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	<title>Comments on: HBO&#8217;s Whistleblower Talks About Hog Farm</title>
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		<title>By: kalidas</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/hbos-whistleblower-talks-about-hog-farm/#comment-43170</link>
		<dc:creator>kalidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 15:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Though you may not believe in karma, karma surely believes in you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Though you may not believe in karma, karma surely believes in you.</p>
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		<title>By: veganvet</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/hbos-whistleblower-talks-about-hog-farm/#comment-43031</link>
		<dc:creator>veganvet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Krl provides evidence of the effects of all those stress hormones present in the animal as it was slaughtered that comprised his last meal...pent up aggression, frustration and neuronal misfiring. Or maybe he&#039;s just suffering from Cruetzfeld-Jacob disease from eating meat infected with prions. If so, it is his death that will be slow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Krl provides evidence of the effects of all those stress hormones present in the animal as it was slaughtered that comprised his last meal&#8230;pent up aggression, frustration and neuronal misfiring. Or maybe he&#8217;s just suffering from Cruetzfeld-Jacob disease from eating meat infected with prions. If so, it is his death that will be slow.</p>
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		<title>By: Krl</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/hbos-whistleblower-talks-about-hog-farm/#comment-42868</link>
		<dc:creator>Krl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 17:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It was a Rodney King moment for the animal movement. &quot; - the usage of that right there, that comparison is precisely why I spit on the face of any animal rights person that crosses my path...racist friggin misanthropes...you filth are doing to iraqis etc what happens to the pig and then have the gaul to babble on about how you&#039;re happy to be vegan...die slow...all of you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It was a Rodney King moment for the animal movement. &#8221; &#8211; the usage of that right there, that comparison is precisely why I spit on the face of any animal rights person that crosses my path&#8230;racist friggin misanthropes&#8230;you filth are doing to iraqis etc what happens to the pig and then have the gaul to babble on about how you&#8217;re happy to be vegan&#8230;die slow&#8230;all of you</p>
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		<title>By: StephanieB</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/hbos-whistleblower-talks-about-hog-farm/#comment-42829</link>
		<dc:creator>StephanieB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 01:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh PLEASE tell me there is something we can do about this.   I&#039;m so sick over this, I cannot believe that this is allowed to continue, especially after HBO showed this.   I hope that guy enjoys his karmic payback.

I am so grateful I&#039;m vegan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh PLEASE tell me there is something we can do about this.   I&#8217;m so sick over this, I cannot believe that this is allowed to continue, especially after HBO showed this.   I hope that guy enjoys his karmic payback.</p>
<p>I am so grateful I&#8217;m vegan.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/hbos-whistleblower-talks-about-hog-farm/#comment-42778</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 10:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While we were mostly unaware, the slow accumulation of greenhouse gases sealed our fate. Our inability to put life before the dead hand of greed and profit, and address this calamity, guarantees our fate.

