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	<title>Comments on: Can Senator Webb Lead America Out of the Drug War Quagmire?</title>
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		<title>By: kalidas</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/can-senator-webb-lead-america-out-of-the-drug-war-quagmire/#comment-43304</link>
		<dc:creator>kalidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 21:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Record poppy crops under the watchful eye(s) of NATO make the opposite likely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Record poppy crops under the watchful eye(s) of NATO make the opposite likely.</p>
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		<title>By: rg the lg</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/can-senator-webb-lead-america-out-of-the-drug-war-quagmire/#comment-43177</link>
		<dc:creator>rg the lg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 17:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, the rhetoric of the past thirty years ... the assumption that we had gone beyond a segregated society?  Such blatant nonsense, the Uncle Tom&#039;s (O&#039;Bama especially) talk about equality ... but the racial component factually reported above  should put the lie to the bs ...

USans have never believed in equity ... equality is part of the myth ... post-racial is so much gibberish!  

Why do we continue to act surprised?  There should be no surprise ... we have precisely the kind of society we want.  We will have no other ... despite of all of the hand wringing and posturing

RG the LG</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, the rhetoric of the past thirty years &#8230; the assumption that we had gone beyond a segregated society?  Such blatant nonsense, the Uncle Tom&#8217;s (O&#8217;Bama especially) talk about equality &#8230; but the racial component factually reported above  should put the lie to the bs &#8230;</p>
<p>USans have never believed in equity &#8230; equality is part of the myth &#8230; post-racial is so much gibberish!  </p>
<p>Why do we continue to act surprised?  There should be no surprise &#8230; we have precisely the kind of society we want.  We will have no other &#8230; despite of all of the hand wringing and posturing</p>
<p>RG the LG</p>
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		<title>By: bozh</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/can-senator-webb-lead-america-out-of-the-drug-war-quagmire/#comment-43166</link>
		<dc:creator>bozh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 14:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>is senator webb be yet another &#039;savior&#039;?  we&#039;ve never had one yet and probably never have one ever.
we&#039;ve had jesus as &#039;savior&#039;  and look where we are now; wors eyet to come.

i suggest we ask, What can US governance and individual gov&#039;ts do to deal properly or in a better way with the usage of all drugs, even the legal ones?

we cld also ask what US governance can do to eliminate sugar from food? shld manufacturers of ready-to-eat food use salt and other chemicals at al?
isn&#039;t food the best medicine?
a good question to ask wld be, How can we better inspect incoming vehicles and people?  another one wld be to ask how/where/when are drugs made and sent out on a deadly mission?

