Comments on: Guilty of Being Poor

By: Debtors’ prisons are making a comeback… « Check Your Premises

Debtors’ prisons are making a comeback… « Check Your Premises — Sun, 28 Jun 2009 00:02:45 +0000

[...] you thought the Victorian Era was in the past, an old Victorian standby comes back to haunt us: debtors’ prisons. “Edwina Nowlin, a poor Michigan resident, was ordered to reimburse a juvenile detention center [...]

By: Loren

Loren — Sat, 02 May 2009 08:50:38 +0000

maybe if she had been a responsible person and saved away money for just such an occasion this would not have happened.

instead, her negligence led to this situation. the state has a right to not burden taxpayers with the costs associated with criminals. criminals should be forced to work to earn their keep while in prison.

By: Don Hawkins

Don Hawkins — Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:28:08 +0000

oppressed people in many way’s I am glad you put it that way Bozh food for thought.

By: Don Hawkins

Don Hawkins — Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:05:21 +0000

Or Could it be that some sit on there ass and push the easy button and when that easy button doesn’t work like it should wait for a hand out a very large hand out. Oh and pushing that easy button keeps people people who have two jobs to just keep up in slavery.

By: bozhidar or bozh

bozhidar or bozh — Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:02:59 +0000

E-Liz,
you cld be wrong! What you have said, had been said by just about every feudal lord, priest, ‘educator’, politician.
Their plaint had been s’mthing like this: If only they wld stop complaining and worked harder, they wldn’d be so poor. They are lazy, uneducated, etc.

however, sciense had not yet discovered the disease called “laziness”.
the ruling classes have invented the disease and now propagated by its chosen ‘educators’.
Why are so many amers not educated? Because it takes lotsof money to obtain higher education!
I conclude, amers are OK. They are what nature made them. It did its best for them and other oppressed people.
But plutos had to destroy what nature gave us by teaching many youngsters false knowledge so that they can lord it over us! tnx

By: E-Liz

E-Liz — Wed, 29 Apr 2009 11:40:02 +0000

Or Could it be that people are poor because they sit on their asses while waiting for a handout instead of working to better themselves ?

By: lichen

lichen — Wed, 29 Apr 2009 02:28:43 +0000

There is no valid justification for inequality, for some people to live well while others are prosecuted because the artificial, anti-life system has made them poor.

By: CivilServant

CivilServant — Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:21:38 +0000

This is great! ALL people should pay for their prison time and system processing fees. ALL. Parents shoudl pay for their minor children as well. My only hope is this movement spreads like wildfire, hopefully along with some common sense. Tax payers should not pay the burden for this nation’s self-enforced poor (which 80+% of the ‘poor’ are…).

Now, if we could just come to our senses and enact the death penalty a LOT more and more often (granted, along side some system reforms as well as better and more accessible crime lab technology to ensure a minimum of mistakes).

By: Daskinnybear

Daskinnybear — Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:14:03 +0000

another case of guilty of being poor, even though thse peole have brought it upon themselves they are still being prosacuted for basically not paying a bill.http://news10now.com/content/top_stories/138304/husband-wife-violate-probation-in-theft-case/Default.aspx

By: CrashCodes

CrashCodes — Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:32:46 +0000

Amen O’Guillory.

I got a traffic ticket. I lost the ticket somehow. I called the local courthouse. They told me I was right to call them, and I did the right thing. They asked me when I got the ticket, my dl number, etc. They said they didn’t have any record of my citation. They said I’d have to go to the downtown courthouse within 24hrs to get the information I’d need to enter a plea, find my court date, or pay the fine. I take a half day vacation to drive downtown, pay for parking, and wait in line. The clerk there tells me that they don’t have any record of my citation either! I did everything I was asked to do regarding this. I’m thinking hey, the officer never turned it in. I’m off the hook.

A year or two later I get a notice that there is a warrant for my arrest! So, I have to go back to the downtown courthouse and pay some fine to clear the warrant in addition to the fine. I get no option for drivers ed or differed adjudication. F’d Up.

By: Kim

Kim — Tue, 28 Apr 2009 14:24:54 +0000

Just a little bit more to go and then you’ve achieved your third world status !

By: Dave in Mack Town

Dave in Mack Town — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 23:50:06 +0000

I’ve worked with homeless veterans for years. We started having “Stand Downs” up here (in Humboldt County) to help them deal with things ranging from PTSD to debts.
Many are what you would call poor, but only in material things. When you get to know people who don’t have money and are swimming upstream in a system, you find out that they are just like you when it comes to the bottom line.
This society judges the poor harshly. More judges need to walk in a poor persons shoes to really understand the challenges that are out there. Make no mistake…it’s a hard world when you don’t have money.
Good article. I’ve provided an introduction and link to it on my web site davesblogcentral.com
Peace

By: Jeff

Jeff — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 21:11:52 +0000

Actually quakergirl, I am poor. Do I hate being poor, damn right I do. Am I trying to be proactive, damn right I am. I will become prosperous while trying my best to be “moral”. What is that “moral” virtue consist of you ask?! Doing my best not to leave others behind should they also have a desire to no longer be poor. Is this attainable? Absolutely not in this day and age of greed and apathy for the human condition. Go ahead quakergirl, please ignore me. I then will have to make the choice of to ignoring you. Peace!

By: Dee

Dee — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 20:42:47 +0000

One of the biggest myths in America is that we are are first world country. A LIE. We are a THIRD WORLD COUNTRY in many MANY ways. We are now, and we always have been.

By: bryan brady

bryan brady — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 20:32:17 +0000

I wonder where the next wilderness will be that we can escape the wrath of an unconstitutional United States. I guess we will have to flee south. Maybe an illegal alien would like to trade places? I doubt it. Soon this country will be bunch of lawyers and judges with no one to do their work for them and theyt will have to really work. I think that they will soon be feeling the Wrath of God when there’s no Commons to defend them.

By: Harry Canary

Harry Canary — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 20:10:29 +0000

Hey Annie M.,
“Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses?”
Your Uncle Ebenezer would be soooo proud of you.

By: EthanAllen

EthanAllen — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:58:48 +0000

This a major reason people left europe for the US wilderness. Seems like legal slavery to me. I would leave these States and embrace Liberty.

By: Roberta B. Rodgers

Roberta B. Rodgers — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:06:32 +0000

This is also happening in Florida. My ex son in law owes child support. I know that he needs to pay it but to threaten him with five years in PRISON if he fails to make another payment is not constitutional.

By: Jerry

Jerry — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 15:24:20 +0000

HP Lovecraft is the only one who has it right. This country sucks and all you asshole dogooders need a good foot put up your ass.

By: quakergirl

quakergirl — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 15:08:28 +0000

The comment from Jeff sounds like he has nothing to do but hate the poor. Ignore him. You had a great article. Even the Germans arent that bad about collecting money. They ll take 5 dollars a month for a debt.