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		<title>By: Marcus</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/housing-bubble-smackdown-huge-shadow-inventory-portends-bigger-crash-ahead/#comment-49551</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 06:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@bozhidar 

Preach to the wiglers , the gene pool, and nature. Or even the gods of fate if you will.
As for the actions of humans, that has been proven empirically. 
Just as the class failed, so will such a society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@bozhidar </p>
<p>Preach to the wiglers , the gene pool, and nature. Or even the gods of fate if you will.<br />
As for the actions of humans, that has been proven empirically.<br />
Just as the class failed, so will such a society.</p>
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		<title>By: bozhidar balkas vancouver</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/housing-bubble-smackdown-huge-shadow-inventory-portends-bigger-crash-ahead/#comment-49538</link>
		<dc:creator>bozhidar balkas vancouver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 22:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>marcus,
we swim in a common genetic pool.
no one can know which wigler wld be the first to enter an ovum. Of the hundreds or even thousands of wiglers just one gets in.
and that one cld produce a genius or a person with very low intelligence. We get no choice.
 
your example rests on the ancient notions that people who are poor, less energetic,  or of low intelligence, etc.,  are that way because  they want to be that way.
it is largely the genetic pool that determines how tall, handsome, smart, energetic, jovial, sad,  mad a person will be.
and it takes  mns of people to produce a genius. It is such people we owe all progress.
and two &#039;morons&#039; cld give birth to a genius and two geniuses cld give birth to a &#039;moron&#039;. 
nobody wants to give birth to a child which wld be deaf, short, fat, blind, &#039;stupid&#039;, fearful, tired, etc. 
but the nature says otherwise. To nature, we are all OK, but not  not to you nor clero-politival &#039;elite&#039;. Well, nature made you. However, nature never makes the same mistake twice. Isn&#039;t that good news? tnx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>marcus,<br />
we swim in a common genetic pool.<br />
no one can know which wigler wld be the first to enter an ovum. Of the hundreds or even thousands of wiglers just one gets in.<br />
and that one cld produce a genius or a person with very low intelligence. We get no choice.</p>
<p>your example rests on the ancient notions that people who are poor, less energetic,  or of low intelligence, etc.,  are that way because  they want to be that way.<br />
it is largely the genetic pool that determines how tall, handsome, smart, energetic, jovial, sad,  mad a person will be.<br />
and it takes  mns of people to produce a genius. It is such people we owe all progress.<br />
and two &#8216;morons&#8217; cld give birth to a genius and two geniuses cld give birth to a &#8216;moron&#8217;.<br />
nobody wants to give birth to a child which wld be deaf, short, fat, blind, &#8217;stupid&#8217;, fearful, tired, etc.<br />
but the nature says otherwise. To nature, we are all OK, but not  not to you nor clero-politival &#8216;elite&#8217;. Well, nature made you. However, nature never makes the same mistake twice. Isn&#8217;t that good news? tnx</p>
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		<title>By: Marcus</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/housing-bubble-smackdown-huge-shadow-inventory-portends-bigger-crash-ahead/#comment-49528</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An economics professor at a local college made a statement that he had never failed a single student before, but had once failed an entire class.

That class had insisted that  socialism worked and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer.

The professor then said, &quot;OK,
we will have an experiment in this class on such.

All grades would be averaged and everyone would receive the same grade so no one would receive a poor grade and no one would receive a great grade.

After the first test, the grades were averaged and everyone got a B.
The students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little were happy. 

As the second test rolled around, the students who studied little had studied even less and the ones who studied hard decided they wanted a free ride too so they studied little. 
The second test average was a D!
No one was happy.

When the 3rd test rolled around, the average was an F.

The scores never increased as bickering,
blame and name-calling all resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for the benefit of anyone else. 

All failed, to their great surprise, and the professor told them that socialism would also ultimately fail because when the reward is great, the effort to succeed is great but when government takes the reward away, no one will try or want to work to succeed.

