt;

Max that was one of your best responses.  I appreciate the historical accounts.  I would add that McCarthyism, the betrayal by Liberals and racism.

It is true as you say that the current crisis is the &quot;trauma&quot; that may get  workers to reassess the adherence to the &quot;American Dream&quot;.  Even DatelineNBC got into the act recently with a segment featuring Elizabeth Warren on Debt and Debt Collectors.

Seeing Obama bailing out the banks is enormously disgusting (especially for a Deadbeat like myself) and leaving ordinary folks to wallow in a sea of debt (health, education, consumer, housing, etc) is in your face class war.  And despite the Daily Kos Klowns who only care about Obama&#039;s approval ratings, a recent survey by Rasmussen has a declining number of Americans &quot;embracing&quot; Capitalism.   In other words there are an increasing number of American citizens who are now willing to listen to alternatives to Capitalism.

This can be an important opportunity for the Left that I hope doesn&#039;t get squandered -- if only the Left can achieve solidarity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Max writes&#8230;</p>
<p><i>That’s what we’re working with DB. Yes, there are some real progressives with ahead on their shoulder out there, but they’re a tiny minority as far as the so-called “working” class. It takes trauma to change this picture. We are embarking on just such a picture.</i></p>
<p>Max that was one of your best responses.  I appreciate the historical accounts.  I would add that McCarthyism, the betrayal by Liberals and racism.</p>
<p>It is true as you say that the current crisis is the &#8220;trauma&#8221; that may get  workers to reassess the adherence to the &#8220;American Dream&#8221;.  Even DatelineNBC got into the act recently with a segment featuring Elizabeth Warren on Debt and Debt Collectors.</p>
<p>Seeing Obama bailing out the banks is enormously disgusting (especially for a Deadbeat like myself) and leaving ordinary folks to wallow in a sea of debt (health, education, consumer, housing, etc) is in your face class war.  And despite the Daily Kos Klowns who only care about Obama&#8217;s approval ratings, a recent survey by Rasmussen has a declining number of Americans &#8220;embracing&#8221; Capitalism.   In other words there are an increasing number of American citizens who are now willing to listen to alternatives to Capitalism.</p>
<p>This can be an important opportunity for the Left that I hope doesn&#8217;t get squandered &#8212; if only the Left can achieve solidarity.</p>
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