socialism means more caring for one another; more egalitarian society; people being more interdependent.
hey, there is no such thing as a country but there are people in bounded area.
it may be better to describe what is going on in a country; oops, among a people we calll americans than to call it a name. As calling names dosen’t explain anything.
and then compare them with a more caring, egalitarian people. We can even eschew the word socialism.
This wld stop all arguments. People argue on and on about isms because they don’t realize that they are defending their definitions of an ism.
and even individual definitions may change. tnx
and an ism is defined/understood differently by each individivual.

But the fact is this: both socialism and capitalism are workable economic principles, and there is no need for one to exterminate the other; they can exist side by side in perfect harmony. Proof? Look at Israel.

That rightly hated pariah nation has nothing whatsoever to teach the world, but one feature of its economic system is worth looking at: the fact that dozens of kibbutzim (which are purely socialist) exist side by side, and sometimes surrounded by, capitalist towns and cities; proving beyond doubt that the two systems can exist together. The key to the success of the model is the fact that the people who live in those kibbutzim, towns or cities CHOOSE which system suits them.

There is no need to have an economic system that eliminates socialism or capitalism. Both are possible. More important by far is a having political system that provides real economic security and real social justice for all citizens. The neocons have poisoned the word ‘capitalism’ exactly as they have poisoned the word ‘democracy’; and exactly as Stalin poisoned the word ‘socialism’. It cannot be acceptable to force any particular system onto the people – they simply need to be allowed the information, freedom and security to find their own way.

As for saving the planet…

Nothing can usefully be discussed until human beings, all human beings, accept that their numbers are reduced. Once again, this should not be imposed, merely taught. It’s quite easy to show the proof.

Just imagine a planet with a total human population of say a hundred million. Once that image is in one’s mind it’s pretty difficult to imagine any serious ecological problem at all.

Getting down from our current 6.7 billion to a hundred million should not be imposed, but it is something that people should be taught to think about and take personal responsibility for. Our numbers must be reduced.

i do not think that the word “capitalism” is adequate/accurate term to explain what is happening to biota and people; i think fascism is more accurate.
only in fascist social structures can a sybaritic class of life thrive and lord it over us. I don’t think that cld happen in a socialist structrue of governance and society.
now, i am not talking about utter equality or that it is possible to achieve. tnx

We, the Heads of State and Government of Bolivia, Cuba, Dominica, Honduras, Nicaragua and Venezuela, member countries of ALBA, consider that the Draft Declaration of the 5th Summit of the Americas is insufficient and unacceptable for the following reasons . . . (full article)

Absolutely.

I’m sure Mexico is not much better or worse than any other country would be with an elephant in their front room, and a very nasty, rampant elephant at that. I only cited Mexico because it is supposedly at the heart of the latest distraction ‘pandemic’.

Read this and this is long term and what is long term 97 months. Still time with total focus and hard choices and a new way of thinking. To me the biggest part of a new way of thinking is working together for all of humanity. Easy to say but we don’t know until we try. Oh the stock market today the futures are looking good according to CNBC amazing.

I wouldn’t focus primarily on Mexico. There are reasons why white Europe got away with varying amounts of populism where Latin America (or Greece) couldn’t— but it certainly had nothing to do with benevolence of a gifted, ordained class of rulers.

Racism and identity are a big part but not the only part…I would just suggest that the history of social struggle be viewed without forgetting the elephant in the room

I am very happy that someone is discussing the bunk fear and distraction that is occurring and applaud you for bringing it up…I think some unrelated things said in your piece sidetracked your message and I’m no fan of ad hominem; so I hope you keep contributing.

Cheers

Thanks. Mr Chavizta is quite right – I haven’t read much about poverty in Latin America – but it would seem that Mr Chavizta hasn’t read much about Mexican history.

All things are relative. Relatively speaking, from the little I hear about it, Swedish government seems to care about ordinary people a whole lot more than most – not that that’s very difficult; so no, I wouldn’t claim that Sweden totally escapes the Gelhorn Rule – just that it’s probaly a little less culpable than others we could think of.

I enjoyed the article and share some sentiments

I don’t agree with Tennessee’s way of addressing you and you handled your response calmly…but Sweden’s government gets off the hook from the Gelhorn Rule? hegemony is real and others should have a chance of being Sweden before we decide for them that they will still suck after we leave them alone

“Never believe governments, not any of them, not a word they say: keep an untrusting eye on all they do.”

I freely admit I have no first hand experience of the Mexican government, but I would be very surprised if they were an exception to the Gelhorn Rule; especially when you think about who their nearest neighbour is.

So don’t compare the Mexican government which is not an evil government like USA, UK, Nato, Israel etc. The real cause of all world problems !!

And leave Mexico alone. What we have to do is to attack the head of the snake: US, Israel, Zionism, Europe, NATO (The real evil doers against the people of this world!!

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WAKE UP, AND READ SOME BOOKS ABOUT POVERTY IN LATIN AMERICA !!

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CNN is the only network so far reporting this. It looks like not only have we been lied to but the people doing the lying have lied to themselves for so long this flu is now a lie, amazing. Obama’s press conference should be interesting to say the least. A pandemic is imminent and about a hundred years ago it happened and get ready people this is not an illusion and I am sure some will try to make it seem that way. We could get lucky and rice is still in the stores. Make that weeks, months.

I like the notion of the Emperor … O’Bama, in this case. It seems fitting that an empire should have an emperor … and we are an empire. An emperor also fits in well with the imperial presidency. That seems fitting as well. I can almost keep from puking up my last meal when I read Emperor O’Bama, so I am somewhat comforted that I didn’t have to read Emperor Bush … just the mere thought of him as a measly ‘president’ was bad enough. Though to be honest I am still waiting to see what the f-word the difference is, really, between the two? Maybe, for consistency sake we ought to call O’Bama, H? It seems only fair … doncha think? (Oh, I forgot … thinking isn’t allowed. Too bad really, as it was kinda fun.)

RG the LG