   with its modus operandi of endless, undifferentiated growth. That&#039;s the part many have a problem with.  There is still time not much but a little.  Now the good guy&#039;s who want to try and know full well it will not be easy do we see them on TV?  Once in a great while in between commercials.  It&#039;s like take one news story.  A bridge ice bridge has melted and this seems to be moving much to fast and we are told will have dire consequences for the human race anyway let&#039;s move on to more important things like a word from our sponsor.  Unless that can change we are lost.  Total focus and of course to do that means it is real well it is. A new way of thinking has to happen and a few want to keep the old way of thinking now don&#039;t they and that will guarantee our fate.  In just a few months here in the States in the Senate this little problem will come up and so far it looks like greed and profit has the votes.  Ok but just remember at that point the shit is going to hit the fan and then the problem itself climate breakdown this summer and next will show itself.  Then what happens listen to your leaders and watch your parking meters and call call now.  Two million to start calm at peace one voice and think of this as kind of a war. In the twenty first century the few who run the show and want to keep the old way of thinking are very good at using the illusion of knowledge but is just that an illusion.  Remember reality is still with us it hasn&#039;t gone anywhere.  Just watch the Senate when they get back from vacation and tell me if you see something called an illusion of knowledge and stupidity the game where nobody wins and remember the man behind the curtain with Alligator shoes and check book in hand that will guarantee our fate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While we were mostly unaware, the slow accumulation of greenhouse gases sealed our fate. Our inability to put life before the dead hand of greed and profit, and address this calamity, guarantees our fate.</p>
<p>   with its modus operandi of endless, undifferentiated growth. That&#8217;s the part many have a problem with.  There is still time not much but a little.  Now the good guy&#8217;s who want to try and know full well it will not be easy do we see them on TV?  Once in a great while in between commercials.  It&#8217;s like take one news story.  A bridge ice bridge has melted and this seems to be moving much to fast and we are told will have dire consequences for the human race anyway let&#8217;s move on to more important things like a word from our sponsor.  Unless that can change we are lost.  Total focus and of course to do that means it is real well it is. A new way of thinking has to happen and a few want to keep the old way of thinking now don&#8217;t they and that will guarantee our fate.  In just a few months here in the States in the Senate this little problem will come up and so far it looks like greed and profit has the votes.  Ok but just remember at that point the shit is going to hit the fan and then the problem itself climate breakdown this summer and next will show itself.  Then what happens listen to your leaders and watch your parking meters and call call now.  Two million to start calm at peace one voice and think of this as kind of a war. In the twenty first century the few who run the show and want to keep the old way of thinking are very good at using the illusion of knowledge but is just that an illusion.  Remember reality is still with us it hasn&#8217;t gone anywhere.  Just watch the Senate when they get back from vacation and tell me if you see something called an illusion of knowledge and stupidity the game where nobody wins and remember the man behind the curtain with Alligator shoes and check book in hand that will guarantee our fate.</p>
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		<title>By: Mulga Mumblebrain</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/hbos-whistleblower-talks-about-hog-farm/#comment-42777</link>
		<dc:creator>Mulga Mumblebrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 09:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;We kill because we die&#039;. Human murderous and destructiveness are boundless. The &#039;eternal Treblinka&#039; of our cruelty to animals has never slackened, and to that we may add our peculiar gift for mass murder and genocide of our fellows. Indeed as the Israelis and the US amply demonstrate, even the most perverted cruelty can be impiously dressed in the raiments of &#039;moral purity&#039;. Madeleine Albright states that the unnecessary and cruel deaths of 500,000 Iraqi children were a price that was &#039;worth it&#039;, and she remains not just able to walk amongst us unhindered, but is fawned upon with all due obsequiousness. Humanity contains within its rich variety every type from the saint to the serial killer. Unfortunately the killers have slowly worked their way to the top, mostly by eradicating those of more &#039;humane&#039; (there&#039;s a rich irony!) disposition. Mankind&#039;s innate destructiveness, or should I say the insatiable lust for death and carnage of the psychopaths amongst us, was always bound to lead to our self-destruction, as soon as we perfected the techno-scientific means to that end. The debacle seems to have arrived not through military means, the feared nuclear holocaust, although it may play a part in delivering the coup de grace, but by the inexorable playing out of the ecocidal imperative of neoplastic market capitalism, with its modus operandi of endless, undifferentiated growth. While we were mostly unaware, the slow accumulation of greenhouse gases sealed our fate. Our inability to put life before the dead hand of greed and profit, and address this calamity, guarantees our fate. We are taking most higher life with us, but the reconstruction of the rich diversity of life on