these questions are, as far as i know, not  asked. Is it because of its probably widespread use by doctors, soldiers, leagl staff, pols, police, cia, fbi, et al?
if that is even partly true, poor webb is on an mission impossible. my sincere condolences to him. tnx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is senator webb be yet another &#8217;savior&#8217;?  we&#8217;ve never had one yet and probably never have one ever.<br />
we&#8217;ve had jesus as &#8217;savior&#8217;  and look where we are now; wors eyet to come.</p>
<p>i suggest we ask, What can US governance and individual gov&#8217;ts do to deal properly or in a better way with the usage of all drugs, even the legal ones?</p>
<p>we cld also ask what US governance can do to eliminate sugar from food? shld manufacturers of ready-to-eat food use salt and other chemicals at al?<br />
isn&#8217;t food the best medicine?<br />
a good question to ask wld be, How can we better inspect incoming vehicles and people?  another one wld be to ask how/where/when are drugs made and sent out on a deadly mission?</p>
<p>these questions are, as far as i know, not  asked. Is it because of its probably widespread use by doctors, soldiers, leagl staff, pols, police, cia, fbi, et al?<br />
if that is even partly true, poor webb is on an mission impossible. my sincere condolences to him. tnx</p>
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		<title>By: lichen</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/can-senator-webb-lead-america-out-of-the-drug-war-quagmire/#comment-43136</link>
		<dc:creator>lichen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 01:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad this article brings up the point of sexual victimization and violence in prison that, because the victims are by far male, is ignored and swept aside.  The prisons-for-profit need to be closed, and the &#039;criminal justice&#039; system needs to be put towards humane, safe rehabilitation and a paralell system needs to prevent crime by establishing equal societies where everyone&#039;s rights, including that of children, are respected and no one is left poor, or desperate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad this article brings up the point of sexual victimization and violence in prison that, because the victims are by far male, is ignored and swept aside.  The prisons-for-profit need to be closed, and the &#8216;criminal justice&#8217; system needs to be put towards humane, safe rehabilitation and a paralell system needs to prevent crime by establishing equal societies where everyone&#8217;s rights, including that of children, are respected and no one is left poor, or desperate.</p>
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		<title>By: bozh</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/can-senator-webb-lead-america-out-of-the-drug-war-quagmire/#comment-43101</link>
		<dc:creator>bozh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 14:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>as i have written to MSM decades ago, US and canadian governances [or sytems, if one wills] allow home drug usage but not street usage.
unfortunately, editors wld routinely throw such letters in the basket; being selves  basket cases. tnx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as i have written to MSM decades ago, US and canadian governances [or sytems, if one wills] allow home drug usage but not street usage.<br />
unfortunately, editors wld routinely throw such letters in the basket; being selves  basket cases. tnx</p>
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		<title>By: Max Shields</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/can-senator-webb-lead-america-out-of-the-drug-war-quagmire/#comment-43052</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Shields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 00:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beverly, I agree. I imagine a situation whereby the plutocracy sat down (perhaps it was a confluence of meetings, and hall way chats) which of course includes the DLC, and the Repub machine, and they concluded that Bush had the policy right but was fucking up the marketing.

And then, almost in Hollywood fashion, the Pepsodent kid walked into the room (like the scene from Trading Places with Eddie Murphy) and voila!!! They had the perfect foil. He&#039;s tall, he&#039;s could bull shit Bill Clinton under the table, and he was smart in that kind of self absorbed sort of way that allowed him to think he was in control while taking orders from the power structure. He doesn&#039;t really take orders. The great thing about Obama is he&#039;s made to appease and please. He wants to learn the rules of the power structure and play the game; which is why he can never be great, just a competent plutocrat.

A billion dollar campaign and it&#039;s done. And here we are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beverly, I agree. I imagine a situation whereby the plutocracy sat down (perhaps it was a confluence of meetings, and hall way chats) which of course includes the DLC, and the Repub machine, and they concluded that Bush had the policy right but was fucking up the marketing.</p>
<p>And then, almost in Hollywood fashion, the Pepsodent kid walked into the room (like the scene from Trading Places with Eddie Murphy) and voila!!! They had the perfect foil. He&#8217;s tall, he&#8217;s could bull shit Bill Clinton under the table, and he was smart in that kind of self absorbed sort of way that allowed him to think he was in control while taking orders from the power structure. He doesn&#8217;t really take orders. The great thing about Obama is he&#8217;s made to appease and please. He wants to learn the rules of the power structure and play the game; which is why he can never be great, just a competent plutocrat.</p>
<p>A billion dollar campaign and it&#8217;s done. And here we are.</p>
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		<title>By: beverly</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/can-senator-webb-lead-america-out-of-the-drug-war-quagmire/#comment-43050</link>
		<dc:creator>beverly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 23:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds good, Senator Webb, but I&#039;ll wait and see if any substantive reforms come from your crusade.  One can fill a bookshelf with common sense proclamations and feel good rhetoric of politicians but only a few notebooks chronicling substantive reforms and actions that emanate from &quot;talking the talk.&quot;