If housing and employment are a human right, simply sit back, relax, and wait to be handed both.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An economics professor at a local college made a statement that he had never failed a single student before, but had once failed an entire class.</p>
<p>That class had insisted that  socialism worked and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer.</p>
<p>The professor then said, &#8220;OK,<br />
we will have an experiment in this class on such.</p>
<p>All grades would be averaged and everyone would receive the same grade so no one would receive a poor grade and no one would receive a great grade.</p>
<p>After the first test, the grades were averaged and everyone got a B.<br />
The students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little were happy. </p>
<p>As the second test rolled around, the students who studied little had studied even less and the ones who studied hard decided they wanted a free ride too so they studied little.<br />
The second test average was a D!<br />
No one was happy.</p>
<p>When the 3rd test rolled around, the average was an F.</p>
<p>The scores never increased as bickering,<br />
blame and name-calling all resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for the benefit of anyone else. </p>
<p>All failed, to their great surprise, and the professor told them that socialism would also ultimately fail because when the reward is great, the effort to succeed is great but when government takes the reward away, no one will try or want to work to succeed.</p>
<p>If housing and employment are a human right, simply sit back, relax, and wait to be handed both.</p>
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		<title>By: yo</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/housing-bubble-smackdown-huge-shadow-inventory-portends-bigger-crash-ahead/#comment-44244</link>
		<dc:creator>yo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 17:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>trevor,

if you don&#039;t believe what we tell you about detroit, just do a little research on what housing did in the ussr.

if that doesn&#039;t convince you that public housing rots all the way to the core, then you are one of those folks that only sees what you want to see. in other words, a liberal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>trevor,</p>
<p>if you don&#8217;t believe what we tell you about detroit, just do a little research on what housing did in the ussr.</p>
<p>if that doesn&#8217;t convince you that public housing rots all the way to the core, then you are one of those folks that only sees what you want to see. in other words, a liberal.</p>
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		<title>By: Trevor</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/housing-bubble-smackdown-huge-shadow-inventory-portends-bigger-crash-ahead/#comment-44111</link>
		<dc:creator>Trevor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 09:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Demonizing the homeless as being unable to care for a home is a shallow analysis. One must analyze the economic system that impoverishes so many people here as well as all over the world (80% of the world&#039;s people toil for less than $10 per day as they produce the goods upon which the global capitalist system rests). 

It isn&#039;t that &quot;damned homeless people would destroy homes and neighborhoods, by God.&quot; Rather it is that capitalism cannot provide for the working class people in a sufficient manner. The result is a glut of empty, overpriced homes along with increasing homelessness combined with an economic crisis that the capitalist elite are seeking to resolve by handing over trillions of dollars to criminal bankers and by increasing the already continuing assault on the wages and benefits of working class people. Those attacks on labor seem only to exacerbate the problem.  But that isn&#039;t quite accurate. It exacerbates the problems facing the underclass, but more severe exploitation of the working class is exactly the solution that the capitalists seek. The housing industry will take it on the chin to be sure; but it is being sacrificed in order to save the capitalist system for the lucky few.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Demonizing the homeless as being unable to care for a home is a shallow analysis. One must analyze the economic system that impoverishes so many people here as well as all over the world (80% of the world&#8217;s people toil for less than $10 per day as they produce the goods upon which the global capitalist system rests). </p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t that &#8220;damned homeless people would destroy homes and neighborhoods, by God.&#8221; Rather it is that capitalism cannot provide for the working class people in a sufficient manner. The result is a glut of empty, overpriced homes along with increasing homelessness combined with an economic crisis that the capitalist elite are seeking to resolve by handing over trillions of dollars to criminal bankers and by increasing the already continuing assault on the wages and benefits of working class people. Those attacks on labor seem only to exacerbate the problem.  But that isn&#8217;t quite accurate. It exacerbates the problems facing the underclass, but more severe exploitation of the working class is exactly the solution that the capitalists seek. The housing industry will take it on the chin to be sure; but it is being sacrificed in order to save the capitalist system for the lucky few.</p>
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		<title>By: lichen</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/housing-bubble-smackdown-huge-shadow-inventory-portends-bigger-crash-ahead/#comment-44089</link>
		<dc:creator>lichen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 01:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, the homes are better taken care of when there are occupants; and since the US is a signatory to the universal declaration of human rights, they are obligated to provide housing to everyone, and if the politicians fail to, they should be tried at the hague.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, the homes are better taken care of when there are occupants; and since the US is a signatory to the universal declaration of human rights, they are obligated to provide housing to everyone, and if the politicians fail to, they should be tried at the hague.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/housing-bubble-smackdown-huge-shadow-inventory-portends-bigger-crash-ahead/#comment-44084</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 00:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look around Detroit, homes foreclosed from the seventies and the abomination of the early eighties still abound. 