the planet is almost certainly inevitable, and all life will breathe a sigh of relief that we are gone. What a shame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;We kill because we die&#8217;. Human murderous and destructiveness are boundless. The &#8216;eternal Treblinka&#8217; of our cruelty to animals has never slackened, and to that we may add our peculiar gift for mass murder and genocide of our fellows. Indeed as the Israelis and the US amply demonstrate, even the most perverted cruelty can be impiously dressed in the raiments of &#8216;moral purity&#8217;. Madeleine Albright states that the unnecessary and cruel deaths of 500,000 Iraqi children were a price that was &#8216;worth it&#8217;, and she remains not just able to walk amongst us unhindered, but is fawned upon with all due obsequiousness. Humanity contains within its rich variety every type from the saint to the serial killer. Unfortunately the killers have slowly worked their way to the top, mostly by eradicating those of more &#8216;humane&#8217; (there&#8217;s a rich irony!) disposition. Mankind&#8217;s innate destructiveness, or should I say the insatiable lust for death and carnage of the psychopaths amongst us, was always bound to lead to our self-destruction, as soon as we perfected the techno-scientific means to that end. The debacle seems to have arrived not through military means, the feared nuclear holocaust, although it may play a part in delivering the coup de grace, but by the inexorable playing out of the ecocidal imperative of neoplastic market capitalism, with its modus operandi of endless, undifferentiated growth. While we were mostly unaware, the slow accumulation of greenhouse gases sealed our fate. Our inability to put life before the dead hand of greed and profit, and address this calamity, guarantees our fate. We are taking most higher life with us, but the reconstruction of the rich diversity of life on the planet is almost certainly inevitable, and all life will breathe a sigh of relief that we are gone. What a shame.</p>
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		<title>By: JustDee</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/hbos-whistleblower-talks-about-hog-farm/#comment-42773</link>
		<dc:creator>JustDee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 07:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there something wrong with me that I am weeping for these poor hogs and that I&#039;d like to go and truss up that man and the jackass who thought it would be &quot;humorous&quot; to hug the dying pig.  My gawd! What&#039;s the matter with people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there something wrong with me that I am weeping for these poor hogs and that I&#8217;d like to go and truss up that man and the jackass who thought it would be &#8220;humorous&#8221; to hug the dying pig.  My gawd! What&#8217;s the matter with people.</p>
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		<title>By: kalidas</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/hbos-whistleblower-talks-about-hog-farm/#comment-42761</link>
		<dc:creator>kalidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 02:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;To my mind, the life of a lamb is no less precious than that of a human being.&quot;
        Mahatma Gandhi

Upton Sinclair. 1878-1968. American muckraker. From The Jungle: &quot;At the same instant the ear was assailed by a most terrifying shriek; the visitors started in alarm, the women turned pale and shrank back. The shriek was followed by another, louder and yet more agonizing--for once started upon that journey, the hog never came back; at the top of the wheel he was shunted off upon a trolley, and went sailing down the room. And meantime another was swung up, and then another, and another, until there was a double line of them, each dangling by a foot and kicking in frenzy--and squealing. The uproar was appalling, perilous to the eardrums; one feared there was too much sound for the room to hold--that the walls must give way or the ceiling crack. There were high squeals and low squeals, grunts, and wails of agony; there would come a momentary lull, and then a fresh outburst, louder than ever, surging up to a deafening climax. It was too much for some of the visitors--the men would look at each other, laughing nervously, and the women would stand with hands clenched and the blood rushing to their faces, and the tears starting in their eyes.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;To my mind, the life of a lamb is no less precious than that of a human being.&#8221;<br />
        Mahatma Gandhi</p>
<p>Upton Sinclair. 1878-1968. American muckraker. From The Jungle: &#8220;At the same instant the ear was assailed by a most terrifying shriek; the visitors started in alarm, the women turned pale and shrank back. The shriek was followed by another, louder and yet more agonizing&#8211;for once started upon that journey, the hog never came back; at the top of the wheel he was shunted off upon a trolley, and went sailing down the room. And meantime another was swung up, and then another, and another, until there was a double line of them, each dangling by a foot and kicking in frenzy&#8211;and squealing. The uproar was appalling, perilous to the eardrums; one feared there was too much sound for the room to hold&#8211;that the walls must give way or the ceiling crack. There were high squeals and low squeals, grunts, and wails of agony; there would come a momentary lull, and then a fresh outburst, louder than ever, surging up to a deafening climax. It was too much for some of the visitors&#8211;the men would look at each other, laughing nervously, and the women would stand with hands clenched and the blood rushing to their faces, and the tears starting in their eyes.&#8221;</p>
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