As for Webb having a President . . . who will take . . . drug policy seriously, that&#039;s debatable.  Obama can overwhelm a room with the stench of bullshit and bamboozlement.    He&#039;s a master at saying all the right things and doing the wrong ones.   The corporate interests who vetted and arranged Obama&#039;s election have much to gain from the prison industrial complex (building for-profit prisons, providing goods/services to prison complex, ridding the job market of competition) and don&#039;t give a damn about the social costs such as fact that drugs and related ills are as big a problem today as 30 years ago.  We&#039;ve seen time and again Obama&#039;s capitulation and subservience to power players at the expense of the common good.   There is no indication that this behavior will &quot;change.&quot;

If any reform bill get signed, read the fine print.   In March, Obama ordered federal agencies to suspend Bush signing statements.  A few days later,  Obama attached a signing statement to a spending bill claiming he had constitutional authority to ignore several of the bills oversight provisions.  Business as usual - getting over on the ignorant masses.

Don&#039;t be too impressed with Jim Webb either.  Did he turn VA blue or was it simply 8 years of a beyond incompetent administration that even old South Republicans could no longer stomach, coupled with a Republican ticket of McCain the clueless and Palin the dumbass?  Further, many of Webb&#039;s positions are more in line with the right wing -lite blue dog Dems.  He&#039;s got to show me big time some serious commitment to a dismantling of the war on drugs quagmire - a commitment that includes bucking the Messiah in Chief if need be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds good, Senator Webb, but I&#8217;ll wait and see if any substantive reforms come from your crusade.  One can fill a bookshelf with common sense proclamations and feel good rhetoric of politicians but only a few notebooks chronicling substantive reforms and actions that emanate from &#8220;talking the talk.&#8221;</p>
<p>As for Webb having a President . . . who will take . . . drug policy seriously, that&#8217;s debatable.  Obama can overwhelm a room with the stench of bullshit and bamboozlement.    He&#8217;s a master at saying all the right things and doing the wrong ones.   The corporate interests who vetted and arranged Obama&#8217;s election have much to gain from the prison industrial complex (building for-profit prisons, providing goods/services to prison complex, ridding the job market of competition) and don&#8217;t give a damn about the social costs such as fact that drugs and related ills are as big a problem today as 30 years ago.  We&#8217;ve seen time and again Obama&#8217;s capitulation and subservience to power players at the expense of the common good.   There is no indication that this behavior will &#8220;change.&#8221;</p>
<p>If any reform bill get signed, read the fine print.   In March, Obama ordered federal agencies to suspend Bush signing statements.  A few days later,  Obama attached a signing statement to a spending bill claiming he had constitutional authority to ignore several of the bills oversight provisions.  Business as usual &#8211; getting over on the ignorant masses.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t be too impressed with Jim Webb either.  Did he turn VA blue or was it simply 8 years of a beyond incompetent administration that even old South Republicans could no longer stomach, coupled with a Republican ticket of McCain the clueless and Palin the dumbass?  Further, many of Webb&#8217;s positions are more in line with the right wing -lite blue dog Dems.  He&#8217;s got to show me big time some serious commitment to a dismantling of the war on drugs quagmire &#8211; a commitment that includes bucking the Messiah in Chief if need be.</p>
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		<title>By: John S. Hatch</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/can-senator-webb-lead-america-out-of-the-drug-war-quagmire/#comment-43047</link>
		<dc:creator>John S. Hatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 23:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course the author is eminently correct, but we&#039;re talking about a nation that allows prisons for profit, which has a retributive Calvinist outlook based on a Christianity that is a mile wide but a micron deep, that largely has no problem with capital punishment, nor with imprisoning people for virtually nothing while &#039;looking forward&#039; instead of dealing with invaders, torturers, and murderers.

Not much hope there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course the author is eminently correct, but we&#8217;re talking about a nation that allows prisons for profit, which has a retributive Calvinist outlook based on a Christianity that is a mile wide but a micron deep, that largely has no problem with capital punishment, nor with imprisoning people for virtually nothing while &#8216;looking forward&#8217; instead of dealing with invaders, torturers, and murderers.</p>
<p>Not much hope there.</p>
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