The stench of the rot has taken taken hold. Kansas, Cincinnati, Little Rock to name a few.

Those few are TOO many.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look around Detroit, homes foreclosed from the seventies and the abomination of the early eighties still abound. </p>
<p>The stench of the rot has taken taken hold. Kansas, Cincinnati, Little Rock to name a few.</p>
<p>Those few are TOO many.</p>
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		<title>By: lichen</title>
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		<dc:creator>lichen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 18:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Housing is a human right; so is employment, and if someone lacks both, you give them both.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Housing is a human right; so is employment, and if someone lacks both, you give them both.</p>
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		<title>By: David A. Smith</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/housing-bubble-smackdown-huge-shadow-inventory-portends-bigger-crash-ahead/#comment-44051</link>
		<dc:creator>David A. Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 14:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For Michael - Unfortunately,  higher inflation and a weaker dollar does not mean that salaries necessarily rise.  You are correct that IF salaries rise, debt as a portion of income goes down. But there is no mechanism to force companies to raise pay scales to match inflation. The unions used to try to do this, but their pretty toothless now, and we all know that the minimum wage is meaningless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For Michael &#8211; Unfortunately,  higher inflation and a weaker dollar does not mean that salaries necessarily rise.  You are correct that IF salaries rise, debt as a portion of income goes down. But there is no mechanism to force companies to raise pay scales to match inflation. The unions used to try to do this, but their pretty toothless now, and we all know that the minimum wage is meaningless.</p>
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		<title>By: obstruksion</title>
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		<dc:creator>obstruksion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 14:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah, cuz homeless people have the income to maintain a house...

look at detroit to see what would happen if the houses were turned over to people with no incomes. the banks would never let it happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, cuz homeless people have the income to maintain a house&#8230;</p>
<p>look at detroit to see what would happen if the houses were turned over to people with no incomes. the banks would never let it happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/housing-bubble-smackdown-huge-shadow-inventory-portends-bigger-crash-ahead/#comment-44044</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 13:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still without a new way of thinking academic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still without a new way of thinking academic.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Kenny</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/housing-bubble-smackdown-huge-shadow-inventory-portends-bigger-crash-ahead/#comment-44042</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Kenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 12:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A small aside on this. Inflation would actually be to the benefit of ordinary Americans. Their salaries would rise but their debts wouldn&#039;t.  That would get both the country and individuals out of debt quicker.  The same goes for the dollar.  The collapse of the dollar would make imports dearer and thereby make outsourcing uneconomic. To produce goods that people with dollars to spend can afford to buy, manufacturers would have to pay people in dollars to make them, i.e. they would have to re-start production in the US. Thus, what the financial elite is presenting as a &quot;disaster&quot; would be a disaster only for them!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A small aside on this. Inflation would actually be to the benefit of ordinary Americans. Their salaries would rise but their debts wouldn&#8217;t.  That would get both the country and individuals out of debt quicker.  The same goes for the dollar.  The collapse of the dollar would make imports dearer and thereby make outsourcing uneconomic. To produce goods that people with dollars to spend can afford to buy, manufacturers would have to pay people in dollars to make them, i.e. they would have to re-start production in the US. Thus, what the financial elite is presenting as a &#8220;disaster&#8221; would be a disaster only for them!</p>
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		<title>By: lichen</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/housing-bubble-smackdown-huge-shadow-inventory-portends-bigger-crash-ahead/#comment-44012</link>
		<dc:creator>lichen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 03:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those 600,000 homes that the banks are hiding away should be put into public domain and used to house every homeless person in this country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those 600,000 homes that the banks are hiding away should be put into public domain and used to house every homeless person in this country.</p>
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